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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 15, 2023 6:44:35 GMT 1
Another one gone. A couple of injuries and the loss of these ‘fringe’ players might start to bite. Looks like we are some way off bringing anyone in as well. Good to see they have settled quickly into a routine of selling players without having any recognised replacements lined up. Piss poor. Despite a bad injury list, how many of those departing played a key role in our run in which was top 6 form? Add in the return of Yuta, Sorba, Turton, Nicholls. Imagine we did eventually replace those departed with better players, even half of them. Yes. I’d love to have those arrivals bedded in well before the start of the season but the window is open for longer. I’m not suggesting we’ll finish top 6 but the situation is not as dire as you continue to make out at this stage of the window. UTT
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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 15, 2023 6:46:19 GMT 1
Another one gone. A couple of injuries and the loss of these ‘fringe’ players might start to bite. Looks like we are some way off bringing anyone in as well. Good to see they have settled quickly into a routine of selling players without having any recognised replacements lined up. Piss poor. How long are you going to keep this up ? Every single post is a whinge about the new owners not spending. When the weakness of this squad is addressed. People seem to be happy living in a fantasy bubble where Kian Harratt gets 15 goals this season or Pat Jones plays 40+ games. We spent most of last season in the bottom 3 for a reason.
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Post by netherterrier on Jul 15, 2023 6:55:45 GMT 1
Will Bapaga scored for the B team, triallist?
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 15, 2023 7:02:24 GMT 1
so if you were offered the chance to triple your salary for an easier job you'd say no? Context is everything isn’t it. If I were already on 200k per week, had a wife and kids of school age and I was offered triple to live and work in Saudi I would abso fking lutely say no! If I were on 50k per year I might consider it but the answer would likely still be no. You can’t buy time with your kids growing up. Nature of his job though is moving around. Kids in that situation will either move around with said parent or go to boarding school if staying in the same place is important. There are benefits to experiencing a different culture if the kids go with him. There are some excellent International schools around the world who teach the children of parents whose job has them moving around a lot. Alternatively there's the boarding school route. A good friend of mine's Dad moved around a lot as he was high up in the army, so she went to boarding school and speaks positively about her experience. A colleague of mine worked at a different boarding school earlier in her career and spoke of a family atmosphere within the organisation for staff and pupils alike. It won't be for everyone, but that's not to say it's not for anyone.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 15, 2023 7:10:17 GMT 1
Holmes didn’t really play for Warnock. Boyle - played none. Camara - played none ?
Still to go ? Mahoney - played none Rhodes - a few sub appearances- goals none.
In previous seasons I would be worried and frustrated. This season we have warnock and he knows what he is doing ( as he pointed out to me ). He has shifted those players he won’t use to free up some cash. He will have known all of this before he signed again. Does anybody really think he would have taken the job if he didn’t his input on transfers ? I don’t.
Expect to see a right back (no mention of turton’s injury and when he might be back ) Central Midfield - a loan maybe. Striker - where any money will hopefully be spent.
Hungbo - would love him back but none of us know what Watford want to do with him. Maybe a last minute loan ?
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 15, 2023 7:10:20 GMT 1
How long are you going to keep this up ? Every single post is a whinge about the new owners not spending. We spent most of last season in the bottom 3 for a reason. Incorrect. 2 reasons and both were appalling management appointments
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 15, 2023 7:20:21 GMT 1
How long are you going to keep this up ? Every single post is a whinge about the new owners not spending. When the weakness of this squad is addressed. People seem to be happy living in a fantasy bubble where Kian Harratt gets 15 goals this season or Pat Jones plays 40+ games. We spent most of last season in the bottom 3 for a reason. Are you aware of the EFL legislation that restricts what the club can spend?
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 15, 2023 7:21:23 GMT 1
How long are you going to keep this up ? Every single post is a whinge about the new owners not spending. When the weakness of this squad is addressed. People seem to be happy living in a fantasy bubble where Kian Harratt gets 15 goals this season or Pat Jones plays 40+ games. We spent most of last season in the bottom 3 for a reason. If I had a quid for every time someone said Harratt would score 15 goals this season on DATM I’d……. …..still be virtually skint as I’d have a quid and it’d come from you
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 15, 2023 8:14:53 GMT 1
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Post by rockwall on Jul 15, 2023 8:21:34 GMT 1
Another one gone. A couple of injuries and the loss of these ‘fringe’ players might start to bite. Looks like we are some way off bringing anyone in as well. Good to see they have settled quickly into a routine of selling players without having any recognised replacements lined up. Piss poor. You speak complete and utter nonsense. The 7 players being told they can leave contributed the square root of fuck all under NW. Holmes played about 25 mins. Rhodes wasn't fancied. Camara it seems doesn't have the right attitude. High, Boyle, Phillips and mahoney all aren't good enough. Whatever money we bring in from these, will go on someone to be in our main 11. I have a feeling you have been rejected by one of Nagels daughters as for some unknown reason you have it in for him.
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Post by rockwall on Jul 15, 2023 8:22:01 GMT 1
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Post by 66738 on Jul 15, 2023 8:27:53 GMT 1
And I do believe he didn’t want to be here. And I know we have already had the conversation about what Neil was going to say but stopped himself in the press conference. I still think more than ever that he was going to say “He has to change attitudes” but stopped himself to rephrase it to “certain bits in his game to cater for the Championship.” Best of luck to the lad. Hope we have a good sell on agreement. He should go on and be brilliant, if his mind lets him.
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 15, 2023 8:31:05 GMT 1
Will Bapaga scored for the B team, triallist? Young lad released by cov
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Post by jimhtfc on Jul 15, 2023 8:40:49 GMT 1
Cartwright interview is a good read, but does he not know we only sign ex players? quick throw him the ex players book. Ddon't need all that due diliengence stuff, when you sign ex players. How dare he think about doing research into a players character, we don't need that rubbish , just are you free ? or an ex player who isn't getting a kick elsehwere ? No its great that it seems, town are trying to get a structure to our recuritment, not just the usual. I am glad that Warnock seems to be getting a huge say in this also. i have a bit of a theory on the signing of all those ex players. At the time after we'd just dropped from the premier league we had a stack of players that had no interest in playing for the club once we'd been relegated. I think that badly burned us so we went for players that we knew had a decent attitude and were happy to play for us. Whilst there were a few that i didn't want us to re-sign, I can't think of any time where all the re-signed ex players attitudes haven't been spot on. Just seems like it was a low risk approach for a club.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 15, 2023 8:49:52 GMT 1
When the weakness of this squad is addressed. People seem to be happy living in a fantasy bubble where Kian Harratt gets 15 goals this season or Pat Jones plays 40+ games. We spent most of last season in the bottom 3 for a reason. If I had a quid for every time someone said Harratt would score 15 goals this season on DATM I’d……. …..still be virtually skint as I’d have a quid and it’d come from you All his posts are dramatic; full of daft exaggerations. I say exaggerations, because there is a pinch of truth in there.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jul 15, 2023 9:22:46 GMT 1
Bin off Mahoney too and then we’ve had a pretty good start to the window. We’ve got a base of players Warnock trusts, and creating some excess wage room should give us a shot at recruiting when the deals get more realistic.
If we had Schofield or Fotheringham at the helm I’d be concerned, but Warnock is canny enough to know what he’s doing. Hopefully some of the new guys that end up coming in will be from abroad where we get better bang for our buck.
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Post by leroy212 on Jul 15, 2023 9:30:45 GMT 1
Bin off Mahoney too and then we’ve had a pretty good start to the window. We’ve got a base of players Warnock trusts, and creating some excess wage room should give us a shot at recruiting when the deals get more realistic. If we had Schofield or Fotheringham at the helm I’d be concerned, but Warnock is canny enough to know what he’s doing. Hopefully some of the new guys that end up coming in will be from abroad where we get better bang for our buck. I agree, think most important thing is we get rid of dead wood and people who don't want to be here first. Then build from what's left
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 15, 2023 9:30:57 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 15, 2023 9:32:38 GMT 1
Bin off Mahoney too and then we’ve had a pretty good start to the window. We’ve got a base of players Warnock trusts, and creating some excess wage room should give us a shot at recruiting when the deals get more realistic. If we had Schofield or Fotheringham at the helm I’d be concerned, but Warnock is canny enough to know what he’s doing. Hopefully some of the new guys that end up coming in will be from abroad where we get better bang for our buck. I maintain that we're 7 players away from a squad that I'd be happy with, but there are players we could lose quite comfortably without needing to replace them. Mahoney is probably the most obvious of those - although given that we are (allegedly) paying some of Duane Holmes's wages just to free up some cash, the likelihood of us finding anyone to take over the contract of someone who isn't fit to lace Holmes's boots without paying most of their wages seems low. Unless we're paying him peanuts already, in which case binning him off won't save us much money anyway.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jul 15, 2023 9:38:46 GMT 1
He can’t be on a lot surely. No one else in the Championship would have gone for him. A truly bizarre signing.
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Post by cuz on Jul 15, 2023 9:43:05 GMT 1
So - if Karlan Grant as is rumoured, moves to Cardiff on loan what happens to the balance of monies owed to us. Do West Brom have to pay us the balance owed in full?
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 15, 2023 9:45:29 GMT 1
He can’t be on a lot surely. No one else in the Championship would have gone for him. A truly bizarre signing. If the rumours around Fotheringham's contract are to be believed, who knows?
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Jul 15, 2023 9:47:57 GMT 1
So - if Karlan Grant as is rumoured, moves to Cardiff on loan what happens to the balance of monies owed to us. Do West Brom have to pay us the balance owed in full? I think that only happens when the move is permanent.
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Post by haveitback on Jul 15, 2023 9:53:55 GMT 1
For the last 12 months no one has complained more than me about what's happened at the club. However these are exciting times, We shouldn't be getting all hot and bothered about no new signings yet, What I would be worried about is keeping players on the books who don't contribute, So for me the players we are letting go is a positive. Rhodes has been a great servant for the club but it's reality and I hope he finds I club who will look after him. As for camara great potential but if he doesn't want to be here then the right thing to do is sell. I'd be more worried if we want getting rid of these players. The quality will come
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 15, 2023 10:16:01 GMT 1
I, too, have no problem with clearing out those that don't want to be here or those who won't contribute much. It makes total sense to know what we have to spend, especially as it is too early for many Premier league players to be loaned out, as their clubs will want to see them pre-season first.
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Post by wildhogg on Jul 15, 2023 10:22:16 GMT 1
Zero chance of getting shut of Mahoney unless we pay up his contract and release him. He's not even a footballer, is he?
Looking at the list of out of contract players who are still available, there are loads who could do a job for us. Confident that we'll bring in at least 3 or 4 decent lads who will be able to make a valuable contribution. I understand why some people are getting anxious, but I'm pleased that we seem to be doing some due diligence - as opposed to panicking and bringing in rubbish.
None of the players we've let go will be missed. Sad that Camara has gone, but why keep him when he wasn't going to sign a new deal and would have walked away for nothing?
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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 15, 2023 11:01:37 GMT 1
For the last 12 months no one has complained more than me about what's happened at the club. However these are exciting times, We shouldn't be getting all hot and bothered about no new signings yet, What I would be worried about is keeping players on the books who don't contribute, So for me the players we are letting go is a positive. Rhodes has been a great servant for the club but it's reality and I hope he finds I club who will look after him. As for camara great potential but if he doesn't want to be here then the right thing to do is sell. I'd be more worried if we want getting rid of these players. The quality will come We haven’t signed anyone new. We’ve resigned a LB that no one was really sorry to see leave. We’ve lost 3, admittedly fringe, players from an already limited squad. We’re relying on a 75 year old manager having the energy to deal with another likely relegation scrap (not a dig at Warnock, he did a fantastic job last year) in what real sense are they ‘exciting times’?
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Post by Lovechops on Jul 15, 2023 11:10:34 GMT 1
For the last 12 months no one has complained more than me about what's happened at the club. However these are exciting times, We shouldn't be getting all hot and bothered about no new signings yet, What I would be worried about is keeping players on the books who don't contribute, So for me the players we are letting go is a positive. Rhodes has been a great servant for the club but it's reality and I hope he finds I club who will look after him. As for camara great potential but if he doesn't want to be here then the right thing to do is sell. I'd be more worried if we want getting rid of these players. The quality will come We haven’t signed anyone new. We’ve resigned a LB that no one was really sorry to see leave. We’ve lost 3, admittedly fringe, players from an already limited squad. We’re relying on a 75 year old manager having the energy to deal with another likely relegation scrap (not a dig at Warnock, he did a fantastic job last year) in what real sense are they ‘exciting times’? Blah, blah, blah I’m sure if you didn’t have anything to moan about you’d moan about not having anything to moan about!! Re Warnock who says he doesn’t have the energy ? Hodgson is older and manages ok , he has a good team behind him and we are starting to get the foundations for a new build and if some one can’t get excited about that and the journey we’re about to embark on then I’d say get off at the next stop ✋ .
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Post by Morning Norwood on Jul 15, 2023 11:17:24 GMT 1
He can’t be on a lot surely. No one else in the Championship would have gone for him. A truly bizarre signing. If you’re on about Mahoney, he’s on 10k a week. 1 year left on his contract too, so might take some shifting.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 15, 2023 11:19:09 GMT 1
He can’t be on a lot surely. No one else in the Championship would have gone for him. A truly bizarre signing. If you’re on about Mahoney, he’s on 10k a week. 1 year left on his contract too, so might take some shifting. If Mahoney is on 10k a week, then the club really did lose their minds last summer. No way did he deserve a contract on that , he has only played 14 games in 4 years previously.
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