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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 15, 2023 22:50:46 GMT 1
The budget was set by Hoyle, this has been covered at length previously. No it wasn't. Why lie? Nagle set the budget. No he didn’t , the budget was set by Baldwin under Hoyles direction.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 15, 2023 22:51:18 GMT 1
Nothing to do with the fact the chairman set a wage budget that means we can't even compete with league 2 Notts County? The budget was set by Hoyle, this has been covered at length previously. I thought that myth had been debunked. Nagle set the budget
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 22:53:47 GMT 1
No it wasn't. Why lie? Nagle set the budget. No he didn’t , the budget was set by Baldwin under Hoyles direction. Nagle can change the budget any time he wants. He submitted it when he took over.
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Post by terriers2000 on Sept 15, 2023 22:56:56 GMT 1
Jones at the game tomorrow ??
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Post by belizian on Sept 15, 2023 23:02:44 GMT 1
Don't like it but pushing an unhappy Warnock out and new man in now, rather than later, makes sense from the owners perspective. Yanks don't pussyfoot around in business. That's why they're often so successful.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 15, 2023 23:04:33 GMT 1
No he didn’t , the budget was set by Baldwin under Hoyles direction. Nagle can change the budget any time he wants. He submitted it when he took over. The budget has to fall within the prescribed limits of FFP, the budget had already been submitted by Hoyle because the budget was basically set by FFP.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 15, 2023 23:05:34 GMT 1
What's interesting is Warnock won't have been cheap. Getting rid won't be cheap. Jones is probably still being paid by Saints in some capacity which we will need to settle.
Yet we couldn't afford a striker.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 15, 2023 23:06:31 GMT 1
Nagle can change the budget any time he wants. He submitted it when he took over. The budget has to fall within the prescribed limits of FFP, the budget had already been submitted by Hoyle because the budget was basically set by FFP. That’s what I thought. But Nagle can submit a new budget for January window….I think
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 23:06:49 GMT 1
Nagle can change the budget any time he wants. He submitted it when he took over. The budget has to fall within the prescribed limits of FFP, the budget had already been submitted by Hoyle because the budget was basically set by FFP. Is it normal for the old owners to submit budgets for new owners? 🤔
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 23:07:18 GMT 1
The budget has to fall within the prescribed limits of FFP, the budget had already been submitted by Hoyle because the budget was basically set by FFP. That’s what I thought. But Nagle can submit a new budget for January window….I think He previously said he wouldn't be doing that.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 15, 2023 23:09:44 GMT 1
My info from a few weeks ago that there were “ issues” , Maynard mentioned about Warnocks ways in other posts previously, these “ ways” were not overstated. Employing Warnock comes with difficulties, sometimes they are tolerated and sometimes a line has to be drawn, that line may be drawn in the next couple of days or the next couple of weeks. If Warnock does go it will purely down to him. Nothing to do with the fact the chairman set a wage budget that means we can't even compete with league 2 Notts County? This has nothing to do with budgets, or money, it’s pure and simple down to “issues” with conduct.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 15, 2023 23:13:09 GMT 1
The budget has to fall within the prescribed limits of FFP, the budget had already been submitted by Hoyle because the budget was basically set by FFP. Is it normal for the old owners to submit budgets for new owners? 🤔 When the budgets were submitted, Hoyle was still the owner.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 23:14:44 GMT 1
Is it normal for the old owners to submit budgets for new owners? 🤔 When the budgets were submitted, Hoyle was still the owner. You're wrong.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 15, 2023 23:17:09 GMT 1
When the budgets were submitted, Hoyle was still the owner. You're wrong. I’m not, I’m not bothered , the issues with Warnock are nothing to do with budgets, it’s to do with Warnock being Warnock.
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Post by ebargum on Sept 15, 2023 23:18:17 GMT 1
Is it normal for the old owners to submit budgets for new owners? 🤔 When the budgets were submitted, Hoyle was still the owner. There's no point educating this kid. He just ignores the facts and league rules.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 15, 2023 23:20:18 GMT 1
I’m not, I’m not bothered , the issues with Warnock are nothing to do with budgets, it’s to do with Warnock being Warnock. i guess its about, how much control he gets on players etc ?
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Sept 15, 2023 23:20:53 GMT 1
Love NW for what he did last season but think self preservation kicked in, think he took the job knowing about the budget but thought he could squeeze more out of KN knowing how much he wanted him back but he’s stood firm and now he didn’t fancy the job knowing what a struggle it is. The comments about not knowing Koroma, Ruffles and Wards contracts would be taken out of the budget thinking they had already come out is very odd…why would they? At that point Ruffles wasn’t retained while JK and Ward hadn’t been decided on so how would we know how much to take off the budget? Strange comments from him that. This seasons bad start is as much his fault as it is the recruitment teams, his stubbornness to take a 4-0 drumming before he changed it is poor from him..and as for his loyalty to Danny Wardnock 🙄 wish him the best but my worry is we just get someone cheap and desperate.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 15, 2023 23:22:43 GMT 1
When the budgets were submitted, Hoyle was still the owner. There's no point educating this kid. He just ignores the facts and league rules. Oh look here he is, the poster that contributes FUCK ALL other than snidey comments.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 15, 2023 23:25:36 GMT 1
I’m not, I’m not bothered , the issues with Warnock are nothing to do with budgets, it’s to do with Warnock being Warnock. i guess its about, how much control he gets on players etc ? It isn’t it’s Warnock doing Warnock things.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 15, 2023 23:48:22 GMT 1
What's the reference to ex owner shaking his head?
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Post by boooothy on Sept 15, 2023 23:48:26 GMT 1
Warnock walking away now would undo all the good he did and leave us staring at relegation just like when he arrived.
If Nagel forces him out, he’s a retard.
Surely common sense will prevail on both sides and he’ll stay till we look like we’re getting 50 points?
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Post by efesodje23 on Sept 15, 2023 23:52:10 GMT 1
Warnock walking away now would undo all the good he did and leave us staring at relegation just like when he arrived. If Nagel forces him out, he’s a retard. Surely common sense will prevail on both sides and he’ll stay till we look like we’re getting 50 points? If you're gonna call someone a retard it's probably best to at least get their name right
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2023 23:59:08 GMT 1
Warnock walking away now would undo all the good he did and leave us staring at relegation just like when he arrived. If Nagel forces him out, he’s a retard. Surely common sense will prevail on both sides and he’ll stay till we look like we’re getting 50 points? If you're gonna call someone a retard it's probably best to at least get their name right Good spot at midnight !
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 0:19:34 GMT 1
If this is true I'll be fucking fuming. Fuming? I’ll be fucking livid! 🤬 Just clocked all this and if it happens, it’ll be an absolute travesty. Replacing Neil with Nathan Jones(!), what a little a scrote. He’ll have a hell of a job getting the fans on board. If he’s walking - and I can’t say I’d blame him given the near zero backing in the summer window - that’s one thing, but if he’s been given the bullet, the board have completely and utterly not got the fan base. Jeez, it’s the team that plays in white down the A62 that are usually all over the place but seems we are set to replace them. Atmosphere tomorrow will be very, very interesting because if this it, he’ll get a phenomenal reception.
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 0:23:52 GMT 1
If this is true which I very much doubt then it’s a disgrace. Even more so if we’re getting in Nathan Jones who has in the past slagged the club and fans. Neil Warnock has done so much for this club it would be a travesty if we let him go so early on in the season. A massive own goal for Nagle and the new board and a massive pr own goal for the club. In the long run it’ll save me a fortune as I’d be giving town a miss after this season. The only reason I bought another season ticket was because Warnock was staying. Pretty much where I was at. I’m not one for slinging the toys out but this would incense me, I thought NW would be here til at least January. It hasn’t happened yet but if it does, what an absolute shitshow.
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 0:32:45 GMT 1
i guess its about, how much control he gets on players etc ? It isn’t it’s Warnock doing Warnock things. If there’s any truth to this, think fans will make it very clear from the off tomorrow who’s side they’re on. Behind Wagner, he’s the best manager we’ve had in the 40+ years I’ve been watching. A promotion + another great escape last season sees him with plenty of credit in the bank, certainly more than the new chairman. And all this about players not liking this, that and the other? There were plenty coming out last season after games saying how they were loving playing under Warnock.
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Post by Tiro on Sept 16, 2023 0:40:35 GMT 1
Replacement found, turned sour this quickly. From what I understand/know in the club, Warnock regrets not walking and is finding it too much / tiring. Whether that is the party line or the truth, I don’t know. But that’s what the senior pros have been told.
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Post by boooothy on Sept 16, 2023 0:51:46 GMT 1
I’ve never understood why Warnock agreed to stay
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Post by royrace on Sept 16, 2023 0:57:26 GMT 1
FFS absolute shambles this, we wondered why he agreed to stay on with this budget, now we know he didn't. Right in the shit now, relegation a real possibility... Again.
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Post by willo on Sept 16, 2023 1:03:11 GMT 1
FFS absolute shambles this, we wondered why he agreed to stay on with this budget, now we know he didn't. Right in the shit now, relegation a real possibility... Again. Another season of struggle now for sure. Club only has itself to blame, no excuses. Cheers Kev. 👍
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