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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 21:29:59 GMT 1
It was never going to last long with Warnock and his old school ways. He hates all the stats based decision making going on in todays game and prefers to rely on his eyes and experience to tell him if someone is fit enough to play or needs a rest. Giving the players 5 days off for example probably didn't go down well with those at the top but it looked like a wise call given how we played today. With the recent appointments and link up with that Driblab, it is very obvious the direction we're heading and it is at complete odds with what Warnock thinks we should be doing. Who's done the most in the game, Colin or a bunch of wetwipes brought in from conference standard football in a country where proper football doesn't register 🤷
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 16, 2023 21:30:44 GMT 1
I assume some of you have had jobs? And within those jobs, if there is a public falling out between the owner of the business and and an employee. How does it end? Nagle may have been unwise to criticise, but Warnock was totally out of order to spit back. I'm assuming you have employed individuals who are absolutely paramount to the performance of the business... You pay them their worth and you do NOTHING to piss them off! I disagree. It’s different in this situation anyway, but in the workplace you don’t really want an arrogant prima-donna knowing they can hold the company to ransom. We’re talking two blokes here, late 60’s and early 70’s who should be a bit more grown up about things. It’s hardly a Mourinho vs Abramovich situation. This is of course, assuming it is some sort of dispute between the pair of them. All will be revealed in less than 48h perhaps?
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Post by irverino on Sept 16, 2023 21:31:11 GMT 1
NW gets upset cause KN causes an unacceptable performance “unacceptable” I doubt that’s the reason he’s off myself and if it is it’s disappointing on the part of NW. as someone mentioned above. If Fotheringham had been in charge of the Norwich game with the same performance no one would have reacted. Yes. We’re all disappointed with the lack of striker but we didn’t and we’ve subsequently gone in to win 2 games with very impressive performances. Not the backs to wall, low possession stuff of last seasons run in. There’s some talent in this side and whilst I’ll be disappointed to see NW go I’ll be very interested to hear what the reason is. If this is all over a tweet then I’m sorry but that’s pretty “unacceptable” from NWWhoever is appointed will be the best evidence yet of how serious KN is prepared to take this club forward. If the tweet is the cause did it cause NW to quit of the Yank to push? Push, probably in 1st week of int. break when no one was around......Well, playing staff.
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Post by thomo on Sept 16, 2023 21:32:26 GMT 1
All I know is that it's going to take a bloody good manager to get a tune out of this squad like Warnock is. Anyone bang average and I think we'd soon see how shite we actually are.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 21:34:27 GMT 1
What annoys me is that our best 3 managers of the past 20 years have all resigned due to the club not supporting them. Wagner, Carlos & Warnock. Finding good managers is damned hard, as Bromby found out! When you get one in who fits the bill and everything clicks, we should fight tooth and nail to support them. Peter Jackson seems to be missing from your list. Why ?
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Post by waggers on Sept 16, 2023 21:34:53 GMT 1
I think the move away from Warmock needed to be well planned and not what looks to be frantic. There will be be a very drastic change in playing style and managerial methods shoved on the players before October has even come around. I think there must be more issues between Warnock and Nagle than just the Twitter spat to cause this. It looks the total opposite to frantic, seems more like the drama queens that usually spend their time watching reality TV are just trying to paint the picture they’d like to see. I don't think this has been prepared for is my point, it's likely they have already been looking for Warnock's successor since the summer but this certainly wasn't the plan. I think keeping Warmock with us for at least half the season was the plan, I'm sure once he leaves Neil will divulge more information.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 16, 2023 21:34:58 GMT 1
All I know is that it's going to take a bloody good manager to get a tune out of this squad like Warnock is. Anyone bang average and I think we'd soon how shite we actually are. I agree. If we can't find a striker what are the chances that we can find a proper manager?
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Post by paulmat on Sept 16, 2023 21:38:44 GMT 1
Couple of things from me.
For those saying this might have always been the plan, why replace Clem. Why bring in Serrant? The plan was for Warnock to do a year and get a new manager in the summer.
For those saying the tweet wasn't that bad, I think the key part was 'I believe the squad is better than this'. That's a dig at the manager. That and the awful transfer window, I don't blame Warnock for being annoyed.
Lastly this is a Warnock squad, we've cut players he didn't want, we've built it around players Warnock can get the best out of where others have failed. Letting him walk or pushing him out is suicide and it's all on Nagle if we go down. We got very lucky last season, to put us in this much risk of relegation once again is (to use Nagle's word) unacceptable.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 16, 2023 21:42:21 GMT 1
Quite a few people on here saying their sources have told them we have the replacement sorted. Obviously no names leaked but any indication as to whether its an appointment that will get the town fans excited? We are in Yorkshire. We don’t do excitement.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 16, 2023 21:44:07 GMT 1
All I know is that it's going to take a bloody good manager to get a tune out of this squad like Warnock is. Anyone bang average and I think we'd soon how shite we actually are. ? You thought that team out there today was shite? Not what I saw today. Whoever the manager is.
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Post by boooothy on Sept 16, 2023 21:45:44 GMT 1
Of the names mentioned considering our ownership and the type of player we own (try very hard with a good level of fitness) Jesse Marsch is an obvious choice. His wages will be very high, but so will Warnock’s. Ignore anything those Cards down the road have to say, deluded pricks who think they should be watching Brazil every week. If that card is the next manager, that's me done after 53 years. The Yank twat. He had some very strange yankisms that made him sound like a Div and nonsense about where the goals are located. That doesn’t make him a bad guy and he did alright at Leeds with some bang average players, it only went wrong after he left.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 21:49:33 GMT 1
What the eff does that mean? I have run a business for well over 30 years, and never can an employee be paramount to a business. Important, yes. But paramount, never. What if your, so called, paramount employee should fall under a bus? Would your business fail? Graveyards are full of indispensable cobblers. Thought your business was at the other end of the body? He's a milliner ?
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Post by boooothy on Sept 16, 2023 21:50:05 GMT 1
Couple of things from me. For those saying this might have always been the plan, why replace Clem. Why bring in Serrant? The plan was for Warnock to do a year and get a new manager in the summer. For those saying the tweet wasn't that bad, I think the key part was 'I believe the squad is better than this'. That's a dig at the manager. That and the awful transfer window, I don't blame Warnock for being annoyed. Lastly this is a Warnock squad, we've cut players he didn't want, we've built it around players Warnock can get the best out of where others have failed. Letting him walk or pushing him out is suicide and it's all on Nagle if we go down. We got very lucky last season, to put us in this much risk of relegation once again is (to use Nagle's word) unacceptable. Loads of decisions were made assuming Warnock was here for the year. We had Kyle Hudlin playing today with Jordan Rhodes out on loan. It’s retarded. Just silly old men not able to bite their tongue for the good of Huddersfield Town.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 16, 2023 21:54:00 GMT 1
Couple of things from me. For those saying this might have always been the plan, why replace Clem. Why bring in Serrant? The plan was for Warnock to do a year and get a new manager in the summer. For those saying the tweet wasn't that bad, I think the key part was 'I believe the squad is better than this'. That's a dig at the manager. That and the awful transfer window, I don't blame Warnock for being annoyed.Lastly this is a Warnock squad, we've cut players he didn't want, we've built it around players Warnock can get the best out of where others have failed. Letting him walk or pushing him out is suicide and it's all on Nagle if we go down. We got very lucky last season, to put us in this much risk of relegation once again is (to use Nagle's word) unacceptable. I don't agree with you on the bit I've bolded- it may have been a sly dig at Warnock, but the words used certainly aren't conclusive. Nagle described the performance as unacceptable, and he wasn't wrong. The bit about the squad being better than that is also not wrong. He would have been smarter to not say it in a tweet, but a man of Warnock's experience should have a thicker skin than he's shown if that's the reason he leaves.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 16, 2023 22:00:10 GMT 1
Nagle, I hope you know what you have done or what you are doing.
Unfortunately, I don’t think you have a clue on both counts.
Warnock being in charge has given me a real lift following this club.
Nagle, I couldn’t care less about you being involved with this football club.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 22:01:34 GMT 1
If that card is the next manager, that's me done after 53 years. The Yank twat. He had some very strange yankisms that made him sound like a Div and nonsense about where the goals are located. That doesn’t make him a bad guy and he did alright at Leeds with some bang average players, it only went wrong after he left. Apart from Brentford laying down in the last game and allowing them to stay up in his first season
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Post by royrace on Sept 16, 2023 22:02:40 GMT 1
Quite a few people on here saying their sources have told them we have the replacement sorted. Obviously no names leaked but any indication as to whether its an appointment that will get the town fans excited? Based on the fact that all of the appointments to date have been from the USL, a league vastly inferior to the championship, I'm not holding my breath. Also this mythical budget must now be into negative figures with the pay offs for the management team. Based on what I've seen so far from the leadership team in terms of transfer business and footballing decisions I've no reason to think it won't be a terrible appointment. Hope to be pleasantly surprised. If it's the Sacramento coach then I'm done!
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 22:03:13 GMT 1
Man U are still trying to recover from Ferguson's departure. We may be better? It is a possibility not a probability. If this is down to the new owner having a hissy fit over a bit of pride about his foot in mouth tweeting, he will deserve the fall out he will get. Are you genuinely comparing Warnock to Ferguson. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 How many promotions has Fergie got ?
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Post by paulmat on Sept 16, 2023 22:04:26 GMT 1
Couple of things from me. For those saying this might have always been the plan, why replace Clem. Why bring in Serrant? The plan was for Warnock to do a year and get a new manager in the summer. For those saying the tweet wasn't that bad, I think the key part was 'I believe the squad is better than this'. That's a dig at the manager. That and the awful transfer window, I don't blame Warnock for being annoyed.Lastly this is a Warnock squad, we've cut players he didn't want, we've built it around players Warnock can get the best out of where others have failed. Letting him walk or pushing him out is suicide and it's all on Nagle if we go down. We got very lucky last season, to put us in this much risk of relegation once again is (to use Nagle's word) unacceptable. I don't agree with you on the bit I've bolded- it may have been a sly dig at Warnock, but the words used certainly aren't conclusive. Nagle described the performance as unacceptable, and he wasn't wrong. The bit about the squad being better than that is also not wrong. He would have been smarter to not say it in a tweet, but a man of Warnock's experience should have a thicker skin than he's shown if that's the reason he leaves. Perhaps could be seen as a dig would be better phrasing. But it clearly annoyed Warnock with the additional context of the lack of backing. The fact of the matter is Nagle needs Warnock a hell of a lot more than Warnock needs Nagle. I imagine that may not be clear to him now but likely will be in a few weeks
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 22:05:00 GMT 1
I assume some of you have had jobs? And within those jobs, if there is a public falling out between the owner of the business and and an employee. How does it end? Nagle may have been unwise to criticise, but Warnock was totally out of order to spit back. Agree with this if I’m honest, if you’d just spent X amount of million pounds on a club it’s absolutely imperative that you are respected universally. I don’t think he should’ve said what he did but Warnock coming back at him like he did is unacceptable if you’re the owner. Essentially it’s Nagle’s fault. Not sure if it was a test or naive but here we are. Respect has to be earned. Colin has earned it, Nagle hasn't
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 22:07:26 GMT 1
Man U are still trying to recover from Ferguson's departure. We may be better? It is a possibility not a probability. If this is down to the new owner having a hissy fit over a bit of pride about his foot in mouth tweeting, he will deserve the fall out he will get. And if Warnock has quit over a tweet then he needs to grow up He doesn't need shit from some know-fuck-all. He owes Nagle nothing.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 16, 2023 22:08:11 GMT 1
Agree with this if I’m honest, if you’d just spent X amount of million pounds on a club it’s absolutely imperative that you are respected universally. I don’t think he should’ve said what he did but Warnock coming back at him like he did is unacceptable if you’re the owner. Essentially it’s Nagle’s fault. Not sure if it was a test or naive but here we are. Respect has to be earned. Colin has earned it, Nagle hasn't Nagle's a legend.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 16, 2023 22:08:39 GMT 1
Respect has to be earned. Colin has earned it, Nagle hasn't Nagle's a legend. You taking the piss?.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 16, 2023 22:09:53 GMT 1
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 16, 2023 22:10:22 GMT 1
No idea what that means. Is it a teenager thing?.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 22:10:27 GMT 1
Good job we didn’t lose today !
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Post by goodbet on Sept 16, 2023 22:11:04 GMT 1
Respect has to be earned. Colin has earned it, Nagle hasn't Nagle's a leg end. Edited for you
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Post by King Neil on Sept 16, 2023 22:11:16 GMT 1
I thought he said he was staying because of the love he received from the Huddersfield public!!
Now if he does leave..which looks very imminent I would say he's not a man of his word
Whatever fallout he's having with nagle should be irrelevant if his reason for being here is us!
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Post by goodbet on Sept 16, 2023 22:13:28 GMT 1
I thought he said he was staying because of the love he received from the Huddersfield public!! Now if he does leave..which looks very imminent I would say he's not a man of his word Whatever fallout he's having with nagle should be irrelevant if his reason for being here is us! If he does go, we don't know if he is walking or being pushed..
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Post by drewden on Sept 16, 2023 22:14:17 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves.
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