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Post by dewsburyterrier on Dec 24, 2023 13:52:40 GMT 1
We are the 4th lowest scorers in the division. We have the chance to bring in the top scorer from the division below. I don't really understand how this is a question, get him straight back. There is no chance we are going to sign a player remotely as good as him with our recent transfer record. If we were linked with the top scorer in L1 and it wasn't Rhodes, we would all be getting a bit giddy. |
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Post by sabailand on Dec 24, 2023 13:54:50 GMT 1
Doesn't matter how much money we spend with Moore's anaesthetic football. Haaland would struggle under this set-up. And Pep would struggle to get these players playing decent football. The problem is much deeper rooted than Moore. I know management is a lot more complex than just picking a team on mnatchday, but it really would be a good test of a 'top' managers credentials to see what they could get out of a side like ours. |
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Post by rocky on Dec 24, 2023 14:11:05 GMT 1
Alan Nixon saying that Huddersfield will recall Rhodes in January. Hopefully as 3rd choice. We should be looking to sign two championship quality strikers at the minimum in January. Compared to where we are now, that would be dreamland! Rhodes back plus one Championship quality striker would represent a successful window with regard to strikers. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 24, 2023 14:24:38 GMT 1
You can get away with contributing little to the team in open play in league one as you will always get chances to make up for it and Rhodes inevitably will always bag one of those.
In the championship you've got to be involved in open play, even if it is just holding the ball up. Rhodes doesn't do that and he also won't score goals because we don't create chances. We are therefore better off letting him go to Blackpool for a small fee and look to bring someone in who can actually hold the ball and help us get further up the pitch. No idea who that player might be but I bet Moore has told Cartwright that he wants Michael Smith
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 24, 2023 14:36:39 GMT 1
Hopefully as 3rd choice. We should be looking to sign two championship quality strikers at the minimum in January. Compared to where we are now, that would be dreamland! Rhodes back plus one Championship quality striker would represent a successful window with regard to strikers. No it wouldn't. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 24, 2023 14:43:15 GMT 1
No need to panic people, Northampton will send Simpson back because he can't get regular game time there. No doubt he'd walk straight into our team  |
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Post by ibby on Dec 24, 2023 14:54:11 GMT 1
Rhodes gets a second chance for me now. On fire at Blackpool.
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Post by rocky on Dec 24, 2023 14:54:46 GMT 1
Compared to where we are now, that would be dreamland! Rhodes back plus one Championship quality striker would represent a successful window with regard to strikers. No it wouldn't. So, a Championship quality striker plus a good option from the bench isn’t success compared to where we are now in strikers!? Think we’ll have to agree to disagree. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 24, 2023 15:01:05 GMT 1
No need to panic people, Northampton will send Simpson back because he can't get regular game time there. No doubt he'd walk straight into our team Scored yesterday (not that I’m suggesting we get him back). |
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Post by rickrast on Dec 24, 2023 15:08:56 GMT 1
On current trends, Rhodes will soon have bagged more goals than Town.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 24, 2023 15:16:54 GMT 1
Rhodes gets a second chance for me now. On fire at Blackpool. A second chance to be the only town player in the opposition half, scrapping or chasing longish punts from our 18 yard box?? A second chance to be starved of widemen who actually get somewhere near the bye line or the opponents box before whacking in a hopeful cross?? To get nothing to feet in or around the opposition box.. Its a second chance to be another body in our box simply defending set pieces.. If I thought for a second we might alter what we do to accomodate a 'finisher' then yes, but that would not happen. Just another to run about and be taken off for 'failing' after 70 minutes.. Our only way out IMO, is to play with a front 3, further up the pitch for as much of the game as we can. 3 who have enough pace and can run with the ball well enough to move the whole bloody team up the pitch, quicker and for longer. We may not score more goals but we wouldnt  as much of the pitch for as long, because its simply becoming a matter of time or luck as to when we concede. |
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 24, 2023 16:11:34 GMT 1
So, a Championship quality striker plus a good option from the bench isn’t success compared to where we are now in strikers!? Think we’ll have to agree to disagree. Why are people obsessed with bringing a striker back that hasn't been good enough for the three years he's been here? We might as well bring back Tyreece Simpson as another "good option from the bench". |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 24, 2023 16:22:24 GMT 1
So, a Championship quality striker plus a good option from the bench isn’t success compared to where we are now in strikers!? Think we’ll have to agree to disagree. Why are people obsessed with bringing a striker back that hasn't been good enough for the three years he's been here? We might as well bring back Tyreece Simpson as another "good option from the bench". *Sigh* Just leave it. People won't accept that Rhodes isn't good enough at this level, simply because he's rattling them in against L1 standard players. The vast majority of defenders in this league are ex- or soon to be Greedy League players and a significant step-up from the ones that Rhodes is routinely scoring against. I know that, and you know that, but many on here just won't accept it. These are the same fans who were crying out for Hodgkinson/Hoyle to get rid of Rhodes and his big wages when first he began to fail, but now he's seen as the Second Coming. I'm 100% certain that Moore will recall him, but I genuinely expect him to fire blanks again, mainly because he will either not be given game time or - more likely - because we just don't create the chances for him. Time will tell, but you might be able to fill your boots if and when Rhodes returns and the goals dry up. Of course I could (hopefully!!) be very wrong... 😉 |
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 24, 2023 16:27:47 GMT 1
Rhodes has never had a sustained period in the side during his second spell. It would be interesting to know what his goals per minute record is.
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Dec 24, 2023 16:43:34 GMT 1
Nothing to lose by recalling JR, playing him until QPR (a), three games. If he's found wanting, sell him on. Not my preferred course, but it would prove folk right or wrong in their desire for a return.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Dec 24, 2023 19:14:03 GMT 1
Nothing to lose by recalling JR, playing him until QPR (a), three games. If he's found wanting, sell him on. Not my preferred course, but it would prove folk right or wrong in their desire for a return. If he doesn’t score in those 3 games, what would that prove? To me, it wouldn’t say anything about Rhodes ability as a striker or goal scorer. I’m confident it would yet again prove we don’t have the creativity to make chances for him. I agree that he probably isn’t the solution long term but we have no creative sparks in our team. Bring in Rhodes and prioritise strengthening the wings and midfield, I am confident Rhodes would bag. |
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Dec 24, 2023 20:16:02 GMT 1
As much as I love him I don’t think he’d make a blind bit of difference to the current situation.
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Post by heffingdream44 on Dec 24, 2023 22:49:28 GMT 1
Regardless of whether Rhodes is good enough for this division or not, he walks in to our team. Ward can’t be arsed to play for us since Warnock left, Burgzorg and koroma are better on the wing. Hudlin is a million times worse than Rhodes and both Harratt and Simpson aren’t much better than Hudlin.
He won’t score 20 goals in the championship in this team, because we won’t create chances for him. But there’s no conversation as to whether he should be recalled and whether he should play for us, he is easily our best striker
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Post by willo on Dec 25, 2023 1:43:39 GMT 1
Regardless of whether Rhodes is good enough for this division or not, he walks in to our team. Ward can’t be arsed to play for us since Warnock left, Burgzorg and koroma are better on the wing. Hudlin is a million times worse than Rhodes and both Harratt and Simpson aren’t much better than Hudlin. He won’t score 20 goals in the championship in this team, because we won’t create chances for him. But there’s no conversation as to whether he should be recalled and whether he should play for us, he is easily our best striker Bang on. |
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Post by terrier10 on Dec 25, 2023 16:49:27 GMT 1
Nothing to lose by recalling JR, playing him until QPR (a), three games. If he's found wanting, sell him on. Not my preferred course, but it would prove folk right or wrong in their desire for a return. The problem with this is that he has played competitively for both Town and Blackpool this season and cannot be now registered to any other team. The only club we could sell him to and he be allowed to play would be Blackpool. |
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Post by omegasupreme on Dec 25, 2023 16:58:26 GMT 1
We are the 4th lowest scorers in the division. We have the chance to bring in the top scorer from the division below. I don't really understand how this is a question, get him straight back. There is no chance we are going to sign a player remotely as good as him with our recent transfer record. If we were linked with the top scorer in L1 and it wasn't Rhodes, we would all be getting a bit giddy. Reasons nobody is getting giddy: 1) He’s not done it with us for previous 2 years (or for past several years in Championship). 2) If we do bring him back, we know we won’t play to his strengths. |
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Post by dm on Dec 25, 2023 18:08:13 GMT 1
We are the 4th lowest scorers in the division. We have the chance to bring in the top scorer from the division below. I don't really understand how this is a question, get him straight back. There is no chance we are going to sign a player remotely as good as him with our recent transfer record. If we were linked with the top scorer in L1 and it wasn't Rhodes, we would all be getting a bit giddy. I wouldn't be excited about an almost 34 year old who hasn't scored regularly at Championship level for not far off a decade. |
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 25, 2023 19:12:40 GMT 1
If we were linked with the top scorer in L1 and it wasn't Rhodes, we would all be getting a bit giddy. I wouldn't be excited about an almost 34 year old who hasn't scored regularly at Championship level for not far off a decade. Yeah, but these are Town fans we're talking about. Some were excited about the signing of Will Boyle ffs 😂 |
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 26, 2023 1:31:18 GMT 1
Nothing to lose by recalling JR, playing him until QPR (a), three games. If he's found wanting, sell him on. Not my preferred course, but it would prove folk right or wrong in their desire for a return. Sell him on?! Which club is buying a 33yo who can’t play for anyone other than Blackpool or Town this season and is out of contract at the end of the season 🤷♂️😂 |
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Post by westislandterrier on Dec 26, 2023 1:49:35 GMT 1
HTAFC could do worse than test the water with a bid for Lawerence Shankland of Hearts...
This guy scores goals for fun wherever he has played -
Ok The Championship is night and day in comparison to The Scottish Premier League but still...
But he’d still need some sort of service to do a business at which he’s very decent at !
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Post by ram on Dec 26, 2023 10:59:40 GMT 1
HTAFC could do worse than test the water with a bid for Lawerence Shankland of Hearts... This guy scores goals for fun wherever he has played - Ok The Championship is night and day in comparison to The Scottish Premier League but still... But he’d still need some sort of service to do a business at which he’s very decent at ! I said this on the transfer thread Westie. |
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Post by rocky on Dec 26, 2023 11:03:05 GMT 1
So, a Championship quality striker plus a good option from the bench isn’t success compared to where we are now in strikers!? Think we’ll have to agree to disagree. Why are people obsessed with bringing a striker back that hasn't been good enough for the three years he's been here? We might as well bring back Tyreece Simpson as another "good option from the bench". This is my 3rd post in this thread, whereas you're literally all over it. I'll leave others to decide who's obsessing!  Sorry, but you lose all credibility with that comment about Simpson. The only issue with JR is does he improve the striking options we already have which he clearly does. No one is suggesting he should be the only striker we bring in, but given that we've been playing plenty of games with NO striker, it's crazy not to have OUR own player available for us! That said, I've already made it clear we need more than just him, it's never been JR OR someone else for me, its both. |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 26, 2023 11:29:14 GMT 1
HTAFC could do worse than test the water with a bid for Lawerence Shankland of Hearts... This guy scores goals for fun wherever he has played - Ok The Championship is night and day in comparison to The Scottish Premier League but still... But he’d still need some sort of service to do a business at which he’s very decent at ! Except in Belgium 😉 |
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 26, 2023 11:57:14 GMT 1
Why are people obsessed with bringing a striker back that hasn't been good enough for the three years he's been here? We might as well bring back Tyreece Simpson as another "good option from the bench". This is my 3rd post in this thread, whereas you're literally all over it. I'll leave others to decide who's obsessing! Sorry, but you lose all credibility with that comment about Simpson. The only issue with JR is does he improve the striking options we already have which he clearly does. No one is suggesting he should be the only striker we bring in, but given that we've been playing plenty of games with NO striker, it's crazy not to have OUR own player available for us! That said, I've already made it clear we need more than just him, it's never been JR OR someone else for me, its both. Simpson was supposed to be the saviour last season 😂 He's about as much use in the Championship as Rhodes will be, so we might as well bring him back as well. Like you said, an option off the bench. |
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Post by terryya on Dec 26, 2023 12:10:05 GMT 1
Regardless of whether Rhodes is good enough for this division or not, he walks in to our team. Ward can’t be arsed to play for us since Warnock left, Burgzorg and koroma are better on the wing. Hudlin is a million times worse than Rhodes and both Harratt and Simpson aren’t much better than Hudlin. He won’t score 20 goals in the championship in this team, because we won’t create chances for him. But there’s no conversation as to whether he should be recalled and whether he should play for us, he is easily our best striker 100% this. Should a championship team want 2024 Jordan Rhodes in its starting 11. No Does a team that has started games with Harratt and Hudlin want 2024 Jordan Rhodes in the starting 11. Yes |
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