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Post by goodbet on Sept 19, 2023 14:19:38 GMT 1
And any decent owners would be checking in with the manager...eyup neil is everything OK?...are you OK continuing for the foreseeable future?...or do we really need to be finding someone quite soon? Not of that just the nonsense which has now happened One ops continued quote of its temporary by his insistence is getting quite boring now!!! A natural transition to a new man around Xmas time when hopefully we are quite stable in the table and the new man has a transfer window to get any new faces is what should have happened..it hasn't and that's why a fallout is the real reason Had nagle come out and been honest and said I'm not happy with the results so we want to change things then that's transparent and I would have more respect for him Doing it this way has been quite nasty and I feel quite embarrassed being a Town fan today Neil deserves far better You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Do you mean the itk posters that have a history of defending the club no matter what the club does or says. The itk posters who are making suggestions about Warnock without posting any proof.
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Post by deo1 on Sept 19, 2023 14:20:29 GMT 1
What a balls up by the club letting Warnock go so early on in the season. We’ve not even consulted Warnock with the next appointment and even letting him know who the next manager is. It’s a massive decision by the club removing Warnock and I’m hoping it’s not going to bite us on the arse, something which I think it might do. Warnock has got a song out of the players who under 2 previous managers struggled and looked like cannon fodder. If this decision goes wrong then Nagles early tenor in charge could go pear shaped and turn a lot of Town fans off from both him and the club. Pavarotti? Domingo? Caruso? Wunderlich? Predictive text 😀😀 tenure
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Post by goodbet on Sept 19, 2023 14:27:23 GMT 1
Why is that? If your boss starts tweeting don't you think that you have a right to respond? How many on here have been calling out the fans for shouting out pedo at a match and now we find some on here insinuating some form of dark arts have been practiced by Warnock without any proof offered. It may be Warnock's fault but it will take more than a few snide comments before I will believe anything. Comparing tweets to Sorba regarding paedophilia is on a completely different level to Nagle tweeting something which in all honesty wasn't even that bad. Read my post again. I am not comparing the sorba issue to the tweets. I am comparing the pedo shouting to posters on here accusing Warnock of something without any explanation or proof.
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Post by blue1003 on Sept 19, 2023 14:28:33 GMT 1
Pavarotti? Domingo? Caruso? Wunderlich? Predictive text 😀😀 tenure Tenor can also mean the general character of something, which would fit perfectly with deo1’s original usage.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 14:29:34 GMT 1
Aggressive? Saying they spout utter bollocks? They do.... saying it was because of results and that Nagle should have been honest enough to say that. It's the truth that it is utter bollocks. Over the top comments like 'embarrassing being a town fan this morning' ? Why is it? Our TEMP manager had his role of TEMP ended, just earlier than expected. How is that embarrassing? God knows how they get through life as many more important things happen daily that actually matter. I get through the day wonderfully well..have a beautiful soon to be wife and have lots of wonderful holidays When you are losing a discussion on things you think throwing an insult my way really bothers me???...water off a ducks back The basis for my loyalty to King Neil is...going to 2 finals at Wembley stadium and seeing us getting promoted...and the amazing job he has done last season and this season... If you don't like my options cockwall then tough Can't say there is a discussion to be lost. So you think Warnock got 'sacked' because of 'results' ? Neil has done a remarkable job, no1 is denying that. But he isn't untouchable, and if his conduct has upset those above, then that's his own doing. Any place of work, if you upset those above, you are more than likely going to be relieved. But you're constant slagging off of the new owner and Americans in general is ridiculous.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 14:30:24 GMT 1
Comparing tweets to Sorba regarding paedophilia is on a completely different level to Nagle tweeting something which in all honesty wasn't even that bad. Read my post again. I am not comparing the sorba issue to the tweets. I am comparing the pedo shouting to posters on here accusing Warnock of something without any explanation or proof. Apologies. After re reading I see that now!
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 19, 2023 14:31:28 GMT 1
What a balls up by the club letting Warnock go so early on in the season. We’ve not even consulted Warnock with the next appointment and even letting him know who the next manager is. It’s a massive decision by the club removing Warnock and I’m hoping it’s not going to bite us on the arse, something which I think it might do. Warnock has got a song out of the players who under 2 previous managers struggled and looked like cannon fodder. If this decision goes wrong then Nagles early tenor in charge could go pear shaped and turn a lot of Town fans off from both him and the club. It's a big call. Nothing is or was broken, we had momentum, football really good to watch, fans generally happy. The Club has put itself under pressure it didn't need to be under making this decision now. Everything to lose, nowhere near as much to gain. They must be confident that they are making the right decision. I am not at all convinced but time will tell.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 19, 2023 14:31:59 GMT 1
Another keyboard warrior It's all about opinions... You obviously don't like mine Remind me how many games Mr nagle has attended?? 1 I think Here’s where I think the owners role is misunderstood. The CEO, DoF/ SD are the ones that should be speaking to the manager that literally is why they are in the role. Yeah of course the owner may have touch points at times with the manager, but let’s be honest everyone outside of the club knew this was short term, there was a thought it was only 6 months initially. Now if as some suggest NW is being his devilish self, then there’s probably a point where the powers that be say, this is temporary and doesn’t need to be hardwork, we’re through the initial need to get things in place. Let’s cut ties and empower someone who we believe fits the longer term vision/ criteria. NW is probably a bit miffed cause he was enjoying himself and had thought he’d be here longer. Whilst folk want to view it in normal life, football isn’t that, it’s a results business and dare I say thinks weren’t as rosy as folk are making out just two games ago. Let’s just give NW the send off he deserves tomorrow night, then let’s focus on the club as that’s who we all support It is the team I support not necessarily the owner.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 14:32:51 GMT 1
You spout utter bollocks. It has nothing to do with results. How is it nasty? Neil agree to be a temp manager for no more than 12 months. If the right man is there now, we get him. Embarrassed to be a town fan? Your logic is far more Embarrassing, especially when itk posters have said numerous times, it is Neil's fault why it has happened earlier than expected. You won't be missing him thay muc, the way you speak about him, you can kiss the posters of him you have on your bedroom wall every morning still. Unless you're a grown up of course, in which case, grow the fuck up. Do you mean the itk posters that have a history of defending the club no matter what the club does or says. The itk posters who are making suggestions about Warnock without posting any proof. No itk posters that call things correctly. Who says there is proof to be shown. What if its verbal or seen? And of the itk people did post proof, they would be given less and less confidential information. We should be lucky they say what they do. It is like people are jealous or envious that people genuinely know things (that isn't aimed at you).
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 19, 2023 14:33:04 GMT 1
I’d be much happier if was still managing us but if the ownership aren’t happy with his behaviour it’s his own stupid fault isn’t it? Why is that? If your boss starts tweeting don't you think that you have a right to respond? How many on here have been calling out the fans for shouting out pedo at a match and now we find some on here insinuating some form of dark arts have been practiced by Warnock without any proof offered. It may be Warnock's fault but it will take more than a few snide comments before I will believe anything. Reading between the lines it’s not about that. I’ve heard about stuff that happened when he was last with us that I was pretty shocked by, I’m not gonna spread it on a public forum though. And it doesn’t mean I don’t revere him, just that i can believe that he’d be difficult to manage.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 19, 2023 14:33:50 GMT 1
The reason hes leaving is because theyve managed to find and agree a deal with the manager they want going forward. Its as simple as that. You either appoint the man you want...in which case warnock leaves.. Or you DONT appoint the man you want...lose him probably...just so you can keep warnock on as temporary manager a bit longer.....something that would be RIDICULOUS! Warnock was an interim manager...for up to a year but in all probability much less than that....by his own insistence...put in place to tide us over until the management team had been sorted and they were in a position to make decisions like who the manager going forward should be. He himself thought that would take a bit longer, maybe even xmas, but as it is its been done quicker than that. Seems to be a lot of amateur sleuths and conspiracy theorists desperately trying to make this more 'interesting' than it is, but whats happened and why is pretty bloody obvious to me ( because its just what was supposed to happen ) and Im not getting what there is to question about it. Captainslapper once again has to have the last word till he's blue in the face,.. Ooo hello. Im in a discussion with someone.. If you dont like that tell somebody who gives a shit.
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Post by Ladaphosen on Sept 19, 2023 14:41:12 GMT 1
The reasons for him leaving for a start... You say temporary like he was hired on an interim basis, he signed a 1 year contract which was sold as a transitional 'stabilising' season. I'm not sure I would consider us as stable 6 games into a new season... I hope as much as the next Town fan that they have found their guy and he's exciting appointment that will take us forward, but to pretend there is nothing to question here is very naïve. The reason hes leaving is because theyve managed to find and agree a deal with the manager they want going forward. Its as simple as that. You either appoint the man you want...in which case warnock leaves.. Or you DONT appoint the man you want...lose him probably...just so you can keep warnock on as temporary manager a bit longer.....something that would be RIDICULOUS! Warnock was an interim manager...for up to a year but in all probability much less than that....by his own insistence...put in place to tide us over until the management team had been sorted and they were in a position to make decisions like who the manager going forward should be. He himself thought that would take a bit longer, maybe even xmas, but as it is its been done quicker than that. Seems to be a lot of amateur sleuths and conspiracy theorists desperately trying to make this more 'interesting' than it is, but whats happened and why is pretty bloody obvious to me ( because its just what was supposed to happen ) and Im not getting what there is to question about it. You call yourself balanced but call anyone who raises fair and legitimate questions ‘conspiracy theorists’…
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 19, 2023 14:48:40 GMT 1
The reason hes leaving is because theyve managed to find and agree a deal with the manager they want going forward. Its as simple as that. You either appoint the man you want...in which case warnock leaves.. Or you DONT appoint the man you want...lose him probably...just so you can keep warnock on as temporary manager a bit longer.....something that would be RIDICULOUS! Warnock was an interim manager...for up to a year but in all probability much less than that....by his own insistence...put in place to tide us over until the management team had been sorted and they were in a position to make decisions like who the manager going forward should be. He himself thought that would take a bit longer, maybe even xmas, but as it is its been done quicker than that. Seems to be a lot of amateur sleuths and conspiracy theorists desperately trying to make this more 'interesting' than it is, but whats happened and why is pretty bloody obvious to me ( because its just what was supposed to happen ) and Im not getting what there is to question about it. You call yourself balanced but call anyone who raises fair and legitimate questions ‘conspiracy theorists’… Or amateur sleuths! Most of the moaning Im reading seems to centre around conspiracy theories about falling out about tweets or falling out about something Warnock's done. I really dont think theres anything weird going on here...we had a temporary manager and now weve found the permanent one they want to replace him. And thats it.
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Post by King Neil on Sept 19, 2023 14:48:49 GMT 1
I get through the day wonderfully well..have a beautiful soon to be wife and have lots of wonderful holidays When you are losing a discussion on things you think throwing an insult my way really bothers me???...water off a ducks back The basis for my loyalty to King Neil is...going to 2 finals at Wembley stadium and seeing us getting promoted...and the amazing job he has done last season and this season... If you don't like my options cockwall then tough Can't say there is a discussion to be lost. So you think Warnock got 'sacked' because of 'results' ? Neil has done a remarkable job, no1 is denying that. But he isn't untouchable, and if his conduct has upset those above, then that's his own doing. Any place of work, if you upset those above, you are more than likely going to be relieved. But you're constant slagging off of the new owner and Americans in general is ridiculous. My honest and humble opinion is Nagle made the tweet about the Norwich result not being acceptable and the squad is better than that...cue neil said well actually I'm not happy about the summer budget I got Fast forward 2 weeks We play West brom and Neil is told he's being replaced and will be leaving and not even told who's replacing him So my take is to start with nagle panicked a bit after the Norwich game and made the tweet and when Neil bit back decided to replace him.. You wouldn't ask a man to stay on and go through summer training and re-sign players just to change him after 7 games...yes as said it wasn't going to be forever but it should not have ended like this! My loyalty will remain with a great servant to our club
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 19, 2023 14:59:25 GMT 1
He was at the Cov and Reading game for a start. Wasn't it Reading then Plymouth and Leicester 🤔
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Post by goodbet on Sept 19, 2023 15:01:31 GMT 1
Do you mean the itk posters that have a history of defending the club no matter what the club does or says. The itk posters who are making suggestions about Warnock without posting any proof. No itk posters that call things correctly. Who says there is proof to be shown. What if its verbal or seen? And of the itk people did post proof, they would be given less and less confidential information. We should be lucky they say what they do. It is like people are jealous or envious that people genuinely know things (that isn't aimed at you). You can believe all the so called ink posters you want and take anything they say without a shred of evidence but not everyone is so gullible.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 19, 2023 15:06:51 GMT 1
What a balls up by the club letting Warnock go so early on in the season. We’ve not even consulted Warnock with the next appointment and even letting him know who the next manager is. It’s a massive decision by the club removing Warnock and I’m hoping it’s not going to bite us on the arse, something which I think it might do. Warnock has got a song out of the players who under 2 previous managers struggled and looked like cannon fodder. If this decision goes wrong then Nagles early tenor in charge could go pear shaped and turn a lot of Town fans off from both him and the club. It's a big call. Nothing is or was broken, we had momentum, football really good to watch, fans generally happy. The Club has put itself under pressure it didn't need to be under making this decision now. Everything to lose, nowhere near as much to gain. They must be confident that they are making the right decision. I am not at all convinced but time will tell. Correct. I actually enjoyed the football on Saturday. Wingers bombing forward, crosses onto the danger zone, quick movement and passing, a few long balls out wide, chances created... Haven't had that for years. I really don't want to see us plodding around passing it across the back 4, stopping on half way and turning inside when on the break etc etc.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 15:08:05 GMT 1
He was at the Cov and Reading game for a start. Wasn't it Reading then Plymouth and Leicester 🤔 Could have been at them. Sure the first ever pic we saw of him sat in the stands was the 4-0 game V Coventry.
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Post by rockwall on Sept 19, 2023 15:09:49 GMT 1
No itk posters that call things correctly. Who says there is proof to be shown. What if its verbal or seen? And of the itk people did post proof, they would be given less and less confidential information. We should be lucky they say what they do. It is like people are jealous or envious that people genuinely know things (that isn't aimed at you). You can believe all the so called ink posters you want and take anything they say without a shred of evidence but not everyone is so gullible. Well we shall probably find out at some point. But I wouldnt say edging my bets on those itk is being gullible.
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Post by mrg on Sept 19, 2023 15:15:52 GMT 1
It's a big call. Nothing is or was broken, we had momentum, football really good to watch, fans generally happy. The Club has put itself under pressure it didn't need to be under making this decision now. Everything to lose, nowhere near as much to gain. They must be confident that they are making the right decision. I am not at all convinced but time will tell. Correct. I actually enjoyed the football on Saturday. Wingers bombing forward, crosses onto the danger zone, quick movement and passing, a few long balls out wide, chances created... Haven't had that for years. I really don't want to see us plodding around passing it across the back 4, stopping on half way and turning inside when on the break etc etc. Against rotherham though isnt it. I agree, its a big call and town will finish at least mid table with warnock in charge. Thursday/Friday will show how big the new directors are thinking. I would be happy with a chilled out mid table year.
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Post by sapphireblue on Sept 19, 2023 15:23:03 GMT 1
Can't say there is a discussion to be lost. So you think Warnock got 'sacked' because of 'results' ? Neil has done a remarkable job, no1 is denying that. But he isn't untouchable, and if his conduct has upset those above, then that's his own doing. Any place of work, if you upset those above, you are more than likely going to be relieved. But you're constant slagging off of the new owner and Americans in general is ridiculous. My honest and humble opinion is Nagle made the tweet about the Norwich result not being acceptable and the squad is better than that...cue neil said well actually I'm not happy about the summer budget I got Fast forward 2 weeks We play West brom and Neil is told he's being replaced and will be leaving and not even told who's replacing him So my take is to start with nagle panicked a bit after the Norwich game and made the tweet and when Neil bit back decided to replace him.. You wouldn't ask a man to stay on and go through summer training and re-sign players just to change him after 7 games...yes as said it wasn't going to be forever but it should not have ended like this! My loyalty will remain with a great servant to our club My respect, thanks and admiration are with Warnock - for ever. My loyalties are with him too, but that only lasts until approx 10pm tomorrow. After that, they will be with the new manager.
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Post by Towner47 on Sept 19, 2023 15:29:01 GMT 1
Seconded but hope its a good choice
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Post by mosher on Sept 19, 2023 15:44:27 GMT 1
It does if the person theyve identified as who they want as manager going forward has become available. If thats the case ( and it seems it is ) then they'd be daft to miss out on that person just to allow our temporary manager a bit longer in the job! But if they've just come available that must mean they've just left a club, either jumped or pushed, and has that happened to anyone of any note recently. If it's someone that's been available for a while then why has it taken til now, just after "tweetgate" 🤷 Or, as the makeup of the board and recruitment team has only been in place a couple of weeks, it's taken from then til now to identify a suitable target. And it's taken the rest of that short time to approach and speak to the (just) identified target. Could (and probably will be) nothing to do with them being sacked and absolutely sod all to do with a tweet that just said (badly worded) what we were all thinking at the time.
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Post by mosher on Sept 19, 2023 15:45:58 GMT 1
But if they've just come available that must mean they've just left a club, either jumped or pushed, and has that happened to anyone of any note recently. If it's someone that's been available for a while then why has it taken til now, just after "tweetgate" 🤷 Exactly so. If the new manager is someone who was free in the close season, that would confirm that Warnock has been sacked over tweetgate. No it wouldn't as per my reply to Porroh.
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Post by mosher on Sept 19, 2023 15:52:09 GMT 1
Another keyboard warrior It's all about opinions... You obviously don't like mine Remind me how many games Mr nagle has attended?? 1 I thinkYou're not doing too well with your 'facts' today pal Just today?
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 19, 2023 15:56:27 GMT 1
Warnock says he came back because Dean begged him to get us out of the shit and Sharon encouraged him to come because she loves Town. I wonder what Hoyle thinks of this situation.
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Post by mosher on Sept 19, 2023 15:56:42 GMT 1
Predictive text 😀😀 tenure Tenor can also mean the general character of something, which would fit perfectly with doe1’s original usage. I know, but I wanted to take the piss
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 19, 2023 15:58:53 GMT 1
Warnock says he came back because Dean begged him to get us out of the shit and Sharon encouraged him to come because she loves Town. I wonder what Hoyle thinks of this situation. He’s probably thinking “I like that talk of the PL in three years, loadsamoney”!
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 19, 2023 16:01:50 GMT 1
Can't say there is a discussion to be lost. So you think Warnock got 'sacked' because of 'results' ? Neil has done a remarkable job, no1 is denying that. But he isn't untouchable, and if his conduct has upset those above, then that's his own doing. Any place of work, if you upset those above, you are more than likely going to be relieved. But you're constant slagging off of the new owner and Americans in general is ridiculous. My honest and humble opinion is Nagle made the tweet about the Norwich result not being acceptable and the squad is better than that...cue neil said well actually I'm not happy about the summer budget I got Fast forward 2 weeks We play West brom and Neil is told he's being replaced and will be leaving and not even told who's replacing him So my take is to start with nagle panicked a bit after the Norwich game and made the tweet and when Neil bit back decided to replace him.. You wouldn't ask a man to stay on and go through summer training and re-sign players just to change him after 7 games...yes as said it wasn't going to be forever but it should not have ended like this! My loyalty will remain with a great servant to our club Timescales fit so it's hard to say that it isn't the most likely circumstance. Two weeks to find someone else after pushing that button. If it is the case then it shows complete panic and lack of trust. Warnock had earnt both of those in spades. They've put even more pressure on themselves by putting this premier league target on their backs (even without the three year target it still comes with umhuge pressure. The fact they said in three years means that people have high expectations now!) To ditch warnock and make that statement they must (?) Have an amazing coup.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Sept 19, 2023 16:13:53 GMT 1
If Warnock is so revitalised wouldn't he be the best man for a 3 year project to get us promoted?
He would love that with his boys.. wardy, rudoni, josh etc.
Announce Warnock !
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