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Post by Teddington Ted on May 15, 2023 19:12:33 GMT 1
Good grief. Let it go lads and pay your debts…
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 15, 2023 19:58:56 GMT 1
What an absolute disgrace from Cardiff, what about the poor man's family too?
Awful tragedy but just pay up.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 15, 2023 20:36:03 GMT 1
The grubby side of football right there.
The poor bloke is being treated like a piece of meat.
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Post by mosher on May 16, 2023 9:23:54 GMT 1
Fucking disgraceful from Cardiff that.
Let that lad RIP FFS!
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Post by westislandterrier on May 16, 2023 10:57:44 GMT 1
I was as happy as everyone else when Reading FC were (rightfully) deducted 6 points as it put them below Town at a critical time in the epic relegation bitchfight !
Thankfully now we can say it mattered not in our case as we finished more than 6 points ahead of them...
So with hindsight (and yes - it is a wonderful thing - indeed) and coupled with reading this about Cardiff’s attitude in this awful tragedy -
I’m now actually partly thinking that I wish that Reading FC somehow dodged the said deduction - as this would have sent Cardiff down...
Slightly hypocritical after ma relief and celebration at The Reading FC deduction - yep definitely - but that’s the current thoughts on ma take on this thread ! ☹️
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Post by Tinpot on May 16, 2023 11:21:00 GMT 1
Christ on a bike, that's appalling.
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Post by krtek on May 16, 2023 12:01:39 GMT 1
at the time I was thinking the bizarre performative grieving of the Cardiff fans (wreaths and memorial placards with stuff like "You'll always be a Bluebird" on them) for a player who has never even set foot in the ground was a bit troubling. But the club's craven attempts at welching out on the deal should earn them an agent/player boycott. But it never will because only money matters in this biz.
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Post by digs on May 16, 2023 12:30:25 GMT 1
Cardiff and Nantes are as bad as each other.
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Post by mosher on May 16, 2023 12:43:17 GMT 1
Cardiff and Nantes are as bad as each other. You'd think (for the sake of the lad and his family) they could come to some sort of amicability? Edit: Although Cardiff are more in the wrong if they've signed on the dotted line and he was THEIR player.
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Post by digs on May 16, 2023 12:46:47 GMT 1
Cardiff and Nantes are as bad as each other. You'd think (for the sake of the lad and his family) they could come to some sort of amicability? Edit: Although Cardiff are more in the wrong if they've signed on the dotted line and he was THEIR player. Both clubs wealthy owners,none took responsibility for his travel arrangements, Emiliano's father died shortly after,and his sister tried to take her own life,the clubs mustn't of heard of insurance.
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Post by mosher on May 16, 2023 12:56:39 GMT 1
You'd think (for the sake of the lad and his family) they could come to some sort of amicability? Edit: Although Cardiff are more in the wrong if they've signed on the dotted line and he was THEIR player. Both clubs wealthy owners,none took responsibility for his travel arrangements, Emiliano's father died shortly after,and his sister tried to take her own life,the clubs mustn't of heard of insurance. Complete and utter wankers on both sides.
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Post by Porrohman on May 16, 2023 12:57:59 GMT 1
Not offering Lamouchi a contract either, after he kept them up.
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Post by Tinpot on May 16, 2023 14:40:07 GMT 1
at the time I was thinking the bizarre performative grieving of the Cardiff fans (wreaths and memorial placards with stuff like "You'll always be a Bluebird" on them) for a player who has never even set foot in the ground was a bit troubling. But the club's craven attempts at welching out on the deal should earn them an agent/player boycott. But it never will because only money matters in this biz. Performative? How is this their fans' fault?
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Post by portugalterrier on May 16, 2023 14:56:00 GMT 1
You'd think (for the sake of the lad and his family) they could come to some sort of amicability? Edit: Although Cardiff are more in the wrong if they've signed on the dotted line and he was THEIR player. Both clubs wealthy owners,none took responsibility for his travel arrangements, Emiliano's father died shortly after,and his sister tried to take her own life,the clubs mustn't of heard of insurance. It would appear, and there is apparently a prospective court case, that Cardiff failed to tell their insurance brokers that they had signed the player, and are suing the insurance brokers saying they should “ have known”. I am awaiting the outcome from the court on this telapathic reasoning.
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Post by mosher on May 16, 2023 15:00:40 GMT 1
Both clubs wealthy owners,none took responsibility for his travel arrangements, Emiliano's father died shortly after,and his sister tried to take her own life,the clubs mustn't of heard of insurance. It would appear, and there is apparently a prospective court case, that Cardiff failed to tell their insurance brokers that they had signed the player, and are suing the insurance brokers saying they should “ have known”. I am awaiting the outcome from the court on this telapathic reasoning. How the hell should the insurers have known? Believe everything written in the paper? Or (as they did) wait for Cardiff to tell them/confirm the transfer. They're becoming ever more despicable with every bit of information that comes to light.
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Post by sabailand on May 16, 2023 15:00:55 GMT 1
Not offering Lamouchi a contract either, after he kept them up. Although he did keep them up 6 wins in 18 games wouldn't fill many at Cardiff with confidence for next season, on the season as an whole i thought Cardiff would have done much better.
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Post by terriers2000 on May 16, 2023 15:06:45 GMT 1
Pathetic by Cardiff
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Post by softboy on May 16, 2023 15:17:22 GMT 1
As I understand it from Talksport Cardiff claiming £110m Is based upon the amount of money they lost by being relegated. Had the transfer gone through they would have stayed up and not lost that money. Mmmm
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Post by moortownterrier on May 16, 2023 15:18:17 GMT 1
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Post by Galpharmer on May 16, 2023 15:22:16 GMT 1
Their chief exec was on Talksport, recorded interview. Sounded a right pompous cock. Sala one of their own? All the false grief? Just pay what you owe and persue the fuckers that put him on a shit plane.
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Post by softboy on May 16, 2023 15:25:20 GMT 1
The people who put him on the plane don’t have any monies, but the owner of Nantes does, that’s why they are pursuing Nantes.
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Post by Galpharmer on May 16, 2023 15:31:14 GMT 1
The people who put him on the plane don’t have any monies, but the owner of Nantes does, that’s why they are pursuing Nantes. The Cardiff owner has plenty of money. Easily enough to actually pay for the player and let it all lie. Let his family finally grieve.
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Post by royrace on May 16, 2023 16:30:30 GMT 1
As I understand it from Talksport Cardiff claiming £110m Is based upon the amount of money they lost by being relegated. Had the transfer gone through they would have stayed up and not lost that money. Mmmm Classy. So they're trying to kill Nantes basically as well as behaving in a vile grubby fashion when two people have lost their lives. They have zero chance of proving they'd have stayed up so what on earth is the point.
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Post by krtek on May 16, 2023 16:44:49 GMT 1
at the time I was thinking the bizarre performative grieving of the Cardiff fans (wreaths and memorial placards with stuff like "You'll always be a Bluebird" on them) for a player who has never even set foot in the ground was a bit troubling. But the club's craven attempts at welching out on the deal should earn them an agent/player boycott. But it never will because only money matters in this biz. Performative? How is this their fans' fault? is that what I posted? It could have been directed at the fans of any club really because they are all susceptible to it. It's more of a slightly grumpy comment on the ott level of public grieving shown for the death of a player who never played for the club and a player I'd guess a majority of them would never have even heard of before they signed him. I'm not blaming the fans because the club acted like dishonourable amoral shitehawks - that's an entirely separate thing.
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Post by tepidterrier on May 16, 2023 16:51:31 GMT 1
The amount claimed is ridiculous and the whole thing leaves an incredibly bad taste in the mouth, but it's indisputable that they have a right to claim something after being made to pay the transfer fee.
Doing so means a clear legal acknowledgement that he was their player when he died. So why did he not get in the plane Cardiff had arranged? And instead got in the dodgy plane with the dodgy pilot, arranged by his dodgy agent, who had much closer ties with Nantes than he did with Cardiff.
It's as clear grounds as could be for a legal case unfortunately. But I mainly feel for the remainder of his family, some of whom have died since from the grief.
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Post by Orinoco on May 16, 2023 16:53:56 GMT 1
It's the modern day game showing it's money side once again, will never stop watching or supporting Town, but the way the game is run our days is let's just say, not very good.
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Post by Tinpot on May 16, 2023 17:03:54 GMT 1
Performative? How is this their fans' fault? is that what I posted? It could have been directed at the fans of any club really because they are all susceptible to it. It's more of a slightly grumpy comment on the ott level of public grieving shown for the death of a player who never played for the club and a player I'd guess a majority of them would never have even heard of before they signed him. I'm not blaming the fans because the club acted like dishonourable amoral shitehawks - that's an entirely separate thing. You saying that their grief was performative suggests at the very least that you doubt their sincerity. Why? Only, it reads to me as though you doubt the fans' sincerity because you disagree with the conduct of their club.
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Post by krtek on May 16, 2023 17:40:54 GMT 1
You saying that their grief was performative suggests at the very least that you doubt their sincerity. Why? Only, it reads to me as though you doubt the fans' sincerity because you disagree with the conduct of their club. well all I can reply to this is that your reading comprehension is faulty in this case and there is nothing I can do about that. I did post that it was more of a comment on widespread public outpourings of grief in this era, which is something that get's my hackles up. This may mean that I'm a grumpy and innately bad person but it doesn't mean I'm blaming Cardiff fans for appalling decisions made by their club - maybe third time the charm!
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Post by bluestripe on May 16, 2023 17:54:05 GMT 1
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