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Post by joek on Oct 31, 2023 10:24:41 GMT 1
Think this is worth a new thread. Everyone seems to be banging on about limping to January and then seeing if we can/will invest. Who are these players that are going to come in during January and transform our season? Where are they coming from? Seems to me like a lot of eggs being placed in one very large basket.
Anyone decent at Championship level won’t be coming here. So that leaves us with Premier League loans, unknown (not saying that means they’re not good enough) players from abroad being parachuted into a poor team, or punts on high-performing players from L1 or L2 (are there any? Would they be sold in Jan? Would they want to come? Could they make an immediate impact?).
I’ve gone from being a bit nervous about the season in August to last year’s level of concern in a month and a half. Quite incredible how we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot. Struggling to see how this has a happy ending for us right now which is incredible given the high we experienced at end of last season. Very frustrating and, from the outside looking in, an entirely self-inflicted position to have put ourselves in again.
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Post by belizian on Oct 31, 2023 10:31:10 GMT 1
Is there any money available? If so, how much. US$'s strong against the UK Pound so Kev's got no excuse on that point.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Oct 31, 2023 10:45:07 GMT 1
We probably won't bother. Danny Ward is expected back after enjoying his Festive activities.
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Post by runner76 on Oct 31, 2023 10:48:45 GMT 1
Clearly we need more players in the squad than we will get in January, but the gaping holes of minimum 3-4 players needs to be and will be addressed in January.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 31, 2023 11:40:57 GMT 1
After the absolute cluster fuck of the last window, does anybody have any faith that the club are capable of bringing in key players in key areas that will actually improve the team?
I'm sure they'll peddle the line of FFP constraints anyway that only seems affect us, then sell Helik on deadline day to 'balance the books.'
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Post by goodbet on Oct 31, 2023 17:45:21 GMT 1
The way performances have dropped and we continue as we are I am concerned about the January window.
We will need a whole bunch of players that are up to playing in the Championship from the get go, we will not have time to develop prospects from the 3rd and 4th tiers of the English leagues.
To get Championship ready players will cost more money in fees and wages and the players themselves will not relish moving to a struggling club near the bottom of the league.
Cartwright will have to think up a different rumour to explain Januaries window away now he can't blame Warnock.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Oct 31, 2023 17:48:15 GMT 1
I would say right now , we defo need a centre half, two cf's and a centre mid or maybe two. if am been very honest i would like 5 signings .
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Post by crux on Oct 31, 2023 19:42:22 GMT 1
I would say right now , we defo need a centre half, two cf's and a centre mid or maybe two. if am been very honest i would like 5 signings . Plus, at least one fit right back! Preferably one who possesses both parts of that description 🤣 |
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Post by rab030 on Oct 31, 2023 19:46:35 GMT 1
Is there any money available? If so, how much. US$'s strong against the UK Pound so Kev's got no excuse on that point. Unless he buys in US players and has to pay in US$ ? |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 31, 2023 20:28:23 GMT 1
We need to look for players that have a bit of pace about them.
But ones who can actually control a ball and have basic ability unlike the Diakhabys of the world.
Regardless of how well we play, we have struggled against pace. Have done for a while.
We are too slow off the ball, and apart from Pat Jones when he gets a cameo, I can't recall us having someone who runs at a full back and makes them work.
Sorba had that, but seems to have been coached out of him.
Ideally we need 2 central midfielders and a striker as a priority.
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Oct 31, 2023 20:31:05 GMT 1
Don't panic, Townrwe will be along at some point with his patented bollocks about Germans arriving on a bus.
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Post by goodbet on Oct 31, 2023 21:43:29 GMT 1
Is there any money available? If so, how much. US$'s strong against the UK Pound so Kev's got no excuse on that point. After playing for six weeks he will be injured again. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Nov 5, 2023 5:48:37 GMT 1
I’d be looking at Celtic for a loan or three. They could be out of European football after Christmas and will have a bloated squad with quality players looking for game time. Some of the players who I think would be available:
Marco Tilio, 22 yo who has represented Australia, quick tricky player, much like Diarra but with more end product, can play on the wing or AM.
Tomoki Iwata, 26 yo, was J-League player of the year in 2022. Defensive Mid good at winning the ball back and moving the ball on.
There’ll be at least one CB available since they had an injury crisis and the 5th choice has had a breakout season keeping out the starter, the 1st choice backup and Phillips who has came from Liverpool on loan. Got to remember these players are brought in to play or develop into champions league players.
From Australia (Adelaide United), Joe Gauci 23 yo keeper who I believe is ready for this level, I’ve said this lad will be a big success and will be the next top level keeper out of Australia, which I still believe. Could give us the option to sell one of our assets in Nichols and invest the money in a striker or a top midfielder.
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Post by Jimuano on Nov 5, 2023 10:32:01 GMT 1
Our squad as it is, is one that will take us down to league one.
Even with a fully fit squad we need 4 at least new first team players.
I really struggle to see where more than 3 points will come from in our remaming 10 games in 2023.
Couple of Strikers
Defensive midfielder (and also long term Hogg replacement)
Mobile Central Defender
Right back, although I suppose Turton may be like a new signing when he returns, but is he continually going to be crocked?
This info should be very clear to all involved in HTAFC recruitment, and I hope they have a good plan to act quickly as soon as this window opens, rather than what seems to be the usual stalled, slow, disappointing progress with only really cheap prospect signings for the future.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 7, 2023 17:14:14 GMT 1
Here are a few names I will put out there, who have caught my eye this season.
Midfield
Daniel Kemp - Swindon (on loan from MK Dons)
15 appearances, 8 goals, 5 assists.
24 years old, his career has taken a while to get going after spells at West Ham, Blackpool and Hartlepool.
Arthur Read - Colchester.
13 appearances, 3 goals, 4 assists.
24 years old, combative midfielder who has been Colchesters most fouled player due to his dynamic running.
Strikers
Freddie Draper - Walsall (on loan from Lincoln)
13 appearances, 8 goals, 2 assists
19 years old, made his debut for Lincoln at 16 years old, has played 8 times. Spent last season on loan at Drogheda where he scored 8 goals in 20 games.
I mentioned Miles Leaburn at Charlton in the Summer Window thread. He will be out of our reach now.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 11, 2023 16:59:46 GMT 1
Here are a few names I will put out there, who have caught my eye this season. Midfield Daniel Kemp - Swindon (on loan from MK Dons) 15 appearances, 8 goals, 5 assists. 24 years old, his career has taken a while to get going after spells at West Ham, Blackpool and Hartlepool. Arthur Read - Colchester. 13 appearances, 3 goals, 4 assists. 24 years old, combative midfielder who has been Colchesters most fouled player due to his dynamic running. Strikers Freddie Draper - Walsall (on loan from Lincoln) 13 appearances, 8 goals, 2 assists 19 years old, made his debut for Lincoln at 16 years old, has played 8 times. Spent last season on loan at Drogheda where he scored 8 goals in 20 games. I mentioned Miles Leaburn at Charlton in the Summer Window thread. He will be out of our reach now. Kemp scores again for Swindon. |
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Post by bigtruck on Nov 11, 2023 17:47:04 GMT 1
It’s all going to depend on how DM wants to set up. I’d suggest a 4231 which would mean a 1st team RB. 2 midfielders 1/2 widemen and at least 2 strikers (including Rhodes being recalled.
GK
Nichols. Maxwell
RB
Turton. +1
CB
Helik. Pearson. Yuta. Lees
LB
Headley. Ruffells. Jackson
DM
Hogg. Wiles. Kasumu +1
LM
Koroma. Jones. +1
CAM
Rudoni. Diarra +1
RM
Sorba. +2
ST
+2 Hudlin Harratt Ward.
That’s 8 players to make this anything like a competitive squad. Jesus we’ve fallen off a cliff.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 11, 2023 18:02:26 GMT 1
Here are a few names I will put out there, who have caught my eye this season. Midfield Daniel Kemp - Swindon (on loan from MK Dons) 15 appearances, 8 goals, 5 assists. 24 years old, his career has taken a while to get going after spells at West Ham, Blackpool and Hartlepool. Arthur Read - Colchester. 13 appearances, 3 goals, 4 assists. 24 years old, combative midfielder who has been Colchesters most fouled player due to his dynamic running. Strikers Freddie Draper - Walsall (on loan from Lincoln) 13 appearances, 8 goals, 2 assists 19 years old, made his debut for Lincoln at 16 years old, has played 8 times. Spent last season on loan at Drogheda where he scored 8 goals in 20 games. I mentioned Miles Leaburn at Charlton in the Summer Window thread. He will be out of our reach now. Kemp scores again for Swindon. And Read again for Colchester.... |
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Post by Terriersmad on Nov 12, 2023 12:43:10 GMT 1
Here are a few names I will put out there, who have caught my eye this season. Midfield Daniel Kemp - Swindon (on loan from MK Dons) 15 appearances, 8 goals, 5 assists. 24 years old, his career has taken a while to get going after spells at West Ham, Blackpool and Hartlepool. Arthur Read - Colchester. 13 appearances, 3 goals, 4 assists. 24 years old, combative midfielder who has been Colchesters most fouled player due to his dynamic running. Strikers Freddie Draper - Walsall (on loan from Lincoln) 13 appearances, 8 goals, 2 assists 19 years old, made his debut for Lincoln at 16 years old, has played 8 times. Spent last season on loan at Drogheda where he scored 8 goals in 20 games. I mentioned Miles Leaburn at Charlton in the Summer Window thread. He will be out of our reach now. Good for the future. My concern would be the here and now. No point having a glut of starlets if they're not ready for Championship football - we already have plenty of those, who are in need of experience and quality. Kieffer Moore on loan and bring Jordan Rhodes back up front. Two midfielders, one a Hogg replacement and one a proper ball-player to free up Rudoni and Wiles up the pitch. A winger on loan from the Premier League to give us an X-factor. That's my blueprint. Five additions, all in more advanced positions. And get a couple of the kids who have been filling in out on loan for regular football at a proper developmental level. |
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Post by crux on Nov 12, 2023 15:18:57 GMT 1
Even without replacing squad players who aren't good enough, we need 2 strikers, a midfielder, a right back and right winger in January. All these players need to be ready to play Championship football from the first minute they arrive.
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Post by monkbar on Nov 12, 2023 15:49:12 GMT 1
Who the hell is going to want to come here, especially if by then were in the bottom 3?
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Nov 12, 2023 16:34:51 GMT 1
Biggest transfer window for the club in the last decade. Gung ho or bust, I feel.
If the club is going to stick with DM, they're going to need to back him, and back him HEAVILY in the window.
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Post by Jimuano on Nov 12, 2023 16:43:07 GMT 1
Who the hell is going to want to come here, especially if by then were in the bottom 3? those seeking ££££££££££s |
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Post by dm on Nov 12, 2023 17:29:23 GMT 1
We need at least:
2 strikers
2 central midfielders
2 full backs (if not 2 for each side)
1-2 center-backs
1-2 wingers
We don't need a tweak, it's open-heart surgery that is required.
This isn't happening in ANY January transfer window. This has happened due to about 5 years of shite investment/selling our best players and replacing them with untested, aging, injury-prone or just plain poor also-rans.
Apparently, we've been doing things more cleverly than the rest - utter hogwash. We've been trying to penny-pinch and hope that there are 3 teams shitter than we are. Eventually, you become one of the worst 3 in the league and get relegated.
We try to penny-pinch concerning managers also. Look how the last 18 months have gone - repeated cheap shite left us struggling, pay for a good one to get us out of it. Now we find ourselves with a cheaper manager and we look lost again.
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Nov 12, 2023 18:55:48 GMT 1
We need at least: 2 strikers 2 central midfielders 2 full backs (if not 2 for each side) 1-2 center-backs 1-2 wingers We don't need a tweak, it's open-heart surgery that is required. This isn't happening in ANY January transfer window. This has happened due to about 5 years of shite investment/selling our best players and replacing them with untested, aging, injury-prone or just plain poor also-rans. Apparently, we've been doing things more cleverly than the rest - utter hogwash. We've been trying to penny-pinch and hope that there are 3 teams shitter than we are. Eventually, you become one of the worst 3 in the league and get relegated. We try to penny-pinch concerning managers also. Look how the last 18 months have gone - repeated cheap shite left us struggling, pay for a good one to get us out of it. Now we find ourselves with a cheaper manager and we look lost again. It is true that we need to do a far amount of business in January, and we likely won't be able to complete everything we need. So we will have to prioritise. We've been so desperately lacking in attack this season that the forward positions have to be the most important. We need to aim to sign two senior forwards who play predominantly in central positions (I'd imagine that we might only be able to afford one permanently - the other could be a loan). Over the summer I was quietly hoping that Town would go after Bojan Miovski at Aberdeen. He's having another decent season, and probably would be too costly in January, but would be my shout. Beyond strikers, I think we need another first choice winger. Koroma is having a quiet season and Burgzorg is Burgzorg (I know he's played further forward so far, but I don't think that was the intention when we signed him). I'd like someone left footed ideally. Had hoped Pat Jones was going to break through this season but hasn't done that and seems to be injured again. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Nov 12, 2023 19:31:07 GMT 1
Even with some money to spend I'd have little faith that the transfer committee would bring in the correct type of player. Just look at the last window, which has to be one of the worst summer windows ever.
Edwards. Terrible RB. 2/10.
Wiles. Doesn't look to have recovered from his injury, looks like a dud. 3/10.
Burgzorg. Not a team player at all. 4/10.
Maxwell. Back-up keeper. 5/10.
We got shut of over 20 players and these 4 are players we felt were the right fit for an already threadbare, poor squad? Terrifyingly bad recruitment.
Cartwright's little black book needs burning.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Nov 13, 2023 14:09:07 GMT 1
Even with some money to spend I'd have little faith that the transfer committee would bring in the correct type of player. Just look at the last window, which has to be one of the worst summer windows ever. Edwards. Terrible RB. 2/10. Wiles. Doesn't look to have recovered from his injury, looks like a dud. 3/10. Burgzorg. Not a team player at all. 4/10. Maxwell. Back-up keeper. 5/10. We got shut of over 20 players and these 4 are players we felt were the right fit for an already threadbare, poor squad? Terrifyingly bad recruitment. Cartwright's little black book needs burning. While I agree the summer business was poor. Edwards - brutal, and should have stayed clear. Wiles - you can see there is talent, Vincent Company wouldn't have wanted him at Burnley if not (before injury). He will come good, im 100% confident with that. Burgzorg - I like, reminds me of RVLP, and it took him a while to adapt to being a team player also. Maxwell, not bad bringing in theory a 1st team ready backup/competitor for LN. I genuinely think the last window came a couple of months too soon for new ownership, and those in charge, with the takeover taking a while. I'm going to judge them on how hard they go for it this Jan and this Summer. For sure, they have to bring in some attacking quality (agree with BerlinTerrier, 2 strikers a minimum (for me that excludes Rhodes (I'd be tempted to bring him back, so we have better coverage on rotation of strikers just incase, he's confident and scoring, a confident striker is a million miles better than a great striker trying to find form). Although, we're "solid" at the back, in Jan/Summer were going to have to invest into some pace back there, im confident we have 1 of the slowest defenses in the league, which means we have to sit deeper, to over compensate, thus the knock on effect is Hogg, who also is aging and slowing by the day, has to sit deeper, leaving a lot of space with the rest of the midfield/strikers. David Kasumu we'd hope would be the next Hogg for us, but injury prone. My worry is, unless the squad is invested our more consistent and better players (Not taking this years form necessarily as my indicator) the likes of Lee Nicholls, Helik, Thomas even Diarra will all move on to bigger and better things. Massive window which will show the true intent of ownership and directors. Don't push for it, can see us relegated. We won't make it back up for years after that. I'd be looking at 3-4 real quality additions (don't invest into the "potential" players where they sit on fringes and B team for a year or 2), and 2-3 real quality prem loans. Tough ask, but something needs to give. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Nov 13, 2023 16:42:21 GMT 1
Does anyone know the rules now with Brexit and signing players from abroad. Is it as it was, or are there restrictions?
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Post by mosher on Nov 13, 2023 17:04:16 GMT 1
Does anyone know the rules now with Brexit and signing players from abroad. Is it as it was, or are there restrictions? It's not as easy as pre-Brexit, but there are now bonus allowances based on English players at the club. Someone posted it on another thread yonks ago. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Nov 13, 2023 17:30:36 GMT 1
Does anyone know the rules now with Brexit and signing players from abroad. Is it as it was, or are there restrictions? Think if they majority of your squad is English or homegrown you’re no allowed to sign a certain number or foreign players which wouldn’t normally pass the brexit rules |
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