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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 8, 2024 19:24:45 GMT 1
I do agree with the gist of your post. But. Sin bins do work well in rugby and would allow the game to continue for var to consider a sending off Im sensing dramatic music coming soon as VAR deliberates, rising to a firework spectacular finale as the Penalty is given, goal stands/disallowed etc.. Think the betting companies have missed out unless you can bet 'not in play on var decisions', be honest there is plenty of money making time in lots of the decision making? Can you bet on how many VAR decisions there will be in a game or a half? Bet you could get good odds against a ref going to the screen and telling VAR they are wrong? I favour the idea of the ref having explosives strapped on. The music builds to a crescendo and If he gets the decision wrong the explosives go off. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Feb 8, 2024 19:26:42 GMT 1
Just seen on the news that the International FA are talking about extending VAR, to corners, free kicks and second yellow cards. For god sake NO!! Blood Hell Lossie - What bones are leftover by The Carnivors of Scottish Top League Football which munchie’s itself to bits will be ground into dust by this info... At least it won’t have any effect on Clachnacuddin FC & Lossiemouth !!! 😊 |
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Post by Spike24 on Feb 8, 2024 19:30:55 GMT 1
Yes its like theyre actively trying to destroy the game, particularly for the fans who actually go to the games. We should take the lead on VAR. Whilst internationally they expand it, we should ditch it altogether. And blue cards will just be one more thing they get wrong..another layer of controversy the game doesnt need. I do agree with the gist of your post. But. Sin bins do work well in rugby and would allow the game to continue for var to consider a sending off sin bin is for a yellow card in rugby, not some silly halfway house of a referees arse falling out. Top 5 teams will get blue cards and the rest will get reds just like they do with var decisions. Games gone to the dogs! |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 8, 2024 19:33:42 GMT 1
Im sensing dramatic music coming soon as VAR deliberates, rising to a firework spectacular finale as the Penalty is given, goal stands/disallowed etc.. Think the betting companies have missed out unless you can bet 'not in play on var decisions', be honest there is plenty of money making time in lots of the decision making? Can you bet on how many VAR decisions there will be in a game or a half? Bet you could get good odds against a ref going to the screen and telling VAR they are wrong? I favour the idea of the ref having explosives strapped on. The music builds to a crescendo and If he gets the decision wrong the explosives go off. Will the betting fraternity go for it?? Possibly odds on how many limbs come off etc??🤔 |
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Post by markthehorn on Feb 8, 2024 19:41:44 GMT 1
Does it work well in rugby? Think the communication to the fans is better but they still have long drawn out delays whilst they watch the footage 50 times. Presumably rugby fans have the same problem that they cant actually celebrate a try properly because they know theres every chance Var will find some minor indiscretion in the build up and disallow it. Its works well in cricket and tennis but theyre both games that stop and start all the time anyway. I don't think rugby fans really celebrate in the same way as football - well not at Twickers anyway! I mean yes you don't want endless delays and things like offsides can be sped up by also what every other country in Europe does - automated offside but then you just know if a decision is rushed x team will complain that they decided too quickly. Really this all should have thought about before it came in... Rather than thinking VAR would be perfect with no problems and talking points. |
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Post by jasrick on Feb 8, 2024 20:37:14 GMT 1
Whilst this idea obviously doesn’t some very popular, something does need to be done about cynical hacks that only get yellow cards.
Lots of players/teams now see ‘taking a yellow’ as a good trade off, the lesser of two evils. It’s not a good position for the game to be in when the rules encourage committing a foul.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 8, 2024 20:37:31 GMT 1
I do agree with the gist of your post. But. Sin bins do work well in rugby and would allow the game to continue for var to consider a sending off sin bin is for a yellow card in rugby, not some silly halfway house of a referees arse falling out. Top 5 teams will get blue cards and the rest will get reds just like they do with var decisions. Games gone to the dogs! No reds until the blue has been assessed by var would work |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 8, 2024 20:41:50 GMT 1
sin bin is for a yellow card in rugby, not some silly halfway house of a referees arse falling out. Top 5 teams will get blue cards and the rest will get reds just like they do with var decisions. Games gone to the dogs! No reds until the blue has been assessed by var would work So the FA will bring in no goals until the blue timer runs out. They will just mess it all up. I was in favour of VAR before the FA's poor implementation. |
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Post by drumriggend on Feb 8, 2024 20:47:05 GMT 1
Think we should install traffic lights Ont pitch..
Anyone on a yellow or blue has to wait for lights to change..
Before they can run after ball..
Then when it goes green it’s open season..
Red lights spell danger..
Feel the red light ..
Errrrrr..
What were we talking about..
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 8, 2024 21:07:31 GMT 1
Maybe if there weren’t 22 players on the pitch cheating, VAR wouldn’t be needed.
All these things work in other sports because the players don’t behave like petulant teenagers if a decision goes against them, and they also know (in Rugby), that time wasting isn’t a thing, so they can’t manipulate the sin bin clocks easy as they would in football.
As others have said, the game’s gone too far down the slippery slope with money really. It won’t come back to any sense of sportsmanship in my lifetime.
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 8, 2024 21:28:17 GMT 1
This idea would probably have worked in pre-VAR football.
Referee could have handed out a sinbin to any player he felt had over stepped the mark by way of dissent etc.
But how the fuck are an already useless VAR team going to cope with another potential outcome? They cant cope as it is now.
"Ref - can you go over to the monitor and watch Bruno Fernandes call you a useless prick again please? We think he actually aimed it at Harry Maguire who was stood behind you at the time"
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Post by softboy on Feb 8, 2024 23:27:24 GMT 1
Ref just go over to the screen and waste 5 mins just to check the goalkeeper has just wasted 1 min taking that goal kick
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Post by Spike24 on Feb 9, 2024 5:40:34 GMT 1
No reds until the blue has been assessed by var would work So the FA will bring in no goals until the blue timer runs out. They will just mess it all up. I was in favour of VAR before the FA's poor implementation. just sin bin for a yellow then, if the aim is to crack down on cynicism on the pitch, then surely most things worthy of a yellow should incur the sin bin |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 9, 2024 10:11:44 GMT 1
So the FA will bring in no goals until the blue timer runs out. They will just mess it all up. I was in favour of VAR before the FA's poor implementation. just sin bin for a yellow then, if the aim is to crack down on cynicism on the pitch, then surely most things worthy of a yellow should incur the sin bin Thats not a bad idea, although the way some refs dish out yellows for things that used to be just a foul, it'd be 5 v 5 some of the time! |
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Post by softboy on Feb 9, 2024 12:40:32 GMT 1
Does foul and abusive language come into this as with a lot more foreign players coming to UK (from all over the world now) I have always thought how hard it must be for a referee to know every swear word in every language that any player can speak.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 9, 2024 14:37:42 GMT 1
I cannot believe that the cynical and utterly bleeding obvious foul(taking one for the team!, thats shite anyway) only gets a yellow, the same as the minutely mistimed, very close to playing the ball tackle does, or time wasting that is now being added on, quite rightly, at the end.
This shirt pulling, rugby tackling and just having a kick at, from miles away from the ball pisses me off to some tune.
How many breaks in the game are stopped by obvious fouls, even the little shoves or obstructions nowhere near playing the ball need stopping.
We can see the obvious 'team foul', the commentators and 'experts' remark on them every game, get the fuckers outlawed with a suitable punishment in THAT GAME.
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Post by softboy on Feb 9, 2024 14:50:36 GMT 1
For time wasting will the blue card come in before or after a yellow card?
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 9, 2024 15:17:14 GMT 1
I cannot believe that the cynical and utterly bleeding obvious foul(taking one for the team!, thats shite anyway) only gets a yellow, the same as the minutely mistimed, very close to playing the ball tackle does, or time wasting that is now being added on, quite rightly, at the end. This shirt pulling, rugby tackling and just having a kick at, from miles away from the ball pisses me off to some tune. How many breaks in the game are stopped by obvious fouls, even the little shoves or obstructions nowhere near playing the ball need stopping. We can see the obvious 'team foul', the commentators and 'experts' remark on them every game, get the fuckers outlawed with a suitable punishment in THAT GAME. Suppose its always been the case, but is even more pronounced now that refs book players for practically any foul, even if its mistimed by a millisecond and not dangerous in any way. You used to have to do something pretty violent to get a yellow card. A good example would be the deliberate foul on Burgzorg in our 3-0 win over blackburn. hes still out and the bloke only got a yellow. Theres a good argument a deliberate hacking down foul like that should be a straight red anyway as its intentional with no attempt to play the ball and risks the other players fitness..as has been proved in that case! |
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I like the idea of Neil Warnock being introduced to Gianni Infantino after the Aberdeen match 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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