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Post by Porrohman on Jan 21, 2024 11:10:05 GMT 1
Local, and with a good CV - Heckingbottom Has he ? Did ok with Barnsley, flopped at Leeds and Hibs, took Blunts up with a squad from the PL 🤷 |
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Post by Dan on Jan 21, 2024 11:12:32 GMT 1
Get me a Carlos-esque football nerd from Spain/Germany/Scandanavia to get the best out of this increasingly promising squad please.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 21, 2024 11:13:02 GMT 1
Hasenhuttl and Cooper will be waiting for much bigger jobs than us Ralf hasn't worked since Nov 2022, how big a job is he waiting for ? |
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Post by willo on Jan 21, 2024 11:17:57 GMT 1
Problem is the longer we leave it the more likely we’ll end up with a short term fix. If we’re thinking long term is 18 games enough to bring in someone with a new style to mould the players and stave off relegation. We know how long it can take but we haven’t seen evidence this group have the ability as yet to react to new progressive styles of play (granted, the managers they’ve had to learn off haven’t been good enough so it’s not to say they can’t) And there in lies the problem. Because we royally messed up with the appointment of Moore, we can’t really take a chance on an unknown at this point and hope it somehow clicks. If Moore had even done half the job he was supposed to do, an exciting Wagner type appointment from the continent next up would have been perfect. Sadly, we don’t have that luxury at present. |
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Post by willo on Jan 21, 2024 11:19:20 GMT 1
Hasenhuttl and Cooper will be waiting for much bigger jobs than us Ralf hasn't worked since Nov 2022, how big a job is he waiting for ? As has been proven in the past, wait too long and you get forgotten about. They say a week is a long time in football. |
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jan 21, 2024 11:22:52 GMT 1
Ralf hasn't worked since Nov 2022, how big a job is he waiting for ? As has been proven in the past, wait too long and you get forgotten about. They say a week is a long time in football. Aye, is Alan Curbishley still waiting for a Prem job? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 21, 2024 11:22:56 GMT 1
It wouldn’t at all surprise me if Jesse Marsch turned up. Please God, no. |
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Post by willo on Jan 21, 2024 11:30:56 GMT 1
As has been proven in the past, wait too long and you get forgotten about. They say a week is a long time in football. Aye, is Alan Curbishley still waiting for a Prem job? Strangely enough he was the one in my head but I thought most on here would have forgotten him or never even heard of him! Where is he these days? 😆 |
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 21, 2024 11:31:33 GMT 1
Come off it rab. It’s dead easy. Just sack DM and employ someone and we’ll fly up the league. 😂😂😂😂😂 It’s more hilarious that some people don’t think we could employ someone better than a man with a win rate of 3 in 21. Up there with the worst in the country! We may well employ someone worse is my point. This idea that it’s dead easy to employ someone who is going to get us flying is bizarre. How many times since 1977 when I started going have we had a manager who I think did well?? |
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Post by royalflush on Jan 21, 2024 11:44:24 GMT 1
Whilst I'm on board with Moore needing to go, there's some guff on this thread. "Warnock would have had us comfortably top 10"...would he? With no fit strikers? We lost 0-4 at home to Norwich before most of the injuries happened. None of us know how good these new additions are yet. People do realise Warnock's parting shot that the squad was good enough to challenge for the play-offs was Warnock being Warnock right? Warnock played his part in this mess by giving Ward a 2 year deal and convincing people Ruffles is the best left back in the division. Luring people into thinking our obvious need for signings wasn't as desperate as it clearly was.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jan 21, 2024 12:30:00 GMT 1
Local, and with a good CV - Heckingbottom Has he ? Did ok with Barnsley, flopped at Leeds and Hibs, took Blunts up with a squad from the PL 🤷 Heckingbottom would be absolutely awful. Warnock completely schooled him, no thank you. |
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Post by willo on Jan 21, 2024 12:32:42 GMT 1
Whilst I'm on board with Moore needing to go, there's some guff on this thread. "Warnock would have had us comfortably top 10"...would he? With no fit strikers? We lost 0-4 at home to Norwich before most of the injuries happened. None of us know how good these new additions are yet. People do realise Warnock's parting shot that the squad was good enough to challenge for the play-offs was Warnock being Warnock right? Warnock played his part in this mess by giving Ward a 2 year deal and convincing people Ruffles is the best left back in the division. Luring people into thinking our obvious need for signings wasn't as desperate as it clearly was. Talk of NW having us comfotably top 10 is pie in the sky but he would likely have had us mid-table which most would have been more than ok with given our transfer spend last summer. Perfect really for the next guy to come in. Instead we pressed the self destruct button. |
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Post by willo on Jan 21, 2024 12:34:33 GMT 1
Has he ? Did ok with Barnsley, flopped at Leeds and Hibs, took Blunts up with a squad from the PL 🤷 Heckingbottom would be absolutely awful. Warnock completely schooled him, no thank you. Whoever comes in only(!) has to keep us in the Championship. Could we make a short term appointment til the end of the season, see where we are then and go from there? |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jan 21, 2024 12:43:44 GMT 1
Heckingbottom would be absolutely awful. Warnock completely schooled him, no thank you. Whoever comes in only(!) has to keep us in the Championship. Could we make a short term appointment til the end of the season, see where we are then and go from there? I’d comfortably take Nigel Pearson over Heckingbottom if that’s what we do. I’ve posted multiple times however the name should be a European who’s had a good grounding and learnt from the very best. Like Wagner with Klopp like Corberan with Bielsa. Not some coach who has learnt his way from the FAs mundane coaching badges. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jan 21, 2024 12:44:21 GMT 1
Whilst I'm on board with Moore needing to go, there's some guff on this thread. "Warnock would have had us comfortably top 10"...would he? With no fit strikers? We lost 0-4 at home to Norwich before most of the injuries happened. None of us know how good these new additions are yet. People do realise Warnock's parting shot that the squad was good enough to challenge for the play-offs was Warnock being Warnock right? Warnock played his part in this mess by giving Ward a 2 year deal and convincing people Ruffles is the best left back in the division. Luring people into thinking our obvious need for signings wasn't as desperate as it clearly was. Talk of NW having us comfotably top 10 is pie in the sky but he would likely have had us mid-table which most would have been more than ok with given our transfer spend last summer. Perfect really for the next guy to come in. Instead we pressed the self destruct button. My guess is that with NW in charge we’d be sat in that group on 32-33 points. Absolutely agree it’s very unlikely he’d have been top 10 |
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Post by dalesterrier on Jan 21, 2024 12:44:56 GMT 1
Hasenhuttl and Cooper will be waiting for much bigger jobs than us Ralf hasn't worked since Nov 2022, how big a job is he waiting for ? Retired from management |
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Post by dalesterrier on Jan 21, 2024 12:45:08 GMT 1
Hasenhuttl and Cooper will be waiting for much bigger jobs than us Ralf hasn't worked since Nov 2022, how big a job is he waiting for ? Retired from management |
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Post by pterrier on Jan 21, 2024 13:02:49 GMT 1
It’s more hilarious that some people don’t think we could employ someone better than a man with a win rate of 3 in 21. Up there with the worst in the country! We may well employ someone worse is my point. This idea that it’s dead easy to employ someone who is going to get us flying is bizarre. How many times since 1977 when I started going have we had a manager who I think did well?? May employ someone worse? Bloody hell, it can’t get much worse than 3 wins in 21. It’s the equivalent of rolling a 2 on a dice (even that’s a generous comparison to attribute to Moore) and not wanting to roll again for the fear of getting a 1; I actually think the possibility of getting a better manager is far better than getting someone worse than Moore due to the extremely low bar that he has set! |
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 21, 2024 15:06:21 GMT 1
We may well employ someone worse is my point. This idea that it’s dead easy to employ someone who is going to get us flying is bizarre. How many times since 1977 when I started going have we had a manager who I think did well?? May employ someone worse? Bloody hell, it can’t get much worse than 3 wins in 21. It’s the equivalent of rolling a 2 on a dice (even that’s a generous comparison to attribute to Moore) and not wanting to roll again for the fear of getting a 1; I actually think the possibility of getting a better manager is far better than getting someone worse than Moore due to the extremely low bar that he has set! You must have forgotten about Schofield and fotheringham |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 21, 2024 15:08:06 GMT 1
Ralf hasn't worked since Nov 2022, how big a job is he waiting for ? Retired from management Yep. “Five-and-a-half-years in the Premier League, that’s a lot of energy, regardless of job satisfaction. I can’t imagine that I want to do anything else in coaching after that. “And saying no to everything else is also a yes to yourself, and I want that. “I’ll be 57 years old. I’d like to experience other things and not sit on the bench like Roy Hodgson at 74. Definitely not.” |
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Jan 21, 2024 15:17:09 GMT 1
I believe the Special One is looking for a job...
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Post by rab030 on Jan 21, 2024 15:57:21 GMT 1
Come off it rab. It’s dead easy. Just sack DM and employ someone and we’ll fly up the league. 😂😂😂😂😂 It’s more hilarious that some people don’t think we could employ someone better than a man with a win rate of 3 in 21. Up there with the worst in the country! Assume you don’t count points per game as there are many with a worse record and quite a few with very similar. And your suggestion on the replacement is? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2024 16:00:53 GMT 1
Though it would never happen; I think we are in a position that requires Neil Warnock again, then we'd go for an option akin to the above in summer. In reality, NW won't save us again and to take a manager as above would be a risk at this stage without time to impose their style... Though I'd rather that than getting back on the managerial merry-go-round of usual suspects. |
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Post by sabailand on Jan 21, 2024 16:09:24 GMT 1
Talk of NW having us comfotably top 10 is pie in the sky but he would likely have had us mid-table which most would have been more than ok with given our transfer spend last summer. Perfect really for the next guy to come in. Instead we pressed the self destruct button. My guess is that with NW in charge we’d be sat in that group on 32-33 points. Absolutely agree it’s very unlikely he’d have been top 10 Exactly same as me on this, dont think we'd be mid table but deffo have 7-8 more points and thats assuming he had to cope with the same injury situation, a fully fit squad...who knows. |
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Post by workshyfop on Jan 21, 2024 20:40:57 GMT 1
Rowett for me. Even Alex Neill. Pearson at a push. Someone who knows the division. Not exciting, but might keep us up.
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Post by aideybabes on Jan 21, 2024 20:46:47 GMT 1
It wouldn’t at all surprise me if Jesse Marsch turned up. Please God, no. I’m not saying I want him, I’m just thinking of the American connection.. putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. Let’s face it, we’ve appointed worse.. Buzz lightyear for one and now this clown. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 21, 2024 20:50:04 GMT 1
Pearson would be great. I've said in the past that I'd like to see him here.
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Post by foxtrot666 on Jan 21, 2024 20:52:55 GMT 1
I believe the Special One is looking for a job... Your right I am, but I'm not willing to take a drop in wages. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Jan 21, 2024 20:56:00 GMT 1
Pearson would be great. I've said in the past that I'd like to see him here. Short term absolutely. Long term find a talented young coach from Europe who has the right ideology and can get the absolute maximum out of our players. Like Wagner and Corberan did. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 21, 2024 20:58:35 GMT 1
I’m not saying I want him, I’m just thinking of the American connection.. putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. Let’s face it, we’ve appointed worse.. Buzz lightyear for one and now this clown. Marsch would complete the unholy trinity |
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