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Post by terrierforever on Sept 18, 2023 17:24:23 GMT 1
Full press conference here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 17:25:13 GMT 1
Good press conference. Warnock obviously sad to go but this is what he signed up for. Sooner than he or the fans thought but it is still what the club said would happen.
Neil is possibly a double edged sword for the board. He does a very good job but he ploughs his own furrow. The new bloke will, I assume, be much more integrated with the long term plans, including the academy.
There is no drama here, just sad to see him go. He has done a cracking job and he is really interesting to listen to. He also clearly loves being here. He will be missed.
Onward we go.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 18, 2023 17:25:30 GMT 1
Out of interest, if for instance we brought in someone like Potter who i think most fans would say would be an amazing appointment. If Potter then struggles does Nagle still get the beating you're suggesting? Harry Potter? His heavier dad brian
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 18, 2023 17:28:31 GMT 1
SSN got the presser up quickly Interesting press conference and Thank You for putting it up for council telly guys like me... It all looks amicable enough to me, clearly Neil was enjoying the club, the job and the players and the challenges and obviously knew that it was only temporary and this could’ve occurred any time this season - Perhaps as he stated maybe just slightly too soon - However he’s wished everybody the best going forward and will probably - in fact surely will be - properly rewarded financially by the club... And so now to see who the new man to (hopefully) take us forward is gonna be - A big big decision for the new regime for sure to get it correct in the brutal environment of The Championship and here’s hoping that they do get it correct and we are pushing for a play off slot (Big ask but why not)... 😊 However if it goes the other way - offfftt - ☹️ One thing’s for sure DATM (and probably her administrators) will be very busy !
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 18, 2023 17:28:50 GMT 1
He was informed of his departure at the West Brom game. Sounds like it's down to what he said in the press conference. Mental. Who sacks a manager after winning two games! You mean like we did after Lee Clark(e) after that Sheff Utd game? After he’d secured our place in the history books with an (almost unbroken) unbeaten run? The game we lost to Sheffield United ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 17:29:58 GMT 1
So why was Warnock allowed to make changes to the backroom / recruitment teams if the plan was likely to be so short term. That doesn't add up one iota. There’s only the goalkeeping coach that looks like it’s his decision isn’t there? The recruitment, academy and marketing positions will have been made higher up the chain surely. Carl Serrant… Theres also a recruitment general dogsbody that came in as pal of Neil.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 17:31:39 GMT 1
So why was Warnock allowed to make changes to the backroom / recruitment teams if the plan was likely to be so short term. That doesn't add up one iota. Why are you so sure they were Warnock’s decisions? Because I know they were.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 18, 2023 17:33:19 GMT 1
I hope nobody misses the game on Wednesday now. Time to give him the send off he deserves. And let the Yank know how happy we are.
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Post by Dan on Sept 18, 2023 17:35:34 GMT 1
I hope nobody misses the game on Wednesday now. Time to give him the send off he deserves. And let the Yank know how happy we are. Didn't take long for you to brand him with one of your petty nicknames did it, christ
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 18, 2023 17:44:28 GMT 1
All this talk of aiming to get Town into the PL “within 3 years” is new from Nagle/Edwards isn’t it, unless I’m mistaken? That’s a laudable and not unrealistic ambition so you have to think that the new incoming manager has the capability to do that, and suggests they’ll be prepared to invest in the club in order to achieve it. In that respect I guess you could look at it as a positive on what I think is a pretty sad day. It a real shame I can’t be there on Wednesday night to say thanks and goodbye to NW and RJ New or old or whatever it is, the summer window does not reflect this 3 year aim. This summer reflects the short term management under NW. They were never going to spend millions under NW knowing full well he wouldn’t be here next season. Admittedly I think we all expected more up front this window.
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Post by swam4mwg on Sept 18, 2023 17:45:56 GMT 1
Strange timing. Hope they have a really good replacement for him and not another Forheringham type.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 18, 2023 17:48:30 GMT 1
Not disputing that at all. I’m amazed how much he has improved. Now looks so composed when before he always seemed panicked. Guess it’s a great example of how important a manager is to a team. Ruffels can only be said to be fully rehabilitated when people can spell his name right (but to be fair predictive text changed this effort to 'Ruffles', so a lot of it might be a failure to proof-read what has been written). I think that in the last 60 years Town have twice replaced a very good manager with an equally good or better one - Greaves for Johnston and Warnock for Buxton. So never two without three then, perhaps? Warnock for Buxton ?
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 18, 2023 17:53:37 GMT 1
There’s only the goalkeeping coach that looks like it’s his decision isn’t there? The recruitment, academy and marketing positions will have been made higher up the chain surely. Carl Serrant… Theres also a recruitment general dogsbody that came in as pal of Neil. Surely they’ll have all known that Warnocks position was temporary
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2023 17:54:57 GMT 1
Carl Serrant… Theres also a recruitment general dogsbody that came in as pal of Neil. Surely they’ll have all known that Warnocks position was temporary A year is less temporary than 2-3 months…
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 18, 2023 17:56:35 GMT 1
Surely they’ll have all known that Warnocks position was temporary A year is less temporary than 2-3 months… I am sure all involved will get paid off, or the rest of their respective contracts were. The new manager seems to be bringing in his own team by looks of it.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 18, 2023 17:57:11 GMT 1
Strange timing. Hope they have a really good replacement for him and not another Forheringham type. can't be if you listen to the presser and what Edwards said about the guy coming in.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 18, 2023 17:57:59 GMT 1
Surely they’ll have all known that Warnocks position was temporary A year is less temporary than 2-3 months… Collateral damage I spose, not nice for them if they’re jettisoned so soon but something must have changed to speed up the succession.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 18, 2023 17:58:01 GMT 1
SSN got the presser up quickly Interesting press conference and Thank You for putting it up for council telly guys like me... It all looks amicable enough to me, clearly Neil was enjoying the club, the job and the players and the challenges and obviously knew that it was only temporary and this could’ve occurred any time this season - Perhaps as he stated maybe just slightly too soon - However he’s wished everybody the best going forward and will probably - in fact surely will be - properly rewarded financially by the club... And so now to see who the new man to (hopefully) take us forward is gonna be - A big big decision for the new regime for sure to get it correct in the brutal environment of The Championship and here’s hoping that they do get it correct and we are pushing for a play off slot (Big ask but why not)... 😊 However if it goes the other way - offfftt - ☹️ One thing’s for sure DATM (and probably her administrators) will be very busy ! Here's the full one for you Westie 👍
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Post by midlander on Sept 18, 2023 18:01:47 GMT 1
Sounds like Warnock knew the plan and expected it to maybe take until Christmas for his successor to be found. Club have decided upon successor quicker than anticipated (maybe it is crucial we hire him now as could be other interest, who knows?) Doesn't sound like animosity - if there was bad blood, no way would Warnock have stayed on after WBA game, when he was told. Noticed as well that there was a clear reference to Nagle's desire to have us in PL in the next three years. We all knew that Warnock was a stop-gap and he was very unlikely to be here all year. He has done a brilliant job and galvanised the team and fans again. Let's hope the new coaching team can carry that on and build on it. utt if the successor is available now, he was available when warnock we re-hired. 100% given the push. not necessarily. Some contracts from clubs when they get rid of a manager require them to pay a few months after termination. Also, clear that club didn't know who they wanted in the summer and have taken the time to do due diligence on what is available.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Sept 18, 2023 18:05:02 GMT 1
It’s Nagle’s fault for mouthing off on Twitter. He should act professional and not just try to please the fans on social media.
Also…
Why is Nagle hiding and not saying anything on Twitter? He should man up and communicate with the fans. Tell us what we want to hear damnit!!!
You’ve got to love Town fans 😂
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Post by Leporid on Sept 18, 2023 18:05:10 GMT 1
In summary then, Neil Warnock is leaving a bit earlier than he envisaged. TBF to give a fuller picture, I think the sentence should have finished with......or wanted. I posted a pithy summary, not a twenty four book Odyssey. "Should." You presumptuous blighter.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 18, 2023 18:08:01 GMT 1
Surely they’ll have all known that Warnocks position was temporary A year is less temporary than 2-3 months… Perhaps Warnock is harder to work with than they anticipated?
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 18, 2023 18:10:42 GMT 1
And let the Yank know how happy we are. Didn't take long for you to brand him with one of your petty nicknames did it, christ Is he a fucking Yank or not ? Are you saying he's not American ?
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Post by captainblack on Sept 18, 2023 18:12:05 GMT 1
I am really upset , this really is what we did not want at this time of the season, NW has transformed the whole squad , we are now a winning outfit , I am not confident that the incoming manager will get the best out of our current squad, I am unsure that KN really knows what he is doing , I feel that we are entering turbulent times , yet again!
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Post by araucaria on Sept 18, 2023 18:13:07 GMT 1
Ruffels can only be said to be fully rehabilitated when people can spell his name right (but to be fair predictive text changed this effort to 'Ruffles', so a lot of it might be a failure to proof-read what has been written). I think that in the last 60 years Town have twice replaced a very good manager with an equally good or better one - Greaves for Johnston and Warnock for Buxton. So never two without three then, perhaps? Warnock for Buxton ? In 1993. Buxton, called in to 'help' Ian Ross, gets 38 points from 17 games, from memory, promotion a certainty the next season, begged him to stay and he went to Sunderland, initially as assistant there as well. Had Buxton not been sacked at Xmas in 1986, what might he have achieved for us up to May 1993? A lot more than Smith, MacDonald, Hand and Ross did, that's for sure.
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Post by mids on Sept 18, 2023 18:15:01 GMT 1
Sounds like Warnock knew the plan and expected it to maybe take until Christmas for his successor to be found. Club have decided upon successor quicker than anticipated (maybe it is crucial we hire him now as could be other interest, who knows?) Doesn't sound like animosity - if there was bad blood, no way would Warnock have stayed on after WBA game, when he was told. Noticed as well that there was a clear reference to Nagle's desire to have us in PL in the next three years. We all knew that Warnock was a stop-gap and he was very unlikely to be here all year. He has done a brilliant job and galvanised the team and fans again. Let's hope the new coaching team can carry that on and build on it. utt if the successor is available now, he was available when warnock we re-hired. 100% given the push. 100% he wasn't
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Post by schindlersmissed on Sept 18, 2023 18:19:01 GMT 1
Good press conference. Warnock obviously sad to go but this is what he signed up for. Sooner than he or the fans thought but it is still what the club said would happen. Neil is possibly a double edged sword for the board. He does a very good job but he ploughs his own furrow. The new bloke will, I assume, be much more integrated with the long term plans, including the academy. There is no drama here, just sad to see him go. He has done a cracking job and he is really interesting to listen to. He also clearly loves being here. He will be missed. Onward we go. That just about suns up my thoughts
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Sept 18, 2023 18:30:14 GMT 1
Schofield was the wrong appointment at the wrong time, but to put him in the same category as Buzz is unfair IMO. Schofield 0.5 points per game....23 points per season Buzz 1.05 points per game......48 points a season Id agree putting them in the same category is unfair! Not really talking about records- Schofield was an internal appointment, the club had already made it known he was being groomed for the head coach position in the future- that might well have still been a bad decision if happened two years after it did, but he was dealt a shit hand with the circumstances of his appointment. The club actually sought out Buzz, interviewed him and thought "yep, this guy has what it takes. Three year deal."
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 18, 2023 18:37:19 GMT 1
Good press conference. Warnock obviously sad to go but this is what he signed up for. Sooner than he or the fans thought but it is still what the club said would happen. Neil is possibly a double edged sword for the board. He does a very good job but he ploughs his own furrow. The new bloke will, I assume, be much more integrated with the long term plans, including the academy. There is no drama here, just sad to see him go. He has done a cracking job and he is really interesting to listen to. He also clearly loves being here. He will be missed. Onward we go. Agree with this but the timing is bad We need stability more than anything at the moment , I’d have been well happy with Warnock till January, some mid table security and then take a punt Highly risky this move right now
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Post by kyg on Sept 18, 2023 19:04:52 GMT 1
Genuinely dont understand why people are so pissed off. The fact is NW is a legend but this was always temporary until they found someone else. Now they say they have and he will be appointed by the end of the week. SO all that is happening is what they said would happen. NW seemed a bit disappointed because he was enjoying it. However when they think they found the right person they can’t ask them to wait a few months until there’s a run of bad results. Would people have preferred they didn’t start looking until next May when NW walks back out of the door? All we would hear then is “they knew he was leaving for a year”.
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