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Post by htfcterry on Jan 15, 2024 15:11:17 GMT 1
I thought you'd pipe up. He's come on here and wants to hear what Town fans think. So I've told him what one Town fan thinks. No-one is battering anyone. He's also said he's not really much to do with the footballing side so why go on about it, you're also repeating yourself over and over again as if you're speaking for everyone, but you're not, it's only your opinion so just make it and move on. Instead you repeat and repeat (not just this thread many many others) until someone nibbles then you go off on one. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's a bad idea, I don't see the need to keep repeating yourself. You've made a post and given your opinion. Fine, done, leave it. The "results on the pitch will change everything" just isn't true either, there's many, many other ways to get people coming to the ground which is clearly what they're exploring and trying out. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, some things will work, some won't, but let them try without picking everything apart over and over again. I mean historically - it is true. Look at the attendance figures from 2016. Even if you look from the start of the season there is a steady increase because we were winning games (and SJ was doing some good ticket deals for the lower tier behind the goal) & then obviously the first season of the PL was a sell out every week. However, second season a few more empty seats appeared because results weren't going right and there has been a steady decline in numbers since, covid season aside. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 15, 2024 15:14:06 GMT 1
You said you're not trying to Americanize anything, but that's exactly what you want to do. Stuff like this has been tried before at clubs, including Town. It doesn't work, as we're there to watch the football. Do you really think people are going to turn up to watch a light show, or some spectacle before the match? You're 25 years too late as Barry Rubery tried all this when he took over and it soon wore off as football fans in this country just aren't interested. Sort the stuff out on the pitch, give us a competitive team at this level and a manager that tries to win games, and I promise you you'll see a difference. The thing is kids see light shows etc on the gaming boxes and premier leagues on tv etc so these things do bring in kids who have to bring parents so yes why not both , ok you may feel it’s cringe but there’s not just you attending . I don’t usually leave me seat at half time so to see something instead of playing on my phone why not 🤷🏻♀️ This light show thing seems to have started around the time we vacated the premier league. Now almost everyone is doing it, or at least they seem to be whenever I watch MNF. So it's not that new really. The Premier League is rammed down peoples throats. The EFL barely registers on TV/Social media. You average 5-15 year old spends hours a week on Instagram and TikTok watching edited clips and 10 second videos. As naff as it may seem the more we can 'look' like a premier league club that does premier league things the better to keep this demographic engaged. The Premier League sets the trends and really, we have to follow. Perception matters so its important to 'look' the part rather than look like some embarrassing none entities with more in common with none league clubs. Even if everyone 30 and above thinks  and just rolls their eyes. I'd rather we looked like a Premier League team in the 90 minutes but thats the hardest part to achieve. The rest is fairly simple. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Jan 15, 2024 15:14:25 GMT 1
I thought you'd pipe up. He's come on here and wants to hear what Town fans think. So I've told him what one Town fan thinks. No-one is battering anyone. He's also said he's not really much to do with the footballing side so why go on about it, you're also repeating yourself over and over again as if you're speaking for everyone, but you're not, it's only your opinion so just make it and move on. Instead you repeat and repeat (not just this thread many many others) until someone nibbles then you go off on one. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's a bad idea, I don't see the need to keep repeating yourself. You've made a post and given your opinion. Fine, done, leave it. The "results on the pitch will change everything" just isn't true either, there's many, many other ways to get people coming to the ground which is clearly what they're exploring and trying out. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, some things will work, some won't, but let them try without picking everything apart over and over again. The facts show that results on the pitch do in fact change everything. Having done a little research the average attendance of the season before the promotion one was 12,631. The average for the promotion season was 20,343. That is a remarkable increase at a time when there were no additional light shows etc, just a charismatic manager and good results. Taking away the premier league seasons 20,343 has remained a seasonal high yet to be beaten, albeit not as much of a gap. Just to clarify I have no issues with light shows etc, I would say I am pretty impartial either way, but you simply cannot argue with the numbers and the significant increase in numbers due to what Wagner achieved on the pitch. |
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Post by drumriggend on Jan 15, 2024 15:16:36 GMT 1
No, he'd then pointlessly swap out all the other bulbs into nonsensical positions and stand there wondering why nothing worked. He’d be putting a bayonet bulb into a screw fitting. Then take it out on 60 minutes and try another bayonet … The screw lightbulb has been leant to Blackpool illuminations. 👏👏👏👏👏 |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 15, 2024 15:19:43 GMT 1
I thought you'd pipe up. He's come on here and wants to hear what Town fans think. So I've told him what one Town fan thinks. No-one is battering anyone. He's also said he's not really much to do with the footballing side so why go on about it, you're also repeating yourself over and over again as if you're speaking for everyone, but you're not, it's only your opinion so just make it and move on. Instead you repeat and repeat (not just this thread many many others) until someone nibbles then you go off on one. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's a bad idea, I don't see the need to keep repeating yourself. You've made a post and given your opinion. Fine, done, leave it. The "results on the pitch will change everything" just isn't true either, there's many, many other ways to get people coming to the ground which is clearly what they're exploring and trying out. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, some things will work, some won't, but let them try without picking everything apart over and over again. Heed your own advice, and stop engaging with me over and over again. You constantly saying I'm negative over and over again is exactly the same thing you're accusing me of. You've made a post and given your opinion. Fine, done, leave it. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 15, 2024 15:37:28 GMT 1
Another point re: the match day experience.
My father in law supports Bromley, and earlier this season he travelled up to Solihull*
to watch their away fixture. My wife and I are not far away (we live in Coventry) so decided to pop over.
When we got there, we found a modern (in a good way) sports bar with decent sized screens, club memorabilia on the walls. They had decent beer, good food, a nice outside eating, drinking and social area. All in all a really impressive place. I could see something similar being put in place at the Rope Walk.
The standard of football at Solihull v Bromley was not great. It really wasn't. But nonetheless we had a really good day out. Would I go again? Yes, and I'd look forward to it.
Similar at Bromley, my sister in law had her wedding reception at their ground and the facilities were great. This was back on 2009 and I understand they've improved further since then.
What's happening on the pitch is my main concern. But the other stuff matters too. And frankly, if you get the other stuff right, you bring in the revenue that allows you more scope to improve things on the pitch.
* Fun Fact: Former Terrier Richard Stearman now plays for Solihull.
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Post by Amigo on Jan 15, 2024 15:55:46 GMT 1
He's also said he's not really much to do with the footballing side so why go on about it, you're also repeating yourself over and over again as if you're speaking for everyone, but you're not, it's only your opinion so just make it and move on. Instead you repeat and repeat (not just this thread many many others) until someone nibbles then you go off on one. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's a bad idea, I don't see the need to keep repeating yourself. You've made a post and given your opinion. Fine, done, leave it. The "results on the pitch will change everything" just isn't true either, there's many, many other ways to get people coming to the ground which is clearly what they're exploring and trying out. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, some things will work, some won't, but let them try without picking everything apart over and over again. The facts show that results on the pitch do in fact change everything. Having done a little research the average attendance of the season before the promotion one was 12,631. The average for the promotion season was 20,343. That is a remarkable increase at a time when there were no additional light shows etc, just a charismatic manager and good results. Taking away the premier league seasons 20,343 has remained a seasonal high yet to be beaten, albeit not as much of a gap. Just to clarify I have no issues with light shows etc, I would say I am pretty impartial either way, but you simply cannot argue with the numbers and the significant increase in numbers due to what Wagner achieved on the pitch. The first 2 attendances in that promotion season were over 18,000 and over 20,000. That was coming off the back of a 4-0 away defeat and a 5-1 home defeat being out last 2 competitive results. Due to the reduction in season ticket prices for that season attendances (whether people went or not) were going to be very high no matter how well we did as we sold over 15,000 season tickets for that season, add in away support and it was always going to be around that figure it ended up anyway. A charismatic manager who had shown how he wanted to play yes (but wasn't really getting results), but also the push for season ticket sales was massive. |
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Post by dugnet on Jan 15, 2024 16:27:57 GMT 1
If there is something Mr Nagle and "justaguy" can take from the last week is how much more enthusiasm and optimism Mr Nagle's interviews and social media created in the space of pretty much a week. The appetite for the club to be successful is still in evidence and people want something to get behind and believe in. If we can get things right on the pitch it showed that there are more than enough still interested in Town to get some momentum going in the right direction.
The promotion season under Wagner saw everyone pulling together. The same feeling wasn't created under Carlos, although had he been supported and allowing for the injustice of Wembley, but there was potential there with some good PR and communication.
I hope Mr Nagle takes heart but also sees that potential. It is that he can use to build on to make this club better overall. Get a winning team with everyone aligned and you attract more sponsors, any facilities added to the stadium will be used more, you can charge more season cards....it is self fulfilling to a degree. That is why he has inherited something that can he can successful with and use that to leverage his profile and potential success at Sacremento.
There's a long way to go but just a week of straight positive talking influenced the mood. It is a pity that what we saw on the pitch deflating things a good bit, but it shows what is possible.
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Post by royrace on Jan 15, 2024 16:39:49 GMT 1
There are a few quick fixes to the existing matchday experience, and they all relate to catering. The catering staff are all too slow and too inexperienced. Saturday I ordered " a two-pinter of Amstel, a two-pionter of Town lager and a meat and potato pie please". I may as well have asked for a snifter of furdle-juice, a full hog roast and a hand shandy for the look of bewilderment I was given. And it's every week. You can look at light shows, cheerleaders, live music and all that but the basics can be fixed easily. In seasons gone by I've had a few that don't know what "lager" is, a blessing really having two types now so you have to say the brand name, which they can hopefully read, but shows the level of training they must receive! Very rarely the same staff either, can only assume the pay and conditions are appalling otherwise they'd surely be able to rustle up a pool of semi regular staff who know what they're doing. No supervision either, blind leading the blind. Hopefully if KN buys the stadium they can bring it all in house and do it properly. I know lots of fans don't and won't spend a penny but there are thousands desperate to buy food and drink who just don't bother due to the queues and shyte products on offer. I'd start by having concessions outside each end of the stand, lots of room there, also sell proper coffee, Costa is rammed pre match |
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Post by royrace on Jan 15, 2024 16:43:31 GMT 1
The thing is kids see light shows etc on the gaming boxes and premier leagues on tv etc so these things do bring in kids who have to bring parents so yes why not both , ok you may feel it’s cringe but there’s not just you attending . I don’t usually leave me seat at half time so to see something instead of playing on my phone why not 🤷🏻♀️ This light show thing seems to have started around the time we vacated the premier league. Now almost everyone is doing it, or at least they seem to be whenever I watch MNF. So it's not that new really. The Premier League is rammed down peoples throats. The EFL barely registers on TV/Social media. You average 5-15 year old spends hours a week on Instagram and TikTok watching edited clips and 10 second videos. As naff as it may seem the more we can 'look' like a premier league club that does premier league things the better to keep this demographic engaged. The Premier League sets the trends and really, we have to follow. Perception matters so its important to 'look' the part rather than look like some embarrassing none entities with more in common with none league clubs. Even if everyone 30 and above thinks and just rolls their eyes. I'd rather we looked like a Premier League team in the 90 minutes but thats the hardest part to achieve. The rest is fairly simple. Exactly, absolutely key to get kids on board and for that the brand has to be spot on. In the old days a quality kit manufacturer, "shiny" kit and glossy programme was enough to impress kids, bit more to it than that these days! |
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Post by goalden on Jan 15, 2024 16:55:59 GMT 1
...also sell proper coffee, Costa is rammed pre match I forget to mention this. Proper decent coffee. Surely there has to be a decent mark up on this - plus can drink it in your seat during the game. Imagine if we had in-seat service (though I sit in the middle and so wouldn't be overly popular)!!! We need to think what the match experience looks like in 10 years time rather than 20 years ago. g. |
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Post by townarentbest on Jan 15, 2024 17:08:22 GMT 1
There are a few quick fixes to the existing matchday experience, and they all relate to catering. The catering staff are all too slow and too inexperienced. Saturday I ordered " a two-pinter of Amstel, a two-pionter of Town lager and a meat and potato pie please". I may as well have asked for a snifter of furdle-juice, a full hog roast and a hand shandy for the look of bewilderment I was given. And it's every week. You can look at light shows, cheerleaders, live music and all that but the basics can be fixed easily. How do you fix getting more experienced, higher quality, communicative staff to go and work for 3 hours a week for a pittance, in a crowded, low quality working environment, most of which will be taken up by spiky people shouting at them? Doesn't seem that easy to me. Good people in that sector will be following the good jobs. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 15, 2024 17:13:46 GMT 1
Would probably buy a coffee every single game if I could get something more or less Costa/Starbucks level and not have to queue 15 minutes for it, like I did for a Bovril the other week. Only for the card reader to go down when I got to the front, and them just look blank before trying to make me go to the back of one of the other queues.
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Post by townarentbest on Jan 15, 2024 17:15:51 GMT 1
I say all this despite being as horrified as everyone else that at one point on Saturday every player was playing out of position except Helix and Nicols. To be fair you'd expect Helix to twist and spiral into various positions through the game 👀😵💫 |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 15, 2024 17:19:38 GMT 1
There are a few quick fixes to the existing matchday experience, and they all relate to catering. The catering staff are all too slow and too inexperienced. Saturday I ordered " a two-pinter of Amstel, a two-pionter of Town lager and a meat and potato pie please". I may as well have asked for a snifter of furdle-juice, a full hog roast and a hand shandy for the look of bewilderment I was given. And it's every week. You can look at light shows, cheerleaders, live music and all that but the basics can be fixed easily. How do you fix getting more experienced, higher quality, communicative staff to go and work for 3 hours a week for a pittance, in a crowded, low quality working environment, most of which will be taken up by spiky people shouting at them? Doesn't seem that easy to me. Good people in that sector will be following the good jobs. Pre pour pints on 35 minutes. The club know, on average, how many of each sell. Pre pull 50% of that number on 35 minutes. Have a beer only kiosk. Not the tiny one in the Riverside, a full size kiosk just for alcohol. Have a non alcohol kiosk. Have one person taking the order and taking payment, one person getting food, one person getting drink. It is more efficient. They don’t even have to move from their station. These are really, really simple things that would dramatically change the process. |
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Post by royrace on Jan 15, 2024 17:19:48 GMT 1
There are a few quick fixes to the existing matchday experience, and they all relate to catering. The catering staff are all too slow and too inexperienced. Saturday I ordered " a two-pinter of Amstel, a two-pionter of Town lager and a meat and potato pie please". I may as well have asked for a snifter of furdle-juice, a full hog roast and a hand shandy for the look of bewilderment I was given. And it's every week. You can look at light shows, cheerleaders, live music and all that but the basics can be fixed easily. How do you fix getting more experienced, higher quality, communicative staff to go and work for 3 hours a week for a pittance, in a crowded, low quality working environment, most of which will be taken up by spiky people shouting at them? Doesn't seem that easy to me. Good people in that sector will be following the good jobs. Just don't use an agency, offer more hours, provide some perks, pay a bit more, manage them properly. There's plenty of local students to choose from. Whenever I go to away games the staff are pretty much always better. I suspect whoever runs it at town just grabs a load of agency staff, chucks them in the deep end, pays them minimum wage and doesn't bother managing them. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 15, 2024 17:21:40 GMT 1
There are a few quick fixes to the existing matchday experience, and they all relate to catering. The catering staff are all too slow and too inexperienced. Saturday I ordered " a two-pinter of Amstel, a two-pionter of Town lager and a meat and potato pie please". I may as well have asked for a snifter of furdle-juice, a full hog roast and a hand shandy for the look of bewilderment I was given. And it's every week. You can look at light shows, cheerleaders, live music and all that but the basics can be fixed easily. Probably wondering a two-pionter was 😉😁 |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 17:57:29 GMT 1
I’ve been a big advocate of the clear increase in match day experiences around the ground, specifically pre match, and vocal regarding the absolute need for this. At the end of the day we have to increase revenue. It’s a business. The kids love it, from the fan park, to the kick about, to the guys and girls dressed up taking photos, player autographs etc. The kids that come with us want to get down there early, it’s part of the match day now for us. Not only does it give us all time to spend together which is great, it’s planting a seed for the future. The more people get involved, the better future for the club. The fans who have a pint in town centre, walk to the ground just in time for kick off, moan about the beer on offer, spend nothing, moan about the team, want to spend max £300 on a season ticket…that’s all well and good but don’t harp on about the club spending money, keeping ticket prices low, getting a winning team in the pitch. To be honest, you wouldn’t be my long term target market as a business owner. The future is the kids and a diverse fan base, an income for the club long term. So what if they put on a light show? We aren’t all the Stone Island crew, worried about other clubs perception of us, still stuck in the 80’s/90’s mindset. At the end of the day we aren’t playing well. It won’t last forever. A lot of us have seen this long enough to know football is just a cycle, some years good, some years bad. Yes, there are football questions that need answering. There’s some clear football issues that need addressing. But from a marketing, entertainment and hospitality perspective it’s going in the right direction. Revenue is key. I could not have conveyed this any better myself. Long term sustainability. |
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Post by mosher on Jan 15, 2024 17:57:34 GMT 1
I say all this despite being as horrified as everyone else that at one point on Saturday every player was playing out of position except Helix and Nicols. To be fair you'd expect Helix to twist and spiral into various positions through the game 👀😵💫 That's gonna fly over so many peoples' heads  |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 18:00:57 GMT 1
I’ve been a big advocate of the clear increase in match day experiences around the ground, specifically pre match, and vocal regarding the absolute need for this. At the end of the day we have to increase revenue. It’s a business. The kids love it, from the fan park, to the kick about, to the guys and girls dressed up taking photos, player autographs etc. The kids that come with us want to get down there early, it’s part of the match day now for us. Not only does it give us all time to spend together which is great, it’s planting a seed for the future. The more people get involved, the better future for the club. The fans who have a pint in town centre, walk to the ground just in time for kick off, moan about the beer on offer, spend nothing, moan about the team, want to spend max £300 on a season ticket…that’s all well and good but don’t harp on about the club spending money, keeping ticket prices low, getting a winning team in the pitch. To be honest, you wouldn’t be my long term target market as a business owner. The future is the kids and a diverse fan base, an income for the club long term. So what if they put on a light show? We aren’t all the Stone Island crew, worried about other clubs perception of us, still stuck in the 80’s/90’s mindset. At the end of the day we aren’t playing well. It won’t last forever. A lot of us have seen this long enough to know football is just a cycle, some years good, some years bad. Yes, there are football questions that need answering. There’s some clear football issues that need addressing. But from a marketing, entertainment and hospitality perspective it’s going in the right direction. Revenue is key. Re the light show… The pre match build up they do at the Sheffield Steelers with music, lights etc is actually pretty cool. I do draw the line though at music after scoring a goal. (Although, we score so few currently that would hardly be noticed!) Post-goal music is not on the table. One of the obvious we’ve learned is the only post goal music we need is YOU Of course, we need goals for that too |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 18:04:40 GMT 1
Embarrassing to see the guy getting absolutely peppered with these responses. He works in the media back home (radio show) & does similar chats online regarding Sac/Kings plus other topics, says he has no influence or input re; on the pitch......That we should respect. Haha no apologies needed. It was a terribly kept secret anyway. I just didn’t want to overstep. Best to think I’m a new guy trying to be one of you, who happens to have a line to the chairman. Just a conduit, but mainly as I’ve always said here to read, listen and learn. However since I just returned and got to finally experience a match and many of you in person, it’s hard for me not to speak openly, if for no other reason to communicate how much pride I felt in you all, how much you love your club, and how much I KNOW that Kevin, the wonderful staff at Town, and all else involved will work to get things where they need to be. I’m really so very excited. |
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Post by royrace on Jan 15, 2024 18:06:23 GMT 1
I’ve been a big advocate of the clear increase in match day experiences around the ground, specifically pre match, and vocal regarding the absolute need for this. At the end of the day we have to increase revenue. It’s a business. The kids love it, from the fan park, to the kick about, to the guys and girls dressed up taking photos, player autographs etc. The kids that come with us want to get down there early, it’s part of the match day now for us. Not only does it give us all time to spend together which is great, it’s planting a seed for the future. The more people get involved, the better future for the club. The fans who have a pint in town centre, walk to the ground just in time for kick off, moan about the beer on offer, spend nothing, moan about the team, want to spend max £300 on a season ticket…that’s all well and good but don’t harp on about the club spending money, keeping ticket prices low, getting a winning team in the pitch. To be honest, you wouldn’t be my long term target market as a business owner. The future is the kids and a diverse fan base, an income for the club long term. So what if they put on a light show? We aren’t all the Stone Island crew, worried about other clubs perception of us, still stuck in the 80’s/90’s mindset. At the end of the day we aren’t playing well. It won’t last forever. A lot of us have seen this long enough to know football is just a cycle, some years good, some years bad. Yes, there are football questions that need answering. There’s some clear football issues that need addressing. But from a marketing, entertainment and hospitality perspective it’s going in the right direction. Revenue is key. I could not have conveyed this any better myself. Long term sustainability. Just as long as it's understood that championship clubs are never sustainable in the traditional sense of the word, nor are PL clubs. You can drive revenue to minimise losses and allow more scope in building the squad but there will always be a loss. That's football in 2024 sadly. Usually a sustainable business always makes a profit and never a loss but football is a ridiculous industry, any profits gobbled up by players and agents. Sad state of affairs! I'm sure KN is well aware of this!!! |
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Post by bigtruck on Jan 15, 2024 18:07:04 GMT 1
He's also said he's not really much to do with the footballing side so why go on about it, you're also repeating yourself over and over again as if you're speaking for everyone, but you're not, it's only your opinion so just make it and move on. Instead you repeat and repeat (not just this thread many many others) until someone nibbles then you go off on one. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's a bad idea, I don't see the need to keep repeating yourself. You've made a post and given your opinion. Fine, done, leave it. The "results on the pitch will change everything" just isn't true either, there's many, many other ways to get people coming to the ground which is clearly what they're exploring and trying out. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, some things will work, some won't, but let them try without picking everything apart over and over again. The facts show that results on the pitch do in fact change everything. Having done a little research the average attendance of the season before the promotion one was 12,631. The average for the promotion season was 20,343. That is a remarkable increase at a time when there were no additional light shows etc, just a charismatic manager and good results. Taking away the premier league seasons 20,343 has remained a seasonal high yet to be beaten, albeit not as much of a gap. Just to clarify I have no issues with light shows etc, I would say I am pretty impartial either way, but you simply cannot argue with the numbers and the significant increase in numbers due to what Wagner achieved on the pitch. Numbers don’t guarantee an atmosphere which is what we’re talking about. Man City is a prime example. Best team in world. Win every game. Stadium “full”. Atmosphere shite. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 15, 2024 18:25:58 GMT 1
...also sell proper coffee, Costa is rammed pre match I forget to mention this. Proper decent coffee. Surely there has to be a decent mark up on this - plus can drink it in your seat during the game. Imagine if we had in-seat service (though I sit in the middle and so wouldn't be overly popular)!!! We need to think what the match experience looks like in 10 years time rather than 20 years ago. g. Not sure I like the thought of being showered in scalding hot coffee when we score a goal or during an exciting passage of play. Ok, we're probably safe from that now, but that sounds really dangerous if we ever stop being shit. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jan 15, 2024 18:26:27 GMT 1
Fair to say that the biggest lesson learned from this thread is that DATM is full of knobheads 🤦♂️
We’ll be for sale in a week if Dave finds the off topic board…
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Post by harris on Jan 15, 2024 18:27:58 GMT 1
I’ve been a big advocate of the clear increase in match day experiences around the ground, specifically pre match, and vocal regarding the absolute need for this. At the end of the day we have to increase revenue. It’s a business. The kids love it, from the fan park, to the kick about, to the guys and girls dressed up taking photos, player autographs etc. The kids that come with us want to get down there early, it’s part of the match day now for us. Not only does it give us all time to spend together which is great, it’s planting a seed for the future. The more people get involved, the better future for the club. The fans who have a pint in town centre, walk to the ground just in time for kick off, moan about the beer on offer, spend nothing, moan about the team, want to spend max £300 on a season ticket…that’s all well and good but don’t harp on about the club spending money, keeping ticket prices low, getting a winning team in the pitch. To be honest, you wouldn’t be my long term target market as a business owner. The future is the kids and a diverse fan base, an income for the club long term. So what if they put on a light show? We aren’t all the Stone Island crew, worried about other clubs perception of us, still stuck in the 80’s/90’s mindset. At the end of the day we aren’t playing well. It won’t last forever. A lot of us have seen this long enough to know football is just a cycle, some years good, some years bad. Yes, there are football questions that need answering. There’s some clear football issues that need addressing. But from a marketing, entertainment and hospitality perspective it’s going in the right direction. Revenue is key. Exactly this. Does annoy me that people will complain at anything the club tries, refuse to buy anything the club offer, even stop going to games - then expect the owner to splash millions on the team. Then take the piss when we have a light show for the kids, or take the piss out of the fan zone etc. Then the usual suspects, particular on X, will even slate the club for announcing a commercial deal. Really bizarre. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jan 15, 2024 18:38:24 GMT 1
I’ve been a big advocate of the clear increase in match day experiences around the ground, specifically pre match, and vocal regarding the absolute need for this. At the end of the day we have to increase revenue. It’s a business. The kids love it, from the fan park, to the kick about, to the guys and girls dressed up taking photos, player autographs etc. The kids that come with us want to get down there early, it’s part of the match day now for us. Not only does it give us all time to spend together which is great, it’s planting a seed for the future. The more people get involved, the better future for the club. The fans who have a pint in town centre, walk to the ground just in time for kick off, moan about the beer on offer, spend nothing, moan about the team, want to spend max £300 on a season ticket…that’s all well and good but don’t harp on about the club spending money, keeping ticket prices low, getting a winning team in the pitch. To be honest, you wouldn’t be my long term target market as a business owner. The future is the kids and a diverse fan base, an income for the club long term. So what if they put on a light show? We aren’t all the Stone Island crew, worried about other clubs perception of us, still stuck in the 80’s/90’s mindset. At the end of the day we aren’t playing well. It won’t last forever. A lot of us have seen this long enough to know football is just a cycle, some years good, some years bad. Yes, there are football questions that need answering. There’s some clear football issues that need addressing. But from a marketing, entertainment and hospitality perspective it’s going in the right direction. Revenue is key. Exactly this. Does annoy me that people will complain at anything the club tries, refuse to buy anything the club offer, even stop going to games - then expect the owner to splash millions on the team. Then take the piss when we have a light show for the kids, or take the piss out of the fan zone etc. Then the usual suspects, particular on X, will even slate the club for announcing a commercial deal. Really bizarre. I’m on a hiatus from X due to the increase in poisonous football related posts |
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Post by Justasmithers on Jan 15, 2024 18:41:00 GMT 1
There are a few quick fixes to the existing matchday experience, and they all relate to catering. The catering staff are all too slow and too inexperienced. Saturday I ordered " a two-pinter of Amstel, a two-pionter of Town lager and a meat and potato pie please". I may as well have asked for a snifter of furdle-juice, a full hog roast and a hand shandy for the look of bewilderment I was given. And it's every week. You can look at light shows, cheerleaders, live music and all that but the basics can be fixed easily. One of the reasons I was walking around was observing concessions. In fact, someone caught me timing beer pours. On average it took 38.8 seconds from the time one got to the front of the line until the time they walked away. The staff are working hard and doing the best they can, but I assure you this is a great point of interest, and things like self-pour and eliminating point of contact sale, along with pre-poured pints are all being looked at. Bottom line- noticed, acknowledged, and will get better, and that’s just one of many “non-obvious” things they are working on to improve your experience. |
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Post by runner76 on Jan 15, 2024 18:42:06 GMT 1
Exactly this. Does annoy me that people will complain at anything the club tries, refuse to buy anything the club offer, even stop going to games - then expect the owner to splash millions on the team. Then take the piss when we have a light show for the kids, or take the piss out of the fan zone etc. Then the usual suspects, particular on X, will even slate the club for announcing a commercial deal. Really bizarre. I’m on a hiatus from X due to the increase in poisonous football related posts The twat filter algorithm is yet to be invented for a lot of social media!!!…… |
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Post by royrace on Jan 15, 2024 18:45:22 GMT 1
I forget to mention this. Proper decent coffee. Surely there has to be a decent mark up on this - plus can drink it in your seat during the game. Imagine if we had in-seat service (though I sit in the middle and so wouldn't be overly popular)!!! We need to think what the match experience looks like in 10 years time rather than 20 years ago. g. Not sure I like the thought of being showered in scalding hot coffee when we score a goal or during an exciting passage of play. Ok, we're probably safe from that now, but that sounds really dangerous if we ever stop being shit. Work in health and safety by any chance Lots of things are dangerous if used by half wits, I think the majority would be able to avoid scalding the person in front! |
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and just rolls their eyes.
