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Post by Detective Boyle on Oct 21, 2023 20:06:44 GMT 1
Really wouldn’t think we’d won reading this board would you? The problems we had today are ones we have had for years and haven’t been addressed, so I don’t really get the overly negative reaction to 3 points today. Every win is a great win in this league and can boost confidence and get you on a run. We know we are limited quality wise but let’s celebrate every win we get until we get to January and we can improve the squad.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 21, 2023 20:09:05 GMT 1
I'm really hoping that the way we played in the first 15 minutes is the way Moore wants us to play, and the players reverted to type to protect a result. To be fair to Moore, for a short period at the start of the game, we looked to have changed the way we play. Far less long balls from the back, and some encouraging combinations further up the pitch. I was hopeful that we could carry this on throughout the game, but sadly we reverted to the tired old tactic of sitting deep and kicking the ball away. Hopefully as the games progress we will see more of the first 15 mins and less of the rest of the game. 🤞 To be fair to Moore he said as much post match
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 21, 2023 20:09:39 GMT 1
Has a club ever sacked a manager from a position of strength and worsened the team.
That was unwatchable at times and Moore is lucky that our creative players turned up (once in a blue moon) and QPR can't defend
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Post by prepare on Oct 21, 2023 20:15:26 GMT 1
Has a club ever sacked a manager from a position of strength and worsened the team. That was unwatchable at times and Moore is lucky that our creative players turned up (once in a blue moon) and QPR can't defend give it a rest
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2023 20:15:46 GMT 1
So many jumping on a win today.
I really do not get it.
Admitted, subs and tactics were bizarre when we went 2-0 up.
Bottom line is. We won. Some of you must be boring to be around.
It wasn't great from 20 minutes onwards, we have played better and drawn or lost. Surely tonight, accept we won, vital 3 points against a team below us and enjoy your weekend.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2023 20:16:10 GMT 1
Has a club ever sacked a manager from a position of strength and worsened the team. That was unwatchable at times and Moore is lucky that our creative players turned up (once in a blue moon) and QPR can't defend Moron.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 21, 2023 20:18:08 GMT 1
You'd have thought we lost badly. It wasn't great but we won and have three more precious points. We've played better and lost. Enjoy and lighten up Town fans
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Post by goodbet on Oct 21, 2023 20:21:14 GMT 1
Thoroughly depressing win. A masterclass in how not to react to going 2-0 up in 15 minutes. Koroma at left back was a particular delight. Moore is clueless. To be fair. Moore said it wasn't good enough afterwards as well. I think that most of us could see that it was not good enough during the game. Why did it take until the 67th min to make the first substitution? The second one was made after 75 min! and then 2 on the 82nd min. To me this shows that DM was happy with the way we were playing and he was just bringing on fresh legs to see out the game. I just don't think that a professional manager/coach could not see that we were playing poorly. I don't think that what managers/coaches say before or after the match have to have any resemblance to what he thinks or believes, they are just trying to put on a front to the owners and fans. So I don't pay much notice to his comment about working out what happened on Monday.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 21, 2023 20:24:21 GMT 1
Has anything been said about Wiles? What's up with him is he useless or is it just he's just completely unfit? One of the reasons we ended playing deeper was his fitness. Playing with the wingbacks high up the pitch. Relies on the midfield being able to drift across and cover. As soon as Wiles was blowing out of his arse. Both Thomas and Koroma had to play deeper. The midfield was nonexistent today. Despite Hogg and Rudoni putting a shift in. They had to carry the third man. As for Burgzorg he's more a liability than a threat to the opposition. 100% correct. Dreadful footballer, and certainly not a team-player - won't pass, constantly caught in possession, and looks uninterested without the ball. I've seen enough. That said, he'll probably score the winner next time out! 😄
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 21, 2023 20:25:22 GMT 1
We have a bang average squad, we brought virtually nobody in in the summer transfer window, we have no recognised striker/centre forward with experience, we got rid of the only manager I know of who could get us results with this group of players and had us doing the basics correctly. The only outcome in my mind is another season of struggle with the possibility of relegation. We were decent for the first 15 today but sat back and the inevitable happened against a poor side at odds with each other. The 3 points are obviously welcome but a better side would have beaten us and I can see us getting a right caning next Saturday unfortunately. I wonder who he'll blame then
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Post by ACW on Oct 21, 2023 20:28:26 GMT 1
So many jumping on a win today. I really do not get it. Admitted, subs and tactics were bizarre when we went 2-0 up. Bottom line is. We won. Some of you must be boring to be around. It wasn't great from 20 minutes onwards, we have played better and drawn or lost. Surely tonight, accept we won, vital 3 points against a team below us and enjoy your weekend. Are we not allowed to dissect the performance? Isn't that what a discussion board is for?
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 21, 2023 20:29:40 GMT 1
Thoroughly depressing win. A masterclass in how not to react to going 2-0 up in 15 minutes. Koroma at left back was a particular delight. Moore is clueless. To be fair. Moore said it wasn't good enough afterwards as well. He's in charge. It's down to him to change it.
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Oct 21, 2023 20:30:30 GMT 1
The lack of patience on here is crazy, it always takes a period of time for the players to get used to the manager and for the manager to get his ideas across. Spoke to Nathan Clarke today and he agreed, it’s impossible to see consistent improvent immediately, life doesn’t work like that. Run of the mill managers, it takes a while to become average. We will never massively outperform our budget with Boore. I'm sure he's a lovely bloke, but if he didn't give the instruction to sit in and that message was relayed by Pearson to Koroma, then that suggests to me he isn't capable of running our football club and as I saw on the full time video for Wednesday at Wembley he doesn't command the respect of the players. That means one of the players made that decision on the pitch, probably Hogg but could have been someone else. When the captain is running tactics at professional level then what's the point in boore? May as well stay at home. The stuff he says In his press conferences are like soundbites excusing his own weakness'. How I see Darren is someone that will get to the players to play to their level, but not capable of rational decision or plan without alot of time to contemplate it, he doesn't have the IQ to recognise in game changes that need making. I'd accept that if I was him and employ a coach to run in game situations/tactics and Substitutions as that's what's going to keep getting him the sack. Wagner made an immediate impact, Just kindly fuck off you absolute weapon. Stick to inventing transfer rumours you cockwomble. For as long as you call him Boore, I shall call you Townrwefucktheshitoffyoumelt. Prick
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Post by goodbet on Oct 21, 2023 20:33:33 GMT 1
Has a club ever sacked a manager from a position of strength and worsened the team. That was unwatchable at times and Moore is lucky that our creative players turned up (once in a blue moon) and QPR can't defend We came 3rd in the league and and got to the play off final at Wembley, after that the manager/coach left in the summer ( the jury is out on if he was sacked or left on his own free will). We definitely made the team poorer and had to bring in Warmock to rescue us from relegation. If we go back to the Premiership years we can see a succession of sacked managers and the first team generally getting poorer and poorer.
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Post by goodbet on Oct 21, 2023 20:37:37 GMT 1
Has a club ever sacked a manager from a position of strength and worsened the team. That was unwatchable at times and Moore is lucky that our creative players turned up (once in a blue moon) and QPR can't defend We came 3rd in the league and and got to the play off final at Wembley, after that the manager/coach left in the summer ( the jury is out on if he was sacked or left on his own free will). We definitely made the team poorer and had to bring in Warmock to rescue us from relegation. I think that we could go back through the managers and teams since we were in the Premiership amd we have had a succession of sacked managers and a long run of generally poorer and then poorer teams as the owner tried to get his money back.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 21, 2023 20:42:02 GMT 1
Has anything been said about Wiles? What's up with him is he useless or is it just he's just completely unfit? One of the reasons we ended playing deeper was his fitness. Playing with the wingbacks high up the pitch. Relies on the midfield being able to drift across and cover. As soon as Wiles was blowing out of his arse. Both Thomas and Koroma had to play deeper. The midfield was nonexistent today. Despite Hogg and Rudoni putting a shift in. They had to carry the third man. As for Burgzorg he's more a liability than a threat to the opposition. 100% correct. Dreadful footballer, and certainly not a team-player - won't pass, constantly caught in possession, and looks uninterested without the ball. I've seen enough. That said, he'll probably score the winner next time out! 😄 I said to my mate as annoying he is, one minute he'll be crap the next minute he'll be lashing it in to the top corner in spectacular fashion.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 21, 2023 20:42:03 GMT 1
So many jumping on a win today. I really do not get it. Admitted, subs and tactics were bizarre when we went 2-0 up. Bottom line is. We won. Some of you must be boring to be around. It wasn't great from 20 minutes onwards, we have played better and drawn or lost. Surely tonight, accept we won, vital 3 points against a team below us and enjoy your weekend. Are we not allowed to dissect the performance? Isn't that what a discussion board is for? That is not what I am saying. We won. 3 Points.. enjoy it. I said it wasn't great... But I am enjoying a win.
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Post by Macduff on Oct 21, 2023 20:50:39 GMT 1
Didn't play well after the first 15 minutes. Got 3 points, I'm not complaining, but hope for 90 minutes of what we saw in the first 15 minutes on Tuesday. UTT
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 21, 2023 20:51:05 GMT 1
Are we not allowed to dissect the performance? Isn't that what a discussion board is for? That is not what I am saying. We won. 3 Points.. enjoy it. I said it wasn't great... But I am enjoying a win. Might as well, cos if this bugger stays in charge there'll be precious few of them.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 21, 2023 20:52:04 GMT 1
100% correct. Dreadful footballer, and certainly not a team-player - won't pass, constantly caught in possession, and looks uninterested without the ball. I've seen enough. That said, he'll probably score the winner next time out! 😄 I said to my mate as annoying he is, one minute he'll be crap the next minute he'll be lashing it in to the top corner in spectacular fashion. He’s interesting to watch, but if he was at least another 30% consistent with his good stuff, he wouldn’t be playing in our team. A definite Marmite player, but it’s the never knowing what’ll come next that makes him such an enigma.
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Post by sykeylad on Oct 21, 2023 20:52:16 GMT 1
That is not what I am saying. We won. 3 Points.. enjoy it. I said it wasn't great... But I am enjoying a win. Might as well, cos if this bugger stays in charge there'll be precious few of them. [b FFS
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Oct 21, 2023 20:52:42 GMT 1
Is this Boore thing on purpose? If so, why? Cos he's an unfunny prick But he tries ....
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 21, 2023 20:54:02 GMT 1
As I keep saying, anyone who keeps us up is doing a great job. We don’t have the players or squad to compete at this level.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 21, 2023 20:54:11 GMT 1
To be fair. Moore said it wasn't good enough afterwards as well. I think that most of us could see that it was not good enough during the game. Why did it take until the 67th min to make the first substitution? The second one was made after 75 min! and then 2 on the 82nd min. To me this shows that DM was happy with the way we were playing and he was just bringing on fresh legs to see out the game. I just don't think that a professional manager/coach could not see that we were playing poorly. I don't think that what managers/coaches say before or after the match have to have any resemblance to what he thinks or believes, they are just trying to put on a front to the owners and fans. So I don't pay much notice to his comment about working out what happened on Monday. I can only suggest he thought, with some justification, there was nothing on the bench to help him. Nakayama aside I can sympathise. Then he brought on Headley. I'm far from convinced, just clutching.
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Post by ACW on Oct 21, 2023 20:56:30 GMT 1
I said to my mate as annoying he is, one minute he'll be crap the next minute he'll be lashing it in to the top corner in spectacular fashion. He’s interesting to watch, but if he was at least another 30% consistent with his good stuff, he wouldn’t be playing in our team. A definite Marmite player, but it’s the never knowing what’ll come next that makes him such an enigma. He has ability, but no footballing brain. Takes far too many touches and doesn't know when to release the ball. I can accept those traits in a young footballer, but the concerning thing to me is that he's not learning. He doesn't seem to be working his weaknesses. I don't see him developing at the moment.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 21, 2023 20:57:05 GMT 1
Are we not allowed to dissect the performance? Isn't that what a discussion board is for? That is not what I am saying. We won. 3 Points.. enjoy it. I said it wasn't great... But I am enjoying a win. Me too but I'm sat at home with a beer half watching rugby and the rest are watching strictly.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 21, 2023 21:07:59 GMT 1
Has a club ever sacked a manager from a position of strength and worsened the team. That was unwatchable at times and Moore is lucky that our creative players turned up (once in a blue moon) and QPR can't defend We came 3rd in the league and and got to the play off final at Wembley, after that the manager/coach left in the summer ( the jury is out on if he was sacked or left on his own free will). We definitely made the team poorer and had to bring in Warmock to rescue us from relegation. If we go back to the Premiership years we can see a succession of sacked managers and the first team generally getting poorer and poorer. Corberan chose to leave. We weren't in a position of strength when Wagner left we were in the decline. Warnock arrested the decline and was moving us forward but over the last 4/5 games we've regressed again
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Post by boooothy on Oct 21, 2023 21:08:46 GMT 1
What’s Rhodes scoring got to do with anything? Pretty obvious, he should be here not there, we’re missing a striker. Warnock’s massive mistake. It is a massive mistake but not Warnock’s. He knew what tactics he was going to use and thought Rhodes brought nothing to that particular party. This new manager understandably hasn’t a Scooby Doo how to get the best out of this squad and having Rhodes would have been massive help while he figures it out. Rhodes leaving is the only evidence i need that no one thought Warnock was leaving.
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Post by boooothy on Oct 21, 2023 21:10:57 GMT 1
Is it too late for Helik to play in the Premier League? I certainly think he’s at least on a par with plenty who do.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 21, 2023 21:11:08 GMT 1
Has a club ever sacked a manager from a position of strength and worsened the team. That was unwatchable at times and Moore is lucky that our creative players turned up (once in a blue moon) and QPR can't defend Moron. Which bit, the bit where we're worse under Moore than Warnock or the bit where we were a bit shite today?
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