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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Jan 26, 2024 17:51:11 GMT 1
Some of best days out I have had following town is in League 1. Would it be bad for the ub to go down? Of course it would. Would it spoil my days out watching Town? Absolutely not. Don't understand 'fans' only wanting to watch us in the top 2 divisions. It's bizarre. Not helped by the fact that it's been made a complete pain in the arse to buy away tickets, at least in recent years.
The whole priority thing is like a closed boys club and doesn't encourage Town fans no longer living in the area to go and watch Town when they're playing local to them. Meanwhile, the nutters still manage to get in and throw bags of vomit over everyone.
Never had a problem getting tickets in the 80s to watch us away, even packed games at places such as L**ds and Newcastle.
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Post by swam4mwg on Jan 26, 2024 19:28:34 GMT 1
I remember being stuck in the fourth division for five years in the 70's. Some really sparse crowds. It took Town a decade to get back to the Championship level. It can take years for fortunes to change.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 26, 2024 21:38:43 GMT 1
I remember being stuck in the fourth division for five years in the 70's. Some really sparse crowds. It took Town a decade to get back to the Championship level. It can take years for fortunes to change. Yes. It’s memories like those that make you never want to play in the low leagues again. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jan 26, 2024 22:00:20 GMT 1
I’m an old fart now (have been for some time and some would say for several decades) and my one piece of advice to young Town fans is to take each season as it comes, no matter which division Town are in and don’t worry about those in the future or the past. In my 54/55 seasons, and like many others on here no doubt, I’ve seen Town in all 4 divisions, twice, both at Leeds Road and the current stadium. “Violently inconsistent; you’ll never sing that!”. I can’t think of many clubs which provide such starkly different fortunes (Burnley, Wolves and Sheffield United spring to mind but they are amateurs in comparison and have kept the same stadium). Despite many rubbish teams and periods, it’s allowed me to see Town in 120+ grounds and I feel as equally at home at Leyton Orient, Gillingham or Carlisle as I do at Old Trafford, Goodison or White Hart Lane. 79/80 and 03/04 in the basement were emphatically better experiences than our last season in the top flight and much of the other 3 since 1969 too. There were horrible seasons like 87/88 and most of the 70s (which were forebodingly dark in a way that simply doesn’t compare to any poor period since) and stretches of mind numbingly boring seasons of finishing 10th in the third tier. Successful relegation battles are far superior to those seasons. I will be hugely disappointed if we are relegated, and I don’t see it as a good thing in any way at all (it is a dangerous myth to think that it is a “reset”, it is failure) but you get over it and support them in the next seasonal adventure. UTFT. Nothing tops 2003-04 for me. That team nor the manager are ever shown any respect for doing what they did. Didn't just get promoted, they rescued the club completely. Jacko and Taff dragged us kicking and screaming out of that division. If we hadn't have gone straight back up, I dread to think where we'd be now. Must admit, I've thought for a long time that was a curiously underappreciated achievement. |
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Post by htfcterry on Jan 26, 2024 22:20:49 GMT 1
We were ALL looking at the linesman when that went in. And couldn't believe he flagged, we were all convinced it was going to stand. My godfather started kicking fuck out of his seat, even after it had been disallowed, a copper had to tap him on the shoulder and inform him that the linesman had flagged 😂 Whenever I think about, or talk about that season, that team and that manager, I well up. It meant and still means so much to me. That was the season that got me completely hooked. I remember Macari and Wadsworth but my memories really kick in during the Machin era, so Jacko's time was the first time I ever saw us doing well. Even now if I see Jacko, I thank him for everything he did back then. Very much in the same boat as you, that’s the season that got me hooked. I’d been going to home games for 2 seasons before that, but the York away game was my first away game, and it didn’t disappoint. Weirdly, other than the play offs, one of the things that stick out to me is Darlington scoring the weirdest goal I’ve ever seen. Their player lofted it a mile up in the air and Phil Senior managed to let it under the bar. Steady was class, that Hull home game especially sticks out. The Carss volley against Torquay. Remember that season like it was last season and it’s bloody 20 year ago now. |
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Post by araucaria on Jan 27, 2024 1:18:15 GMT 1
We were ALL looking at the linesman when that went in. And couldn't believe he flagged, we were all convinced it was going to stand. My godfather started kicking fuck out of his seat, even after it had been disallowed, a copper had to tap him on the shoulder and inform him that the linesman had flagged 😂 Whenever I think about, or talk about that season, that team and that manager, I well up. It meant and still means so much to me. That was the season that got me completely hooked. I remember Macari and Wadsworth but my memories really kick in during the Machin era, so Jacko's time was the first time I ever saw us doing well. Even now if I see Jacko, I thank him for everything he did back then. It's probably just as well that you don't remember Jacko's first spell. It began with a great escape, included a short time at the top of the league, but ended with...W3 D11 L7, his last 21 league games. Would you care to contribute some retrospective vitriol about him? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jan 27, 2024 1:48:51 GMT 1
My godfather started kicking fuck out of his seat, even after it had been disallowed, a copper had to tap him on the shoulder and inform him that the linesman had flagged 😂 Whenever I think about, or talk about that season, that team and that manager, I well up. It meant and still means so much to me. That was the season that got me completely hooked. I remember Macari and Wadsworth but my memories really kick in during the Machin era, so Jacko's time was the first time I ever saw us doing well. Even now if I see Jacko, I thank him for everything he did back then. It's probably just as well that you don't remember Jacko's first spell. It began with a great escape, included a short time at the top of the league, but ended with...W3 D11 L7, his last 21 league games. Would you care to contribute some retrospective vitriol about him? What are you on about? |
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Post by King Neil on Jan 27, 2024 13:33:16 GMT 1
Every manager has a bad spell and gets the boot eventually regardless of their previous record...a fact of life and they get paid up in full anyway
The key is to start well..not a la dm and stink the place out
The great mick Buxton had a bad spell and got sacked just before Xmas despite his previous record of 2 promotions....but came back a season or 2 later to perform a great escape and then dumped us for Sunderland
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Post by swam4mwg on Jan 27, 2024 22:19:12 GMT 1
Fair point. Obviously we all want to playing as high as we can. But the matchdays away for me have been better in the bottom 2 divisions. Home, attendances lower, but atmosphere not that bad apart from the Wadsworth era. I’m an old fart now (have been for some time and some would say for several decades) and my one piece of advice to young Town fans is to take each season as it comes, no matter which division Town are in and don’t worry about those in the future or the past. In my 54/55 seasons, and like many others on here no doubt, I’ve seen Town in all 4 divisions, twice, both at Leeds Road and the current stadium. “Violently inconsistent; you’ll never sing that!”. I can’t think of many clubs which provide such starkly different fortunes (Burnley, Wolves and Sheffield United spring to mind but they are amateurs in comparison and have kept the same stadium). Despite many rubbish teams and periods, it’s allowed me to see Town in 120+ grounds and I feel as equally at home at Leyton Orient, Gillingham or Carlisle as I do at Old Trafford, Goodison or White Hart Lane. 79/80 and 03/04 in the basement were emphatically better experiences than our last season in the top flight and much of the other 3 since 1969 too. There were horrible seasons like 87/88 and most of the 70s (which were forebodingly dark in a way that simply doesn’t compare to any poor period since) and stretches of mind numbingly boring seasons of finishing 10th in the third tier. Successful relegation battles are far superior to those seasons. I will be hugely disappointed if we are relegated, and I don’t see it as a good thing in any way at all (it is a dangerous myth to think that it is a “reset”, it is failure) but you get over it and support them in the next seasonal adventure. UTFT. I was lucky (or unlucky?) that when I first started watching Town in 1976, they were in the basement division. Things could only get better which it did, eventually. I suppose diehard fans turn up every week, so it is in some ways irrelevant what league they are in. EPL or NPL 😀 |
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Post by terriers2000 on Jan 27, 2024 22:28:37 GMT 1
If we keep Moore we’ll go down, if we sack him and bring someone better than him we won’t go down but if we do go down it will be 2x harder than what we experienced before, fans might say better awaydays and might win games etc but I rather be fighting for the play off’s/top 10 every season in the championship, League one will kill us
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Post by duncfost01 on Jan 27, 2024 22:30:59 GMT 1
Many of us experienced life in league 1 and league 2…. Or even division 4….
Relegation would be a disaster.
However, we have flirted so much with it in the last few seasons it maybe our turn.
Lose tomorrow and we are right in it …. Again.
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Jan 27, 2024 23:09:19 GMT 1
If you consistently hang around the trap door, at some point you will fall through it.
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Post by irverino on Jan 28, 2024 0:03:12 GMT 1
If you consistently hang around the trap door, at some point you will fall through it. Lets hope its DM......Along with 3 other teams. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jan 28, 2024 1:11:12 GMT 1
If you consistently hang around the trap door, at some point you will fall through it. A Bradford City supporting colleague unironically named us the turd that the Championship can’t flush. I sometimes feel sympathy for the view. |
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Post by utttrooper on Jan 28, 2024 1:24:37 GMT 1
If you consistently hang around the trap door, at some point you will fall through it. A Bradford City supporting colleague unironically named us the turd that the Championship can’t flush. I sometimes feel sympathy for the view. A bit ironic for a team 18th in League 2 |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jan 28, 2024 5:56:15 GMT 1
A Bradford City supporting colleague unironically named us the turd that the Championship can’t flush. I sometimes feel sympathy for the view. A bit ironic for a team 18th in League 2 Yes, he got it back! |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jan 28, 2024 9:36:20 GMT 1
A bit ironic for a team 18th in League 2 Yes, he got it back! 530am in the morning and you’re posting? See you in Shepherds Bush, Martin! |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jan 28, 2024 9:58:19 GMT 1
530am in the morning and you’re posting? See you in Shepherds Bush, Martin! In Vietnam, Chris - 7 hours ahead (I don’t get up that early!) |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jan 28, 2024 12:05:22 GMT 1
530am in the morning and you’re posting? See you in Shepherds Bush, Martin! In Vietnam, Chris - 7 hours ahead (I don’t get up that early!) Holiday? Our son enjoyed it there. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jan 28, 2024 13:12:03 GMT 1
In Vietnam, Chris - 7 hours ahead (I don’t get up that early!) Holiday? Our son enjoyed it there. Yeah - 3 week far east tour. Never been this far east - mixed feelings really - people are absolutely smashing, it’s very cheap (not Hong Kong though) and some interesting stuff. It’s just that I prefer skiing in Telluride! |
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