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Post by htafcokay on Sept 16, 2023 22:15:06 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. Because it was bad before Warnock turned up.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 22:16:42 GMT 1
Do you doff your cap to your boss ? Fuck that. When I had a boss, over 30 years ago, I gave him the respect he deserved, and he reciprocated. No doffing. And Colin has given Nagle the respect he deserves
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 16, 2023 22:16:48 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. Don’t you dare say this, Warnock is a legend, we’re doomed I tell you, doomed if he goes! And don’t get me started on the American geezer whose fault this is…. I’m so furious I could scream
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Post by runner76 on Sept 16, 2023 22:17:27 GMT 1
I thought he said he was staying because of the love he received from the Huddersfield public!! Now if he does leave..which looks very imminent I would say he's not a man of his word Whatever fallout he's having with nagle should be irrelevant if his reason for being here is us! If he does go, we don't know if he is walking or being pushed.. How do we know he’s not leaving based on an agreement he leaves if the club identify a suitable longer term target?
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Post by goodbet on Sept 16, 2023 22:17:36 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. For every good manager we get we seem to have to suffer a number of poor ones. Remember McDonald? If not just last season will do.
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Post by SuperMrTerrier on Sept 16, 2023 22:19:30 GMT 1
Warnock is not leaving over a tweet that was at worst naive. And at what point is he supposed to have fallen out with Nagle if Nagle has been travelling across the US without internet connection? How much contact, if any, will they even have? Jake Edwards is running the club as Chief Executive and Mark Cartwright is running football as Sporting Director. If there has been a falling out it seems more likely it would be with them.
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Post by irverino on Sept 16, 2023 22:19:51 GMT 1
Couple of things from me. For those saying this might have always been the plan, why replace Clem. Why bring in Serrant? The plan was for Warnock to do a year and get a new manager in the summer. For those saying the tweet wasn't that bad, I think the key part was 'I believe the squad is better than this'. That's a dig at the manager. That and the awful transfer window, I don't blame Warnock for being annoyed.Lastly this is a Warnock squad, we've cut players he didn't want, we've built it around players Warnock can get the best out of where others have failed. Letting him walk or pushing him out is suicide and it's all on Nagle if we go down. We got very lucky last season, to put us in this much risk of relegation once again is (to use Nagle's word) unacceptable. I don't agree with you on the bit I've bolded- it may have been a sly dig at Warnock, but the words used certainly aren't conclusive. Nagle described the performance as unacceptable, and he wasn't wrong. The bit about the squad being better than that is also not wrong. He would have been smarter to not say it in a tweet, but a man of Warnock's experience should have a thicker skin than he's shown if that's the reason he leaves. Perhaps NW did try privately to reply, he almost seems to have to set up the question at the end of WBA pre match PC to get his point across & making sure Kevin got the message.....More than just coincidence.
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Post by townrwe on Sept 16, 2023 22:20:08 GMT 1
What's the odds he will be back in charge on valentines day.
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Post by boooothy on Sept 16, 2023 22:20:56 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. Cause 2 different “managers” produced absolute dog shit with a squad better than we currently have.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 16, 2023 22:21:16 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. For every good manager we get we seem to have to suffer a number of poor ones.Remember McDonald? If not just last season will do. Since 2019 we've had Siewert, Schofield, Fotheringham and Cowley. All shite.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 16, 2023 22:21:43 GMT 1
Ol' sparky? Not the American influence I expected from Kevin... We've already had an empty chair....
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Post by goodbet on Sept 16, 2023 22:22:34 GMT 1
If he does go, we don't know if he is walking or being pushed.. How do we know he’s not leaving based on an agreement he leaves if the club identify a suitable longer term target? I have just pointed out that we don't know why he is apparently leaving. It is possible that an agreement is in place, but I would not have thought the club would allow the speculation to run riot if this was the case. So if an agreement is in place we have messed up once again.
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Post by drewden on Sept 16, 2023 22:24:11 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. Cause 2 different “managers” produced absolute dog shit with a squad better than we currently have. That was the past, the future has not arrived yet.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 16, 2023 22:33:39 GMT 1
Agree with this if I’m honest, if you’d just spent X amount of million pounds on a club it’s absolutely imperative that you are respected universally. I don’t think he should’ve said what he did but Warnock coming back at him like he did is unacceptable if you’re the owner. Essentially it’s Nagle’s fault. Not sure if it was a test or naive but here we are. Respect has to be earned. Colin has earned it, Nagle hasn't He’s owns the club, how is that not worthy of respect? And I’m talking about his employees respecting him, not people who spend too much time on the internet.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 16, 2023 22:36:28 GMT 1
Respect has to be earned. Colin has earned it, Nagle hasn't He’s owns the club, how is that not worthy of respect? And I’m talking about his employees respecting him, not people who spend too much time on the internet. I have a bad feeling about this whole Nagle thing. I hope I am wrong.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 22:37:33 GMT 1
Respect has to be earned. Colin has earned it, Nagle hasn't He’s owns the club, how is that not worthy of respect? And I’m talking about his employees respecting him, not people who spend too much time on the internet. Wow, he owns the club. Why is that worthy of respect? Just cos he's got money ?
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 16, 2023 22:39:38 GMT 1
He’s owns the club, how is that not worthy of respect? And I’m talking about his employees respecting him, not people who spend too much time on the internet. Wow, he owns the club. Why is that worthy of respect? Just cos he's got money ? Not sure what to say. Do you not respect your boss?
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 22:45:09 GMT 1
Wow, he owns the club. Why is that worthy of respect? Just cos he's got money ? Not sure what to say. Do you not respect your boss? I don't even know who he is. I wouldn't know him if he was stood next to me.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 16, 2023 22:51:56 GMT 1
Respect has to be earned. Colin has earned it, Nagle hasn't He’s owns the club, how is that not worthy of respect? And I’m talking about his employees respecting him, not people who spend too much time on the internet. You get good bosses and you get poor bosses. You try to give your boss the benefit of the doubt for a while, but it does not last forever. Dean was a good owner for years and like I said earlier today after he became ill his decision making became poor to say the least. Bosses have to respect the workers as well, if the boss starts tweeting about his workers would any respect the boss may have earned last. I suppose we live in a world where multimillionaires seem to expect everything because they have some money, like the one who said very recently they wanted unemployment to rise to 50% because the workers have got above themselves. So never think that a boss or a multimillionaire deserve unconditional respect.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 16, 2023 22:52:23 GMT 1
Not sure what to say. Do you not respect your boss? I don't even know who he is. I wouldn't know him if he was stood next to me. Fair enough! I think there’s clearly some sort of ego war gone on, and there is only one party with any actual power, so it looks like we’ll be getting a new manager.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 16, 2023 23:08:36 GMT 1
I don't even know who he is. I wouldn't know him if he was stood next to me. Fair enough! I think there’s clearly some sort of ego war gone on, and there is only one party with any actual power, so it looks like we’ll be getting a new manager. As long as the party with the power accepts responsibility when we're relegated afterwards.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 16, 2023 23:09:28 GMT 1
Not sure what Me V Gin Ankle did that upset Colin.
Said he expected better that a 4-0 home loss vs Norwich? We're expected to believe that he's thrown his toys out of the pram over something that trivial?
I don't know what has happened but if he's leaving over a spat with the owner then I would hope it took more than that.
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Post by royrace on Sept 16, 2023 23:10:11 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. Sorry but anyone who knows football knows that Warnock is getting more from this squad than probably 99 percent of other managers. To think a new manager will do better is cloud cuckoo land. It will be worse and possibly end in relegation unless they chuck a load of money at it in Jan on top of the money they spunk away paying off coaching staff.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 16, 2023 23:11:05 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. Sorry but anyone who knows football knows that Warnock is getting more from this squad than probably 99 percent of other managers. To think a new manager will do better is cloud cuckoo land. It will be worse and possibly end in relegation unless they chuck a load of money at it in Jan on top of the money they spunk away paying off coaching staff. Close the thread, great post.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 16, 2023 23:18:17 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. Sorry but anyone who knows football knows that Warnock is getting more from this squad than probably 99 percent of other managers. To think a new manager will do better is cloud cuckoo land. It will be worse and possibly end in relegation unless they chuck a load of money at it in Jan on top of the money they spunk away paying off coaching staff. What do you or any of the other fans who have watched not just town, but English football for years and years?! How dare you question the guy who doesn't know the English game. the people with the money to buy a team know best.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 16, 2023 23:19:28 GMT 1
Fair enough! I think there’s clearly some sort of ego war gone on, and there is only one party with any actual power, so it looks like we’ll be getting a new manager. As long as the party with the power accepts responsibility when we're relegated afterwards. The buck always stops with the person in ultimate control.
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Post by rab030 on Sept 16, 2023 23:22:11 GMT 1
NW did not come back last season because he loves HTAFC but simply because he got paid £100k per game. He did a great job and you could argue he deserved the money. He would still have got paid if we had been relegated and would have gone back home to Cornwall without a second thought for what we all think. He agreed to stay ‘another season’ not because of his unconditional love for the Town fans but because KN agreed to pay him what he wanted. The ‘spat’ might (albeit I doubt it) have changed the timeframe but he was never going to stay. I’m grateful for the job he did last season but he’s not the future and we need to move on.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 16, 2023 23:27:42 GMT 1
A bit of positiveness, who knows a different manager might do well, and surprise a lot on here. Why are people on here assuming it is going to be bad if Warnock leaves. Because it was bad before Warnock turned up. I would hope that whoever takes over is better than Schofield or Buzz. Law of averages suggests they will be.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 16, 2023 23:27:57 GMT 1
Whatever has happened, we have trouble ahead.
I can't see any new manager that would come to Town getting a decent tune out of our squad.
I was confident with NW, even after the Norwich game.
He goes and we could be fucked.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 16, 2023 23:34:37 GMT 1
Because it was bad before Warnock turned up. I would hope that whoever takes over is better than Schofield or Buzz. Law of averages suggests they will be. The law of averages also suggest that the next person to takeover will be worse than Warnock.
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