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Post by durhamterrier on Oct 21, 2023 21:19:14 GMT 1
Tough game that didn’t need to be in the end .
Really good link up play between our attacking players in first 20 mins but it all just dropped bizarrely.
Thought Helik was fantastic throughout as was Pearson again .
Ref poor for me . Very erratic with decisions for both teams . Their number 10, Chair, was a good little player but an absolute helmet .
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Post by jakeg on Oct 21, 2023 21:23:55 GMT 1
Is it too late for Helik to play in the Premier League? I certainly think he’s at least on a par with plenty who do. He's been immense lately....I haven't seen back that scramble yet where he saved a certain goal but, even that aside, he just commanded, made good decisions and is decent on the ball. He's just a very very good defender and leader
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Post by 28901 on Oct 21, 2023 21:26:33 GMT 1
Which bit, the bit where we're worse under Moore than Warnock or the bit where we were a bit shite today? The bit where you admit to coming from scabland
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Post by rothwellterrier on Oct 21, 2023 21:26:40 GMT 1
Is it too late for Helik to play in the Premier League? I certainly think he’s at least on a par with plenty who do. He's been immense lately....I haven't seen back that scramble yet where he saved a certain goal but, even that aside, he just commanded, made good decisions and is decent on the ball. He's just a very very good defender and leader Here you go.
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Post by jakeg on Oct 21, 2023 21:27:17 GMT 1
Tough game that didn’t need to be in the end . Really good link up play between our attacking players in first 20 mins but it all just dropped bizarrely. Thought Helik was fantastic throughout as was Pearson again . Ref poor for me . Very erratic with decisions for both teams . Their number 10, Chair, was a good little player but an absolute helmet . QPR seem to be a real one man team on that performance. Chair was about the only one I constantly worried when he had the ball but thought we played him well....didn't dive in and didn't give him the chance he needed. Pearson defends well but wish he didn't pass to him so much at the back....gives me kittens everytime!!
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Post by jakeg on Oct 21, 2023 21:28:52 GMT 1
He's been immense lately....I haven't seen back that scramble yet where he saved a certain goal but, even that aside, he just commanded, made good decisions and is decent on the ball. He's just a very very good defender and leader Here you go. Thanks! It was one of those times live when you saw the ball come back off the post to their bloke and groaned. Wow...
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Post by 28901 on Oct 21, 2023 21:31:04 GMT 1
Is it too late for Helik to play in the Premier League? I certainly think he’s at least on a par with plenty who do. He's been immense lately....I haven't seen back that scramble yet where he saved a certain goal but, even that aside, he just commanded, made good decisions and is decent on the ball. He's just a very very good defender and leader Our best player by a mile
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Post by bluesandtwos on Oct 21, 2023 21:31:23 GMT 1
I think Tom Lees comment about being desperate for the win had a lot to do with pressing the pause button. If we were up in the top 10 teams we would probably have just kept at them but after an excellent start, probably the best spell of football by us this season, the old worries seemed to creep back in. We went from being on the front foot and looking full of confidence to trying to stop them, and we seemed to get worse until the subs were made. We struggled to win battles and our off the ball movement was really poor, especially when attacking. I am sure that will be analysed and addressed but it is concerning how little confidence the team seem to have. I think it was a big ask of Koroma to play the wing back role. Pearson was backing Sorba up but Koroma was left pretty much on his own. Their main threats did come down our right so that may have been a plan. I still don't think Moore has quite got the formation or the players right, and I agree the subs should have been sooner. I hope the players can see what they can do and try more of the good stuff and less of the dropping deep. Cardiff will be a tougher test but if we can get another 3 points they may start to play a little easier.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2023 21:36:21 GMT 1
Which bit, the bit where we're worse under Moore than Warnock or the bit where we were a bit shite today? Good job the creative players showed up. That happened under Warnock too. Birmingham H Reading H Millwall A WBA A All games under Warnock where if it wasn't for out creative players we wouldn't have won.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2023 21:38:36 GMT 1
We came 3rd in the league and and got to the play off final at Wembley, after that the manager/coach left in the summer ( the jury is out on if he was sacked or left on his own free will). We definitely made the team poorer and had to bring in Warmock to rescue us from relegation. If we go back to the Premiership years we can see a succession of sacked managers and the first team generally getting poorer and poorer. Corberan chose to leave. We weren't in a position of strength when Wagner left we were in the decline. Warnock arrested the decline and was moving us forward but over the last 4/5 games we've regressed again 1 defeat in 5, but yeah we have regressed Moore by the way has more points than Warnock in his first 5 games.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 21, 2023 21:45:38 GMT 1
Corberan chose to leave. We weren't in a position of strength when Wagner left we were in the decline. Warnock arrested the decline and was moving us forward but over the last 4/5 games we've regressed again 1 defeat in 5, but yeah we have regressed Moore by the way has more points than Warnock in his first 5 games. If you think the football under Moore is better, you need Specsavers.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2023 21:50:00 GMT 1
1 defeat in 5, but yeah we have regressed Moore by the way has more points than Warnock in his first 5 games. If you think the football under Moore is better, you need Specsavers. Once again, never said that. End of the day it is a results business. Can't deny the facts. I preferred Warnock to Corberan. But Corberan got us to a play off final.
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Post by Terriersmad on Oct 21, 2023 21:57:42 GMT 1
The way I see it, there are two huge positives to come out of the game. Firstly, we won despite a poor performance (and even then you have to consider that we were 2-0 up before our standards slipped hugely). Secondly, we've been taking points off those who many expect to be around us - which we didn't last season. These are the games we lost.
I did think the team selection was strange - particularly Koroma at left wing-back - as it left us with a right-footed left side. But I also think we've shown in patches what we can do and unlike others I'm prepared to give Moore time. The guy's inherited a(nother) unbalanced squad with either injuries or lack of personnel in certain positions, and he's also taken over from a folk hero. Give the guy a chance, for goodness sake. The knives are out after 5 games where, even if performances have been patchy, we've been tough to beat and taken points we'd expect to get. Give him the transfer window at the very, very least.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 21, 2023 22:00:16 GMT 1
Which bit, the bit where we're worse under Moore than Warnock or the bit where we were a bit shite today? Good job the creative players showed up. That happened under Warnock too. Birmingham H Reading H Millwall A WBA A All games under Warnock where if it wasn't for out creative players we wouldn't have won. I didn't say they didn't under Warnock? Wednesday away 0-0 atrocious Birmingham 4-1 Helik Ispwich 1-1 Burg good goal tbf Cov 1-1 Helik Today was the first time under Moore the front four(ish) have looked good together and that was for 15 mins against one of the worst defences I've seen. Once QPR bucked up we didn't have a chance. Two shots on target.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 21, 2023 22:00:36 GMT 1
Hudlin was far superior to Harrat in winning the ball and keeping it. Apart from his very well taken goal Harratt was poor today. He just doesn't jump Today he was getting grappled by the centre half and struggled physically and to get off the floor, which he has done to some degree pretty often tbh. Struggling with battling centre halves in the championship at the moment, he needs to find a way to impose himself. The QPR centre halves just jumped at our centre backs but I’m not sure we’d be able to bring our own ref.
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Post by wigster on Oct 21, 2023 22:03:39 GMT 1
I presume that Ben Wiles is miles away from being fit - he was once again blowing out of his backside early in both halfs.
Additionally his body language suggests that he is a very unhappy player - something is obviously wrong, and whatever it is needs sorting as soon as possible. He's getting worse by the week.
On another note, oh for a striker !!!
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Post by wigster on Oct 21, 2023 22:04:54 GMT 1
Today he was getting grappled by the centre half and struggled physically and to get off the floor, which he has done to some degree pretty often tbh. Struggling with battling centre halves in the championship at the moment, he needs to find a way to impose himself. The QPR centre halves just jumped at our centre backs but I’m not sure we’d be able to bring our own ref. Agreed, he doesn't jump, but he's bloody good at pointing and telling the other players where they should be ...
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2023 22:05:04 GMT 1
Good job the creative players showed up. That happened under Warnock too. Birmingham H Reading H Millwall A WBA A All games under Warnock where if it wasn't for out creative players we wouldn't have won. I didn't say they didn't under Warnock? Wednesday away 0-0 atrocious Birmingham 4-1 Helik Ispwich 1-1 Burg good goal tbf Cov 1-1 Helik Today was the first time under Moore the front four(ish) have looked good together and that was for 15 mins against one of the worst defences I've seen. Once QPR bucked up we didn't have a chance. Two shots on target. 4 shots on target....
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Post by mids on Oct 21, 2023 22:05:25 GMT 1
He's been immense lately....I haven't seen back that scramble yet where he saved a certain goal but, even that aside, he just commanded, made good decisions and is decent on the ball. He's just a very very good defender and leader Our best player by a mile Rudoni? Helik has been decent though...
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2023 22:06:38 GMT 1
Our best player by a mile Rudoni? Helik has been decent though... Like last season. Our best 2 players by a mile. Both are consistent. Helik more so. Wouldn't suprise me if both ended up in PL.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 21, 2023 22:06:49 GMT 1
Thanks! It was one of those times live when you saw the ball come back off the post to their bloke and groaned. Wow... Hard to believe, absolutely incredible clearance by Helik
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Oct 21, 2023 22:09:14 GMT 1
First and foremost we go to football to be entertained. Chuck as much money at music, food etc but if we are sitting on a lead after 15 minutes then fans won't be entertained. TEAM first and everything else will follow. He can't fix the 'atmosphere' until January end of.
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Post by mids on Oct 21, 2023 22:12:14 GMT 1
Rudoni? Helik has been decent though... Like last season. Our best 2 players by a mile. Both are consistent. Helik more so. Wouldn't suprise me if both ended up in PL. Rudoni has improved immeasurably since last season, and is playing fantastically well...and scoring goals. Helik is deceptive. He looks slow and lumbers about, but he seems to win most challenges. Two rocks of the team, along with Nicholls. It'd be nice to have two or three more. One player who always impresses is Headley. Given more game time this season he could be an asset.
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Post by mids on Oct 21, 2023 22:13:24 GMT 1
First and foremost we go to football to be entertained. Chuck as much money at music, food etc but if we are sitting on a lead after 15 minutes then fans won't be entertained. TEAM first and everything else will follow. He can't fix the 'atmosphere' until January end of. Bring back the clappers
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 22:30:16 GMT 1
Rudoni? Helik has been decent though... Like last season. Our best 2 players by a mile. Both are consistent. Helik more so. Wouldn't suprise me if both ended up in PL. Go to bed, Darren. The team won despite your crazy tactics.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 22:34:34 GMT 1
If you think the football under Moore is better, you need Specsavers. Once again, never said that. End of the day it is a results business. Can't deny the facts. I preferred Warnock to Corberan. But Corberan got us to a play off final. Lol... penis.
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Post by irverino on Oct 21, 2023 22:42:57 GMT 1
You have to beat the shit around/below you (especially at home) or you end up relegated, we have 7 points from current bottom 3 in our total of 14 from 12 played (just over quarter of season), question now is can we take enough points off other teams?......Cardiff were pointless today after a long trip up North, we have to send them back down empty handed & also hope QPR don't find a decent manager after todays showing.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 21, 2023 22:44:41 GMT 1
You'd think we were in the playoff places when Warnock left reading some of the comments on here. We had 8 points from 7 games and had some stinkers under him this season.
Moore has had 5 games so far and got 6 points with some stinkers aswell.
We all knew before the season started that the squad wasn't strong enough to be competing at the top 3rd of the table and so it's proving. We've got a bottom 5 budget, a win on Tuesday and we could be midtable.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 21, 2023 22:44:47 GMT 1
Like last season. Our best 2 players by a mile. Both are consistent. Helik more so. Wouldn't suprise me if both ended up in PL. Go to bed, Darren. The team won despite of your crazy tactics. Even though that's the first post of his I've agreed with since Colin got sacked 🤔
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 21, 2023 22:46:42 GMT 1
You'd think we were in the playoff places when Warnock left reading some of the comments on here. We had 8 points from 7 games and had some stinkers under him this season. Moore has had 5 games so far and got 6 points with some stinkers aswell. We all knew before the season started that the squad wasn't strong enough to be competing at the top 3rd of the table and so it's proving. We've got a bottom 5 budget, a win on Tuesday and we could be midtable. Apart from 60 mins v Ipswich and 15 mins today all we've had is stinkers in his games in charge.
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