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Post by htafcjack on Sept 17, 2023 11:09:11 GMT 1
Why? We’ve been desperate to get relegated since we came into the Championship. Siewart, Buzz, and a long long list of positions with no players, it’s been shite Apart from the year we got to the play off final of course
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Post by goodbet on Sept 17, 2023 11:10:10 GMT 1
And what is he actually doing then to cause the club to want him to leave? Upto both parties to say why he might be leaving , probably “ by mutual agreement “ with “ been harder than I thought” thrown in. My info is confidential I won’t be sharing it. You know something and you won't tell us. Does that make you feel big?
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 17, 2023 11:10:48 GMT 1
This has nothing to do with the press and twitter fall out and everything to do with Warnocks conduct is my info. A post from htafcokay incoming in 5..4…3…2..1 What are you on about?
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 17, 2023 11:10:50 GMT 1
Did you not read “ confidential” , I posted there were” issues” over a month ago as did Maynardblue, the current situation is not surprising . My point is you and others like you who clearly know what's going on seem to take great delight in telling us that you know everything without actually telling us anything. You should take a leaf out of the 'great' Ronan Keating's book I said there were “issues” , I certainly aren’t going into what they are because I’ve only heard one side , so I’ve told you everything, I’ve said he would be going, we will see on Monday, apologies didn’t realise I needed your approval , would you like to proof read my future posts, by the way it’s a forum , usually based on rumour, gossip etc , and with what good reason would I be interested in the “ great” Ronan Keatings book apart from the chapter on “ Shagging Dancers”.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 17, 2023 11:11:23 GMT 1
The buck always stops with the person in ultimate control. Apologies for arguing. Guinness and red wine fever 🤒 Don’t worry, I was similar 🍻 😆
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 17, 2023 11:12:54 GMT 1
There are no “ thinly veiled accusations” , there are “ issues”, and have been for a good couple of months, the twitter spat is of little consequence in the grand scheme. Wait till Monday I’ve hinted what is likely to happen, if you don’t agree with me , don’t read it , and in reality I’ve released very little of what I have been told So based on very little information we are to believe you. Up to you, not bothered.
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Post by space hardware on Sept 17, 2023 11:15:14 GMT 1
The buck always stops with the person in ultimate control. Apologies for arguing. Guinness and red wine fever 🤒 Ooooooof, that sounds gout-tastic 😁
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 17, 2023 11:16:36 GMT 1
Does anyone know if tomorrow’s press conference is broadcast live? And if so, how can we access it?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 17, 2023 11:16:54 GMT 1
I’m not overly fussed what happens Monday. If Warnock stays, great, if he goes, so be it. We’ve got a decent squad of players now that ‘should’ see us as a mid table team, no matter who is in charge. Rudoni and Wiles look a great pairing. Helik and Pearson doing a job. Granted we are light up front but if Koroma and Thomas can continue putting in performance then goals will follow. Managers and players come and go. It’s about the bigger picture. Where we are as a club. I think we are ok. We don’t have financial clout but we aren’t in danger of going bust and I’m looking forward to the next game, which can’t be said for a lot of clubs.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 17, 2023 11:22:49 GMT 1
Why? We’ve been desperate to get relegated since we came into the Championship. Siewart, Buzz, and a long long list of positions with no players, it’s been shite Apart from the year we got to the play off final of course 2 Play off Finals.
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Post by araucaria on Sept 17, 2023 11:26:00 GMT 1
Do we know yet why Lou Macari was sacked and never managed a team again? Edit: he's younger than Neil by 6 months. Club (lots of the fans agreed) sacked Macari after reaching playoffs with a poor squad because they wanted better 'football' so appointed Wadsworth and got related It's been happening for a while! It's happened time and again, hasn't it? The law of averages owes us a decent replacement for Neil but I'm not holding my breath. The club said that Lou had not done well enough with what they claimed was a really good squad. David Taylor said that he'd voted to keep him but was out-voted by the other directors. Lou had won three promotions up to that point, was desperately unlucky not to have pulled off a great escape for us in 2000-01 (after a start of 8 points from 19 games) and yet never managed again. There had to be more to his sacking than not playing very good football.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 17, 2023 11:26:26 GMT 1
I’m not overly fussed what happens Monday. If Warnock stays, great, if he goes, so be it. We’ve got a decent squad of players now that ‘should’ see us as a mid table team, no matter who is in charge.Rudoni and Wiles look a great pairing. Helik and Pearson doing a job. Granted we are light up front but if Koroma and Thomas can continue putting in performance then goals will follow. Managers and players come and go. It’s about the bigger picture. Where we are as a club. I think we are ok. We don’t have financial clout but we aren’t in danger of going bust and I’m looking forward to the next game, which can’t be said for a lot of clubs. I can think of a few who would take us down.
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Post by willo on Sept 17, 2023 11:30:47 GMT 1
And what is he actually doing then to cause the club to want him to leave? Upto both parties to say why he might be leaving , probably “ by mutual agreement “ with “ been harder than I thought” thrown in. My info is confidential I won’t be sharing it. What a surprise!
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Post by DuffMan on Sept 17, 2023 11:34:29 GMT 1
My point is you and others like you who clearly know what's going on seem to take great delight in telling us that you know everything without actually telling us anything. You should take a leaf out of the 'great' Ronan Keating's book I said there were “issues” , I certainly aren’t going into what they are because I’ve only heard one side , so I’ve told you everything, I’ve said he would be going, we will see on Monday, apologies didn’t realise I needed your approval , would you like to proof read my future posts, by the way it’s a forum , usually based on rumour, gossip etc , and with what good reason would I be interested in the “ great” Ronan Keatings book apart from the chapter on “ Shagging Dancers”. You say it best… 🎶
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Post by araucaria on Sept 17, 2023 11:35:04 GMT 1
I’m not overly fussed what happens Monday. If Warnock stays, great, if he goes, so be it. We’ve got a decent squad of players now that ‘should’ see us as a mid table team, no matter who is in charge. Rudoni and Wiles look a great pairing. Helik and Pearson doing a job. Granted we are light up front but if Koroma and Thomas can continue putting in performance then goals will follow. Managers and players come and go. It’s about the bigger picture. Where we are as a club. I think we are ok. We don’t have financial clout but we aren’t in danger of going bust and I’m looking forward to the next game, which can’t be said for a lot of clubs. You could have written the same sort of thing several times in the past, when it actually really did matter who we put in charge.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 17, 2023 11:35:29 GMT 1
Nagle has also gone very quiet on twitter. yep shame it didn't happen earlier
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Post by willo on Sept 17, 2023 11:38:56 GMT 1
I’m not overly fussed what happens Monday. If Warnock stays, great, if he goes, so be it. We’ve got a decent squad of players now that ‘should’ see us as a mid table team, no matter who is in charge.Rudoni and Wiles look a great pairing. Helik and Pearson doing a job. Granted we are light up front but if Koroma and Thomas can continue putting in performance then goals will follow. Managers and players come and go. It’s about the bigger picture. Where we are as a club. I think we are ok. We don’t have financial clout but we aren’t in danger of going bust and I’m looking forward to the next game, which can’t be said for a lot of clubs. I can think of a few who would take us down. Let’s not forget. Warnock inherited Fotheringham’s team and we were going down. He managed another great escape and has gone into another season with largely the same set of players and we’ve done well. Whoever (possibly) comes in next will have the same set of players. Warnock has shown HE can get a tune out of them when Fotheringham couldn’t, it remains to be seen whether the next guy in can. It’s definitely not nailed on he will.
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Post by desertstorm on Sept 17, 2023 11:38:57 GMT 1
I do wonder how many prospective signings fell through due to ‘third parties’ who those people were and if they had any links to any members of our staff. Seems bizarre, doesn’t it.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 17, 2023 11:42:18 GMT 1
Ive no idea what happened
Although I do know one thing. If I were a manager and got undermined by the owner on a public forum after one bad game (and after may really good ones), I'd be well pissed off.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 17, 2023 11:44:28 GMT 1
A post from htafcokay incoming in 5..4…3…2..1 What are you on about? I’m just referring to the fact that you seem to pick up on any negative comments relating to NW.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 17, 2023 11:47:24 GMT 1
According to the bedwetters there’s not a single manager attainable by us who is capable of getting a tune out of this bunch of players other than NW. Let’s not forget, they’ve: 1. Had ~top 6 form at the end of the season and has been strengthened by returners from injury and new signings (whilst the departures of which there have been many were largely fringe players who hadn’t appeared for us during the majority of this run) 2. Gone toe to toe with Leicester bar a goalkeeping error and won our last 2 games very comfortably Of course, he’s done a remarkable job but I’m not sure you can categorically say that Schofield/Fotheringham form is the level of the players NOR that all positive results are 100% down to NW I’m as disappointed as the next man if NW goes. He’s clearly got the players bought in but the key now is who we go for. A Schofield/Fotheringham/Sacramento Manager esque appointment will cause a riot but as much as said bedwetters love to talk us down, I think there’ll be plenty of managers keen to take on the mighty Terriers IF!! KN is willing to INVEST. As I said yesterday this will be the best signal yet of intentions. This was going to happen by end of season anyway so ultimately we’ve just got to address that challenge of replacing NW a bit sooner by the looks of it. No one is saying that there isn't a manager out there who can get a tune out of the players. We have just seen that we have employed two managers that couldn't. We couldn't find a striker but we can find a manager? Maybe we can find one who will take what he is given and roll over. We had top 6 form because we got Warnock in. Get another and we could go back to getting Schofield or Buzz results depending who we bring in. Your use of the term bedwetters does not help you to look well reasoned. We only lost 1-0 to Leicester but we never looked like matching them did we. You would be disappointed if NW left but you appear to be a bigger fan of the owner than the club. NW was not a long term appointment but bringing in another manager now when he can't bring in any players appears to be a poor time for the change. Again I hear that we are going to invest at the end of the season, I haven't see this anywhere so have I missed the announcement or are people trying to show support the new owner above the club? You’re accusing me of being a bigger fan of the owner. No idea where this comes from based on what I said. I’ve stated my disappointment in NW leaving but I have no control over it and have said the next appointment is the biggest statement. In short I’m not writing off the new owners after 3 months of taking on a Sh1tshow again like the bedwetters have without so much as considering what the alternative would have been. Call them bedwetters or whatever you want. The reaction of some is embarrassing once again. The same group who on 1st September had written us off as a side that couldn’t possibly compete yet find another angle of attack when 2 weeks later we’ve just taken 6 out of 6 points. Your post is full of fear. It’s like the news. This is the worst that can happen so let’s all cr@p ourselves. We don’t even know the reason for NW leaving as yet. To reiterate. I’m gutted about NW going but my feelings towards the owner on the subject will be based on facts rather than panic and will remain optimistic that we’re not such a basket case that can’t attract another good appointment.
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 17, 2023 11:47:28 GMT 1
I’m just referring to the fact that you seem to pick up on any negative comments relating to NW. Whatever. Nagle is a legend.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 17, 2023 11:50:00 GMT 1
My point is you and others like you who clearly know what's going on seem to take great delight in telling us that you know everything without actually telling us anything. You should take a leaf out of the 'great' Ronan Keating's book I said there were “issues” , I certainly aren’t going into what they are because I’ve only heard one side , so I’ve told you everything, I’ve said he would be going, we will see on Monday, apologies didn’t realise I needed your approval , would you like to proof read my future posts, by the way it’s a forum , usually based on rumour, gossip etc , and with what good reason would I be interested in the “ great” Ronan Keatings book apart from the chapter on “ Shagging Dancers”. This one always makes me laugh, you post what you like mate and if I feel the urge to respond I will do. Which I did and then you responded. Perfect, like you say it's a forum, all about opinions
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Post by Lovechops on Sept 17, 2023 11:52:53 GMT 1
Why? We’ve been desperate to get relegated since we came into the Championship. Siewart, Buzz, and a long long list of positions with no players, it’s been shite If the club was so desperate to be relegated then they’ve had plenty of opportunities to do so but here we are still a championship team!! So as I said earlier a stupid statement!!
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Post by rockwall on Sept 17, 2023 11:59:13 GMT 1
Upto both parties to say why he might be leaving , probably “ by mutual agreement “ with “ been harder than I thought” thrown in. My info is confidential I won’t be sharing it. In that case I'd suggest sharing it on here isn't exactly fair. Chucking thinly veiled accusations around with zero substance but enough to potentially damage someone's reputation isn't on imo. I only know what I've seen which is: 1. Chairman seemingly not back the manager in the way he or any of us expected. 2. Chairman put out a very ill advised tweet basically saying the squad should be doing better, in other words a direct criticism of the coach. 3. Warnock delivering a very premeditated dig at the chairman and leadership team showing be was very unhappy about transfer dealings, broken promises and the public criticism. 4. Warnock is now leaving despite the fact he generally seems to be loving life and the team is doing well. Sometimes it's just the obvious and simple reasons. I assumed and hoped Nagle would swallow his pride and take it on the chin for the good of the club. Many wouldn't though. Is it just that he won't be criticised and humiliated like that in public? Maybe his ego won't allow it and let's face it he can afford to have a big ego. In his world he just goes and gets a replacement. As we know football isn't that simple. You are asking a very reliable poster to divulge confidential things. Why would they do that? At least they have given us some insight. But you seem to know what happened judging by your post. You seem 100% certain that it is all Nagels doing and not Neil's. Please share who told you this ......
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Post by Lovechops on Sept 17, 2023 11:59:49 GMT 1
Not sure why ppl are so overreacting on the KN tweet I didn’t read it as he was criticising NW I read it like the hundred other tweets that day that the players made too many mistakes and played poor! He also added another tweet straight after that I think fans either didn’t see or chose not to see that emphasised that!!!
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 17, 2023 12:03:13 GMT 1
Upto both parties to say why he might be leaving , probably “ by mutual agreement “ with “ been harder than I thought” thrown in. My info is confidential I won’t be sharing it. What a surprise! What do you expect ?
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Post by willo on Sept 17, 2023 12:04:54 GMT 1
Ive no idea what happened Although I do know one thing. If I were a manager and got undermined by the owner on a public forum after one bad game (and after may really good ones), I'd be well pissed off. It may be dressed up in the press conference that the travelling between Cornwall and West Yorkshire is taking its toll (and I believe that will be part of any message as to why he’s possibly leaving) but what you’ve posted has to be a big part as to any reason he’s maybe going and I expect to hear it. One thing NW doesn’t do is mince his words, never has in his interviews, and I don’t expect tomorrow to be any different. Constructive one to one criticism is one thing but a volley across the bows on social media is not the way and KN should have been warned to expect a response.
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 17, 2023 12:06:03 GMT 1
I couldn’t care less what Warnock may or may not have done. He has restored some pride back in to our Club and Team. As well as retaining Championship status. I am staggered that anybody can or could have anything other than the upmost thanks and appreciation for what this Man has achieved in such a short space of time. But you aren’t investing millions of your own money.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 17, 2023 12:06:27 GMT 1
Not sure why ppl are so overreacting on the KN tweet I didn’t read it as he was criticising NW I read it like the hundred other tweets that day that the players made too many mistakes and played poor! He also added another tweet straight after that I think fans either didn’t see or chose not to see that emphasised that!!! Spot on. But did you know Warnock is a messiah who can do no wrong?
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