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Post by wigster on Sept 16, 2023 1:22:34 GMT 1
If NW is leaving, let's wait for more info before we start hammering Mr Nagle.
From what I heard it is due to health reasons that he's going.
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 1:24:58 GMT 1
I’m reading Neil Warnock “The Gaffer” book currently. It was first published in 2013 but most of it is still relevant today. One particularly telling quote, “I had learned a long time ago you can’t take a club forward when you are watching your back all the time”. How very true it seems.
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 1:28:00 GMT 1
If NW is leaving, let's wait for more info before we start hammering Mr Nagle. From what I heard it is due to health reasons that he's going. One thing’s for sure. Warnock won’t lie about why (if) he’s leaving, you’ll get a 100% honest answer. If he’s fallen out with Nagle, he’ll say. Equally if he’s found working in Huddersfield whilst living in Cornwall too much of a strain, he’ll be forthcoming. You don’t get any flim flam from the man.
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Post by royrace on Sept 16, 2023 1:30:49 GMT 1
If NW is leaving, let's wait for more info before we start hammering Mr Nagle. From what I heard it is due to health reasons that he's going. Must just be a coincidence it comes right after be publicly criticised the club for not delivering the players be wanted Warnock doesn't suffer fools or being lied to, if he leaves before his contract is up that will be why. When you look at the way the window went, it's just a surprise he stayed this long. The tweet from kev probably the straw that broke the camels back.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Sept 16, 2023 6:42:58 GMT 1
The food and drink stalls.... Do those things really matter? They do if you're hungry or thirsty 😆
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Post by Flowerdisco on Sept 16, 2023 6:55:13 GMT 1
Of course being football fan's there will be a knee jerk reaction. Nagle is this Nagle is that instead of seeing what transpires. Maybe a total reset of how the club is run is a good thing. Time will tell. I don't really care who is Manager as long as my team do well and it's decent football to watch.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 16, 2023 6:58:37 GMT 1
A clear reminder why you shouldn't do SM when you are drunk, or late at night.....or both?!!
Let's see?!
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 16, 2023 6:59:20 GMT 1
I’m reading Neil Warnock “The Gaffer” book currently. It was first published in 2013 but most of it is still relevant today. One particularly telling quote, “I had learned a long time ago you can’t take a club forward when you are watching your back all the time”. How very true it seems. Should say “ can’t take a club forward when the clubs having to watch its back” !
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Post by sykeylad on Sept 16, 2023 7:16:55 GMT 1
I've slept on it and decided it might be for the best. Hopefully we have an amicable and decent hand over if Neil has had enough, for whatever reason, to a new coach.
Him moving aside gets rid of the what are we to do in the future and the people won't come here type here talk.
Not a Jones fan but if he gets the job at least he's experienced, driven, available and passionate. Not really a journey man too.
I think we have a good enough squad to be ok, everyone currently fit and still the January window to come, potentially with a full backroom longer term team in place ready for it.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Sept 16, 2023 7:30:23 GMT 1
The Warnock thing was only this season max. I'm no Nagle asre licker but let's think about this. Warnock has been a great manager but it's time to move on. I used to have a space invader game as a child but as much as I loved it and wanted it forever things change. NW in my opinion should have left at the end of last season after performing the miracle. We should have brought in a new guy new ideas (No not the scaffolders son ) If this is true and NW goes, let's be grateful to him. Also let's stick together get behind Nagle and whoever takes the wheel. Bitching and infighting only produces a negative impact. UTT
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 7:34:14 GMT 1
I’m reading Neil Warnock “The Gaffer” book currently. It was first published in 2013 but most of it is still relevant today. One particularly telling quote, “I had learned a long time ago you can’t take a club forward when you are watching your back all the time”. How very true it seems. Should say “ can’t take a club forward when the clubs having to watch its back” ! Care to elaborate?
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 7:37:16 GMT 1
The Warnock thing was only this season max. I'm no Nagle asre licker but let's think about this. Warnock has been a great manager but it's time to move on. I used to have a space invader game as a child but as much as I loved it and wanted it forever things change. NW in my opinion should have left at the end of last season after performing the miracle. We should have brought in a new guy new ideas (No not the scaffolders son ) If this is true and NW goes, let's be grateful to him. Also let's stick together get behind Nagle and whoever takes the wheel. Bitching and infighting only produces a negative impact. UTT But why now, just a few weeks into the season? We were told NW had signed on for the season, or much of it. This smacks of the Mark Robins affair when he resigned after the first game and simply looks like another shambles.
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Post by drumriggend on Sept 16, 2023 7:40:47 GMT 1
.. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Wasn’t expecting this.. Anyroad.. I did say a few weeks back it was a mistake to keep him on.. Never heed.. It’ll be Reyt.. Utft.. 🍻🍻
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 16, 2023 7:43:40 GMT 1
Warnock performed a miracle last season, but come on he’s not the be all and end all of our club. Can’t imagine he’s easy to work with. It might be a mutual decision having found a successor , let’s not throw our teddies out and slag Nagle off when it might not be owt to do with him! Just as much as Nagle ain't the be all and end all of the club either. Didn’t say he was, but folk quick to have a pop when they’ve no clue what’s going on!
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 16, 2023 7:46:22 GMT 1
So it’s official then?
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Post by Flowerdisco on Sept 16, 2023 7:47:05 GMT 1
The Warnock thing was only this season max. I'm no Nagle asre licker but let's think about this. Warnock has been a great manager but it's time to move on. I used to have a space invader game as a child but as much as I loved it and wanted it forever things change. NW in my opinion should have left at the end of last season after performing the miracle. We should have brought in a new guy new ideas (No not the scaffolders son ) If this is true and NW goes, let's be grateful to him. Also let's stick together get behind Nagle and whoever takes the wheel. Bitching and infighting only produces a negative impact. UTT But why now, just a few weeks into the season? We were told NW had signed on for the season, or much of it. This smacks of the Mark Robins affair when he resigned after the first game and simply looks like another shambles. Maybe they've found the right man to take over. Who knows? Maybe it's a case of timing. NW might have even decided its the right time to go and even been involved in the process of finding his replacement.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Sept 16, 2023 7:50:10 GMT 1
Or maybe it's all bollocks. Anyway 3 points at stake today, that should be priority rather than fueling the rumour mill.
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Post by dooky82 on Sept 16, 2023 7:53:24 GMT 1
I was wondering the same after reading some of the posts above. If it is just bollocks some of the folk who have posted are going to look a bit silly.
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 16, 2023 7:53:34 GMT 1
I must admit I was in the 'Warnock should have left' camp. He and Ronnie should have sailed off into the sunset after last seasons great escape.
I also believe however that with our miniscule budget no other manager could get the same tune out of the squad that he could.
If this is all true then the next manager appointment is crucial. Nathan Jones will piss off many fans.
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Sept 16, 2023 7:57:20 GMT 1
I never expected Warnock to stay for the whole season anyway. A departure in September feels a bit premature, but it’s just speeding up the inevitable. I imagine there’ll be a lot of speculation about Warnock and Nagle, but it might be fair to say that Warnock’s dig was merely that, and Warnock’s impending departure at, say, Christmas, was brought forward for other reasons.
Pressure on the club to get the next appointment right now. Presumably they’ve used the international break to find the right person. Hopefully Neil can sign off with a win!
Everything will be okay.
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Sept 16, 2023 7:57:44 GMT 1
I am not for a second saying this is a good thing. Far from it. However I have noticed all season in his Press conferences he doesn’t seem (NW) to have the same enthusiasm and excitement as last season. Perhaps he wanted out deep down and has created something to aid that along? Advocate of the devil of course.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 16, 2023 7:57:45 GMT 1
The budget has to fall within the prescribed limits of FFP, the budget had already been submitted by Hoyle because the budget was basically set by FFP. Is it normal for the old owners to submit budgets for new owners? 🤔 When the new owner isn't the owner st deadline of submission then yes. Nagle can change it in Jan. Baldwin/Hoyle set this one for summer window.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Sept 16, 2023 8:02:26 GMT 1
Wonder if his replacement was working down the road not so long ago…
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 8:06:34 GMT 1
Wonder if his replacement was working down the road not so long ago… Marsch? 🫣. Not good enough there, won’t be good enough for us.
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 8:07:46 GMT 1
May well be pure speculation his time is ending but too many “itk” posters seem to think otherwise.
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Post by irverino on Sept 16, 2023 8:08:09 GMT 1
If NW is leaving, let's wait for more info before we start hammering Mr Nagle. From what I heard it is due to health reasons that he's going. Must just be a coincidence it comes right after be publicly criticised the club for not delivering the players be wanted Warnock doesn't suffer fools or being lied to, if he leaves before his contract is up that will be why. When you look at the way the window went, it's just a surprise he stayed this long. The tweet from kev probably the straw that broke the camels back. Like most I was hoping they had moved on after the WBA result, unless a new spat over the last fortnight has developed then maybe your assumption could be correct......We can only hope these are SM frenzy rumours & all is sweet at present, it could also be wishful thinking.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 16, 2023 8:09:42 GMT 1
What a mess. If it’s Jones then it’s a real bitter pill to swallow for a lot of fans I’d imagine. Going from a legend to that guy.
His conduct is strange and lacks class - sounds like he’s a bit of a weirdo and might alienate people. He used to criticise our club as a rival manager and from a distance I’m not sure he’s the right man manager to put his arm around the shoulder and get the most out of a squad that has quite a few young players in it.
Nagle will get some really toxic abuse and there’s no margin for error now. I can see it going very wrong pretty quickly.
The cost of getting rid of everyone and brining new people in could have bought us a player.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Sept 16, 2023 8:10:27 GMT 1
Wonder if his replacement was working down the road not so long ago… Marsch? 🫣. Not good enough there, won’t be good enough for us. Agreed. Just wondering if there’s a connection somewhere (taking away the American one).
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 16, 2023 8:12:53 GMT 1
As I said Warnock will be gone by Xmas. Dogs abuse received on here.
For sure Warnock will tell us the real reason.
One thing that warnock said always worried “I liked Kevin because he was buying the club regardless of which division we were in”.
Cue - get rid of 17 players and sign 4 with no striker. Many warnock targets missed.
Does it seem fair to assume that Nagle isn’t concerned with which division we are in ?
They don’t have relegation in most American sports ? Does he even understand what relegation means to the fans ?
Something is a foot.
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Post by boooothy on Sept 16, 2023 8:19:43 GMT 1
We’ve made decisions assuming Warnock is manager. I can’t believe any of the other 91 league managers would rather have Hudlin than Rhodes. Selling Camara etc.
IF he leaves it reflects badly on all involved, amateur hour, Mickey Mouse and all the others.
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