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Post by 4 pts on Mar 22, 2023 14:32:24 GMT 1
Where does this Dutch deal leave Bromby? If they've got a database of players and related stats then there doesn't seem much need for him? Apart from him bumping into Carlos a few years back, I don't think there ever has. A gofundme page opened and soccer school incoming as soon his they pry his Canalside pass from his extremely firm grip  |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 22, 2023 14:35:29 GMT 1
question for both htafc35 & MaynardBlue, given that most of what you provide is clearly speculative and from either side of the spectrum do you think you are helping the situation or helping any new/current owner by providing half a tale and going up against each other? htafc35 the more you share the more you will wind people up who have no intention of changing their opinion on hoyle unless he throws his money down the drain and moves on. Also a lot of what you provide is clearly speculative or fed from a dean hoyle source. maynard it seems you are clearly siding with an alternate bid to the one chose with seemingly a following of disciples backing you up. I don't think either of you are helping the atmosphere around the club in a relegation battle, not that I think there is malice in what you do I just think more thought is required unless you have all the information to provide Partly agree but when the club are sharing bugger all, some info, no matter how biased, is welcome. I just wish folk could see that that is all it is, opinions based on bits of information and in no way the whole picture. |
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Post by DuffMan on Mar 22, 2023 14:40:23 GMT 1
question for both htafc35 & MaynardBlue, given that most of what you provide is clearly speculative and from either side of the spectrum do you think you are helping the situation or helping any new/current owner by providing half a tale and going up against each other? htafc35 the more you share the more you will wind people up who have no intention of changing their opinion on hoyle unless he throws his money down the drain and moves on. Also a lot of what you provide is clearly speculative or fed from a dean hoyle source. maynard it seems you are clearly siding with an alternate bid to the one chose with seemingly a following of disciples backing you up. I don't think either of you are helping the atmosphere around the club in a relegation battle, not that I think there is malice in what you do I just think more thought is required unless you have all the information to provide Partly agree but when the club are sharing bugger all, some info, no matter how biased, is welcome. I just wish folk could see that that is all it is, opinions based on bits of information and in no way the whole picture. I agree but also understand when it’s takeover stuff it’s always hush hush. The club will announce when something is signed I’d imagine. If everyone was rational I don’t think either would need to worry in sharing information but as it stands if Maynard says something even if it is an opinion (of which he is allowed of course) it is taken as good as a club statement, just read Twitter on any day when Maynard shares something, it spreads like wildfire as other people’s IKO source 😂 quite sad really. This isn’t a dig at either of htafc35 or Maynard btw just hope the club share the details properly when they can so everyone can make their own judgment and not rely on forum posts |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 22, 2023 14:45:08 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t...
However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) -
Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break !
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Post by mosher on Mar 22, 2023 14:47:20 GMT 1
Partly agree but when the club are sharing bugger all, some info, no matter how biased, is welcome. I just wish folk could see that that is all it is, opinions based on bits of information and in no way the whole picture. I agree but also understand when it’s takeover stuff it’s always hush hush. The club will announce when something is signed I’d imagine. If everyone was rational I don’t think either would need to worry in sharing information but as it stands if Maynard says something even if it is an opinion (of which he is allowed of course) it is taken as good as a club statement, just read Twitter on any day when Maynard shares something, it spreads like wildfire as other people’s IKO source 😂 quite sad really. This isn’t a dig at either of htafc35 or Maynard btw just hope the club share the details properly when they can so everyone can make their own judgment and not rely on forum posts That's just the problem though, the silence from the club is deafening. I'm sure they could share SOME news without derailing a takeover. As it is we have no choice but to listen to @htafc35 and Maynardblue for even the tiniest snippet. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 22, 2023 14:47:41 GMT 1
I'll rephrase. He's created the current mess we find ourselves in. And sorry, but no. This club SHOULD be attractive to people with silly money wanting to dabble in English football in the modern era of the game. We have fantastic potential and tick lots of boxes. I'd argue that we're lucky that prospective buyers can see through the shambles and see us for what we can be. does any real fan want this "This club SHOULD be attractive to people with silly money wanting to dabble in English football in the modern era of the game." someone to come in throw a load of money at his / her new toy and then get bored and leave the club in a massive mess, I think this is the route that the fanbase who joined about the same time as David Wagner did would want, but long term fans who have been through all this before I am sure would want sunstainabilty and a long term plan. Barry Rubery springs to mind and we all know how that panned out. |
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Post by DuffMan on Mar 22, 2023 14:52:50 GMT 1
I agree but also understand when it’s takeover stuff it’s always hush hush. The club will announce when something is signed I’d imagine. If everyone was rational I don’t think either would need to worry in sharing information but as it stands if Maynard says something even if it is an opinion (of which he is allowed of course) it is taken as good as a club statement, just read Twitter on any day when Maynard shares something, it spreads like wildfire as other people’s IKO source 😂 quite sad really. This isn’t a dig at either of htafc35 or Maynard btw just hope the club share the details properly when they can so everyone can make their own judgment and not rely on forum posts That's just the problem though, the silence from the club is deafening. I'm sure they could share SOME news without derailing a takeover. As it is we have no choice but to listen to @htafc35 and Maynardblue for even the tiniest snippet. I think we’d be surprised how little they can share certainly about prospective owners. For example if either the Dutch or Americans don’t get it they won’t want other clubs knowing they were interested here first as it could affect negotiations for another club, the media always leak names but it rarely gets officially stated by a club before anything is signed. |
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Post by Melc on Mar 22, 2023 14:59:33 GMT 1
For some reason after 64 years of watching this club, I just don’t give a shit anymore. Come on Melc... of course you do. You would't be on here otherwise. You are right Kenny I do, but just fed up to the back teeth of all this now. It will be whatever it will be, but I just feel we may have missed a opportunity to take this club by the scruff off the neck and start with a Total clear out at least! |
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Post by mosher on Mar 22, 2023 15:01:33 GMT 1
That's just the problem though, the silence from the club is deafening. I'm sure they could share SOME news without derailing a takeover. As it is we have no choice but to listen to @htafc35 and Maynardblue for even the tiniest snippet. I think we’d be surprised how little they can share certainly about prospective owners. For example if either the Dutch or Americans don’t get it they won’t want other clubs knowing they were interested here first as it could affect negotiations for another club, the media always leak names but it rarely gets officially stated by a club before anything is signed. Yeah, I don't mean actually naming names or anything like that, but we've heard absolutely NOTHING. Not even a confirmation or denial that there's parties definitely interested, or a deal is close/not close. EG the world and their mother knew the Saudis were interested in the Geordies WAY before the deal was actually completed. I know they're a different proposition to Town but there were still bits of official information given out. I understand what you mean about affecting negotiations with other clubs, but it doesn't/didn't seem to hamper other clubs and buyers, ie Jim Ratcliffe, Marcus Evans, Adam Pearson and a few others have tried buying more than one club at different times in the past. |
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Post by Sio on Mar 22, 2023 15:03:00 GMT 1
@htafc35 , are you prepared to admit or deny that this information comes through Hoyle? Nothing from DH, just what I have been told and like much on here is speculation based on multiple sources that have in the past pretty much always been correct but sometimes proven wrong also. I don’t know DH personally, I am a fan however and believe he has been involved in the best footballing years of my life and should be given some slack. I think some of the info I heard should be shared as we are all in the dark I just hope the club comes out soon with an announcement so we can move on. If you want my opinion then I would like the North American investment as from what I have heard it could be more interesting. I have no say or choice in the matter and just hope whatever deal is agreed it is for the good of HTAFC and not for the good of DH or any other person for that matter. And I would be happy for DH to be fully gone It just doesn’t sound possible in the short term. I was told we were going Dutch the information given may also be wrong. From what I have heard all parties interested in buying the club could be interesting and there will always be pros and cons with any option. UTT Hmmm this is all very fishy. You've made several posts over the last 24 hours about the major risks involved in the US deal - and, in fact, saying it isn't even a viable option - and talked on and on about how the Dutch deal is right for the Club. You now actually want the USA investment even though they could pump money in, leave, and then topple us? Your original messages and this message do not add up. Dictated messages vs personal preference, perhaps? I'm sorry but I don't believe that you do not know Dean personally - perhaps I shouldn't have asked if I wasn't going to believe you. But your chopping and changing points exactly in the direction of someone being asked/told to send these messages. |
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Post by DuffMan on Mar 22, 2023 15:04:31 GMT 1
Yeah it is frustrating, the best info the IKOs could provide at the minute is a clear idea of when we might have some form of official information
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Mar 22, 2023 15:08:24 GMT 1
Milligan, Everett, Cleese......Sessions Never got the love for Everett, personally. Really? Absolute legend IMO |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 22, 2023 15:08:37 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t... However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) - Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break ! They're all tuned into Jackanory story time that's happening down in Westminster... |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 22, 2023 15:09:09 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t... However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) - Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break ! They're probably all trying to work out how old our oldest living player, Graham Bailey, is. The tweet says happy 103rd birthday with Boothy holding up a shirt saying 101? Amateur hour. Edit: My bad. They were just revisiting an old vid from two years ago 😬 |
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Post by runner76 on Mar 22, 2023 15:11:05 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t... However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) - Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break ! They're probably all trying to work out how old our oldest living player, Graham Bailey, is. The tweet says happy 103rd birthday with Boothy holding up a shirt saying 101? Amateur hour. Can he get a short term contract to end of season? Might be able to do a job with in current squad… |
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 22, 2023 15:11:29 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t... However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) - Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break ! Maybe they just recognise your number ? 🤔🤣 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 22, 2023 15:12:08 GMT 1
They're probably all trying to work out how old our oldest living player, Graham Bailey, is. The tweet says happy 103rd birthday with Boothy holding up a shirt saying 101? Amateur hour. Can he get a short term contract to end of season? Might be able to do a job with in current squad… He looks younger than Will Boyle anyway 🤣 |
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Post by jackosbrylcream on Mar 22, 2023 15:15:32 GMT 1
I might have missed something after scanning through the 11 pages so forgive me if I have. Won't ANY deal done with the AZ owners relegate us to becoming a feeder club?...a "B" team in all but name? If that's the case, I don't see how that turd can be polished or sugar coated to make it even the least bit palatable. You could accept being a feeder club to a big side like a PSV or Ajax but it is typical Town to become a feeder club to a side with a smaller stadium and ultimately less potential than ourselves The side with less potential that are level on points with PSV, 2 behind Ajax and in a European quarterfinal having just knocked out Lazio, who as it goes are 2nd in Serie A? |
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 22, 2023 15:18:02 GMT 1
DuffMan: Just so you know, Maynard has been contributing valuable, consistently accurate to the best of his/her knowledge gems of info to this forum for about a decade. Seriously - a decade. Indeed, 8 posts in and you seem very familiar with your surroundings here. Very, let's say, 'steady on your feet'. I'd be willing to gamble it's not your first rodeo. You seem to have one purpose. Interest in one thread and one thread only. Just my observations. Always healthy to question everything, of course, including folk's sources.
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Post by paulmat on Mar 22, 2023 15:24:26 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t... However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) - Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break ! They're probably all trying to work out how old our oldest living player, Graham Bailey, is. The tweet says happy 103rd birthday with Boothy holding up a shirt saying 101? Amateur hour. Happy 1️⃣0️⃣3️⃣rd Birthday to Graham Bailey, our oldest living ex-Terrier! 🎂 A couple of years back, to mark his 101st birthday, Club Ambassador Andy Booth went and paid Graham a visit at home 💙 We hope you have a brilliant day celebrating, Graham |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Mar 22, 2023 15:24:31 GMT 1
Apart from a few light hearted puns, I’ve not expanded any energy on the takeover situation, predominantly because I’m far away from any inside information, but I have read every post with interest of course but I’m unable to influence who it will eventually be or won’t... However I’ve been on to the club today regarding tickets, matchday Sky conformation dates, the club shop, and finally the main club switchboard - and NOBODY is answering phones in any division - (the shop did yesterday) - Are they being called to a meeting about administration... or a meeting about the new owners... or maybe it’s just the dinner hour and all have nipped up to The Yorkshire Rose for their lunch break ! They're probably all trying to work out how old our oldest living player, Graham Bailey, is. The tweet says happy 103rd birthday with Boothy holding up a shirt saying 101? Amateur hour. Boothy interviewed him 2 years ago. When he was 101. |
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Post by incognito on Mar 22, 2023 15:26:29 GMT 1
Partly agree but when the club are sharing bugger all, some info, no matter how biased, is welcome. I just wish folk could see that that is all it is, opinions based on bits of information and in no way the whole picture. I agree but also understand when it’s takeover stuff it’s always hush hush. The club will announce when something is signed I’d imagine. If everyone was rational I don’t think either would need to worry in sharing information but as it stands if Maynard says something even if it is an opinion (of which he is allowed of course) it is taken as good as a club statement, just read Twitter on any day when Maynard shares something, it spreads like wildfire as other people’s IKO source 😂 quite sad really. This isn’t a dig at either of htafc35 or Maynard btw just hope the club share the details properly when they can so everyone can make their own judgment and not rely on forum posts As an aside, what's the long form of 'IKO'?! When I saw it in one of your posts last night I immediately stuck on "Dr John's Gumbo"  I share your sentiment BTW. Looking at the numbers, 3% of the total visitors to DATM in the last 24 hours have posted on this thread. I'd like to think that at least a few of the remaining 97% are quietly awaiting some tangible information on the broad parameters of either prospective deal before they settle on a definitive stance. |
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Mar 22, 2023 15:28:23 GMT 1
They're probably all trying to work out how old our oldest living player, Graham Bailey, is. The tweet says happy 103rd birthday with Boothy holding up a shirt saying 101? Amateur hour. Can he get a short term contract to end of season? Might be able to do a job with in current squad… He'd bring the average age down |
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Post by isleofmanterrier on Mar 22, 2023 15:29:41 GMT 1
A few of my thoughts from things within this thread.
Mentioned that it is quite common for Ownership changes to take 2/3 years. Is it fuck. When Abramovich sold to Todd it was concluded in a few months. Pretty sure when Hull were taken over by the Turkish fella that didn’t drag on for years. There’s only one reason that our deal could be prolonged for years and that’s to try and facilitate Hoyle getting his loan back.
Now I’m not ‘entitled’ as some may be accused of previously. I had absolutely no problem with Dean getting his money back under the previous circumstances and deal. But this stinks for HTAFC. I don’t care if his deal is 3.5million for the next 10 years, it’s money the club doesn’t have. In his own words the club needs 5-10million a season putting in just to stand still and operate at break even. So where in gods fucking name does the extra money come from for his repayment?!
Maybe we’ll get lucky and the proposed new Dutch owners will be brilliant and unearth enough gems to either get us promoted or have enough saleable assets to facilitate his payments but I’m not holding my breath on that one.
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Post by DuffMan on Mar 22, 2023 15:30:17 GMT 1
DuffMan : Just so you know, Maynard has been contributing valuable, consistently accurate to the best of his/her knowledge gems of info to this forum for about a decade. Seriously - a decade. Indeed, 8 posts in and you seem very familiar with your surroundings here. Very, let's say, 'steady on your feet'. I'd be willing to gamble it's not your first rodeo. You seem to have one purpose. Interest in one thread and one thread only. Just my observations. Always healthy to question everything, of course, including folk's sources. It isn't my first rodeo, I know his information is reliable I've been in and out of this forum for a long time he is a great source of info and we are lucky. I don't question his sources or that of htafc35, I question in this situation given the nature of it whether it is helping anyone to post opinions / half tales around the takeover. for example htafc35 started this thread and is now seemingly back tracking on whether we actually are going with this bid 100% maynard passes his personal opinions on this 'prospective' deal and with the power he holds over certain posters whips everyone into a frenzy, now that isn't his problem I realise that but just think it's worth a thought and discussion for perspective. |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 22, 2023 15:32:46 GMT 1
and Jimmy Carr IS funny
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Post by dezzly on Mar 22, 2023 15:35:02 GMT 1
DuffMan : Just so you know, Maynard has been contributing valuable, consistently accurate to the best of his/her knowledge gems of info to this forum for about a decade. Seriously - a decade. Indeed, 8 posts in and you seem very familiar with your surroundings here. Very, let's say, 'steady on your feet'. I'd be willing to gamble it's not your first rodeo. You seem to have one purpose. Interest in one thread and one thread only. Just my observations. Always healthy to question everything, of course, including folk's sources. It isn't my first rodeo, I know his information is reliable I've been in and out of this forum for a long time he is a great source of info and we are lucky. I don't question his sources or that of htafc35, I question in this situation given the nature of it whether it is helping anyone to post opinions / half tales around the takeover. for example htafc35 started this thread and is now seemingly back tracking on whether we actually are going with this bid 100% maynard passes his personal opinions on this 'prospective' deal and with the power he holds over certain posters whips everyone into a frenzy, now that isn't his problem I realise that but just think it's worth a thought and discussion for perspective. If I were to guess I dare say there is plenty info Maynard holds back.If he didn’t I think you would probably see what a real frenzy was. |
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Post by DuffMan on Mar 22, 2023 15:35:32 GMT 1
A few of my thoughts from things within this thread. Mentioned that it is quite common for Ownership changes to take 2/3 years. Is it fuck. When Abramovich sold to Todd it was concluded in a few months. Pretty sure when Hull were taken over by the Turkish fella that didn’t drag on for years. There’s only one reason that our deal could be prolonged for years and that’s to try and facilitate Hoyle getting his loan back. Now I’m not ‘entitled’ as some may be accused of previously. I had absolutely no problem with Dean getting his money back under the previous circumstances and deal. But this stinks for HTAFC. I don’t care if his deal is 3.5million for the next 10 years, it’s money the club doesn’t have. In his own words the club needs 5-10million a season putting in just to stand still and operate at break even. So where in gods fucking name does the extra money come from for his repayment?! Maybe we’ll get lucky and the proposed new Dutch owners will be brilliant and unearth enough gems to either get us promoted or have enough saleable assets to facilitate his payments but I’m not holding my breath on that one. I agree with this, but I also don't begrudge the bloke his brass. Just have to hope hoyle is willing to take a real cut in what he's owed. If he walks away for 5-10 mill I could swallow that |
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Post by stinkypete on Mar 22, 2023 15:35:39 GMT 1
Go on then, who amuses you ? Milligan, Everett, Cleese......Sessions This has gone over a lot of people’s heads! 😂 |
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 22, 2023 15:39:41 GMT 1
For me it's got to be, Davidson, Ullman, Trinder, Carson and Hancock |
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