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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Sept 18, 2023 19:11:49 GMT 1
Warnock staying the season would have almost guaranteed our safety. If the new man is no better then I think we'll be in trouble. We have a small squad with very limited ability. NW could get the best out of them. Will the next man be as good a man manager and be able to do the same? Only time will tell. We'll probably be looking for another manager by the summer anyway as they don't survive long in the Championship
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 18, 2023 19:18:39 GMT 1
Warnock staying the season would have almost guaranteed our safety. If the new man is no better then I think we'll be in trouble. We have a small squad with very limited ability. NW could get the best out of them. Will the next man be as good a man manager and be able to do the same? Only time will tell. We'll probably be looking for another manager by the summer anyway as they don't survive long in the Championship That’s the spirit!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 18, 2023 19:23:29 GMT 1
I can’t believe you’d allow a manager to clear out the back room team, hire his own back room team for a few weeks, let him take preseason (which is crucial) and also the whole transfer window only to let him go 5 games in Can’t believe that was the plan unless .., someone we thought wasn’t possible/ out of reach a few weeks ago not is available It clearly wasn't. Also his lack of involvement in the selection shows something has gone on. You've got one of the most experienced and successful managers in the history of this league yet you don't use him even slightly in your process to select the next manager. Hmmm yeah of course everything is hunky dory
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Post by runner76 on Sept 18, 2023 19:23:33 GMT 1
Genuinely dont understand why people are so pissed off. The fact is NW is a legend but this was always temporary until they found someone else. Now they say they have and he will be appointed by the end of the week. SO all that is happening is what they said would happen. NW seemed a bit disappointed because he was enjoying it. However when they think they found the right person they can’t ask them to wait a few months until there’s a run of bad results. Would people have preferred they didn’t start looking until next May when NW walks back out of the door? All we would hear then is “they knew he was leaving for a year”. Yup. What if the next manager gets a tune out of the squad, then gets more firepower in January? Whose not to say we could comfortably avoid relegation?…..
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Post by rickrast on Sept 18, 2023 19:32:58 GMT 1
1 more year mi Lord 1 more year!!!! Hope every one is OK.. I haven't posted for a very long time as I, m in exile now on the east coast so don't get the chance to go to games no more... Although I do watch most on the T.V....any way all the best and I wish you well... Up the Town.. TTID... Well, you've got a quarter of your year, jimmy....but his premature abdication is bringing it to an end!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 19:51:23 GMT 1
I can’t believe you’d allow a manager to clear out the back room team, hire his own back room team for a few weeks, let him take preseason (which is crucial) and also the whole transfer window only to let him go 5 games in Can’t believe that was the plan unless .., someone we thought wasn’t possible/ out of reach a few weeks ago not is available It clearly wasn't. Also his lack of involvement in the selection shows something has gone on. You've got one of the most experienced and successful managers in the history of this league yet you don't use him even slightly in your process to select the next manager. Hmmm yeah of course everything is hunky dory The owner and the guys he has brought in, hopefully, have a vision for how they want to rebuild the club. They will have their own ideas of the type of manager they want. Warnock is a great manager but he either likes you or he doesn’t, and his reasons may not be relevant as far as the club’s future is concerned. There is a new management team in place and they have to take the credit or flak for this decision, so they have to make it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 19:55:42 GMT 1
Good press conference. Warnock obviously sad to go but this is what he signed up for. Sooner than he or the fans thought but it is still what the club said would happen. Neil is possibly a double edged sword for the board. He does a very good job but he ploughs his own furrow. The new bloke will, I assume, be much more integrated with the long term plans, including the academy. There is no drama here, just sad to see him go. He has done a cracking job and he is really interesting to listen to. He also clearly loves being here. He will be missed. Onward we go. Agree with this but the timing is bad We need stability more than anything at the moment , I’d have been well happy with Warnock till January, some mid table security and then take a punt Highly risky this move right now It may be Nagle is impatient or the ideal candidate became available. Let’s just hope it works out.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 18, 2023 19:59:27 GMT 1
You mean like we did after Lee Clark(e) after that Sheff Utd game? After he’d secured our place in the history books with an (almost unbroken) unbeaten run? The game we lost to Sheffield United ? 🤔 might have been a draw actually?
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Sept 18, 2023 20:01:04 GMT 1
Sad day - Warnock has done a great job and brought a good feeling back at the club - few folk could have done that.
Felt for him watching the PC - he is a proud man, and you can tell it has hurt him. Need to make sure we give him a great send off on Wednesday night. A true club legend.
Looking forward, this is a huge moment for the club - the new manager appointment has to be right. Jake Edwards speaks very well tbf. Time will tell if they make the right call. Fingers crossed.
UTT
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 18, 2023 20:01:37 GMT 1
The game we lost to Sheffield United ? 🤔 might have been a draw actually? It wasn't. It was our 3rd loss in 50 games. And despite this, hardly anyone was bothered that he'd been sacked because it was time for him to go. Grayson would get far more praise for completing the job if he wasn't an ex Leeds player and manager.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 18, 2023 20:05:43 GMT 1
🤔 might have been a draw actually? It wasn't. It was our 3rd loss in 50 games. And despite this, hardly anyone was bothered that he'd been sacked because it was time for him to go. Grayson would get far more praise for completing the job if he wasn't an ex Leeds player and manager. That was my point. Loads of Town fans were OK with that decision, but loads from other clubs were bemused. He’d done OK but had been backed to the hilt and fallen short.
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Sept 18, 2023 20:06:24 GMT 1
The game we lost to Sheffield United ? 🤔 might have been a draw actually? lost 1-0 if I remember the current Barnsley gaffer scored, weird line up from LC dropping Bennett randomly and Kallum Higgingbotham despite a pretty solid debut for no real reason..he gave the bingo machine one last spin before we potter him 😂🤣
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 18, 2023 20:17:21 GMT 1
Aye, the famed bingo machine for team selection.
He seemed OK as a human being, but we were probably the highlight of his managerial career.
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Post by thrice on Sept 18, 2023 20:17:55 GMT 1
Sounds like a perfectly amicable parting of ways with mission accomplished by both parties.
Warnock leaves with his reputation further enhanced & legendary status firmly cemented.
And the new regime have evidently found their man to take us on from here.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 18, 2023 20:18:59 GMT 1
Maybe the failure to lure our transfer targets to play under Warnock has played a part in accelerating his successor?
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Post by htafcokay on Sept 18, 2023 20:19:41 GMT 1
Aye, the famed bingo machine for team selection. He seemed OK as a human being, but we were probably the highlight of his managerial career. No probably about it. Clark himself admitted to me in a conversation four years ago that as much as he's tried to replicate what he did here, he's never managed to do it anywhere else.
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Post by ritchie on Sept 18, 2023 20:26:08 GMT 1
Will Leon crawl out of Neil's arse or will he be going with him?
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Post by tvor on Sept 18, 2023 20:28:05 GMT 1
Genuinely sad to see him go and can’t help but think that the ill-timed tweet from the Chairman following the Norwich game and Warnock’s understandable response speeded things up. Whoever comes in next has big shoes to fill. Warnock was a huge personality with the experience and track record to back things up. Kev may surprise us with a decent successor but I hope he doesn’t repeat the mistake of criticising the team on Twitter (x) or any other socials.
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Post by sheps on Sept 18, 2023 20:28:30 GMT 1
Maybe the failure to lure our transfer targets to play under Warnock has played a part in accelerating his successor? Maybe the acceleration of his successor was why we failed to get Warnocks targets... If we know we had a sniff of who ever this next manager is within two weeks of the window shutting, if the WBA rumours are correct, then maybe we pulled the plug on some of Warnocks target,
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Post by k1man999 on Sept 18, 2023 20:30:28 GMT 1
Sounds like a perfectly amicable parting of ways with mission accomplished by both parties. Warnock leaves with his reputation further enhanced & legendary status firmly cemented. And the new regime have evidently found their man to take us on from here. Who says it's a man
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Post by goodbet on Sept 18, 2023 20:32:31 GMT 1
Genuinely dont understand why people are so pissed off. The fact is NW is a legend but this was always temporary until they found someone else. Now they say they have and he will be appointed by the end of the week. SO all that is happening is what they said would happen. NW seemed a bit disappointed because he was enjoying it. However when they think they found the right person they can’t ask them to wait a few months until there’s a run of bad results. Would people have preferred they didn’t start looking until next May when NW walks back out of the door? All we would hear then is “they knew he was leaving for a year”. They think that Bromby may still be advising the board. Bring back Buzz
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Post by rockwall on Sept 18, 2023 20:36:35 GMT 1
🤔 might have been a draw actually? lost 1-0 if I remember the current Barnsley gaffer scored, weird line up from LC dropping Bennett randomly and Kallum Higgingbotham despite a pretty solid debut for no real reason..he gave the bingo machine one last spin before we potter him 😂🤣 Neill Collins scored.
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Post by JG Mellor on Sept 18, 2023 20:39:19 GMT 1
Sounds like a perfectly amicable parting of ways with mission accomplished by both parties. Warnock leaves with his reputation further enhanced & legendary status firmly cemented. And the new regime have evidently found their man to take us on from here. You think Warnock is happy with that? Not amicable at all. He is absolutely pissed off with this. Read the room
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Post by kayeb222 on Sept 18, 2023 20:42:45 GMT 1
Out of interest, if for instance we brought in someone like Potter who i think most fans would say would be an amazing appointment. If Potter then struggles does Nagle still get the beating you're suggesting? Harry Potter? Well if he can't work his magic then nobody can!!😂
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Post by thrice on Sept 18, 2023 20:49:11 GMT 1
Sounds like a perfectly amicable parting of ways with mission accomplished by both parties. Warnock leaves with his reputation further enhanced & legendary status firmly cemented. And the new regime have evidently found their man to take us on from here. You think Warnock is happy with that? Not amicable at all. He is absolutely pissed off with this. Read the room Just listen to the fella himself in the presser. If he was absolutely pissed off he wouldn't be sat there saying otherwise.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 18, 2023 20:51:59 GMT 1
Sounds like a perfectly amicable parting of ways with mission accomplished by both parties. Warnock leaves with his reputation further enhanced & legendary status firmly cemented. And the new regime have evidently found their man to take us on from here. You think Warnock is happy with that? Not amicable at all. He is absolutely pissed off with this. Read the room Warnock never keeps his thoughts to himself for long so I'm sure we'll hear his take on events on Talksport etc in the next few weeks
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Post by ritchie on Sept 18, 2023 20:55:32 GMT 1
It doesnt make much sense looking at it.. especially when we are still likely favourites to go down. It will have to be a hell of an appointment for me to say "yeah that makes sense" (I wouldnt take Rooney over Warnock's left bollock)
As much as they deny it I can't help feel that Nagle may have "struck" quicker than we maybe planned after having his authority questioned. I really hope that's not the case; but getting rid of the best championship manager in the business without an urgent need to is a huge gamble. I'm not sure I see it as "NW has whethered us through the transition/storm" just yet either....long long way to go yet and cant help feel that after recent troubles a new man should have only come in when we looked "safe" (not necessarily mathmatically, but comfortable in the league). Had we lost Saturday things would look very gloomy.
Also found it very odd Warnock (if true) had no knowledge/discussion of his succesor. I dont think they should have let him choose, or even have much say, but it's odd to not at least consult him - even if you fully expect to ignore his opinion...
In saying that, as much as I'm being critical of it, at least the club are being bold and sticking their neck out. For too long we've just bumbled along as a short-termist, re-active rather than pro-active club. Maybe we should give them some credit in that regard.. The easy option was keeping Warnock.
Be some bitten arses in May if we go down. Even more so if it's in place of a NW team..
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Post by incognito on Sept 18, 2023 21:11:10 GMT 1
Sad day - Warnock has done a great job and brought a good feeling back at the club - few folk could have done that. Felt for him watching the PC - he is a proud man, and you can tell it has hurt him. Need to make sure we give him a great send off on Wednesday night. A true club legend. Looking forward, this is a huge moment for the club - the new manager appointment has to be right. Jake Edwards speaks very well tbf. Time will tell if they make the right call. Fingers crossed. UTT I liked Warnock's little wink to Katherine Hannah when she reminded Edwards about his comments in the Summer about the need for continuity / stability I also thought Edwards came out of it pretty well - not only in the way he handled a tricky situation, but also the genuinely positive endorsement he received from NW. Hopefully he can continue to establish himself as the figurehead moving forward.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 18, 2023 21:20:40 GMT 1
The game we lost to Sheffield United ? 🤔 might have been a draw actually? We lost 1-0
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 18, 2023 21:23:19 GMT 1
Good press conference. Warnock obviously sad to go but this is what he signed up for. Sooner than he or the fans thought but it is still what the club said would happen. Neil is possibly a double edged sword for the board. He does a very good job but he ploughs his own furrow. The new bloke will, I assume, be much more integrated with the long term plans, including the academy. There is no drama here, just sad to see him go. He has done a cracking job and he is really interesting to listen to. He also clearly loves being here. He will be missed. Onward we go. I'm sorry Blues, but apart from you praising Warnock, you're completely wrong. And judging by your history of posting you seem to agree with whatever a chairman/board instigates. Its almost sycophant at times. Its taken a few games but you can see what NW wants from this squad and like the back end of last season, the players are now understanding and responding. The decision to get rid of him this early into the season not only reeks of naivety but makes us as a club look amateur at best. Stability was key this season, not a time for messing about with new a new train set and getting upset over who has said what and when. Yes, get rid in Jan/Feb if we are more or less safe but this is unbelievably stupid. This season should've been about mid table mediocrity and without drama. The ship has finally been steadied........ why rock the boat
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