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Post by htafcokay on Aug 17, 2023 16:32:42 GMT 1
What are these ambitions and exciting ideas? You’ve really heard nothing of any positivity? I'm wondering what they are, in your opinion? |
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Post by belizian on Aug 17, 2023 17:17:28 GMT 1
I'd be very surprised if Kev's here in 3 years time unless he manages to get a deal with Netflix. I just don't think we're the right club, or town for that matter, for an extravert American owner. Are you saying that cos we've lost our first three competative ganes of the season.  No, not at all. Personally I'm not surprised by that. Nor will I be if we don't win any of the next 3. We have a very tough start in what is an especially tough championship. However we do have a lot of fans whose expectations are pretty unrealistic and who are not adverse to venting their feelings in a 'forthright' manner. I don't know how Dean put up with all the abuse he got and I'm not sure that KN will, especially as he likes to interact on social media. He comes across as a great guy who's intentions are good (but hampered by EFL regulations) but whether he can put up with the dog's abuse he'll surely get I do wonder. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 17, 2023 17:47:20 GMT 1
You’ve really heard nothing of any positivity? I'm wondering what they are, in your opinion? Warnock re(appointment), decent first impression of new management, stadium plans. Shaking up the catering, Academy (re)expansion amongst others. |
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Post by incognito on Aug 17, 2023 18:12:28 GMT 1
Agree with all this, but just have my reservations on Cartwright. Felt the calls for Chris Markham were on point for that role - doing a terrific job at Bolton. Really happy with the quick movement to begin the upgrade of the academy to Cat 3. I think a Cat 3 academy is going to be a prerequisite to be promoted into the PL in the next few years. Great that local lads between 9-16 can play for Town again. I'm assuming Nagle is familiar with Cartwright and would prefer someone he already knows or at least had first hand recommendations of, as oppose to Markham who he probably doesn't know exists. I too would like to see Markham in the role but maybe it's one that will have to wait for the future. Nagle knows who Markham is - he was liking his tweets from the JPT Final in early April. Later that month BWFC came out and "strongly played down" suggestions of him returning to HTAFC. Then last month they quietly upgraded his job title to "Sporting Director" (Previously "Technical Performance Director"), presumably with an associated salary bump and adjusted reporting lines. Personally I'd say it's highly likely that Markham was sounded out as one of the potential candidates for the position that Cartwright now holds. Whether we ultimately chose Cartwright (he was linked even earlier than Markham) or whether Markham chose to stay at BWFC, who knows? |
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Post by sabailand on Aug 17, 2023 18:27:20 GMT 1
Are you saying that cos we've lost our first three competative ganes of the season. No, not at all. Personally I'm not surprised by that. Nor will I be if we don't win any of the next 3. We have a very tough start in what is an especially tough championship. However we do have a lot of fans whose expectations are pretty unrealistic and who are not adverse to venting their feelings in a 'forthright' manner. I don't know how Dean put up with all the abuse he got and I'm not sure that KN will, especially as he likes to interact on social media. He comes across as a great guy who's intentions are good (but hampered by EFL regulations) but whether he can put up with the dog's abuse he'll surely get I do wonder. Yeah its good he interacts with fans on social media but it can also be an absolute scourge, its ok interacting but with that it invites the knobheads, hopefully he has enough about him to see through it all, you dont become a successfull multi millionare businessman being naive and nice all the time. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 17, 2023 18:34:44 GMT 1
I'm assuming Nagle is familiar with Cartwright and would prefer someone he already knows or at least had first hand recommendations of, as oppose to Markham who he probably doesn't know exists. I too would like to see Markham in the role but maybe it's one that will have to wait for the future. Nagle knows who Markham is - he was liking his tweets from the JPT Final in early April. Later that month BWFC came out and "strongly played down" suggestions of him returning to HTAFC. Then last month they quietly upgraded his job title to "Sporting Director" (Previously "Technical Performance Director"), presumably with an associated salary bump and adjusted reporting lines. Personally I'd say it's highly likely that Markham was sounded out as one of the potential candidates for the position that Cartwright now holds. Whether we ultimately chose Cartwright (he was linked even earlier than Markham) or whether Markham chose to stay at BWFC, who knows? Good sleuthing. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 18, 2023 5:42:03 GMT 1
I had a listen to the podcast interview with Kev this morning. I think the main takeaway from it for me was Nagle’s point about the toilets needing some refurbishment. This is a topic that hasn’t got the attention it deserves over the last 10 years or so. I don’t really enjoy visiting them when at a game and the water pressure from the taps is terrible. I hope our plans for the refurbishment are big - ideally smart toilets installed in all the cubicles as a real show of intent to the rest of the division. Not having total braindead fans that go to the sit down loos and piss all over the seats would be enough for me. We need smarter fans before smart toilets  |
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Post by DuffMan on Aug 22, 2023 12:30:35 GMT 1
I'm not one to demand an owner puts his money in but I'm starting to question the excuse about the budget and our hands our tied because of the takeover / ffp.
It seems many clubs across the spectrum are making their way round this via loans with mandatory buy clauses or deferred payments. If the owner is planning on running a tight ship and not investing much of his own then fair enough but I'd rather we didn't hide behind an excuse that can so blatantly be got around with creative accounting.
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Post by dalesterrier on Aug 22, 2023 12:43:59 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 12:46:31 GMT 1
I'm not one to demand an owner puts his money in but I'm starting to question the excuse about the budget and our hands our tied because of the takeover / ffp. It seems many clubs across the spectrum are making their way round this via loans with mandatory buy clauses or deferred payments. If the owner is planning on running a tight ship and not investing much of his own then fair enough but I'd rather we didn't hide behind an excuse that can so blatantly be got around with creative accounting. Question for the next q and a perhaps. Perhaps ... where were you at the last one ? |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 22, 2023 13:04:35 GMT 1
It sounds like it was Nagle's budget after all... From the article: The exact conditions the EFL might impose are not explicitly spelt out in their regulations, but we have verified that new owners are expected to adhere to the business plan they have submitted as part of the takeover process – and that failing to do so would not go unchallenged. |
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Post by rockwall on Aug 22, 2023 13:07:11 GMT 1
I'm not one to demand an owner puts his money in but I'm starting to question the excuse about the budget and our hands our tied because of the takeover / ffp. It seems many clubs across the spectrum are making their way round this via loans with mandatory buy clauses or deferred payments. If the owner is planning on running a tight ship and not investing much of his own then fair enough but I'd rather we didn't hide behind an excuse that can so blatantly be got around with creative accounting. Question for the next q and a perhaps. You could have gone to Magic Rock and asked.... Sure this has been answered numerous times now. |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 22, 2023 13:48:55 GMT 1
The question that this does raise (and it is a good explanation) is: Why didn't KN submit a larger budget? What was the constraint? Was it choice or was it regulatory? That all said we still have budget available so until the window closes we don't know the real impact (of FFI and budget). I don't think that hoping the current squad can be competitive in the period between the window closing and opening in January. We know how tough January is so better we add now, if possible. |
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Post by DuffMan on Aug 22, 2023 14:14:16 GMT 1
I'm not one to demand an owner puts his money in but I'm starting to question the excuse about the budget and our hands our tied because of the takeover / ffp. It seems many clubs across the spectrum are making their way round this via loans with mandatory buy clauses or deferred payments. If the owner is planning on running a tight ship and not investing much of his own then fair enough but I'd rather we didn't hide behind an excuse that can so blatantly be got around with creative accounting. Question for the next q and a perhaps. Perhaps ... where were you at the last one ? Mexico |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 14:17:33 GMT 1
Perhaps ... where were you at the last one ? Mexico Gualadajara? (Sorry will only mean something to folk who watch 90 day fiance uk ) |
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 22, 2023 16:11:31 GMT 1
It seems many clubs across the spectrum are making their way round this via loans with mandatory buy clauses or deferred payments. So are we. Burgzorg has been loaned with an 'option to buy' clause, which means we've agreed the future transfer fee in advance - but also means that we aren't obligated to sign up to it if it turns out he doesn't fit the club (and also that the player could turn down whatever we offer next summer). www.htafc.com/news/2023/august/delano-burgzorg-agrees-loan-from-mainz/"As part of the deal, we would have the ability to make the move permanent at the end of the 2023/24 season" |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 22, 2023 16:18:18 GMT 1
Gualadajara? (Sorry will only mean something to folk who watch 90 day fiance uk ) Does anyone ? |
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Post by royrace on Aug 22, 2023 17:01:27 GMT 1
The question that this does raise (and it is a good explanation) is: Why didn't KN submit a larger budget? What was the constraint? Was it choice or was it regulatory? That all said we still have budget available so until the window closes we don't know the real impact (of FFI and budget). I don't think that hoping the current squad can be competitive in the period between the window closing and opening in January. We know how tough January is so better we add now, if possible. Exactly. The question is; who submitted the tiny (by normal championship standards) budget for the club... and why? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 17:30:36 GMT 1
Gualadajara? (Sorry will only mean something to folk who watch 90 day fiance uk ) Does anyone ? Funniest programme on tv |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 22, 2023 17:46:05 GMT 1
I'll take your word for it |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 18:03:14 GMT 1
I'll take your word for it I might be wrong but I think it's Bob Mortimers favourite also |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 22, 2023 18:03:50 GMT 1
I'll take your word for it I might be wrong but I think it's Bob Mortimers favourite also Well, that settles it then 🙄 |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 18:10:01 GMT 1
I might be wrong but I think it's Bob Mortimers favourite also Well, that settles it then 🙄 If you're saying you've never seen it then I'm saying it's premature for the rolling eyes |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 22, 2023 18:22:13 GMT 1
Well, that settles it then 🙄 If you're saying you've never seen it then I'm saying it's premature for the rolling eyes I've never seen it, I've no intention of ever seeing it. I've no interest in any of the reality stuff that ITV2 and E4 constantly seem to have on. Plus Bob Mortimer finding it funny doesn't help as I only ever found him and his mate funny if I was absolutely pissed. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 18:27:31 GMT 1
If you're saying you've never seen it then I'm saying it's premature for the rolling eyes I've never seen it, I've no intention of ever seeing it. I've no interest in any of the reality stuff that ITV2 and E4 constantly seem to have on. Plus Bob Mortimer finding it funny doesn't help as I only ever found him and his mate funny if I was absolutely pissed. And I'd rather chop my ears off than listen to the Lathums and the Lottery Winners. All about opinions innit |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 22, 2023 18:34:15 GMT 1
If you're saying you've never seen it then I'm saying it's premature for the rolling eyes I've never seen it, I've no intention of ever seeing it. I've no interest in any of the reality stuff that ITV2 and E4 constantly seem to have on. Plus Bob Mortimer finding it funny doesn't help as I only ever found him and his mate funny if I was absolutely pissed. Nowt wrong with a bit of Bob. Back on the subject of signing with view to a permanent deal in the future, I’m not a fan. It feels like kicking the can down the road nine times out of ten. Yes, you get to see what the player is like but it’s almost akin to getting a new TV with a payday loan, paying back through the arse. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 22, 2023 18:40:12 GMT 1
It sounds like it was Nagle's budget after all... From the article: The exact conditions the EFL might impose are not explicitly spelt out in their regulations, but we have verified that new owners are expected to adhere to the business plan they have submitted as part of the takeover process – and that failing to do so would not go unchallenged. Big Ern.. I think this is the answer to your question |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 22, 2023 19:00:54 GMT 1
I've never seen it, I've no intention of ever seeing it. I've no interest in any of the reality stuff that ITV2 and E4 constantly seem to have on. Plus Bob Mortimer finding it funny doesn't help as I only ever found him and his mate funny if I was absolutely pissed. And I'd rather chop my ears off than listen to the Lathums and the Lottery Winners. All about opinions innit Good for you, I'm the same with Teenage Boreclub and Ian Durys lad. Opinions eh 🤔 |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 22, 2023 19:05:27 GMT 1
And I'd rather chop my ears off than listen to the Lathums and the Lottery Winners. All about opinions innit Good for you, I'm the same with Teenage Boreclub and Ian Durys lad. Opinions eh 🤔 They're called Teenage Fanclub . My views on your musical tastes have always stayed with me until now. Cos they are your tastes so why would I get involved with that ? Ditto you and my TV viewing tastes . Cheers |
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Post by royrace on Aug 22, 2023 19:33:31 GMT 1
If you're saying you've never seen it then I'm saying it's premature for the rolling eyes I've never seen it, I've no intention of ever seeing it. I've no interest in any of the reality stuff that ITV2 and E4 constantly seem to have on. Plus Bob Mortimer finding it funny doesn't help as I only ever found him and his mate funny if I was absolutely pissed. I’m a late entrant to the Bob Mortimer fan club, in the 90s it felt like I was the only person in the country that didn’t find shooting stars remotely amusing. Him and Paul Whitehouse are superb on Gone Fishing though and his first novel is well worth a read! |
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