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Post by Will on Oct 30, 2023 1:24:53 GMT 1
If the owner is that daft/the admin at the club that inept frankly I’m too embarrassed to attend and don’t want to give you my money to do stupid things with.
For me the manager and players are a reflection of the owner and his management structure. Underinvest in players, but choose a Warnock - fine by me. Get some good footballers in and maybe a lesser managerial talent - that’s probably gonna work and I’ll watch with interest.
There’s no sense in combining player disposals with downgrading their manager.
I’m not going any more.
i do not see it as either DM’s fault, nor the players. Neither am I a Warnock fanboy, but the lack of investment made him indispensable this year, well until we had enough points on the board anyway.
Wish the on field guys and fellow fans and DM all the best.
Think I’ll decorate the house and spend a bit more time with the kids
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Post by durhamterrier on Oct 30, 2023 7:25:28 GMT 1
If the owner is that daft/the admin at the club that inept frankly I’m too embarrassed to attend and don’t want to give you my money to do stupid things with. For me the manager and players are a reflection of the owner and his management structure. Underinvest in players, but choose a Warnock - fine by me. Get some good footballers in and maybe a lesser managerial talent - that’s probably gonna work and I’ll watch with interest. There’s no sense in combining player disposals with downgrading their manager. I’m not going any more. i do not see it as either DM’s fault, nor the players. Neither am I a Warnock fanboy, but the lack of investment made him indispensable this year, well until we had enough points on the board anyway. Wish the on field guys and fellow fans and DM all the best. Think I’ll decorate the house and spend a bit more time with the kids In exactly the same boat , got a season ticket but right now I just don’t enjoy going . I’m not putting that solely at Darren Moore , it was the same under Fotheringham last year and I felt that way under Powell . I can take losing and I don’t expect us to be top 6 or 10 but I do expect to be watching a passionate manager and team competent at the level and we’ve not seen that. Warnock made us exciting again and the club did everything they could to ruin that . The clocks have turned , weather getting colder , family commitments coming up pre Christmas … I think the stadium will look emptier and emptier each home game if it carries on like this |
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Post by drewden on Oct 30, 2023 8:50:02 GMT 1
Missed Cardiff game due to work thank god, missed Leeds game due to lack of me being uninspired and lack of motivation, not like me, cannot be arsed for the Watford game, the lack of enthusiasm has drained me.
If the club are not bothered whats the point.
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Post by Sio on Oct 30, 2023 9:16:05 GMT 1
The only thing keeping me going (when I can) is being part of the CL - if it weren't for that, I'd have given up on this season entirely.
There isn't even a feeling of wanting to go to support the financial side of the club, or wanting to give the unfairly treated manager some support etc - it's just avoidable mistakes from top to bottom and I have no sympathy for anyone in power at the club right now.
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Post by ben1987 on Oct 30, 2023 9:17:44 GMT 1
The only thing keeping me going is being part of the CL - if it weren't for that, I'd have given up on this season entirely. There isn't even a feeling of wanting to go to support the financial side of the club, or wanting to give the unfairly treated manager some support etc - it's just avoidable mistakes from top to bottom and I have no sympathy for anyone in power at the club right now. Exact same reason for me. If the club thinks I’m investing my money and crucially, the forgotten part in renewal, my time into next season and beyond they’re mistaken. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 10:11:12 GMT 1
Same time on Saturday it is then
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Post by conman on Oct 30, 2023 11:06:10 GMT 1
We'll carry on going this season , SC's paid for . Depending what happens this season , relegation , same manager , same players , will determine whether we renew again next season . If DM hasn't gone by Christmas , I'll be very shocked..
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Post by swam4mwg on Oct 30, 2023 11:14:01 GMT 1
If the owner is that daft/the admin at the club that inept frankly I’m too embarrassed to attend and don’t want to give you my money to do stupid things with. For me the manager and players are a reflection of the owner and his management structure. Underinvest in players, but choose a Warnock - fine by me. Get some good footballers in and maybe a lesser managerial talent - that’s probably gonna work and I’ll watch with interest. There’s no sense in combining player disposals with downgrading their manager. I’m not going any more. i do not see it as either DM’s fault, nor the players. Neither am I a Warnock fanboy, but the lack of investment made him indispensable this year, well until we had enough points on the board anyway. Wish the on field guys and fellow fans and DM all the best. Think I’ll decorate the house and spend a bit more time with the kids I am of the belief that Warnock's job was not yet finished. Obvious to everyone except Town's ownership team who thought this squad was capable at this level. Good luck to Darren Moore , it is now a huge task. |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 30, 2023 11:15:30 GMT 1
All this talk about increasing revenue doesn’t make sense for a club like ours. The only real way to get some income is have more people attending games and paying/spending more to do so.
I know i’m in the minority but i’d happily pay twice the amount for season tickets if it was reflected on the pitch but crowds are going to reduce with every bad decision made and Town fans from experience don’t buy expensive season tickets anyway.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 30, 2023 11:17:08 GMT 1
This is us in a few weeks time… 😂
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Post by irverino on Oct 30, 2023 11:26:50 GMT 1
The amount of food that must have gone to waste/charities after the Cardiff match will surely have made a loss on outlay......Never seen the kiosk on halfway in KB so deserted at half time, it was quite eerie.
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Post by ACW on Oct 30, 2023 11:29:49 GMT 1
If the owner is that daft/the admin at the club that inept frankly I’m too embarrassed to attend and don’t want to give you my money to do stupid things with. For me the manager and players are a reflection of the owner and his management structure. Underinvest in players, but choose a Warnock - fine by me. Get some good footballers in and maybe a lesser managerial talent - that’s probably gonna work and I’ll watch with interest. There’s no sense in combining player disposals with downgrading their manager. I’m not going any more. i do not see it as either DM’s fault, nor the players. Neither am I a Warnock fanboy, but the lack of investment made him indispensable this year, well until we had enough points on the board anyway. Wish the on field guys and fellow fans and DM all the best. Think I’ll decorate the house and spend a bit more time with the kids In exactly the same boat , got a season ticket but right now I just don’t enjoy going . I’m not putting that solely at Darren Moore , it was the same under Fotheringham last year and I felt that way under Powell . I can take losing and I don’t expect us to be top 6 or 10 but I do expect to be watching a passionate manager and team competent at the level and we’ve not seen that. Warnock made us exciting again and the club did everything they could to ruin that . The clocks have turned , weather getting colder , family commitments coming up pre Christmas … I think the stadium will look emptier and emptier each home game if it carries on like this Warnock did an amazing job, but I'm not sure he made us, "exciting again". |
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Post by durhamterrier on Oct 30, 2023 11:45:02 GMT 1
In exactly the same boat , got a season ticket but right now I just don’t enjoy going . I’m not putting that solely at Darren Moore , it was the same under Fotheringham last year and I felt that way under Powell . I can take losing and I don’t expect us to be top 6 or 10 but I do expect to be watching a passionate manager and team competent at the level and we’ve not seen that. Warnock made us exciting again and the club did everything they could to ruin that . The clocks have turned , weather getting colder , family commitments coming up pre Christmas … I think the stadium will look emptier and emptier each home game if it carries on like this Warnock did an amazing job, but I'm not sure he made us, "exciting again". I think he made the match day experience exciting for town fans again |
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Post by detox on Oct 30, 2023 11:45:55 GMT 1
tbh my bubble burst after our relegation from the PL...no legacy, DH wanting out and his loans paid back..selling to potless who's job was to get rid of all the PL players... I haven't been to a game since the Cowleys and then of course covid came along and I got out of the habit.. even the Corberan era didn't entice me back, I didn't go to Wembley either...
I'll watch on a stream or ifollow, but attend a game..buy a SC ? nah. I'd being watching Town games since 1960 and never ever thought I'd not attend games..it was in my blood.Yes the 70's were a tough time but by then I was playing every saturday (and sunday).
Maybe the Wagner era was as good as it was ever going to be and everything after that was obviously less exciting, and still is .
Will I ever be enticed back ? Hard to say, but certainly not to watch what's been on offer in recent years...All very sad really.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 30, 2023 11:48:21 GMT 1
Sadly I agree - I've missed more games this season than I've been to despite having a season ticket. I haven't really minded either which is pretty telling
In the summer we massively underinvested and weakened the side even when you match up the ones we signed against some of the better ones who left
Maxwell or Vaslik? Vaslik for me
Wiles or Holmes? Wiles maybe but not convinced and Holmes is a very good player at this level so maybe a marginal one for Wiles
Burgozb or Hungbo? Hungbo for me
Edwards or Lowton - score draw ... both equally hopeless at this level and a waste of time/money
Then there's the 11 others who left the wage bill; Anjorin, Knockhart, Aarons, Daly, Camara, Grant. Crichlow. Schofield, Bilo, Boyle and Kambieri. Then the seven out on loan; High, Rowe, Rhodes, Mahoney, Phillips, Simpson, Spencer (last year we only had Ayina, Asterfield and Thomas on loan from the current squad)
That's a huge amount of "savings" but they've lost sight that this is the entertainment business. Watching your team uncompetitive and getting beat game after game is in no way enjoyable
I'm not even upset - just apathetic about the whole thing
If you run a team on a League One set up you deserve to be in League One
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 30, 2023 12:05:18 GMT 1
Sadly I agree - I've missed more games this season than I've been to despite having a season ticket. I haven't really minded either which is pretty telling In the summer we massively underinvested and weakened the side even when you match up the ones we signed against some of the better ones who left Maxwell or Vaslik? Vaslik for me Wiles or Holmes? Wiles maybe but not convinced and Holmes is a very good player at this level so maybe a marginal one for Wiles Burgozb or Hungbo? Hungbo for me Edwards or Lowton - score draw ... both equally hopeless at this level and a waste of time/money Then there's the 11 others who left the wage bill; Anjorin, Knockhart, Aarons, Daly, Camara, Grant. Crichlow. Schofield, Bilo, Boyle and Kambieri. Then the seven out on loan; High, Rowe, Rhodes, Mahoney, Phillips, Simpson, Spencer (last year we only had Ayina, Asterfield and Thomas on loan from the current squad) That's a huge amount of "savings" but they've lost sight that this is the entertainment business. Watching your team uncompetitive and getting beat game after game is in no way enjoyable I'm not even upset - just apathetic about the whole thing If you run a team on a League One set up you deserve to be in League OneNot sure we're even a League One set-up. Our wage bill must be incredibly low compared to other clubs. |
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Post by ACW on Oct 30, 2023 12:27:18 GMT 1
Warnock did an amazing job, but I'm not sure he made us, "exciting again". I think he made the match day experience exciting for town fans again I think that's a fair point. We all believed in Warnock, and had genuine optimism before each game that we had a good chance of getting a result. The football was not always great, but he brought that belief back without a doubt. Could do with a bit of that now. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Oct 30, 2023 12:47:18 GMT 1
The amount of food that must have gone to waste/charities after the Cardiff match will surely have made a loss on outlay......Never seen the kiosk on halfway in KB so deserted at half time, it was quite eerie. Pies!! Good that we are getting our priorities right!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 12:48:46 GMT 1
Sadly I agree - I've missed more games this season than I've been to despite having a season ticket. I haven't really minded either which is pretty telling In the summer we massively underinvested and weakened the side even when you match up the ones we signed against some of the better ones who left Maxwell or Vaslik? Vaslik for me Wiles or Holmes? Wiles maybe but not convinced and Holmes is a very good player at this level so maybe a marginal one for Wiles Burgozb or Hungbo? Hungbo for me Edwards or Lowton - score draw ... both equally hopeless at this level and a waste of time/money Then there's the 11 others who left the wage bill; Anjorin, Knockhart, Aarons, Daly, Camara, Grant. Crichlow. Schofield, Bilo, Boyle and Kambieri. Then the seven out on loan; High, Rowe, Rhodes, Mahoney, Phillips, Simpson, Spencer (last year we only had Ayina, Asterfield and Thomas on loan from the current squad) That's a huge amount of "savings" but they've lost sight that this is the entertainment business. Watching your team uncompetitive and getting beat game after game is in no way enjoyable I'm not even upset - just apathetic about the whole thing If you run a team on a League One set up you deserve to be in League One Holmes not given enough credit for me.Never understood Lowton being poor,he played over 250 games in the Premier League |
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Post by huddshroom on Oct 30, 2023 12:53:03 GMT 1
At the moment I'm only going because it's the only time I really spend with my dad, like other's say though I have young kids, too young to go to football and I'd rather sped the time with them at them moment, might start looking at every other home game
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 30, 2023 13:27:24 GMT 1
There's only so long you can keep getting kicked in the bollocks.
As I've said previously I have some sympathy with Nagle, he's inherited a shit show where not just the football team but the entire football club has been neglected for 5 years. Football has been a side show most of the time. I dont think he understand the magnitude of what was required moving forward but he or at least the people he's appointed have done nothing to turn this around so far and have in the last few weeks made things worse.
I'll be there for weekend home games where you can have a few beers and some food, but I am making zero effort to do anything more than that until this football club makes an effort to sign actual championship standard footballers and can field a team that isn't an embarrassment.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 30, 2023 13:37:49 GMT 1
Im not going to miss any game.
No better way to have an understanding of what’s going on than being there.
The focus on catering whilst well intentioned misses the point.
Fans won’t wake up on a Saturday morning thinking “ I know, I’ll go to watch Town because I’ve heard they have improved the pies”
They will go though if they are excited about seeing a team that is competitive in the Championship and can watch players who are able to produce football that at least gives us a chance in a game.
Off field revenues relate to what’s happening on the pitch .
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Post by waterlooboy on Oct 30, 2023 13:43:24 GMT 1
Keep believing chaps. Out of the darkest night comes the dawn. Stick with it. We have been here before, and look what happened. It is dire at present and i hate to see empty seats but can totally understand some peoples lack of motivation to attend on cold days and nights. All it takes is a couple of wins and the confidence will return. Not sure if Mr Moore is the man or not but lets give him time and our support
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Post by royrace on Oct 30, 2023 14:14:16 GMT 1
I wonder how many will have the appetite for L1 with potentially more expensive season cards to boot! Been there, done that, don't intend to do it again, especially if I don't agree with the way the club is being run.
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 30, 2023 14:16:31 GMT 1
I wonder how many will have the appetite for L1 with potentially more expensive season cards to boot! Been there, done that, don't intend to do it again, especially if I don't agree with the way the club is being run. Weirdly on a personal level, I’d love League One. I’ve done all the grounds in the top 2 divisions bar the Brentford new one, so to tick off some new ones would be nice |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 30, 2023 14:23:30 GMT 1
I wonder how many will have the appetite for L1 with potentially more expensive season cards to boot! Been there, done that, don't intend to do it again, especially if I don't agree with the way the club is being run. Still too early to have us down as a banker for relegation. However, if that were to be the outcome, and ST prices were to increase, it would probably top off the topsy turvy world we’ve been experiencing recently. Pay more for a lesser quality product, what’s not to like? Anyway, back on topic, Moore should maybe start working on his cohesion skills. At the moment the players feel as though they’ve lost a character in the dressing room, even if that character was older than your Grandad for some of these lads. We need to get some gusto and some momentum, even if it’s on the back of a scrappy 3 points… Let’s hope we start off well, because if we’re not on the front foot within the first 15 mins, the stands are likely to get pretty vocal. |
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Post by rab030 on Oct 30, 2023 14:41:22 GMT 1
If the owner is that daft/the admin at the club that inept frankly I’m too embarrassed to attend and don’t want to give you my money to do stupid things with. For me the manager and players are a reflection of the owner and his management structure. Underinvest in players, but choose a Warnock - fine by me. Get some good footballers in and maybe a lesser managerial talent - that’s probably gonna work and I’ll watch with interest. There’s no sense in combining player disposals with downgrading their manager. I’m not going any more. i do not see it as either DM’s fault, nor the players. Neither am I a Warnock fanboy, but the lack of investment made him indispensable this year, well until we had enough points on the board anyway. Wish the on field guys and fellow fans and DM all the best. Think I’ll decorate the house and spend a bit more time with the kids And you started a new thread just to announce that you were only ever a part-time fair weather supporter - perhaps think about supporting QPR next. |
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Post by sabailand on Oct 30, 2023 15:32:32 GMT 1
Appears some are only interested when the clubs on an upward curve, nobody likes it when we're doing shite but its all part of the package im afraid, fickle!
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 30, 2023 16:49:47 GMT 1
Appears some are only interested when the clubs on an upward curve, nobody likes it when we're doing shite but its all part of the package im afraid, fickle! Not sure it's a case of being fickle. We lost to Leicester and I came away thinking how much I'd enjoyed it. I, and I'm sure others can cope with us losing, even regularly as long as we look like we're having a go. At the moment we're utterly pathetic and that's what rubs off, not the loses |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Oct 30, 2023 16:57:30 GMT 1
Doing well, crowds come in.
Doing poor, crowds dwindle.
Same at most clubs and has been forever.
If you want to stay home and decorate, crack on. Everyone’s entitled to choose what life they want.
Mines watching Town. I’ll go no matter how good or bad we are but that’s football. I’ve done it long enough to not mope about football results. It’s just a cycle…good, bad, average.
Will see how all this plays out. Hope Moore puts some results together and we can stay out of bottom 3. Going down would be catastrophic.
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