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Post by royrace on Jan 17, 2024 9:54:35 GMT 1
Anyone consider the description of a centre half mentioned above could be the one to which Kev said a club ceo didn’t want to let them go in the end? Just seems like the type of profile of player where that could be the case and they don’t want to let them go. More worrying for me is that i don't see a top quality centre back making much difference to our form, the issue is we cant create chances, score goals or control possession. A new CB isn't going to help with that and we already have three very good ones.
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Post by dezzly on Jan 17, 2024 10:01:00 GMT 1
Anyone consider the description of a centre half mentioned above could be the one to which Kev said a club ceo didn’t want to let them go in the end? Just seems like the type of profile of player where that could be the case and they don’t want to let them go. More worrying for me is that i don't see a top quality centre back making much difference to our form, the issue is we cant create chances, score goals or control possession. A new CB isn't going to help with that and we already have three very good ones. On the face of it maybe doesn’t look that way. However if you have a think a bit more I think it probably can. One with just more pace allows us to squeeze higher up the pitch,not just the defence but everyone making it easier to nit everything together and also easier to press higher as there aren’t such big gaps.It also lets us be a touch more open as we aren’t as worried about getting done on the counter. If we can get one that’s equally as good on the ball as Yuta it makes building from the back a more viable and effective option. If we can get one who has both attributes and is maybe also considered a better actual defender than Yuta I think going to 4 at the back is a more viable option too allowing us to a) have more attacking players on the pitch(in theory anyway) and b) the option to switch between different formations. Creativity is a must for goals as is someone to put them away but if we want to move away from only been effective as a counter attacking side the above or at least some of it needs addressing.In my opinion anyway.
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Post by richhtfc on Jan 17, 2024 10:03:09 GMT 1
Anyone consider the description of a centre half mentioned above could be the one to which Kev said a club ceo didn’t want to let them go in the end? Just seems like the type of profile of player where that could be the case and they don’t want to let them go. More worrying for me is that i don't see a top quality centre back making much difference to our form, the issue is we cant create chances, score goals or control possession. A new CB isn't going to help with that and we already have three very good ones. Think he’s worried about the left hand side, especially while Yuta is off and Headley is injured. Anyone added left footed into the search criteria?
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Jan 17, 2024 10:08:06 GMT 1
The only one who does all this criteria is CCV and that’s never happening so makes me think it’s Trusty be he wasn’t loaned to blades What? Can you decipher that for a simpleton like me please. Yeah I missed a word out. Hang on I’ll try again…. The only one who fits all the criteria mentioned is CCV (Cameron Carter Vickers) but I don’t believe that’s happening. Of the names mention I think it would be Austen Trusty however he was not on loan at blades (Sheff Utd) before he signed so that doesn’t fit either.
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Post by benhomly on Jan 17, 2024 10:08:24 GMT 1
This ticks all of the boxes. Can't imagine there'd be that many players out there who meet all that criteria. Seems like a very long shot though, and he'd be absolutely bonkers to come here from Celtic. I wouldn't mind signing his defensive partner Liam Scales though- looked good whenever I've seen him play, left footed, and surely much more affordable. As long as he weighs in with a few goals as well it would be a good signing.
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Jan 17, 2024 10:12:52 GMT 1
What? Can you decipher that for a simpleton like me please. Yeah I missed a word out. Hang on I’ll try again…. The only one who fits all the criteria mentioned is CCV (Cameron Carter Vickers) but I don’t believe that’s happening. Of the names mention I think it would be Austen Trusty however he was not on loan at blades (Sheff Utd) before he signed so that doesn’t fit either. He was on loan at Birmingham the season before his move, only thing that was said was "after a loan" - wouldn't have to be the same club
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Post by Lightcliffe Terrier on Jan 17, 2024 10:16:29 GMT 1
Bielik sounds the most plausible, believe he has played centre half before. Weren’t Derby obliged to pay £7m for him after his loan from Arsenal when Frank was there ?
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Jan 17, 2024 10:42:21 GMT 1
Yeah I missed a word out. Hang on I’ll try again…. The only one who fits all the criteria mentioned is CCV (Cameron Carter Vickers) but I don’t believe that’s happening. Of the names mention I think it would be Austen Trusty however he was not on loan at blades (Sheff Utd) before he signed so that doesn’t fit either. He was on loan at Birmingham the season before his move, only thing that was said was "after a loan" - wouldn't have to be the same club Good point. Or it could all be bollocks anyway 😂. Waits for like from Maynard….
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Post by Uddersfield on Jan 17, 2024 10:46:10 GMT 1
Bielik is the one who had 2 ACL injuries?
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Post by Maynardblue on Jan 17, 2024 10:49:18 GMT 1
Am I missing something here? What’s the issue? I guess the issue being highlighted is that this sentence doesn't really make sense, it's not valid English: What I’m going to say to you as a manager is that you know that we’ve expressed an activity in the transfer window, that’s not changed.Its just the way he talks, he's always talked like this. It's like it's been translated from Chinese. Just bizarre.
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Post by townmad9 on Jan 17, 2024 10:55:20 GMT 1
Anyone consider the description of a centre half mentioned above could be the one to which Kev said a club ceo didn’t want to let them go in the end? Just seems like the type of profile of player where that could be the case and they don’t want to let them go. Didn't he say the CEO was newly appointed too? Which clubs have recently appointed a new CEO? QPR? Obviously could be a club from abroad too
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 11:00:03 GMT 1
Very disappointed so far.
We need 6/7 first team quality, fit to go players to get out of this mess the board has put us in.
So far we've signed a striker and crippled him already and a CM that tires after 1 hour.
We need action, not words. We've had words for 5/6 years now and it's tiring.
Players will come if we are willing to not scrape around and offer market price and realistic 2024 Championship wages.
The importance of the Plymouth and upcoming games will shape our season, why more haven't come in for these crucial fixtures I find bizarre - yet not surprising.
And no, I don't think the effort so far has been put in enough and blaming 3rd parties is a reasonable excuse. Pay the right money and we'd have more first team ready players for these crucial fixtures.
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Post by ram on Jan 17, 2024 11:12:09 GMT 1
So,no actual rumours then?
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Post by typical on Jan 17, 2024 11:23:35 GMT 1
Tanganga from Spurs available for loan, since were seemingly after a CB.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 17, 2024 11:31:02 GMT 1
More worrying for me is that i don't see a top quality centre back making much difference to our form, the issue is we cant create chances, score goals or control possession. A new CB isn't going to help with that and we already have three very good ones. On the face of it maybe doesn’t look that way. However if you have a think a bit more I think it probably can. One with just more pace allows us to squeeze higher up the pitch,not just the defence but everyone making it easier to nit everything together and also easier to press higher as there aren’t such big gaps.It also lets us be a touch more open as we aren’t as worried about getting done on the counter. If we can get one that’s equally as good on the ball as Yuta it makes building from the back a more viable and effective option. If we can get one who has both attributes and is maybe also considered a better actual defender than Yuta I think going to 4 at the back is a more viable option too allowing us to a) have more attacking players on the pitch(in theory anyway) and b) the option to switch between different formations. Creativity is a must for goals as is someone to put them away but if we want to move away from only been effective as a counter attacking side the above or at least some of it needs addressing.In my opinion anyway. The three does not work due to a lack of pace. If he wants a 3 and it looks like he does, then one with pace is a must for him to carry it on. That then affects their starting position in open play and hopefully brings them closer to the rest of the team further up the pitch, which in turn allows us to play differently. We dont have the personnel for 5 3 2 at the moment and it shows. The lack of a fit striker, notwithstanding.
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Post by Dan on Jan 17, 2024 11:42:49 GMT 1
Bielik sounds the most plausible, believe he has played centre half before. Weren’t Derby obliged to pay £7m for him after his loan from Arsenal when Frank was there ? Bielik played 90 mins for Birmingham last night in the cup so doubt it's him. Also looking at twitter, their fans want shut of him.
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Post by stinkypete on Jan 17, 2024 11:45:37 GMT 1
Very disappointed so far. We need 6/7 first team quality, fit to go players to get out of this mess the board has put us in. So far we've signed a striker and crippled him already and a CM that tires after 1 hour. We need action, not words. We've had words for 5/6 years now and it's tiring. Players will come if we are willing to not scrape around and offer market price and realistic 2024 Championship wages. The importance of the Plymouth and upcoming games will shape our season, why more haven't come in for these crucial fixtures I find bizarre - yet not surprising. And no, I don't think the effort so far has been put in enough and blaming 3rd parties is a reasonable excuse. Pay the right money and we'd have more first team ready players for these crucial fixtures. I have to agree, we don’t half seem to be “messed about” a lot at the last minute by other clubs! Seems to happen far too often. We started off this window positively but the excuses seem to be creeping in again now. We should’ve had another 2 in at least by now as this squad is criminally weak, the longer this drags on the longer DM has excuses! Got to pay the going rate I’m afraid. It’s now Wednesday and no rumours so looking like we go into another huge game scratching around for attacking players, cos I’ve a funny feeling this new striker “won’t be risked” again! Up your game Town before it’s too late!
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Post by Uddersfield on Jan 17, 2024 11:46:47 GMT 1
Alfie Devine recalled by Spurs from his loan spell at Port Vale. Supposedly going to a championship club.
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Post by htfcterry on Jan 17, 2024 11:48:16 GMT 1
Not sure why you’d wanna join this car crash of a football club looking from the outside in.
- We’re likely to pay below Championship average wage - 4th bottom, in horrific form - An under pressure poor manager that realistically shouldn’t be here come May, & playing a poor tactic - Fans want the manager out and seemingly not happy. - Crowds are getting lower
Why on earth would any decent prospect player look at us and think “Yeah, that’s the place for me” - they wouldn’t. Why would a Pep or Ten Haag look at us and think they want one of their younger players to develop here? I hear training facilities are less than adequate. They wouldn’t.
Cons outweigh the positives. That’s how I see it anyway, unless anyone can tell me a bunch of positives to counter that.
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Post by dezzly on Jan 17, 2024 11:53:29 GMT 1
On the face of it maybe doesn’t look that way. However if you have a think a bit more I think it probably can. One with just more pace allows us to squeeze higher up the pitch,not just the defence but everyone making it easier to nit everything together and also easier to press higher as there aren’t such big gaps.It also lets us be a touch more open as we aren’t as worried about getting done on the counter. If we can get one that’s equally as good on the ball as Yuta it makes building from the back a more viable and effective option. If we can get one who has both attributes and is maybe also considered a better actual defender than Yuta I think going to 4 at the back is a more viable option too allowing us to a) have more attacking players on the pitch(in theory anyway) and b) the option to switch between different formations. Creativity is a must for goals as is someone to put them away but if we want to move away from only been effective as a counter attacking side the above or at least some of it needs addressing.In my opinion anyway. The three does not work due to a lack of pace. If he wants a 3 and it looks like he does, then one with pace is a must for him to carry it on. That then affects their starting position in open play and hopefully brings them closer to the rest of the team further up the pitch, which in turn allows us to play differently. We dont have the personnel for 5 3 2 at the moment and it shows. The lack of a fit striker, notwithstanding. Frightening how the lack and of two players of certain type (a central striker and the above centre half) can have such an effect and create such limitations isn’t it.
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Post by theterrier42 on Jan 17, 2024 11:53:34 GMT 1
Alfie Devine recalled by Spurs from his loan spell at Port Vale. Supposedly going to a championship club. Plymouth
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Post by PellonTerrier on Jan 17, 2024 12:01:43 GMT 1
One of the very fewthings i actually liked in the Plymouth match was how far forward Tom Lees was getting. It wasnt hugely effective because thats not his natural game but i could see how well that might work with a centre half more technically able getting in those positions
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Post by jqhtfc on Jan 17, 2024 12:05:51 GMT 1
Alfie Devine recalled by Spurs from his loan spell at Port Vale. Supposedly going to a championship club. Plymouth, believe he played under foster for the England youth
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Post by dezzly on Jan 17, 2024 12:08:31 GMT 1
One of the very fewthings i actually liked in the Plymouth match was how far forward Tom Lees was getting. It wasnt hugely effective because thats not his natural game but i could see how well that might work with a centre half more technically able getting in those positions Yes he did second half didn’t he tbf. It’s something Yuta has done well on the other side once he got a run in the side at centre half.having one either side of Helik who can do it should really help,it draws the opposition out of a shape giving more space to others.an easy criticism of us is that generally we’re so easy to play against…and that’s half the reason why.predictable and don’t move other teams about out of position.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 17, 2024 12:27:06 GMT 1
The three does not work due to a lack of pace. If he wants a 3 and it looks like he does, then one with pace is a must for him to carry it on. That then affects their starting position in open play and hopefully brings them closer to the rest of the team further up the pitch, which in turn allows us to play differently. We dont have the personnel for 5 3 2 at the moment and it shows. The lack of a fit striker, notwithstanding. Frightening how the lack and of two players of certain type (a central striker and the above centre half) can have such an effect and create such limitations isn’t it. Helik and Lees like to mark a man or at worst cover each other. Lees looks awkward out of the middle although Helik does a reasonable job when pulled out wider. They both like to defend deeper as neither has the pace and it leads to the team dropping too quickly and often staying in too long. We have to accept he wants to play a 3 but having our 2 best centre halves who dont like covering space behind wing backs being given full backs to make up the 3 isnt helping. All formations and systems can work if you have the right players in the right places. I personally think Kasumu/headley can play wing back and maybe Brodie at a push but sorba and koroma cant. Shoehorning needs knocking on the head and a successful transfer window will help no end.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Jan 17, 2024 12:33:41 GMT 1
I am told that although we are trying for a LCB, the proirty this week is still in Attack the one we had last week is not happening now despite it being pretty much completed and all agreed.
We still expect to get 3 or 4 new players in before the end of the window, some are waitng on other moves to complete before allowing them to join us thats just how it works in January. We can go bring some players in now if we want be we want the correct ones.
Injuries are slowly improving also Pearson - close to a return I was told he was in contention to make the bench against Plymouth Turton - played in a couple of special games and getting closer to a return Maxwell - should be back soon Chapman - not too sure but it was not serious Ruffles - Making good progress I think this weekend will just be too soon. Headley - Should be back in next 2 weeks Jones - doing lots of strengthening work High - Feb Del - talk of 6 weeks from injury is not what I expect, I think we will see him again this month Radulovic - It wasnt serious expect him involved this weekend Harratt - should be back on the grass training in next 10days. Ward - Not convinced we will see Danny again this season if we do its a couple of months at least Hudlin - should be fine for the weekend subject to concussion rules being met.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 17, 2024 12:35:06 GMT 1
Not sure why you’d wanna join this car crash of a football club looking from the outside in. - We’re likely to pay below Championship average wage - 4th bottom, in horrific form - An under pressure poor manager that realistically shouldn’t be here come May, & playing a poor tactic - Fans want the manager out and seemingly not happy. - Crowds are getting lower Why on earth would any decent prospect player look at us and think “Yeah, that’s the place for me” - they wouldn’t. Why would a Pep or Ten Haag look at us and think they want one of their younger players to develop here? I hear training facilities are less than adequate. They wouldn’t. Cons outweigh the positives. That’s how I see it anyway, unless anyone can tell me a bunch of positives to counter that. Young men who want to play real football, not u23s. Young men who are at big clubs and understand their chances of first team football there are slim and probably limited and want to get a chance to shine. More experienced pros who are out of favour with the managers where they are now and are desperate to get their career going again. The lad on saturday looked very, very keen to get into a proper football match. There are actually more players out there now who may be available to us than ever before. The knack is getting 2 or 3 who work pretty sharpish in the Jan window.
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Post by netherterrier on Jan 17, 2024 12:38:59 GMT 1
There was a name mentioned a while ago who was a left sided centre back from the states who had played at a higher level. Someone must have posted it don’t know if there’s anything in it though.
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Post by prepare on Jan 17, 2024 12:43:58 GMT 1
Not sure why you’d wanna join this car crash of a football club looking from the outside in. - We’re likely to pay below Championship average wage - 4th bottom, in horrific form - An under pressure poor manager that realistically shouldn’t be here come May, & playing a poor tactic - Fans want the manager out and seemingly not happy. - Crowds are getting lower Why on earth would any decent prospect player look at us and think “Yeah, that’s the place for me” - they wouldn’t. Why would a Pep or Ten Haag look at us and think they want one of their younger players to develop here? I hear training facilities are less than adequate. They wouldn’t. Cons outweigh the positives. That’s how I see it anyway, unless anyone can tell me a bunch of positives to counter that. the training ground is adequate
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Post by Sparrow on Jan 17, 2024 12:52:25 GMT 1
There was a name mentioned a while ago who was a left sided centre back from the states who had played at a higher level. Someone must have posted it don’t know if there’s anything in it though. That was possibly me with Teenage Hadebe from Huston Dynamo's. Previously played in Turkey with Y.Malatyaspor. It was just a name I threw out in connection with the 'International / Overseas' signing that I think Nixon or Fabrizio Romano mentioned on Twitter as he's played in the US and is now out of contract. Total random name
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