New Stoppage Time Rules

[runner76]

Seems dumb to me?

Crazy that games will go on for so long and vary so much.

www.firstpost.com/sports/football-news/explained-what-is-the-stoppage-time-rule-change-guardiola-varane-de-bruyne-12976972.html

They either need to work out how long an actual game is (which is NOT 90 mins......) and reduce the length of time the actual played game is (what is it? 50/60/70 mins?!?) and stop the clock when play stops....this I DO NOT want....and seems the way it is headed

OR

in my mind, why not just keep the 'match' 90 mins but have a pre-defined added time that falls into a bracket, like :

Actual play stopped time 3-5 mins = 1 min added time
Actual play stopped time 5-7 mins = 3 min added time
Actual play stopped time 7 min + mins = 5 min added time

Or something like that? So we do not get stupid extra time?? Surely it is fair?

[themanfromatlantis]

Aug 10, 2023 11:51:00 GMT 1 runner76 said:

Seems dumb to me?

Crazy that games will go on for so long and vary so much.

www.firstpost.com/sports/football-news/explained-what-is-the-stoppage-time-rule-change-guardiola-varane-de-bruyne-12976972.html

They either need to work out how long an actual game is (which is NOT 90 mins......) and reduce the length of time the actual played game is (what is it? 50/60/70 mins?!?) and stop the clock when play stops....this I DO NOT want....and seems the way it is headed

OR

in my mind, why not just keep the 'match' 90 mins but have a pre-defined added time that falls into a bracket, like :

Actual play stopped time 3-5 mins = 1 min added time
Actual play stopped time 5-7 mins = 3 min added time
Actual play stopped time 7 min + mins = 5 min added time

Or something like that? So we do not get stupid extra time?? Surely it is fair?

Not sure that's fair?

If someone is genuinely injured & the game stops for 5-7 mins they get 3 mins added on? So players would know that they can also feign injury for that same 5-7 mins & know they've burnt up between 2-4 mins of game time. You'd also have the situation where the physios are out there timing their magic sponge efforts. 

It's the Refs & the authorities that just need to crack down on the cheating, give them 90 seconds to get back on their feet when it seems obvious they're putting it on, and if they don't then just re-start the game around the player and physio like they do in RL. If it's a genuinely bad injury they would halt the game accordingly and add on the time taken.

There's actually a lot of things that officialdom could learn from both codes of Rugby, respect for the officials decision being one of them. 

[Million Dollar Babies]

I like this new rule. I see they're all whining about the calendar already being too demanding and they're now having to play for 20 minutes longer. If they stop time wasting and feigning injury then there won't be much added on

[rockwall]

Agree with the above. This new rule is fine with me.

Don't see what a 30 minute half would do? The ball will still go out of play. Players will still go down. We would see even less football.

I would say, that if a player goes down, they have to leave the field for 2 minutes. If they are genuinely hurt, at least they can be assessed and treated. If they are feigning, they are leaving their team with 10 men for 2 minutes.

[Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier]

Aug 10, 2023 12:27:09 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

I like this new rule. I see they're all whining about the calendar already being too demanding and they're now having to play for 20 minutes longer. If they stop time wasting and feigning injury then there won't be much added on

The two games I’ve been to this season had 21 minutes and 17 minutes added times in total. Admittedly I’ve seen 10 goals including 2 penalties and a sending off, plus substitutions, but I genuinely think there’s been less obvious time wasting or feigning injury than I saw all too often last season.

I do think the referee/4th official are overdoing it at present, but hopefully things will settle down. I’m cautiously optimistic that the new rules are helping reduce cheating from what I’ve seen, so far.

[themanfromatlantis]

Aug 10, 2023 12:29:33 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Agree with the above. This new rule is fine with me.

Don't see what a 30 minute half would do? The ball will still go out of play. Players will still go down. We would see even less football.

I would say, that if a player goes down, they have to leave the field for 2 minutes. If they are genuinely hurt, at least they can be assessed and treated. If they are feigning, they are leaving their team with 10 men for 2 minutes.

I believe a player gets waved back on 30 seconds after the re-start now, as opposed to immediately before. I'd be happy to have that extended to at least a minute, but 2 mins feels a bit harsh for the times a player is genuinely being treated off the pitch. It'll start feeling like a mini sin-bin offence.

They just need to stop the blatant cheating and enforce the rules properly, but the authorities don't actually want that because they're worried it takes away the airtime they get from everyone moaning about controversial decisions.

Football & stopping cheating? I think the horse bolted on that one about 40-50 years ago...  

[townarentbest]

Aug 10, 2023 12:29:33 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Agree with the above. This new rule is fine with me.

Don't see what a 30 minute half would do? The ball will still go out of play. Players will still go down. We would see even less football.

I would say, that if a player goes down, they have to leave the field for 2 minutes. If they are genuinely hurt, at least they can be assessed and treated. If they are feigning, they are leaving their team with 10 men for 2 minutes.

Yup, the new rule that players leaving pitch for treatment can't return for AT LEAST 30 seconds doesn't go far enough - although 2mins might be too much of a 'punishment' for example someones had to go off, wipe some blood and stick the gunk on and is ready to reappear in 10seconds...I'd like 1minute though - and stick a 1minute blood-bin clock up on the screen so the fans that haven't kept up with changes don't spend time ranting at refs to allow players back on!

[dm]

Have a timekeeper to time the actual duration of play. It could even be the 4th official or VAR official. They determine when the 90 minutes are up. Never mind the (e.g.) 90+8 bollocks

[deepc]

Aug 10, 2023 12:47:31 GMT 1 townarentbest said:

Aug 10, 2023 12:29:33 GMT 1 rockwall said:

Agree with the above. This new rule is fine with me.

Don't see what a 30 minute half would do? The ball will still go out of play. Players will still go down. We would see even less football.

I would say, that if a player goes down, they have to leave the field for 2 minutes. If they are genuinely hurt, at least they can be assessed and treated. If they are feigning, they are leaving their team with 10 men for 2 minutes.

Yup, the new rule that players leaving pitch for treatment can't return for AT LEAST 30 seconds doesn't go far enough - although 2mins might be too much of a 'punishment' for example someones had to go off, wipe some blood and stick the gunk on and is ready to reappear in 10seconds...I'd like 1minute though - and stick a 1minute blood-bin clock up on the screen so the fans that haven't kept up with changes don't spend time ranting at refs to allow players back on!

I think the new system is for 30 seconds of playing time.So,if the ball goes out of play or there is another stoppage, then the player has to wait longer for his 30 seconds to be up.This was the case with Ward on Saturday and confused the hell out of around us. I would be happier with 2 minutes off the park for assessment- no big deal for a genuine injury but a deterrent to the cheats.I hope the refs are strict with this , then the players will see that they can’t get away with having a lie down holding their heads when they want to wind the clock down or break play up.
Hopefully the players get the message after see a few sendings off for someone who picks up two daft bookings and it all calms down in time for Christmas.

[runner76]

...maybe I am just an old fart who likes it as it was in t' olden days....

[sabailand]

We've scored two of our three goals this season during time added on (still lost both games), later in the season when we concede important goals very late in time added on which we surely will i dont think we'll be as enthusiastic

[leroy212]

Screws Nicholls over though, will be playing for hours with his s**thousery

[yappledapple]

Interesting discussion between Howard Webb (who is very patient and thorough throughout the whole discussion!) with GN and JC outlining the thought processes and implementation of the new refereeing rules…

[28901]

I want goals on 95th minute to be a rare joy or sickening blow.
Not with another 6 minutes still left to play.
Its shit, to me the game is 90 mins. They should crack down on cheating and time wasting. Maybe stop the clock between goals and restarts, at least when it gets to 90 you think you've cracked it

[htafcokay]

There's a simple solution, stop timewasting and fucking about and there won't be loads of time added on.

I've always been embarrassed by Nicholls' antics and to me, that isn't football.

There's a bit of a difference between kicking it into the corner in the 94th minute compared to timewasting after 60 minutes like what Nicholls did/does.

Sooner it's clamped out across the game the better.

[Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier]

In the three games I’ve been to so far I’d say there has been a genuine reduction in play acting and pretending to be injured, and time wasting in general. Last weekend saw generally significantly less time added to games than the first week of games, so, based on what I’ve seen myself, I’d say the new rules seem to be working.

[runner76]

Still can’t see these extended stoppage time amounts adding anything at all to the game.

Should be capped at whatever it is at end of game. Maximum not minimum!

[utttrooper]

Apr 13, 2024 18:19:36 GMT 1 runner76 said:

Still can’t see these extended stoppage time amounts adding anything at all to the game.

Should be capped at whatever it is at end of game. Maximum not minimum!

There were 2 injuries but Helik's I thought was before the 90 was up and there's was a bullshit one

[runner76]

Just seems ambiguous to me. Why not just have a set amount regardless if the non playing time based on actual stoppages or just take 10 mins off the 90 and actually stop the clock like basketball?


Or just don’t try and fix as was not broken