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Post by dm on Jan 11, 2024 11:28:37 GMT 1
I think more signings like Matos and Bojan will be more than enough to see us climb the table, team on Sat should be much stronger than it has been for months including the bench doesnt mean we will win but for the first time in a many months I will be going to the game thinking we should be getting 3 points. Nicholls Jackson Lees Helik Reg Kasumu Hogg Matos Rudoni Bojan Sorba with the likes of Spencer, JK, Wiles, Diarra, on the bench. With Ruffles, Pearson, Turton, Burgzorg, Maxwell, Headley closing in on returns. Yeh fair point I also think probably be fine with 3 more at that standard.on the face of it anyway. Wouldn’t be averse to dropping Hogg into the back 3 for a short stint myself.midfield of Kasumu Matos and rudoni has so much energy about it.just not sure on the fitness of Kasumu again,had a knee issue at the weekend it said. For me, he's too short and not fast enough for a CB role (even temporarily). I feel that an ideal Championship CB needs to be fast, big/strong and have some passing ability. The less of these a player has, the less effective they would be. At least Lees/Pearson have the size and strength. Hogg has been an unbelievable signing and servant but the end is coming and shoe-horning him in unfamiliar roles is not going to turn back the clock for him.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 11, 2024 11:30:55 GMT 1
I think more signings like Matos and Bojan will be more than enough to see us climb the table, team on Sat should be much stronger than it has been for months including the bench doesnt mean we will win but for the first time in a many months I will be going to the game thinking we should be getting 3 points. Nicholls Jackson Lees Helik Reg Kasumu Hogg Matos Rudoni Bojan Sorba with the likes of Spencer, JK, Wiles, Diarra, on the bench. With Ruffles, Pearson, Turton, Burgzorg, Maxwell, Headley closing in on returns. Yeh fair point I also think probably be fine with 3 more at that standard.on the face of it anyway. Wouldn’t be averse to dropping Hogg into the back 3 for a short stint myself.midfield of Kasumu Matos and rudoni has so much energy about it.just not sure on the fitness of Kasumu again,had a knee issue at the weekend it said. Kas has been training all week, was not worth the risk against City, different agaisnt Plymouth, Same with Hogg. Spencer is unlucky but he may still play and team like below would be good IMHO 4-1-3-2 Hogg Dropping into middle when full backs get forward, Rudoni pulling to left a little, Kas and Sorba working the Right more. Play your best players and for me REG would not be in the team, but I doubt Darren will change the set up at the moment. LN BS MH TL BJ JH DK AM JR ST BR sorry this should really be on the Plymouth thread I guess.....
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Post by arry11 on Jan 11, 2024 11:41:40 GMT 1
Whilst i would welcome quality loan signings i do hope we can invest in buying some more quality players we can call our own which will add future value.
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Post by dezzly on Jan 11, 2024 11:47:30 GMT 1
Yeh fair point I also think probably be fine with 3 more at that standard.on the face of it anyway. Wouldn’t be averse to dropping Hogg into the back 3 for a short stint myself.midfield of Kasumu Matos and rudoni has so much energy about it.just not sure on the fitness of Kasumu again,had a knee issue at the weekend it said. Kas has been training all week, was not worth the risk against City, different agaisnt Plymouth, Same with Hogg. Spencer is unlucky but he may still play and team like below would be good IMHO 4-1-3-2 Hogg Dropping into middle when full backs get forward, Rudoni pulling to left a little, Kas and Sorba working the Right more. Play your best players and for me REG would not be in the team, but I doubt Darren will change the set up at the moment. LN BS MH TL BJ JH DK AM JR ST BR sorry this should really be on the Plymouth thread I guess..... Did suspect they were maybe just not risked against city. And those are certainly options..with more players back and more signings options are more a plenty…it’s then nailing down a system that works consistently with also having a plan b should it not be…interesting times.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Jan 11, 2024 12:01:10 GMT 1
Whilst i would welcome quality loan signings i do hope we can invest in buying some more quality players we can call our own which will add future value. Completely agree, but if we can add quality loans to ensure survival, Summer is always a better time to invest.
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Post by arry11 on Jan 11, 2024 12:13:33 GMT 1
Whilst i would welcome quality loan signings i do hope we can invest in buying some more quality players we can call our own which will add future value. Completely agree, but if we can add quality loans to ensure survival, Summer is always a better time to invest. Think it will all depend who and which players are available for a club like ours it could be best time to invest with less clubs chasing the same targets.
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Post by htfcterry on Jan 11, 2024 12:26:51 GMT 1
Micah Hamilton from City Close to a loan deal. Ticks a lot of what I have been told, Prem loan, exciting signing, attacker / Forward, Champions league club. Anything like Micah Hamilton and I think we can get excited about looking above and not behind. For someone "ITK" you don't know alot
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 11, 2024 12:31:44 GMT 1
Yeh fair point I also think probably be fine with 3 more at that standard.on the face of it anyway. Wouldn’t be averse to dropping Hogg into the back 3 for a short stint myself.midfield of Kasumu Matos and rudoni has so much energy about it.just not sure on the fitness of Kasumu again,had a knee issue at the weekend it said. For me, he's too short and not fast enough for a CB role (even temporarily). I feel that an ideal Championship CB needs to be fast, big/strong and have some passing ability. The less of these a player has, the less effective they would be. At least Lees/Pearson have the size and strength. Hogg has been an unbelievable signing and servant but the end is coming and shoe-horning him in unfamiliar roles is not going to turn back the clock for him. Does Lees have the size ? He's quite small for a CB, at just over 6'. Google has him and Yuta as the same height.
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Post by dm on Jan 11, 2024 13:02:58 GMT 1
For me, he's too short and not fast enough for a CB role (even temporarily). I feel that an ideal Championship CB needs to be fast, big/strong and have some passing ability. The less of these a player has, the less effective they would be. At least Lees/Pearson have the size and strength. Hogg has been an unbelievable signing and servant but the end is coming and shoe-horning him in unfamiliar roles is not going to turn back the clock for him. Does Lees have the size ? He's quite small for a CB, at just over 6'. Google has him and Yuta as the same height. He's significantly taller than Hogg though. And played his entire career in the position, not trying to learn a new position at 35/36. And besides that, Lees is probably also coming to the end of his time at Town so isn't an example of a top half Championship CB. We've had him because he was a free transfer and Hoyle didn't want to spend money on transfer fees any more.
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Post by Horney Barry on Jan 11, 2024 14:23:15 GMT 1
Micah Hamilton would be an unbelievable coup if we pull it off. He and Matos would give us some major pace to go alongside Thomas and Burgzorg.
I still feel we need to spend good money on a centre back to play with Helik. Lees and Pearson are going over the hill and they struggle with any pace against them.
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Post by Ross83 on Jan 11, 2024 14:50:29 GMT 1
I keep seeing people saying Pearson is over the hill. He isn't. He's 30, should be at the peak of his career for a CB, it just turns out he's very average with no pace.
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Post by RickDangerous on Jan 11, 2024 14:56:07 GMT 1
I keep seeing people saying Pearson is over the hill. He isn't. He's 30, should be at the peak of his career for a CB, it just turns out he's very average with no pace. That's harsh. He's been a good player for us.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jan 11, 2024 14:58:20 GMT 1
I keep seeing people saying Pearson is over the hill. He isn't. He's 30, should be at the peak of his career for a CB, it just turns out he's very average with no pace. That's harsh. He's been a good player for us. I’d say overall he has been a good signing, but without his goals he is a weak link in our side.
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Post by terriers2000 on Jan 11, 2024 15:17:23 GMT 1
Ideal would like a centre back on loan from a prem club who has pace in before the Plymouth game as whittaker will do lees all game
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Post by sonny on Jan 11, 2024 15:25:33 GMT 1
That's harsh. He's been a good player for us. I’d say overall he has been a good signing, but without his goals he is a weak link in our side. The days of centre backs who can't pass a ball accurately are pretty much over at this level.
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Post by dezzly on Jan 11, 2024 16:05:44 GMT 1
I keep seeing people saying Pearson is over the hill. He isn't. He's 30, should be at the peak of his career for a CB, it just turns out he's very average with no pace. That's harsh. He's been a good player for us. He’s good if you play a certain way that protects him,the same goes for lees.Carlos did it,as did Moore when we reverted to that 6 game run of sitting deep in shape but been utterly useless going forward. The shape and setup accounts for a lack of pace and players getting them one on one. Pearson very average on the ball too,lees is better but not loads. They both defend the box very very well though I’d say that was there strength.
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Jan 11, 2024 16:35:56 GMT 1
Seems that it has all gone quiet on the rumour front.
Should we assume that we won't be seeing any more announcements before the weekend?
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Post by popper45 on Jan 11, 2024 16:42:04 GMT 1
Come on Maynardblue, can you give us something to get excited about??
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 11, 2024 16:52:45 GMT 1
I’d say overall he has been a good signing, but without his goals he is a weak link in our side. The days of centre backs who can't pass a ball accurately are pretty much over at this level. And we've got 2
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Post by cuz on Jan 11, 2024 17:01:09 GMT 1
Come on Maynardblue, can you give us something to get excited about?? Out injured with a groin strain after meeting our new physio...
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Post by sonny on Jan 11, 2024 17:12:27 GMT 1
The days of centre backs who can't pass a ball accurately are pretty much over at this level. And we've got 2 Sadly, true. Pointless trying to play out from the back with Lees and Pearson.
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Post by utttrooper on Jan 11, 2024 17:15:02 GMT 1
Sadly, true. Pointless trying to play out from the back with Lees and Pearson. Forgetting REG if he plays there, he can play some absolute stinkers of passes
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Post by digs on Jan 11, 2024 18:23:11 GMT 1
Sadly, true. Pointless trying to play out from the back with Lees and Pearson. pointless playing out from the back with a midfield that can't pass the ball or keep hold of it
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Post by royrace on Jan 11, 2024 19:04:10 GMT 1
Sadly, true. Pointless trying to play out from the back with Lees and Pearson. pointless playing out from the back with a midfield that can't pass the ball or keep hold of it Also difficult to pass to statues being marked.
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Post by dezzly on Jan 11, 2024 19:38:23 GMT 1
pointless playing out from the back with a midfield that can't pass the ball or keep hold of it Also difficult to pass to statues being marked. While the passing of the ball has improved in a good chunk of the more recent games certainly for the most part before then it was almost none existent. Whilst iv pointed out a few times recently that passing and keeping hold of the ball has improved(albeit from pretty much nothing) Steven chicken on his latest pod pointed out he’s noticed the same but unlike me he managed to back it up with some stats.worth a listen if anyone wants to latch onto what they think could be progression like myself.
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Post by Ross83 on Jan 11, 2024 19:38:30 GMT 1
I keep seeing people saying Pearson is over the hill. He isn't. He's 30, should be at the peak of his career for a CB, it just turns out he's very average with no pace. That's harsh. He's been a good player for us. I wasn't being disrespectful, I like Pearson and certainly his commitment and not forgetting his important goals the last couple of seasons, but I just feel he's average in terms of Championship level defenders.
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Post by kjf on Jan 11, 2024 20:03:44 GMT 1
Micah Hamilton from City Close to a loan deal. Ticks a lot of what I have been told, Prem loan, exciting signing, attacker / Forward, Champions league club. Anything like Micah Hamilton and I think we can get excited about looking above and not behind. 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2024 21:10:19 GMT 1
Sadly, true. Pointless trying to play out from the back with Lees and Pearson. pointless playing out from the back with a midfield that can't pass the ball or keep hold of it We did it OK against Boro. Chapman played short and Helik, Nakayama, Rudoni & Headley were moving it up the field pretty well. We struggle doing that on the right hand side though. If we had a right sided centre back comfortable on the ball we wouldn't have to put so much down the left and would give the opposition more to cover. Also if he was reasonably quick we wouldn't get caught out so much. A few times we have conceded with balls played between our defenders with a quick attacker running onto. Our lack of speed means the attacker ends up one on one with the keeper. A bit more pace at the back would make that less likely. We do need better midfield passing and with Matos in the mix that could make it easier for them, but I think he would have to replace Hogg. I have a lot of time for Lees & Pearson, they are great servants of the club and give their all, but they don't have a good range of passing, not helped by Hogg being the central transition player, and they aren't quick. Time to improve that by replacing one of them.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 11, 2024 21:14:26 GMT 1
Another before the weekend?
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jan 11, 2024 21:16:55 GMT 1
Another before the weekend? was about to ask, what happened regarding that supposed medical yesterday.
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