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Post by prepare on Nov 28, 2023 17:44:24 GMT 1
I can listen to this one as its not official club communication..... Imagine been a director of football that has to get sign-off on a new cooker..... stinks of small time. To be fair to him, hes a reasonable communicator, but everything he says would be present in any finance meeting in any small organisation. He comes across as someone that talks all day but shows little to back it up. What are we actually doing different other than run of the mill running of the club. It needs new thinking, There is nothing new, nothing revolutionary, Its run of the mill every other clubs doing it stuff. Where is the ambition? bit like you !!? All spout and no end product!! Hes forgotten more than you will ever know
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Post by efesodje23 on Nov 28, 2023 20:30:17 GMT 1
Very full of himself. Also very keen to hammer down throats how important he is and his role is apparently the same as being the manager (it isn't and if it here, we have an issue).
Manages to say a lot whilst actually saying very little. Which is very impressive for a video designed to talk into the detail of a specific role.
Wouldn't buy a car from him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 20:48:30 GMT 1
Very full of himself. Also very keen to hammer down throats how important he is and his role is apparently the same as being the manager (it isn't and if it here, we have an issue). Manages to say a lot whilst actually saying very little. Which is very impressive for a video designed to talk into the detail of a specific role. Wouldn't buy a car from him. I don’t think he sells cars.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 20:49:39 GMT 1
I can listen to this one as its not official club communication..... Imagine been a director of football that has to get sign-off on a new cooker..... stinks of small time. To be fair to him, hes a reasonable communicator, but everything he says would be present in any finance meeting in any small organisation. He comes across as someone that talks all day but shows little to back it up. What are we actually doing different other than run of the mill running of the club. It needs new thinking, There is nothing new, nothing revolutionary, Its run of the mill every other clubs doing it stuff. Where is the ambition? Does that include successful clubs? If so then surely that’s a good thing?
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 28, 2023 22:14:29 GMT 1
Very full of himself. Also very keen to hammer down throats how important he is and his role is apparently the same as being the manager (it isn't and if it here, we have an issue). Manages to say a lot whilst actually saying very little. Which is very impressive for a video designed to talk into the detail of a specific role. Wouldn't buy a car from him. wasn’t he saying that the role is like that of a manager in terms of how often clubs can change the person in the role. Not that the role is as important as that of the manager. Indeed, doesn’t he emphasise that the most important opinion when signing players is the Manager’s as it’s the manager who has to coach and work with the player everyday
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Post by dezzly on Nov 28, 2023 22:29:49 GMT 1
Very full of himself. Also very keen to hammer down throats how important he is and his role is apparently the same as being the manager (it isn't and if it here, we have an issue). Manages to say a lot whilst actually saying very little. Which is very impressive for a video designed to talk into the detail of a specific role. Wouldn't buy a car from him. wasn’t he saying that the role is like that of a manager in terms of how often clubs can change the person in the role. Not that the role is as important as that of the manager. Indeed, doesn’t he emphasise that the most important opinion when signing players is the Manager’s as it’s the manager who has to coach and work with the player everyday Yeh that basically exactly what he says.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 28, 2023 23:59:03 GMT 1
I can listen to this one as its not official club communication..... Imagine been a director of football that has to get sign-off on a new cooker..... stinks of small time. To be fair to him, hes a reasonable communicator, but everything he says would be present in any finance meeting in any small organisation. He comes across as someone that talks all day but shows little to back it up. What are we actually doing different other than run of the mill running of the club. It needs new thinking, There is nothing new, nothing revolutionary, Its run of the mill every other clubs doing it stuff. Where is the ambition? Does that include successful clubs? If so then surely that’s a good thing? We aren't doing what clubs that are out performing there budget are doing. In fact so far we are doing a man utd on less money. We need to be looking at Brentford and Brighton and shamelessly copying what they do. Get a hand up onto their shoulders and then stand up head and shoulders above them by making what they have got better. All I see at the moment, is trying not to lose, safe recruitment and mediocrity.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 0:11:14 GMT 1
I can listen to this one as its not official club communication..... Imagine been a director of football that has to get sign-off on a new cooker..... stinks of small time. To be fair to him, hes a reasonable communicator, but everything he says would be present in any finance meeting in any small organisation. He comes across as someone that talks all day but shows little to back it up. What are we actually doing different other than run of the mill running of the club. It needs new thinking, There is nothing new, nothing revolutionary, Its run of the mill every other clubs doing it stuff. Where is the ambition? bit like you !!? All spout and no end product!! Hes forgotten more than you will ever know It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 0:25:01 GMT 1
Very full of himself. Also very keen to hammer down throats how important he is and his role is apparently the same as being the manager (it isn't and if it here, we have an issue). Manages to say a lot whilst actually saying very little. Which is very impressive for a video designed to talk into the detail of a specific role. Wouldn't buy a car from him. It's basically a club PR video... if he had to get permission to sign off on a cooker, that would have had to be signed off as well, especially in works time in his office. That hour should have been spent looking at January signings not waving his small cock about telling us he's the most important person in the building. They really are taking yorkshire folk how my housemates took me and treating us like inferior fools. I don't buy any of this, unofficial videos, datm influencers.. people with no friends been totally positive on Facebook after a draw. In the know posters been fed tit bits so that they become club puppets.
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Post by Tiro on Nov 29, 2023 2:33:51 GMT 1
Comes across like a nice bloke........just like Darren Moore does !!! Nice blokes finish last.... Statistically proven. Now you wanna rely on statistics? Last time we chatted, it was on the point of you belating statistics in making judgments. By Cartwright no less. Wanna present those statistics. Or are you just chatting bullshit. As per.
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Post by Tiro on Nov 29, 2023 2:49:45 GMT 1
Very full of himself. Also very keen to hammer down throats how important he is and his role is apparently the same as being the manager (it isn't and if it here, we have an issue). Manages to say a lot whilst actually saying very little. Which is very impressive for a video designed to talk into the detail of a specific role. Wouldn't buy a car from him. It's basically a club PR video... if he had to get permission to sign off on a cooker, that would have had to be signed off as well, especially in works time in his office. That hour should have been spent looking at January signings not waving his small cock about telling us he's the most important person in the building. They really are taking yorkshire folk how my housemates took me and treating us like inferior fools. I don't buy any of this, unofficial videos, datm influencers.. people with no friends been totally positive on Facebook after a draw. In the know posters been fed tit bits so that they become club puppets. You‘ve always pushed the boundaries on here, which I’m sure you’d admit, but lately you’ve become disproportionately angry / unhinged. ‘Appreciate the board is a place for discussion and Town is a myriad of topics that will divide; but you’re at the head of a very public outpouring which at times borders on IED, often without rationale or reason and seemingly reads like a conspiracy theory. With genuine sincerity, Town fan to Town fan, are you OK? We’re all concerned with the club and it’s welfare - I don’t think anyone can be truly happy with either the on or off field circumstances - but we’re all Town fans and we’re all open to a valued opinion and in brutal truth, nothing that any of us says on here really matters in respect of the club, it’s performance and it’s function. The boards not worth your heart-attack. Happy to chat by DM if you want 🙂. Sorry if I’ve overstepped the mark / realised this may have been better served privately.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 29, 2023 8:33:20 GMT 1
Does that include successful clubs? If so then surely that’s a good thing? We aren't doing what clubs that are out performing there budget are doing. In fact so far we are doing a man utd on less money. We need to be looking at Brentford and Brighton and shamelessly copying what they do. Get a hand up onto their shoulders and then stand up head and shoulders above them by making what they have got better. All I see at the moment, is trying not to lose, safe recruitment and mediocrity. Maybe check how much Brighton have spent on their model. You certainly know what's required, go fund it and crack on.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 9:17:54 GMT 1
Nice blokes finish last.... Statistically proven. Now you wanna rely on statistics? Last time we chatted, it was on the point of you belating statistics in making judgments. By Cartwright no less. Wanna present those statistics. Or are you just chatting bullshit. As per. 1000s of research papers on the subject. Take your pick. Statistics are fine if you use them properly, getting a manager baseed solely on him been not a nice bloke would be a mistake. All things been equal who's more likely to win a game? Someone who plays within the rules or someone who pushes the boundaries. In business a ruthless business man or a nice business man. Its not a defined trait that nice guys can't finish first, but large aspects of competitive life are defined by not been a nice guy and unfortunately that gives you an edge and a foot up.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 9:29:41 GMT 1
We aren't doing what clubs that are out performing there budget are doing. In fact so far we are doing a man utd on less money. We need to be looking at Brentford and Brighton and shamelessly copying what they do. Get a hand up onto their shoulders and then stand up head and shoulders above them by making what they have got better. All I see at the moment, is trying not to lose, safe recruitment and mediocrity. Maybe check how much Brighton have spent on their model. You certainly know what's required, go fund it and crack on. It relative to your budget..how much have man utd spent on their model? Luton? If the budget is set at say 13m then we need to be revolutionary to compete at the top end of a table where budget is a pretty defining factor. Webber went to Germany where value was a defining feature, Brighton buy seriously talented raw players on the way up and offer them minutes they wouldn't get if they joined one of the big boys and then allow them to move on for huge profits when they have the credit in the bank to start for one of the big boys, bit are continuously improving and fine tuning recruitment and reinvesting. What i took from cartwright was recruitment of 10 years ago if you wanted to compete. Buying players that have fallen out of favour and offer them a platform at Huddersfield to reinvigorate themselves. Its pretty standard second teir thinking. Maybe he will come up with 4 players from outer Mongolia with bags of raw potential and suprise us all rather than wiles who's career was stalling, Edwards who's career hasnt really started, Burgzorg who has abolity but we are a playform for him to show it, when hes onviously failed in the past or he wouldnh be here and maxwell who's a safe bet for back-up
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 9:38:26 GMT 1
One question on this video?
Why didn't he do it with the and he takes that chance podcast?
I'd be interested to know if they were offered the opportunity, as I know they have reached out to get something along these lines? That would have been a much better interview. Or was this one chosen as its his mate and can control the narrative?
If they were offered the chance, then my conspiracy theory is blown out the water.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 9:39:55 GMT 1
bit like you !!? All spout and no end product!! Hes forgotten more than you will ever know It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky. If you were buying an unknown business in a foreign country would you look for a risky revolutionary or a safe pair of hands? I know which way I would start, how that progresses may be different but it’s certainly how sensible business people would start.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 29, 2023 9:41:45 GMT 1
One question on this video? Why didn't he do it with the and he takes that chance podcast? I'd be interested to know if they were offered the opportunity, as I know they have reached out to get something along these lines? That would have been a much better interview. Or was this one chosen as its his mate and can control the narrative? If they were offered the chance, then my conspiracy theory is blown out the water. Cartwright hasn't done anything yet to date. That's a given. January is his time to prove his worth and back up his talk. But you have taken the dislike to a new level. Earlier you mentioned swinging his 'small cock' about. Who told you he had a small cock? You're wife/partner? Is that why you dislike him so so much?
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 9:53:18 GMT 1
One question on this video? Why didn't he do it with the and he takes that chance podcast? I'd be interested to know if they were offered the opportunity, as I know they have reached out to get something along these lines? That would have been a much better interview. Or was this one chosen as its his mate and can control the narrative? If they were offered the chance, then my conspiracy theory is blown out the water. Cartwright hasn't done anything yet to date. That's a given. January is his time to prove his worth and back up his talk. But you have taken the dislike to a new level. Earlier you mentioned swinging his 'small cock' about. Who told you he had a small cock? You're wife/partner? Is that why you dislike him so so much? I dont dislike any of them to be fair, they are a quite likeable bunch... but I don't see anything across the board to suggest they are anything more than mildly competent. there is nothing revolutionary.... Edwards appears very good for his role? Not sure on his ability to be revolutionary or infact how wide his remit can be to be so, certainly on the playing side.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 10:00:02 GMT 1
It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky. If you were buying an unknown business in a foreign country would you look for a risky revolutionary or a safe pair of hands? I know which way I would start, how that progresses may be different but it’s certainly how sensible business people would start. Personally, no I wouldn't, im a risk taker. I'd have been focused enough not to employ a couple of mates and I'd have either run a recruitment process or more likely headhunted someone whos done something revolutionary, if they did the analysis and came up with Moore I'd have immediately sacked them because that doesn't align with the Premier league in 3 years/doing it differently that Nagle said he wanted and certainly what my vision would be. Unfortunately it's nagles billions funding the show and not potless townrwe, although I still maintain potless Phil was the best chairman, better than Hoyle, just ashame he ran out of luck/cash.
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Post by royrace on Nov 29, 2023 10:00:06 GMT 1
It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky. If you were buying an unknown business in a foreign country would you look for a risky revolutionary or a safe pair of hands? I know which way I would start, how that progresses may be different but it’s certainly how sensible business people would start. They had that with Neil and Ronnie then shot themselves in the foot.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 29, 2023 10:00:47 GMT 1
We aren't doing what clubs that are out performing there budget are doing. In fact so far we are doing a man utd on less money. We need to be looking at Brentford and Brighton and shamelessly copying what they do. Get a hand up onto their shoulders and then stand up head and shoulders above them by making what they have got better. All I see at the moment, is trying not to lose, safe recruitment and mediocrity. Maybe check how much Brighton have spent on their model. You certainly know what's required, go fund it and crack on. Perhaps the billionaire that owns us could fund it instead.
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Post by Sparrow on Nov 29, 2023 10:59:52 GMT 1
Cartwright hasn't done anything yet to date. That's a given. January is his time to prove his worth and back up his talk. But you have taken the dislike to a new level. Earlier you mentioned swinging his 'small cock' about. Who told you he had a small cock? You're wife/partner? Is that why you dislike him so so much? I dont dislike any of them to be fair, they are a quite likeable bunch... but I don't see anything across the board to suggest they are anything more than mildly competent. there is nothing revolutionary.... Edwards appears very good for his role? Not sure on his ability to be revolutionary or infact how wide his remit can be to be so, certainly on the playing side. Can I ask, what type of things, realistically, would be revolutionary for Huddersfield Town to do? You've mentioned following the likes of Brentford and Brighton. But that's not revolutionary. Brentford disbanded their Academy and set up a B team model. Recruited from countries such as France and Holland. And were early adopters of using Data. We did the same by disbanding our Academy, set up a B Team model and started to recruit youngsters from France, Holland and Sweden, before that got stopped due to Brexit. As well as starting to use more Data. Brighton were another early adopter of Data and invested very very heavily in it and their playing squad. They've spent over £425M since we were both promoted to the PL. Plus around £25m in the 4 seasons up to promotion to the PL. So they spent over £20m more than us over 4 season to get promoted. Then in our first season in the PL they spent another £20m more then we did to stay up, plus an additional £35m more than us in the second season. Over 6 seasons leading up to promotion to and then our eventual relegation from the PL they spent £75m more than we did. And then a further £300m since we got relegated and they finished 17th & 2 points above relegation. So that's hardly revolutionary. So what are these revolutionary things you keep referring to?
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Post by prepare on Nov 29, 2023 11:55:08 GMT 1
bit like you !!? All spout and no end product!! Hes forgotten more than you will ever know It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky. if only it was that easy perhaps you could take over!!? On seccond thoughts !!?
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Post by rockwall on Nov 29, 2023 12:13:17 GMT 1
Maybe check how much Brighton have spent on their model. You certainly know what's required, go fund it and crack on. Perhaps the billionaire that owns us could fund it instead. People seem to want everything done now. Brighton and Brentford took years for their models to come to fruition. We need our own identity. We scrapped the academy, went for the Brentford route, noe that's been scrapped and we are back to going down the academy route. These things take years. Unfortunately, a lot of people can't accept that.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 29, 2023 12:16:57 GMT 1
Perhaps the billionaire that owns us could fund it instead. People seem to want everything done now. Brighton and Brentford took years for their models to come to fruition. We need our own identity. We scrapped the academy, went for the Brentford route, noe that's been scrapped and we are back to going down the academy route. These things take years. Unfortunately, a lot of people can't accept that. I'm still waiting to hear what the actual plan is. As I've said before, there's been lots of noise, but very little in the way of substance.
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Post by htafcokay on Nov 29, 2023 12:17:50 GMT 1
It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky. if only it was that easy perhaps you could take over!!? On seccond thoughts !!? Such a cop-out argument though. It's no different to the school yard argument of "he's better than you" when a supporter criticises a player.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 12:20:00 GMT 1
I dont dislike any of them to be fair, they are a quite likeable bunch... but I don't see anything across the board to suggest they are anything more than mildly competent. there is nothing revolutionary.... Edwards appears very good for his role? Not sure on his ability to be revolutionary or infact how wide his remit can be to be so, certainly on the playing side. Can I ask, what type of things, realistically, would be revolutionary for Huddersfield Town to do? You've mentioned following the likes of Brentford and Brighton. But that's not revolutionary. Brentford disbanded their Academy and set up a B team model. Recruited from countries such as France and Holland. And were early adopters of using Data. We did the same by disbanding our Academy, set up a B Team model and started to recruit youngsters from France, Holland and Sweden, before that got stopped due to Brexit. As well as starting to use more Data. Brighton were another early adopter of Data and invested very very heavily in it and their playing squad. They've spent over £425M since we were both promoted to the PL. Plus around £25m in the 4 seasons up to promotion to the PL. So they spent over £20m more than us over 4 season to get promoted. Then in our first season in the PL they spent another £20m more then we did to stay up, plus an additional £35m more than us in the second season. Over 6 seasons leading up to promotion to and then our eventual relegation from the PL they spent £75m more than we did. And then a further £300m since we got relegated and they finished 17th & 2 points above relegation. So that's hardly revolutionary. So what are these revolutionary things you keep referring to? Revolution through evolution. Its no good comparing us to anyone else, our budgets, location, facilities are unique, The positive aspects of Huddersfield are a fairly hard sell unless your offering big wages, a trip to castle hill or a house in birkby and decent chicken from Marstons probably isnt going to be a deal clincher. We are close to Leeds is about the only draw outside of football. So we have to find our USP. Cartwright "appears" to have decided that is giving players that have shown they can play in the past but have fallen out of form or favour a platform to shine at huddersfield, thats his perogative and is what worked for him at stokalona, but its just regurgitating something that was reasonably sucessful 10 years ago. Hes teamed that up with a cheerleader to try to give them confidence to regain their previous form.. certainly nothing revolutionary, but a kind of USP. Recent sucess in many major leagues around the world, for clubs outperforming their budgets has come from committing to a moneyball approach, for that you need an expert in moneyball, not someone regurgitating past success. Firstly i would headhunt people out of the finest moneyball exmaples, it would be difficult to get them out of brighton or brentford, but we may stand a chance of recruiting to a director role if they are currently 2nd on the ship. That would give us a lift up onto the shoulders of these clubs and id ask him to shamelessly implement that process as our club. Id hire computer programmers, High IQ candidates with masters in statistics, and trust the moneyball process. Id get the people that dont understand football to determine the KPIs of positions within the team and understand that they will change as each puzzle piece is entered into the team and that when you enter one piece another one may need changing. Id implement the "Huddersfield Way" of playing, probably a 433, High Press, Attacking, fairly direct style. would be my philosophy, but id actually listen to the fans for what they wanted the philosphy to be and implement the finding pragmatically. On to USP, We could use cartwrights approach, its not a dreadful idea, just lacks the 10 year later thought process' and evolution of his idea, combined with offering raw talent, like rudoni a platform to play regular games. Management wise, you would need more than a motivator if your developing players, so i would be looking for a developing manager as well, doubt the guy from tolouse would come to town, or potter, but those kind of appointments a step earlier. Very basic rundown of what my approach would be.
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Post by rockwall on Nov 29, 2023 12:25:01 GMT 1
People seem to want everything done now. Brighton and Brentford took years for their models to come to fruition. We need our own identity. We scrapped the academy, went for the Brentford route, noe that's been scrapped and we are back to going down the academy route. These things take years. Unfortunately, a lot of people can't accept that. I'm still waiting to hear what the actual plan is. As I've said before, there's been lots of noise, but very little in the way of substance. Has there actually been lots of noise though? 1. On field - agreed, lots of noise about this and x amounts to be spent. But we will need to wait until January to judge that noise. 2. Matchday experience - depends on what you like to do. For many this means naff all, for some, it will enable them to enjoy things pre match. Things have begun to do this, pop up bars and local business selling food. Not for everyone granted. Other things will also take time if it requires buying property to do this, whether it is the Ropewalk, Gas Club etc. 3. Academy - this will be another process that takes time to restructure. Let's see where it is in 12 months. I agree that not a lot is visual yet, but the noise they make, can't really be backed up yet. January onwards, they could potentially have left themselves open for criticism.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2023 12:26:39 GMT 1
It would be interesting to know why you think that is the case... seemed like a pretty average employee in any business, probably fairly reliable, probably does a reasonable job, but not someone that's revolutionary or inspirational or bringing something new to the table. You could replace cartwright with any relatively experienced director of football and you wouldn't even bat an eyelid. Sane for moore, replace him with say rowett and you probably wouldn't see a massive change in results. David wagner was revolutionary, deano recognised that and backed him in a way that he never backed anyone else. Nagel employed people he trusts. He trusts them because he believes they are safe pairs of hands. What we need is revolutionary people, harder to find and more risky. if only it was that easy perhaps you could take over!!? On seccond thoughts !!? There is no-one currently showing any outstanding capacity in their jobs, maybe they will given time, January is a massive month for all involved if they are still in post by then, if they make a shit sandwich of that maybe Kev will send me a message asking me to sort it out. I have managed alot of people and looking back I can only really think of a few that I moved heaven and earth to keep. Most of the time the conversation is, "ive got a new Job" and the respose is "when do you start" and "good luck"
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Post by castlehillterrier on Nov 29, 2023 12:57:01 GMT 1
I am pretty sure Kevin has talked about many items that consitute a plan
On the pitch - Sort out the playing squad more balance, too many players before on high wages not playing games. In progress - Stay in the championship this season the target and still currently about on target for this (it might be tight however) - Invest in players that the manager wants to improve the team (this only really starts in Jan, only Wiles was an investment so far IMHO) - Build an identity on the pitch, this has started but I suspect it will be next season before we start to see this - Gradually climb the table for a challange for promotion in 3-4years time (once the club is ready)
Of the pitch - build a solid base of staff with experience, we have started - Re open the academy, this has been actioned and will happen - Sort the ownership of the stadium (in progress) - Improve matchday experience (difficult without the above) - Improve revenue, better merchandise, higher season ticket prices, better sponsorship deals, lots of work here but the new commercial team have made a start - Invest in the local area to the stadium to build / create a place to go before and after the match and on non match days, this is the biggest way to make more money but it will take time. - Make the club premier league ready so that if / when we are promoted again we are acutally ready to stay there and can take full advantage of this. - support local projects, help local buisness so that commercially the area is lifted (long term goals but nice goals).
Sure there are many other parts but roughly thats what Kevin has said so far in many interviews and meetings with fans.
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