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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 19, 2023 16:16:40 GMT 1
If Warnock is so revitalised wouldn't he be the best man for a 3 year project to get us promoted? He would love that with his boys.. wardy, rudoni, josh etc. Announce Warnock ! If we back warnock properly to get us up then he would. I actually thought that he would at least get us in the playoffs with this squad anyway. Crazy decision.
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 19, 2023 16:27:40 GMT 1
Warnock says he came back because Dean begged him to get us out of the shit and Sharon encouraged him to come because she loves Town. I wonder what Hoyle thinks of this situation. Hoyle will be well pleased that he’s a million miles away from it all now I’d assume !
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 19, 2023 16:32:17 GMT 1
I wonder what Hoyle thinks of this situation. Hoyle will be well pleased that he’s a million miles away from it all now I’d assume ! Hoyles gone to Mars?
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 19, 2023 16:39:15 GMT 1
Hoyle will be well pleased that he’s a million miles away from it all now I’d assume ! Hoyles gone to Mars? It had to be me that asked this one... But I wonder if there’s a BAR there !!! 🥃 🍺 🥃
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 19, 2023 16:41:41 GMT 1
It had to be me that asked this one... But I wonder if there’s a BAR there !!! 🥃 🍺 🥃 I think there is but they charge stellar prices.
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Post by King Neil on Sept 19, 2023 16:43:48 GMT 1
If Warnock is so revitalised wouldn't he be the best man for a 3 year project to get us promoted? He would love that with his boys.. wardy, rudoni, josh etc. Announce Warnock ! If we back warnock properly to get us up then he would. I actually thought that he would at least get us in the playoffs with this squad anyway. Crazy decision. I thought exactly the same m8 Neil did say in that press conference that he thought there's no reason why we can't crack on and be in/around the playoffs But the ego has landed
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Post by ambryboy on Sept 19, 2023 16:46:44 GMT 1
It had to be me that asked this one... But I wonder if there’s a BAR there !!! 🥃 🍺 🥃 I think there is but they charge stellar prices. ...and the atmosphere is toxic I hear.
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Post by Melc on Sept 19, 2023 16:50:09 GMT 1
I dont understand what there is to NOT believe? Or why people are questioning what theyve done...its bloody obvious why theyve done what theyve done!..we had a temporary manager and we want a permanent manager. For 7 games they might as well have asked Worthy to take charge. It'd better be someone worth the upheaval Slapps you are wasting your time trying to educate some on here!
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 19, 2023 16:50:57 GMT 1
It had to be me that asked this one... But I wonder if there’s a BAR there !!! 🥃 🍺 🥃 I think there is but they charge stellar prices. Star ⭐️ treatment and quality booze when you plough your way to it ! Lovely Seven Sisters there as well ! 😊 And plenty Galaxy’s for chocolate lovers... 😬
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 19, 2023 17:00:12 GMT 1
Wasn't it Reading then Plymouth and Leicester 🤔 Could have been at them. Sure the first ever pic we saw of him sat in the stands was the 4-0 game V Coventry. I can categorically confirm that KN was at the 10-1 Man C game, he stood next to me & shared his pie in the flask & sorted me out a dodgy passport at half time. After the game, him & Oti were taking superfan Maureen & Joan Collins out for a night round Moss Side.
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Post by Melc on Sept 19, 2023 17:05:53 GMT 1
The reason hes leaving is because theyve managed to find and agree a deal with the manager they want going forward. Its as simple as that. You either appoint the man you want...in which case warnock leaves.. Or you DONT appoint the man you want...lose him probably...just so you can keep warnock on as temporary manager a bit longer.....something that would be RIDICULOUS! Warnock was an interim manager...for up to a year but in all probability much less than that....by his own insistence...put in place to tide us over until the management team had been sorted and they were in a position to make decisions like who the manager going forward should be. He himself thought that would take a bit longer, maybe even xmas, but as it is its been done quicker than that. Seems to be a lot of amateur sleuths and conspiracy theorists desperately trying to make this more 'interesting' than it is, but whats happened and why is pretty bloody obvious to me ( because its just what was supposed to happen ) and Im not getting what there is to question about it. Captainslapper once again has to have the last word till he's blue in the face,.. I think he has summed it up perfectly!
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 17:08:49 GMT 1
If we back warnock properly to get us up then he would. I actually thought that he would at least get us in the playoffs with this squad anyway. Crazy decision. I thought exactly the same m8 Neil did say in that press conference that he thought there's no reason why we can't crack on and be in/around the playoffs But the ego has landed There you go again, have to get a dig in at Nagle don't you? Can you explain though where his ego is? He took over the club. He got Warnock back on a temp basis. He has found his man. He ends Warnocks temp contract. And before people start jumping down my throat. I would have loved Warnock to stay for the duration, Heck, even this 3 year plan. But that was never the intention.
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 19, 2023 17:08:58 GMT 1
The reasons for him leaving for a start... You say temporary like he was hired on an interim basis, he signed a 1 year contract which was sold as a transitional 'stabilising' season. I'm not sure I would consider us as stable 6 games into a new season... I hope as much as the next Town fan that they have found their guy and he's exciting appointment that will take us forward, but to pretend there is nothing to question here is very naïve. The reason hes leaving is because theyve managed to find and agree a deal with the manager they want going forward. Its as simple as that. You either appoint the man you want...in which case warnock leaves.. Or you DONT appoint the man you want...lose him probably...just so you can keep warnock on as temporary manager a bit longer.....something that would be RIDICULOUS! Warnock was an interim manager...for up to a year but in all probability much less than that....by his own insistence...put in place to tide us over until the management team had been sorted and they were in a position to make decisions like who the manager going forward should be. He himself thought that would take a bit longer, maybe even xmas, but as it is its been done quicker than that. Seems to be a lot of amateur sleuths and conspiracy theorists desperately trying to make this more 'interesting' than it is, but whats happened and why is pretty bloody obvious to me ( because its just what was supposed to happen ) and Im not getting what there is to question about it.So getting rid of Warnock after 4 games was all in the plan when we gave him a 12 month contract was it? Come on...
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 19, 2023 17:09:12 GMT 1
If Warnock is so revitalised wouldn't he be the best man for a 3 year project to get us promoted? He would love that with his boys.. wardy, rudoni, josh etc. Announce Warnock ! 2 words Seventy four
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 17:10:10 GMT 1
Warnock says he came back because Dean begged him to get us out of the shit and Sharon encouraged him to come because she loves Town. I wonder what Hoyle thinks of this situation. He is still trying not to sleep walk us into relegation.....
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 19, 2023 17:15:23 GMT 1
If Warnock is so revitalised wouldn't he be the best man for a 3 year project to get us promoted? He would love that with his boys.. wardy, rudoni, josh etc. Announce Warnock ! Id agree but I think yourereading too much into his revitalised comment. he also said he was looking forward to NOT working and wouldn't want another job until February cos hes planning this and that instead. Basically I think its revitalised him to the extent he very much isnt retired now and will take a job on for a few months a year..feb through to may probably.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 19, 2023 17:20:29 GMT 1
The reason hes leaving is because theyve managed to find and agree a deal with the manager they want going forward. Its as simple as that. You either appoint the man you want...in which case warnock leaves.. Or you DONT appoint the man you want...lose him probably...just so you can keep warnock on as temporary manager a bit longer.....something that would be RIDICULOUS! Warnock was an interim manager...for up to a year but in all probability much less than that....by his own insistence...put in place to tide us over until the management team had been sorted and they were in a position to make decisions like who the manager going forward should be. He himself thought that would take a bit longer, maybe even xmas, but as it is its been done quicker than that. Seems to be a lot of amateur sleuths and conspiracy theorists desperately trying to make this more 'interesting' than it is, but whats happened and why is pretty bloody obvious to me ( because its just what was supposed to happen ) and Im not getting what there is to question about it.So getting rid of Warnock after 4 games was all in the plan when we gave him a 12 month contract was it? Come on... We had an agreement with him ( the plan ) that he'd manage us until they found his long term replacement.. The year long contract is irrelevant..THAT plan was the understanding. They didnt know how long that would take..Warnock didnt but expected around Xmas time..no one thought it would be a year long arrangement or anything like it....and as its happened its not taken very long. Whats happened is what was supposed to happen and what everyone understood would happen! They just couldn't have known when it would happen.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 19, 2023 17:25:32 GMT 1
So getting rid of Warnock after 4 games was all in the plan when we gave him a 12 month contract was it? Come on... We had an agreement with him ( the plan ) that he'd manage us until they found his long term replacement.. The year long contract is irrelevant..THAT plan was the understanding. They didnt know how long that would take..Warnock didnt but expected around Xmas time..no one thought it would be a year long arrangement or anything like it....and as its happened its not taken very long. Whats happened is what was supposed to happen and what everyone understood would happen! They just couldn't have known when it would happen. And NW is naturally sad about it ( even though this was always the plan) because he’s enjoying working with the players. Some of whom he has revitalised. Add to this the support of the fans and it’s only natural he’d be sad to go. It’s as simple as that imo.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 19, 2023 17:27:29 GMT 1
If Warnock is so revitalised wouldn't he be the best man for a 3 year project to get us promoted? He would love that with his boys.. wardy, rudoni, josh etc. Announce Warnock ! 2 words Seventy four Roy Hodgson is 76, Warnock looks far fitter.
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Post by King Neil on Sept 19, 2023 17:40:27 GMT 1
I thought exactly the same m8 Neil did say in that press conference that he thought there's no reason why we can't crack on and be in/around the playoffs But the ego has landed There you go again, have to get a dig in at Nagle don't you? Can you explain though where his ego is? He took over the club. He got Warnock back on a temp basis. He has found his man. He ends Warnocks temp contract. And before people start jumping down my throat. I would have loved Warnock to stay for the duration, Heck, even this 3 year plan. But that was never the intention. I do try to be balanced in my views For instance I wasn't dragging Dean over the coals over mercenary Carlos
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Post by championship on Sept 19, 2023 17:46:36 GMT 1
I thought exactly the same m8 Neil did say in that press conference that he thought there's no reason why we can't crack on and be in/around the playoffs But the ego has landed There you go again, have to get a dig in at Nagle don't you? Can you explain though where his ego is? He took over the club. He got Warnock back on a temp basis. He has found his man. He ends Warnocks temp contract. And before people start jumping down my throat. I would have loved Warnock to stay for the duration, Heck, even this 3 year plan. But that was never the intention. It doesn’t take a genius to connect the dots. After Nagle’s imo ridiculous tweet he clearly didn’t like Warnock having a go back in the press conference and set train in motion for replacing Warnock. Has Nagle put his own ego ahead of the best interests of Htafc, time will tell.
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Post by marshterrier on Sept 19, 2023 17:51:22 GMT 1
I think there is but they charge stellar prices. Star ⭐️ treatment and quality booze when you plough your way to it ! Lovely Seven Sisters there as well ! 😊 And plenty Galaxy’s for chocolate lovers... 😬 Milky Way rather ....
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 19, 2023 17:51:43 GMT 1
But if they've just come available that must mean they've just left a club, either jumped or pushed, and has that happened to anyone of any note recently. If it's someone that's been available for a while then why has it taken til now, just after "tweetgate" 🤷 Exactly so. If the new manager is someone who was free in the close season, that would confirm that Warnock has been sacked over tweetgate. Would it confirm that he was sacked over tweetgate? No, it wouldn’t me lord
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 19, 2023 17:56:37 GMT 1
I think there is but they charge stellar prices. Star ⭐️ treatment and quality booze when you plough your way to it ! Lovely Seven Sisters there as well ! 😊 And plenty Galaxy’s for chocolate lovers... 😬 Galaxy as well! When you have already got a Mars Bar!! That’s just greedy 😉
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Post by royrace on Sept 19, 2023 18:13:59 GMT 1
My honest and humble opinion is Nagle made the tweet about the Norwich result not being acceptable and the squad is better than that...cue neil said well actually I'm not happy about the summer budget I got Fast forward 2 weeks We play West brom and Neil is told he's being replaced and will be leaving and not even told who's replacing him So my take is to start with nagle panicked a bit after the Norwich game and made the tweet and when Neil bit back decided to replace him.. You wouldn't ask a man to stay on and go through summer training and re-sign players just to change him after 7 games...yes as said it wasn't going to be forever but it should not have ended like this! My loyalty will remain with a great servant to our club Timescales fit so it's hard to say that it isn't the most likely circumstance. Two weeks to find someone else after pushing that button. If it is the case then it shows complete panic and lack of trust. Warnock had earnt both of those in spades. They've put even more pressure on themselves by putting this premier league target on their backs (even without the three year target it still comes with umhuge pressure. The fact they said in three years means that people have high expectations now!) To ditch warnock and make that statement they must (?) Have an amazing coup. I seem to remember the three year part came from NW. Did Edwards mention it? Same press conference they were also saying we couldn't afford a striker because of FFP. So PL in three but we can't afford a championship striker at the minute?! Doesn't add up does it.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 19, 2023 18:33:04 GMT 1
It wasn’t NW who mentioned the 3 years.
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Post by stockport94 on Sept 19, 2023 18:49:00 GMT 1
My first post here after years of reading and sharing the agony and joy on here of being a terrier. I just felt I had to share my thoughts about what has gone on. Not sure anyone wants to listen but only town fans can really understand. I read from some fans that this is a 'sad day' and I feel just like that. I have no axe to grind about our new owners other than to say that the club belongs to the fans. They are custodians of our team nothing more, nothing less and I hope they achieve everything they want but I cannot fathom why we have let Neil Warnock leave and leave right now - which is the biggest thing of all. I don't believe this is the right time for a new manager and I don't believe much of what was said at the press conference. I run a community based company with lots of stakeholders and rarely when sharing news is anything less than agreed beforehand, carefully worded and generally quite some way from what you really want to say. Neil was signed up on a one year contract. Not seven matches. We are not stable as Jake Edwards said. This decision as we have heard was made before WBA by the team running town. We had one point and the owner had commented openly about things to the world. Stable in my view is get to Feb/March. Are we safe? Yes. So now we bring in our target with the help of the man who knows football at this level, Neil Warnock, (it was clear Neil's advice would be sought on who he thinks would be a good appointment - I have read this when things were said about Neil's departure before the summer and what role he would play in succession. It is clear he has played no role at all. They don't want his views - because there has been a view taken that Neil's style and manner (his response to Nagle's twitter comment etc...) is suddenly not for them. It appears to be a petulant decision based upon anger or annoyance by the Nagle etc... Bad decisions are generally made in anger or annoyance. The right time from stability is then in readiness for the summer transfer window. Lets a new man get to know things with little to lose and prepare carefully. That is stability. Not this. This was not a planned and intended move right now. I think a younger Warnock would have walked out after the WBA Edwards chat. Now we see a more measured NW. This is clear in everything he says. So, I've read everyone's thoughts about who the next manager is and all I can think is surely they have just let go of the best manager we could have right now for HTAFC. Someone who can work with a budget. NW. Someone who can overperform his situation. NW. A track record of success at this level in many situations. NW. Loved and trusted by his players. NW. Loved and trusted by the fans. NW. A profile which is big enough to raise the clubs profile. NW. We are Huddersfield Town. Neil Warnock has been so successful here because his is perfect for us and will continue to be. I don't believe anyone that we can get will move the club forward more than NW in any given timeframe. I think this will hit the players massively and if a new manager is able to get them playing then it will have been a huge job. Don't underestimate the demoralising effect this will have on often mentally fragile footballers. They have lost their father figure. They could easily become lost even if the new man is good - just because he isn't NW. Those boots are huge to fill and the owner didn't have to fill them because he had who he really needed. I was interested to hear NW talk about his energy for managing again at the press conference of Monday. So, I'm sat there thinking surely you have the man for your 'three year plan'. He ticks every box. Was this plan never discussed with NW? If he said no I'm off fishing and doing shows soon then fine, but he said he wants to manage football teams. He is the right man - they just didn't ask him because they don't want him. Be honest Jake. If NW had come across as shattered, tired and really for retirement on Monday I could have bought it easier but he didn't do that. His subtle comments totally undercut what was said. I also worry about 'the three year plan'. I hate this kind of talk. Football isn't like that. You can only plan based upon what you know and have. Dreams of PL in 3 years. Talk about a target to be shot at. I don't care about a 3 year PL target. The PL was often a nightmare with a legacy that has nearly killed us. The plan should be to build every year and be sustainable. Set an off-field 3 year plan but don't try and predict 3 years on it. If the new manager performs badly with a squad wanting NW then I can't see this next appointment lasting beyond 12 months. Forget the plan and look at who we are and what we have and build carefully. That is all. Lastly, and then I've gone, I looked at Ronnie Jepson's body language in images after the game on Saturday. He looked gutted and now we know why. I have been watching town since the later Mick Buxton years and have seen too few players and managers look like our club really mattered to them. I cannot fathom why an owner that knows nothing about football or HTAFC would decide to take two legends that mean so much AND ARE DOING A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB away from us all. This decision is up there with Mick Buxton's sacking - relegated disasterously within 18 months. Peter Jackson's sacking for Steve Bruce (need I say more) and Marcus Stewart's still unfathomable sale. I love my team but I fear for us because of the needless gravity of the decision made. I can't think why we had to do this now and why we couldn't harness everything we have with NW and RJ.
I believe NW is one the greatest English EFL/Football League managers of the last 30 years. He is a great manager. He is our manager and we have let that knowledge, skill and ability slip through our fingers needlessly. His record is pretty much unmatched below Premier League level. It is going to be hard watching him in the media after Thursday knowing he was ours and we lost our greatest asset without needing to. It will be even harder when, I am almost certain, he takes the reigns at one of our relegation rivals in February and potentially does last year's trick on us. We are town fans. We know this is possible. I was at Stockport County in 1994 for the Autoglass game when I believe we saw the true ability of NWs management come to the fore. His decisions that day in team selection nullified a Stockport team who has walloped us 3 days earlier. He built a team with modern day legends in there. Whenever his team needed a result they got it. A man for the moment. More importantly for our moment. I will always love my team, but right now for some reason I just feel really sad that we have lost the leader and his deputy that have encapsulated everything I love about town over the last 30 years. I bet there are thousands of my age who feel the same. I just don't know why this week has transpired in the way it has. I just feel gutted and needlessly shot down. On Wednesday, we must say thank you louder than ever. Neil and Ronnie will not come our way again. I do not think they should be going and neither do they or most fans. Thursday will be a tough day as a town fan. Heroes don't come around often. I'm glad they came to my club and I was there to see them. As for the future, who knows? I am concerned already but always hopeful. The loudest standing ovation possible and chants of Neil Warnock's Barmy Army and Rocket Ronnie Jepson need to ring across Huddersfield. That is the football we love and the memories we have made watching our legends at work. Thank you for reading.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 19, 2023 18:54:51 GMT 1
Great Post Neil.
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Post by stockport94 on Sept 19, 2023 18:57:19 GMT 1
Just how I feel really. Just a town fan. Hopeful but exhausted at the same time - just like always.
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Post by zico13 on Sept 19, 2023 19:06:35 GMT 1
excellent post!
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