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Post by Torquayterrier on Mar 5, 2023 0:56:56 GMT 1
Hasn't Slapps been on with his copy n paste entitlement post yet? Maybe he's away for the weekend.
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Post by Sio on Mar 5, 2023 1:01:37 GMT 1
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Post by Melc on Mar 5, 2023 1:14:33 GMT 1
Today's result, combined with others picking up points has knocked us all for 6, glad of the game on Tues, they have to turn up and win that or things will look even bleaker😐😐 Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table! We have won 8 games out of 34, still to play 8 out of the top 11 and playing some of the worst so called football I can remember. Admire your slight optimism Morley, but realistically we are done! |
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Post by willo on Mar 5, 2023 2:31:47 GMT 1
Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table! We have won 8 games out of 34, still to play 8 out of the top 11 and playing some of the worst so called football I can remember. Admire your slight optimism Morley, but realistically we are done! After that performance today, we’re as good as down. Can’t wait to see how the marketing dept try convince folk to buy season cards next season! |
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Post by jqhtfc on Mar 5, 2023 2:44:32 GMT 1
Sad that today, it’s not often I walk out but as soon as they went through for the 3rd me and my mates where up on our way. A totally pathetic and inept performance which sums up this football club currently a total disgrace from top to bottom.
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Post by ponteterrier on Mar 5, 2023 2:44:55 GMT 1
We are done. This side would struggle in league 1. Last season the squad needed investment, instead due to the over achievement carlos managed, Dean, or the board thought we'd manage with cheap project players.
We need a good clean out, top to bottom. Start again
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 5, 2023 5:21:45 GMT 1
Loads of Police about after the game the was an Ambulance with its lights on by the Coventry coach and loads of Police and stewards there it looked like something was going off behind the South stand during the second half Possibly related to this. downatthemac.proboards.com/post/3139838/thread |
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 5, 2023 7:10:47 GMT 1
Up early to play golf. The first thought when I woke up was how dreadful that was yesterday.
Where is Knockaert ?
High - I’m sorry he isn’t a championship player. Too weak. Got over powered for three of the goals.
Ward did nothing.
Helik looked like a different player to the one that played against Birmingham. Awful.
8 conceded.
0 scored.
Perhaps there is a reason Warnock retired. Football has moved on and it’s left him behind.
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Mar 5, 2023 7:57:19 GMT 1
Doesn't Hoyle only own 25% of the club?
So I'm not sure this season is all his fault - unless I've missed something.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Mar 5, 2023 8:23:11 GMT 1
We have won 8 games out of 34, still to play 8 out of the top 11 and playing some of the worst so called football I can remember. Admire your slight optimism Morley, but realistically we are done! After that performance today, we’re as good as down. Can’t wait to see how the marketing dept try convince folk to buy season cards next season! Yes there will be the usual stupid comments directed at the club when season ticket sales are released, by the same moronic few, especially on Twitter. To be honest willo, folk don’t need convincing. They either want to watch us or they don’t. The club putting out some witty, well designed advert isn’t going to change anyone’s mind about going to football. Of course we will drop maybe 30% to 40% in sold tickets but things like that don’t really bother me. Especially as I’m wanting to change stands so will have better options 😀 |
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Post by conman on Mar 5, 2023 8:46:29 GMT 1
Doesn't Hoyle only own 25% of the club? So I'm not sure this season is all his fault - unless I've missed something. By choosing to sell the other 75% to the clueless plotless Phil.. We couldn't make the game yesterday, so passed our tickets on to a friend and his family , haven't heard from him since.. |
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Post by terriers321 on Mar 5, 2023 8:50:52 GMT 1
Doesn't Hoyle only own 25% of the club? So I'm not sure this season is all his fault - unless I've missed something. He was running the club and made the decisions that has took a club from finishing third to looking like the worst side in the league. The whole Phil deal was engineered by himself to suit his bank balance. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the premier league if people still want to ramble on about that. Thats long gone and we are where we are currently down to him and he has to be held accountable. |
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Mar 5, 2023 9:33:15 GMT 1
Doesn't Hoyle only own 25% of the club? So I'm not sure this season is all his fault - unless I've missed something. He was running the club and made the decisions that has took a club from finishing third to looking like the worst side in the league. The whole Phil deal was engineered by himself to suit his bank balance. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the premier league if people still want to ramble on about that. Thats long gone and we are where we are currently down to him and he has to be held accountable. I'm not saying he doesn't have a part to play - but surely putting all the blame on him is just an easy way to blame and rant at someone. Hoyle didn't want to step back in - he sold the club to someone whose company then went bankrupt, and very quickly too - that's not his fault. While many didn't like PH at first - they loved it when we were in the play-off final, so to now blame Hoyle for selling the club to PH is revisionist. He only owns 25% - hard to invest in something when you are a part owner - the blame should be on PH for not selling his 75% quickly. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the Prem - because he did take us to the Prem. I just think some are taking the easy road by blaming Hoyle - I think there is far more to it than that. |
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Post by jackandjillupthehill on Mar 5, 2023 9:39:30 GMT 1
hoyle to blame,he came back last season when he seen the pound signs of the premier league,that was the only reason,we didnt go up so he realised he had to sell any assets to fund this season,hes putting fuck all into the club its the clubs money and then bought league one and league two players that are dreadfull,so yes all pretty much hoyles fault
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Post by rockwall on Mar 5, 2023 9:49:53 GMT 1
hoyle to blame,he came back last season when he seen the pound signs of the premier league,that was the only reason,we didnt go up so he realised he had to sell any assets to fund this season,hes putting fuck all into the club its the clubs money and then bought league one and league two players that are dreadfull,so yes all pretty much hoyles fault Fuck me... remind me to take a deep breath before reading your posts. |
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Post by belizian on Mar 5, 2023 10:01:18 GMT 1
He was running the club and made the decisions that has took a club from finishing third to looking like the worst side in the league. The whole Phil deal was engineered by himself to suit his bank balance. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the premier league if people still want to ramble on about that. Thats long gone and we are where we are currently down to him and he has to be held accountable. I'm not saying he doesn't have a part to play - but surely putting all the blame on him is just an easy way to blame and rant at someone. Hoyle didn't want to step back in - he sold the club to someone whose company then went bankrupt, and very quickly too - that's not his fault. While many didn't like PH at first - they loved it when we were in the play-off final, so to now blame Hoyle for selling the club to PH is revisionist. He only owns 25% - hard to invest in something when you are a part owner - the blame should be on PH for not selling his 75% quickly. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the Prem - because he did take us to the Prem. I just think some are taking the easy road by blaming Hoyle - I think there is far more to it than that. Probably todays most realistic post. |
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Post by ringdisco on Mar 5, 2023 10:14:12 GMT 1
Our football club is one big embarrassment - and its 100% down you two. Scot High - Couldn't get a game at Rotherham. Don't get why this one gets bandied around a lot. Rotherham are quite a bit better than Town. |
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Post by terrier17 on Mar 5, 2023 10:30:29 GMT 1
Our football club is one big embarrassment - and its 100% down you two. Scot High - Couldn't get a game at Rotherham. Don't get why this one gets bandied around a lot. Rotherham are quite a bit better than Town. To be fair, he struggled to make Shrewsbury’s starting 11 in league one… |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 5, 2023 10:39:37 GMT 1
We have won 8 games out of 34, still to play 8 out of the top 11 and playing some of the worst so called football I can remember. Admire your slight optimism Morley, but realistically we are done! After that performance today, we’re as good as down. Can’t wait to see how the marketing dept try convince folk to buy season cards next season! They won't be convincing me, that's certain |
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Post by haveitback on Mar 5, 2023 10:45:15 GMT 1
He was running the club and made the decisions that has took a club from finishing third to looking like the worst side in the league. The whole Phil deal was engineered by himself to suit his bank balance. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the premier league if people still want to ramble on about that. Thats long gone and we are where we are currently down to him and he has to be held accountable. I'm not saying he doesn't have a part to play - but surely putting all the blame on him is just an easy way to blame and rant at someone. Hoyle didn't want to step back in - he sold the club to someone whose company then went bankrupt, and very quickly too - that's not his fault. While many didn't like PH at first - they loved it when we were in the play-off final, so to now blame Hoyle for selling the club to PH is revisionist. He only owns 25% - hard to invest in something when you are a part owner - the blame should be on PH for not selling his 75% quickly. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the Prem - because he did take us to the Prem. I just think some are taking the easy road by blaming Hoyle - I think there is far more to it than that. Alot more to it than that, Hoyle never wanted to relinquish full control of the club and that's why he kept 25%, The blame for our current state goes back years even when we were doing well, Bad business decisions on transfers and wasting money galore, This purely comes down to DH no one else, spending small selling big ran out for us and he should have seen that and spent better, He should have backed people like Stuart Webber and CC when it came to it, Again DH decision making. I appreciate everything DH has done a can also handle the poor decisions because no one is perfect, But to dismiss peoples knowledge and expertise in roles you employ because if your arrogant approach is unforgivable, To then not try to rectify the problems and stall on decisions allowing the club to freefall is even worse. DH could have had a statue even after premier League relegation, The self destruction of his tenure is absolutely mind blowing. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 5, 2023 11:00:22 GMT 1
We are all, to a degree understandably, going over old ground. The one thing that is certain is that we, the fans, aren't to blame for where the club finds itself.
I am more interested now into how this plays out. We need the change of ownership very soon. It will be May before we know it and we have to plan for what the club will look like next season.
As it stands we are floundering around trying, likely in vain, to maintain our Championship status. Those in charge and those aspiring to be in charge need to focus on what next season looks like. There is a much bigger picture here and I worry it is being ignored.
The past few years has been littered with poor choices. I just hope those who can influence recognise that and collaborate to try and achieve the best possible outcome for the club. After all that is surely what being a custodian is all about? Doing the best for that you have the privilege of being responsible for.
All the other debate won't make a jot of difference now.
I always hope for the best. I'm also realistic enough to worry that people, personal outcomes and other human frailties are preventing the club from a fresh start. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by 4 pts on Mar 5, 2023 11:28:20 GMT 1
He was running the club and made the decisions that has took a club from finishing third to looking like the worst side in the league. The whole Phil deal was engineered by himself to suit his bank balance. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the premier league if people still want to ramble on about that. Thats long gone and we are where we are currently down to him and he has to be held accountable. I'm not saying he doesn't have a part to play - but surely putting all the blame on him is just an easy way to blame and rant at someone. Hoyle didn't want to step back in - he sold the club to someone whose company then went bankrupt, and very quickly too - that's not his fault. While many didn't like PH at first - they loved it when we were in the play-off final, so to now blame Hoyle for selling the club to PH is revisionist. He only owns 25% - hard to invest in something when you are a part owner - the blame should be on PH for not selling his 75% quickly. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the Prem - because he did take us to the Prem. I just think some are taking the easy road by blaming Hoyle - I think there is far more to it than that. Irrespective of the stake he holds, Hoyle has made is very clear that he is in charge. With that in mind and if you were in his shoes would you have appointed Danny Schofield ? Would you have appointed Fotheringham ? |
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 5, 2023 11:39:02 GMT 1
He was running the club and made the decisions that has took a club from finishing third to looking like the worst side in the league. The whole Phil deal was engineered by himself to suit his bank balance. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the premier league if people still want to ramble on about that. Thats long gone and we are where we are currently down to him and he has to be held accountable. I'm not saying he doesn't have a part to play - but surely putting all the blame on him is just an easy way to blame and rant at someone. Hoyle didn't want to step back in - he sold the club to someone whose company then went bankrupt, and very quickly too - that's not his fault. While many didn't like PH at first - they loved it when we were in the play-off final, so to now blame Hoyle for selling the club to PH is revisionist. He only owns 25% - hard to invest in something when you are a part owner - the blame should be on PH for not selling his 75% quickly. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the Prem - because he did take us to the Prem. I just think some are taking the easy road by blaming Hoyle - I think there is far more to it than that. 100% this blame for this lies with Hoyle. Carlos, Bromby, Schofield , Fotheringham were all his doing. |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Mar 5, 2023 11:42:37 GMT 1
I have a guaranteed price for my two season tickets next season. But I'm reluctant to put money in. If all it does is disappear when the club goes into administration. New owners may not honour that. Don’t know if they would be obliged to do so |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 5, 2023 11:59:28 GMT 1
I have a guaranteed price for my two season tickets next season. But I'm reluctant to put money in. If all it does is disappear when the club goes into administration. New owners may not honour that. Don’t know if they would be obliged to do so Don't think they would have a choice. It was more or less a binding contract when we recieved letters about it. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. If they didn't, I would be wanting all money paid from the Covid season back. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 5, 2023 12:27:35 GMT 1
New owners may not honour that. Don’t know if they would be obliged to do so Don't think they would have a choice. It was more or less a binding contract when we recieved letters about it. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. If they didn't, I would be wanting all money paid from the Covid season back. If not honoured and we sink into the abyss of the lower leagues - it will be a hard sell for them. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 5, 2023 12:48:13 GMT 1
Nearly 17k season cards sold at the start of the season. The fans did their part but our 'custodian' once again failed miserably. You'd think after over a decade of running a club he'd learn afew things but he just keeps repeating the same mistakes over and over. He took over a club in league 1 with very little debt but very little squad value, he'll leave us with a club in league 1 with £30-£40m of debt but very little squad value. He can spout his custodian, premier league legacy, not sleepwalking bullshit elsewhere. The guy has completely fucked this club and pissed away hundreds of millions in the process. www.buildastatueindeanshonour.com |
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Post by willo on Mar 5, 2023 13:01:20 GMT 1
After that performance today, we’re as good as down. Can’t wait to see how the marketing dept try convince folk to buy season cards next season! They won't be convincing me, that's certain Sadly, that’s the way I’m thinking. Can’t justify close to £600 for 2 League 1 season cards where I’m likely to attend maybe half the games max simply to reserve what are admittedly very good seats. I have very little interest in watching League 1 football tbh. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 5, 2023 15:00:57 GMT 1
It’s not the division it’s how much the club wants to compete that bothers me. Happy to pay for a ST but I expect to be competitive that is the issue. Also don’t want to buy a ST and then the club goes bust and the ticket is worthless.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Mar 5, 2023 15:18:02 GMT 1
I'm not saying he doesn't have a part to play - but surely putting all the blame on him is just an easy way to blame and rant at someone. Hoyle didn't want to step back in - he sold the club to someone whose company then went bankrupt, and very quickly too - that's not his fault. While many didn't like PH at first - they loved it when we were in the play-off final, so to now blame Hoyle for selling the club to PH is revisionist. He only owns 25% - hard to invest in something when you are a part owner - the blame should be on PH for not selling his 75% quickly. Hoyle can take the credit for taking us to the Prem - because he did take us to the Prem. I just think some are taking the easy road by blaming Hoyle - I think there is far more to it than that. Probably todays most realistic post. Ok ask you’re why retain 25% if you want to step away he never intended to give up his plaything you fools or the Canalside like a c£&t doesn’t he charge the club for using it ? |
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