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Post by Porrohman on May 14, 2023 18:06:52 GMT 1
1) subsidised travel for away fans, similar to the coaches laid on for Cardiff away. Real shame they only put on 10, this prevented me from going.. for games like Plymouth away, if it's on a Saturday the club should be doing everything in their power to fill the away end.. 2) the matchday is experience is really poor. The stadium should be a place you want to have a beer before and after the game. The catering is shite, but there actually some good concourse areas to sup. 3) if there is demand, give away fans part of the Riverside upper tier, giving them maybe 3800 allocation? I remember Sunderland had it back in 1997 was it, so surely it would be feasible. 4) the displaced fans from the Riverside upper as mentioned above should be relocated into the north stand lower, it's a bit time pot not having this stand open. 5) the derelict driving range would make an ideal fan park. Though would anyone use it? 6) make it easier to give your ticket to another fan of you are unable to make a match, didn't we have something like this before? So take Town fans that have a good view and are under cover and put them in the open with a shit view ? Not everyone wants to be behind the goals. The couple of times I've gone in the SS it's been shit. The view is terrible. |
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Post by CurlyWurly on May 14, 2023 18:22:43 GMT 1
1) subsidised travel for away fans, similar to the coaches laid on for Cardiff away. Real shame they only put on 10, this prevented me from going.. for games like Plymouth away, if it's on a Saturday the club should be doing everything in their power to fill the away end.. 2) the matchday is experience is really poor. The stadium should be a place you want to have a beer before and after the game. The catering is shite, but there actually some good concourse areas to sup. 3) if there is demand, give away fans part of the Riverside upper tier, giving them maybe 3800 allocation? I remember Sunderland had it back in 1997 was it, so surely it would be feasible. 4) the displaced fans from the Riverside upper as mentioned above should be relocated into the north stand lower, it's a bit time pot not having this stand open. 5) the derelict driving range would make an ideal fan park. Though would anyone use it? 6) make it easier to give your ticket to another fan of you are unable to make a match, didn't we have something like this before? So take Town fans that have a good view and are under cover and put them in the open with a shit view ? Not everyone wants to be behind the goals. The couple of times I've gone in the SS it's been shit. The view is terrible. 100% this. No one wants to sit there so moving people with the best seat in the house isn't going to go down well. I probably wouldn't renew if I was made to sit in there. I'm not precious enough to say I wouldn't sit elsewhere i.e South stand, Kilner bank but not everyone would fit |
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Post by Mastercracker on May 14, 2023 18:52:14 GMT 1
Move town fans to the shit seats to pay for my travel to away games. Belting idea.
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Post by htfc63 on May 14, 2023 18:58:18 GMT 1
Must admit I would not want to be moved to accommodate away fans when I have a settled seat. Equally why should we increase capacity for away fans when it would give them a bigger advantage to cheer on their side. We get a pretty poor deal at some away grounds regarding numbers, positioning and cost so make sure our home fans are looked after first and foremost.
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Post by Champers on May 14, 2023 19:36:51 GMT 1
Simple yet entertaining stuff, usually featuring one or two first team players. Might have them playing a "Mr & Mrs" style game, maybe a quiz about their Fifa ratings, ranking their teammates goals, skills, etc. These things dont take much in terms of time or production value but certainly help create a connect between players and supporters. When Raj came in we looked to be going down that route, but it very quickly fell off and I think we're missing a trick on this. Most of it is very informal but it gives fans a greater insight into player personalities, plenty of poking fun at each other, etc. A lot of clubs will produce things in association with a certain club sponsor which maximises their investment too. I spend an awful lot of time watching this kind of thing, and judging by the views on the content Sky Sports' channel puts out then I'm certainly not alone, but I'd much rather be watching things Town focused. Agree - more stuff like this please...I don't care about the football content, I can see their ability and what they're doing on the pitch with my own eyes, just give us a bit more insight into the characters that we can't really glean from watching match highlights, edited training videos, and boring shots of footballers arriving at a stadium in lazy 'access all areas' clips. Exactly mate, and the video you've posted is a perfect example of what I really would like to see us building on. Gives some excellent exposure to our club partners and encourages them to keep investing in our project, and allows us to learn a little bit more about our players, which in turn should help supporters feel more of a connection towards them. The way people view media has changed, and we should be looking to capitalise on that as much as possible as there are a multitude of benefits to it all. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 14, 2023 20:15:01 GMT 1
A lot is made of this march day experience, I mean I turn up at 5 to 3 to watch a game, hopefully with a good atmosphere and some entertainment with Town winning, this 'match day experience' thingy is absolutely lost on me, it really is, I mean do people turn up at games for anything over that cheering on Town to victory, to promotion, to avoid relegation as in this last few months? I must be getting old other world has gone mad.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 14, 2023 20:24:59 GMT 1
A lot is made of this march day experience, I mean I turn up at 5 to 3 to watch a game, hopefully with a good atmosphere and some entertainment with Town winning, this 'match day experience' thingy is absolutely lost on me, it really is, I mean do people turn up at games for anything over that cheering on Town to victory, to promotion, to avoid relegation as in this last few months? I must be getting old other world has gone mad. Some people arrive at the the ground over an hour before kick off. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 14, 2023 20:25:42 GMT 1
A lot is made of this march day experience, I mean I turn up at 5 to 3 to watch a game, hopefully with a good atmosphere and some entertainment with Town winning, this 'match day experience' thingy is absolutely lost on me, it really is, I mean do people turn up at games for anything over that cheering on Town to victory, to promotion, to avoid relegation as in this last few months? I must be getting old other world has gone mad. Some people arrive at the the ground over an hour before kick off. Whaaaat? What the hell for? |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 14, 2023 20:26:16 GMT 1
Some people arrive at the the ground over an hour before kick off. Whaaaat? What the hell for? Ha ha. For the match day experience!!!! |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 14, 2023 20:27:55 GMT 1
Whaaaat? What the hell for? Ha ha. For the match day experience!!!! Good answer. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2023 20:38:30 GMT 1
A lot is made of this march day experience, I mean I turn up at 5 to 3 to watch a game, hopefully with a good atmosphere and some entertainment with Town winning, this 'match day experience' thingy is absolutely lost on me, it really is, I mean do people turn up at games for anything over that cheering on Town to victory, to promotion, to avoid relegation as in this last few months? I must be getting old other world has gone mad. Its watching the football only for me.Don't understand the need for food/beer at the ground.I should know better at my age but I still have a skinful on a Saturday,wouldn't dream of buying a pint in the ground. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 14, 2023 21:01:22 GMT 1
A lot is made of this march day experience, I mean I turn up at 5 to 3 to watch a game, hopefully with a good atmosphere and some entertainment with Town winning, this 'match day experience' thingy is absolutely lost on me, it really is, I mean do people turn up at games for anything over that cheering on Town to victory, to promotion, to avoid relegation as in this last few months? I must be getting old other world has gone mad. Its watching the football only for me.Don't understand the need for food/beer at the ground.I should know better at my age but I still have a skinful on a Saturday,wouldn't dream of buying a pint in the ground. I mean yeah, why do people need to eat a pie or a hotdog between the hours of 2 and 3? Do people normally down tools on a Tiesday afternoon at for a pie at 3pm? I suspect not. |
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Post by Porrohman on May 14, 2023 21:15:15 GMT 1
Its watching the football only for me.Don't understand the need for food/beer at the ground.I should know better at my age but I still have a skinful on a Saturday,wouldn't dream of buying a pint in the ground. I mean yeah, why do people need to eat a pie or a hotdog between the hours of 2 and 3? Do people normally down tools on a Tiesday afternoon at for a pie at 3pm? I suspect not. You appear to have morphed into Prepare in that last sentence, mate 😁 |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 14, 2023 21:18:45 GMT 1
Its watching the football only for me.Don't understand the need for food/beer at the ground.I should know better at my age but I still have a skinful on a Saturday,wouldn't dream of buying a pint in the ground. I mean yeah, why do people need to eat a pie or a hotdog between the hours of 2 and 3? Do people normally down tools on a Tiesday afternoon at for a pie at 3pm? I suspect not. This part is lost on me too . Some people who sit near me spend almost the entire game eating. I’d rather concentrate on watching the game. |
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Post by terrier25 on May 14, 2023 21:21:10 GMT 1
Open a Kilner bank or main stand lower concourse bar after the game and show the 530 kick off. People go to legends bar to watch this but legends is quite small.
This would pay for itself quite easily. I believe Brighton do something similar
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Post by westislandterrier on May 14, 2023 21:30:29 GMT 1
Open a Kilner bank or main stand lower concourse bar after the game and show the 530 kick off. People go to legends bar to watch this but legends is quite small. This would pay for itself quite easily. I believe Brighton do something similar A very good idea is that ! - Once in people would wait I’m sure till at least the end of The 5.30pm kick off... For anyone wanting food perhaps a wee half time (in the TV game) kiosk or two could be another earner as well - Not sure how comfortable seating would work but a young team could set a few up between say 5-5.30pm - possibly worth looking at as a trial to see if it’d work - if not then they’re isn’t too much wasted on anything fancy or anything like that ! |
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Post by Champers on May 14, 2023 21:43:19 GMT 1
Ha ha. For the match day experience!!!! Good answer. Cracking assist from you though, art. Easy tap in at the back post for Overton 🤣 |
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Post by menstonterrier on May 14, 2023 21:46:47 GMT 1
I mean yeah, why do people need to eat a pie or a hotdog between the hours of 2 and 3? Do people normally down tools on a Tiesday afternoon at for a pie at 3pm? I suspect not. This part is lost on me too . Some people who sit near me spend almost the entire game eating. I’d rather concentrate on watching the game. It’s the people who need a pie or hotdog between 3 and 5 that get on my tits. |
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Post by terrierneil on May 14, 2023 22:00:35 GMT 1
Open a Kilner bank or main stand lower concourse bar after the game and show the 530 kick off. People go to legends bar to watch this but legends is quite small. This would pay for itself quite easily. I believe Brighton do something similar Standing in a gloomy, cold concrete tunnel for another 2 hours drinking £5 pints of John smiths from plastic cups? Fantastic suggestion. |
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Post by mosher on May 15, 2023 8:55:37 GMT 1
Simple yet entertaining stuff, usually featuring one or two first team players. Might have them playing a "Mr & Mrs" style game, maybe a quiz about their Fifa ratings, ranking their teammates goals, skills, etc. These things dont take much in terms of time or production value but certainly help create a connect between players and supporters. When Raj came in we looked to be going down that route, but it very quickly fell off and I think we're missing a trick on this. Most of it is very informal but it gives fans a greater insight into player personalities, plenty of poking fun at each other, etc. A lot of clubs will produce things in association with a certain club sponsor which maximises their investment too. I spend an awful lot of time watching this kind of thing, and judging by the views on the content Sky Sports' channel puts out then I'm certainly not alone, but I'd much rather be watching things Town focused. Agree - more stuff like this please...I don't care about the football content, I can see their ability and what they're doing on the pitch with my own eyes, just give us a bit more insight into the characters that we can't really glean from watching match highlights, edited training videos, and boring shots of footballers arriving at a stadium in lazy 'access all areas' clips. Wish that buzzing, happy, have-a-laugh Sorba was around now. Rather than the (alleged) sulky tosspot he's turned into. |
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Post by mosher on May 15, 2023 9:01:24 GMT 1
A lot is made of this march day experience, I mean I turn up at 5 to 3 to watch a game, hopefully with a good atmosphere and some entertainment with Town winning, this 'match day experience' thingy is absolutely lost on me, it really is, I mean do people turn up at games for anything over that cheering on Town to victory, to promotion, to avoid relegation as in this last few months? I must be getting old other world has gone mad. I get what you mean, sort of. My "match day experience" used to involve a drink in the concourse before the match, but only because my uncle (and my lift) had that as his routine back then, when JSS first opened: Peacock 2 pints, concourse 1 pint, half time 1 pint, full time Peacock. But since Uncle Andy died we've started getting to the ground 5-10 minutes before kick off, have our "match day experience" elsewhere, usually at one of our houses, tinnies, music (or Town video), fill the hip flask and then shoot to the match. |
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Post by royrace on May 15, 2023 9:08:12 GMT 1
Some people arrive at the the ground over an hour before kick off. Whaaaat? What the hell for? I think the idea is you get the people who enjoy a pre match drink, chat, food to spend their hard earned at the club rather than elsewhere. Also more chance of other merch sales etc if you have thousands of town fans milling around an hour or more before kick off. Great for kids too and helps build a connection with the club. Maybe attract others too and make the whole matchday experience more attractive (if you like that sort of thing!). |
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Post by detox on May 15, 2023 9:11:26 GMT 1
back some 20 years now when I lived in Fulham my neighbours were a French guy and his (gorgeous) Brazilian girlfriend. She was a student but used to work at Arsenal football ground on matchdays as one of a crew who walked the concourses dispensing beer/lager from a back back. This was in addition to the concessions selling beer and food etc, but if you just wanted a pint these guys were there to give you a quick fill up. Seemed such a good idea to me, and I have actually seen this since at cricket grounds and the odd summer fete i've attended. I suppose for those fans who like several pints you could take your own, disguised as food pack ...? Seriously though it's ridiculous fans having to miss 5 mins of the 1st half to join the queue or miss 5 mins of the 2nd half waiting to be served...or both !
So come on Town, get it sorted..I mean for the Kilner Bank stand there's space outside at both ends to have some beer stalls..In fact I remember going to Derby's new ground once and at half time they'd already pulled about 100 pints and placed them on the counter in anticipation of the rush. Does that happen at Town ever ?
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Post by detox on May 15, 2023 9:23:57 GMT 1
Must admit I would not want to be moved to accommodate away fans when I have a settled seat. Equally why should we increase capacity for away fans when it would give them a bigger advantage to cheer on their side. We get a pretty poor deal at some away grounds regarding numbers, positioning and cost so make sure our home fans are looked after first and foremost. Didn't the FA make a rule that 10% of stadium capacity is all clubs needed to allocate for away fans ? Most clubs now just stick to this even though they could allocate more . For Town we allocate a maximum of around 2,350 for league games although at Barnsley it's more like 20% as they have that dedicated away stand behind the goals. Seems the days of taking massive away fans to games are over for most games.
The North Stand though is a problem, with no apparent solution after 20+ years of the JSS. I know the plan was that the seats could be dismantled and used as a stage for concerts etc but that seems to have died a death in recent years. I hope our new owners come up with a solution as it looks totally naff and from what others have said cannot now be used due to safety issues anyway. Ideally it should be made into a proper facility and house away fans there and the south stand be a dedicated home end because that also looks naff split between home and away fans..
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Post by colnevalleyblue on May 15, 2023 9:37:05 GMT 1
Must admit I would not want to be moved to accommodate away fans when I have a settled seat. Equally why should we increase capacity for away fans when it would give them a bigger advantage to cheer on their side. We get a pretty poor deal at some away grounds regarding numbers, positioning and cost so make sure our home fans are looked after first and foremost. Didn't the FA make a rule that 10% of stadium capacity is all clubs needed to allocate for away fans ? Most clubs now just stick to this even though they could allocate more . For Town we allocate a maximum of around 2,350 for league games although at Barnsley it's more like 20% as they have that dedicated away stand behind the goals. Seems the days of taking massive away fans to games are over for most games.
The South Stand though is a problem, with no apparent solution after 20+ years of the JSS. I know the plan was that the seats could be dismantled and used as a stage for concerts etc but that seems to have died a death in recent years. I hope our new owners come up with a solution as it looks totally naff and from what others have said cannot now be used due to safety issues anyway. Ideally it should be made into a proper facility and house away fans there and the south stand be a dedicated home end because that also looks naff split between home and away fans..
I assume you meant North stand Detox. I don't think the issue is that the North Stand lower is unsafe, I think every area needs a safety 'check and verification' and we didn't apply for one in that area this season. It was said this was why we couldn't use it last season but then we got in the playoffs and opened it for that game, so I assume we applied and was granted one for that match. If money and logistics were no object, I'd just have the upper tier dropped to ground level, do away with the lower tier and it would just be a single tiered stand. Obviously not possible due to the conference room, suites, boxes and gym but that's how I'd have preferred it to be. More or less a copy of the South stand. Not bothered about a fan park, been to a few of them in the Prem and championship and at Wembley and not my cup of tea. Town centre is a 10-15 min walk away and there's plenty of bars, cafe's and shops there, that actually really need all the custom they can get. There's food places on the Old Leeds Road site if people are hungry. We are lacking a pub in the vicinity of the ground but clearly they weren't making enough money, Ropewalks shut down, Gas Club's been closed for 3/4 years now. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 15, 2023 9:48:54 GMT 1
Whaaaat? What the hell for? I think the idea is you get the people who enjoy a pre match drink, chat, food to spend their hard earned at the club rather than elsewhere. Also more chance of other merch sales etc if you have thousands of town fans milling around an hour or more before kick off. Great for kids too and helps build a connection with the club. Maybe attract others too and make the whole matchday experience more attractive (if you like that sort of thing!). Folk must have too much brass that's all I can say. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 15, 2023 10:24:13 GMT 1
I like the idea of a fan park.
Big Screens showing the football , food and drink all in one place etc.
As someone mentioned previously, there would also be an increase in people around the ground earlier ( apart from Art ) so the club shop would benefit.
This would also enable people to take their seat in time for kick off etc.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 15, 2023 10:50:33 GMT 1
back some 20 years now when I lived in Fulham my neighbours were a French guy and his (gorgeous) Brazilian girlfriend. She was a student but used to work at Arsenal football ground on matchdays as one of a crew who walked the concourses dispensing beer/lager from a back back. This was in addition to the concessions selling beer and food etc, but if you just wanted a pint these guys were there to give you a quick fill up. Seemed such a good idea to me, and I have actually seen this since at cricket grounds and the odd summer fete i've attended. I suppose for those fans who like several pints you could take your own, disguised as food pack ...? Seriously though it's ridiculous fans having to miss 5 mins of the 1st half to join the queue or miss 5 mins of the 2nd half waiting to be served...or both ! So come on Town, get it sorted..I mean for the Kilner Bank stand there's space outside at both ends to have some beer stalls..In fact I remember going to Derby's new ground once and at half time they'd already pulled about 100 pints and placed them on the counter in anticipation of the rush. Does that happen at Town ever ? I went to watch Hamburg about 6/7 years ago, and they had the same. Big open concourse, quite a few people employed with Ghostbuster style backpacks to dispense ale from. No particular queues anywhere and everyone that wanted a drink must've found it easy to get one. Difference being that over there you could carry the beer out onto the terrace. We were in the Hamburg 'end' with all the ultras etc, they won 1-0 and when Van Der Vaart pinged one in the top corner there must've been 100 pints flying through the air. |
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Post by detox on May 15, 2023 11:02:47 GMT 1
Didn't the FA make a rule that 10% of stadium capacity is all clubs needed to allocate for away fans ? Most clubs now just stick to this even though they could allocate more . For Town we allocate a maximum of around 2,350 for league games although at Barnsley it's more like 20% as they have that dedicated away stand behind the goals. Seems the days of taking massive away fans to games are over for most games.
The South Stand though is a problem, with no apparent solution after 20+ years of the JSS. I know the plan was that the seats could be dismantled and used as a stage for concerts etc but that seems to have died a death in recent years. I hope our new owners come up with a solution as it looks totally naff and from what others have said cannot now be used due to safety issues anyway. Ideally it should be made into a proper facility and house away fans there and the south stand be a dedicated home end because that also looks naff split between home and away fans..
I assume you meant North stand Detox. I don't think the issue is that the North Stand lower is unsafe, I think every area needs a safety 'check and verification' and we didn't apply for one in that area this season. It was said this was why we couldn't use it last season but then we got in the playoffs and opened it for that game, so I assume we applied and was granted one for that match. If money and logistics were no object, I'd just have the upper tier dropped to ground level, do away with the lower tier and it would just be a single tiered stand. Obviously not possible due to the conference room, suites, boxes and gym but that's how I'd have preferred it to be. More or less a copy of the South stand. Not bothered about a fan park, been to a few of them in the Prem and championship and at Wembley and not my cup of tea. Town centre is a 10-15 min walk away and there's plenty of bars, cafe's and shops there, that actually really need all the custom they can get. There's food places on the Old Leeds Road site if people are hungry. We are lacking a pub in the vicinity of the ground but clearly they weren't making enough money, Ropewalks shut down, Gas Club's been closed for 3/4 years now. oops, yes..edited now...thanks |
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Post by townarentbest on May 15, 2023 12:19:06 GMT 1
The North Stand though is a problem, with no apparent solution after 20+ years of the JSS. I know the plan was that the seats could be dismantled and used as a stage for concerts etc but that seems to have died a death in recent years. Other than this a year ago,  And presumably Muse and Royal Blood will be doing similar in a few weeks time!? |
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