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Post by Uddersfeeled on Jan 29, 2024 0:50:22 GMT 1
and rugby is a hooligans' game supported by gentlemen !!
To paraphrase the old saying, please discuss.
For what it's worth, I for one I'm seriously starting to consider whether football is the type of sporting entertainment I should be introducing my 7 year old boy to.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 29, 2024 1:02:52 GMT 1
Rugby is a game played by gentlemen with odd shaped balls…
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Jan 29, 2024 7:32:45 GMT 1
Rugby is mainly a game for those not good enough to play football.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 29, 2024 7:59:36 GMT 1
What the hell is this thread all about?
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Post by Ladaphosen on Jan 29, 2024 9:43:37 GMT 1
and rugby is a hooligans' game supported by gentlemen !! To paraphrase the old saying, please discuss. For what it's worth, I for one I'm seriously starting to consider whether football is the type of sporting entertainment I should be introducing my 7 year old boy to. Load of s***e coined by posh muppets who hate anything working class. |
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Post by midlander on Jan 29, 2024 9:44:24 GMT 1
and rugby is a hooligans' game supported by gentlemen !! To paraphrase the old saying, please discuss. For what it's worth, I for one I'm seriously starting to consider whether football is the type of sporting entertainment I should be introducing my 7 year old boy to. Of course you should mate. In 45 years of watching Town, I have only once been remotely threatened or felt unsafe and that was probably due to the fact that I walked from Wolverhampton train station to Molineux on my own, wearing a Town shirt. There are lots of coked up muppets who go to football but I find them largely easy to swerve. Introduced my lad to Town as a 5 year old away at Derby after Covid restrictions. He loves it,despite us being largely awful. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jan 29, 2024 10:01:02 GMT 1
and rugby is a hooligans' game supported by gentlemen !! To paraphrase the old saying, please discuss. For what it's worth, I for one I'm seriously starting to consider whether football is the type of sporting entertainment I should be introducing my 7 year old boy to. A word of advice. Our eldest grandson is 6 and is football mad. However, at that age they don’t have the attention span to sit and watch the game. Ten minutes into the game your son will want some chips and a drink, then he’ll want the toilet. You won’t be able to watch the game properly either. Better to take him to local non-league at that age, where he’ll probably make friends with other children the same age. Town can wait a couple of years. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jan 29, 2024 11:25:40 GMT 1
Rugby is shit, and always has been.
Football is good, but it's gradually becoming more shit.
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Post by midlander on Jan 29, 2024 12:08:00 GMT 1
and rugby is a hooligans' game supported by gentlemen !! To paraphrase the old saying, please discuss. For what it's worth, I for one I'm seriously starting to consider whether football is the type of sporting entertainment I should be introducing my 7 year old boy to. A word of advice. Our eldest grandson is 6 and is football mad. However, at that age they don’t have the attention span to sit and watch the game. Ten minutes into the game your son will want some chips and a drink, then he’ll want the toilet. You won’t be able to watch the game properly either. Better to take him to local non-league at that age, where he’ll probably make friends with other children the same age. Town can wait a couple of years. I thought that with my lad Chris, however he has never really struggled with the attention at matches even at age 5. He does occasionally ask to leave early in second half if we are rubbish and getting stuffed, but I always refuse and explain you can't enjoy the highs if you don't experience the pain!! |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 29, 2024 12:31:09 GMT 1
Football isn’t back in the dark ages, very rare you see or hear of trouble and it’s very easy to stay away from it even if you do. We could be heading for national service in years to come the way the world is in conflict, the very least your kids need to worry about is the very very rare occasion something happens at a football ground and they may after move out of the way . I travel all over the country watching football using trains and mixing with opposing fans often.
I do think people see coverage of things on tv and immediately go into over thinking panic mode though. Something maybe I need to accept the world is full of overly sensitive people now who want a bubble round them and hate the thought of it popping.
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Post by Orinoco on Jan 30, 2024 4:23:43 GMT 1
Rugby is a mans game, football used to be a man's game but watching these overpaid prima Donnas these days curling up in a ball writhing in agony when an opponent farts near suggests differently.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 30, 2024 12:00:36 GMT 1
Rugby is a mans game, football used to be a man's game but watching these overpaid prima Donnas these days curling up in a ball writhing in agony when an opponent farts near suggests differently. Yes football isn’t even close to the physicalities of rugby, but so what football is far more entertaining, that’s why rugby league is dying on its arse because millions want to watch football not rugby. Why are we comparing the 2 because it kicked off at wba v wolves , how very weird , no comparison needed. Rugby is more physical but no where near as attractive a sport to watch. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jan 30, 2024 12:34:44 GMT 1
It's been interesting and quite surprising watching the Asian and African Cups, and seeing completely unsegregated seating. Fans in high stakes knockout games, sometimes between countries with geopolitical rivalries, just sat next to each other with no trouble whatsoever. As it should be.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 30, 2024 13:49:53 GMT 1
It's been interesting and quite surprising watching the Asian and African Cups, and seeing completely unsegregated seating. Fans in high stakes knockout games, sometimes between countries with geopolitical rivalries, just sat next to each other with no trouble whatsoever. As it should be. Look into the history of African football vilolence , think you may change your views, we haven’t got a problem over here and when it does kick off it’s minor, the wba game is prime example very little actually happened, a couple of wolves fans in wrong end and a few idiots having a ruck with the police, compared to what goes on in African or South American games . |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jan 30, 2024 14:15:17 GMT 1
It's been interesting and quite surprising watching the Asian and African Cups, and seeing completely unsegregated seating. Fans in high stakes knockout games, sometimes between countries with geopolitical rivalries, just sat next to each other with no trouble whatsoever. As it should be. Look into the history of African football vilolence , think you may change your views, we haven’t got a problem over here and when it does kick off it’s minor, the wba game is prime example very little actually happened, a couple of wolves fans in wrong end and a few idiots having a ruck with the police, compared to what goes on in African or South American games . I'm well aware of the history, which is why I said it was surprising- in any case it's something we're not doing in Europe yet. It's tailed off a fair bit in Africa in the last decade. |
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Post by bluebeard on Jan 30, 2024 15:40:51 GMT 1
Football isn’t back in the dark ages, very rare you see or hear of trouble and it’s very easy to stay away from it even if you do. We could be heading for national service in years to come the way the world is in conflict, the very least your kids need to worry about is the very very rare occasion something happens at a football ground and they may after move out of the way . I travel all over the country watching football using trains and mixing with opposing fans often. I do think people see coverage of things on tv and immediately go into over thinking panic mode though. Something maybe I need to accept the world is full of overly sensitive people now who want a bubble round them and hate the thought of it popping. Football is not back in the dark ages, but lets not kid ourselves some problems are still there. Very rare you get any problems in the ground, Stoke at home was an exception, but outside it all depends on which way you go home. I use to park at the Canalside and only saw any trouble once in about 8 years now i have to walk through the coach park after the game and i have seen trouble on about 6/7 occasions in the last two seasons and against Ipswich earlier in the season walked straight in to two sets of fans knocking hell out of each other. Football is far safer now than ever, but the growing problem of the Coke heads at the games might spoil it for every one. |
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Post by softboy on Jan 30, 2024 15:48:58 GMT 1
Football is a tribal game and gets out of hand from time to time particularly local rivalries. I attend a significant number of Town games, home and away. I am more than happy to have a beer with opposition fans before,after the game even in a bar on holiday if there is a game on. But all sat together, no chance. I cannot think of anything worse that have opposition fans sat around me engaging in useless banter.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jan 30, 2024 16:56:04 GMT 1
Holiganism will never completely disappear, we as humans will never exist without conflict, but the English side of it as probably never been better , a very minute amount of idiots of which many of those wouldn’t be the slightest interested if confronted with someone willing to fight. We as a country have more or less nullified terrace trouble with very harsh penalties. Some on here may wish to dramatise modern football hooligans , but it’s so far down the list of problematic issues in this country it’s hardly worth a thread.
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Post by rab030 on Jan 30, 2024 19:45:28 GMT 1
I struggled trying to explain to my son that cheating in sport is not the done thing unless you play football and then it’s part of the game. Love football and go home and away but think we could learn a lot from rugby. Conduct of players, managers and supporters is miles better. Like most things in life it’s the minority that spoil it for the majority. That said have never felt threatened at a game. I have spent several hours shaking my head at some of the knob heads all teams appear to attract and unfortunately we all just accept this is also part of the game.
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Post by Uddersfeeled on Jan 30, 2024 21:52:01 GMT 1
I struggled trying to explain to my son that cheating in sport is not the done thing unless you play football and then it’s part of the game. Love football and go home and away but think we could learn a lot from rugby. Conduct of players, managers and supporters is miles better. Like most things in life it’s the minority that spoil it for the majority. That said have never felt threatened at a game. I have spent several hours shaking my head at some of the knob heads all teams appear to attract and unfortunately we all just accept this is also part of the game. My thoughts exactly. Don't get me wrong my lad (a season ticket holder for 2 seasons) loves a matchday (home and away) and fully engages with the whole 90 mins (no ipad required) but I do think rugby fans and players conduct themselves in a manner that promotes them as far better role models than their over paid, soft, cheating cousins. Why can rugby fans watch a game without segregation and with a beer in hand and there be no trouble ?? Never understood the tribalism (i.e. violence, anti-social behaviour, taunts to opposing fans) in football that makes 'grown' men act like a bunch of knuckle draggers. We've all been young and thought we were 'billy big bollocks' so maybe a bit of slack can be cut to 'some' of the youth but, having said that, I didn't understand it on the 14 May 1992 when I was in that category and even less so now as a father. If you're looking for it, fair enough look for it, but do your version of the 'hokey cokey' off site away from those who are simply looking to enjoy a good game of football with their friends and families. |
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Post by softboy on Jan 30, 2024 22:51:13 GMT 1
You clearly don’t understand the definition of tribalism!
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Post by rab030 on Jan 30, 2024 23:47:45 GMT 1
I would respectfully suggest you look the word and its meaning up in the dictionary. I certainly don’t want to be part of any tribe that behaves the way some football supporters do. We might have supporting our football team in common but if that’s at the expense of common decency to other human beings, then it’s a no thank you from me. Anyway this is in danger of getting far too deep and I don’t want to offend anybody. I just think we could improve our game by irradiating some of the nonsense we all witness every week.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 31, 2024 13:26:55 GMT 1
I struggled trying to explain to my son that cheating in sport is not the done thing unless you play football and then it’s part of the game. Love football and go home and away but think we could learn a lot from rugby. Conduct of players, managers and supporters is miles better. Like most things in life it’s the minority that spoil it for the majority. That said have never felt threatened at a game. I have spent several hours shaking my head at some of the knob heads all teams appear to attract and unfortunately we all just accept this is also part of the game. My thoughts exactly. Don't get me wrong my lad (a season ticket holder for 2 seasons) loves a matchday (home and away) and fully engages with the whole 90 mins (no ipad required) but I do think rugby fans and players conduct themselves in a manner that promotes them as far better role models than their over paid, soft, cheating cousins. Why can rugby fans watch a game without segregation and with a beer in hand and there be no trouble ?? Never understood the tribalism (i.e. violence, anti-social behaviour, taunts to opposing fans) in football that makes 'grown' men act like a bunch of knuckle draggers. We've all been young and thought we were 'billy big bollocks' so maybe a bit of slack can be cut to 'some' of the youth but, having said that, I didn't understand it on the 14 May 1992 when I was in that category and even less so now as a father. If you're looking for it, fair enough look for it, but do your version of the 'hokey cokey' off site away from those who are simply looking to enjoy a good game of football with their friends and families. Union fans seen to be able to sit together. I don't think many league fans would want to be unsegregated when they played Hull. Remember them going mental when Leeds beat them at the Mac 🫣 |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 31, 2024 16:07:29 GMT 1
and rugby is a hooligans' game supported by gentlemen !! To paraphrase the old saying, please discuss. For what it's worth, I for one I'm seriously starting to consider whether football is the type of sporting entertainment I should be introducing my 7 year old boy to. A word of advice. Our eldest grandson is 6 and is football mad. However, at that age they don’t have the attention span to sit and watch the game. Ten minutes into the game your son will want some chips and a drink, then he’ll want the toilet. You won’t be able to watch the game properly either. Better to take him to local non-league at that age, where he’ll probably make friends with other children the same age. Town can wait a couple of years. I'll never forget once nipping down to the toilets beneath the Riverside Lower for a wee during a lull in play, only to find two young lads playing football in the empty concourse! I couldn't believe my eyes. I was also astonished at the thought that some parent saw fit to let the kids out of his/her sight for any length of time at a game. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 31, 2024 17:05:23 GMT 1
I struggled trying to explain to my son that cheating in sport is not the done thing unless you play football and then it’s part of the game. Love football and go home and away but think we could learn a lot from rugby. Conduct of players, managers and supporters is miles better. Like most things in life it’s the minority that spoil it for the majority. That said have never felt threatened at a game. I have spent several hours shaking my head at some of the knob heads all teams appear to attract and unfortunately we all just accept this is also part of the game. Yeah footballs pretty unique in that cheating is just accepted and rarely gets punished. Be it diving, feigning injury, time wasting or nicking 10 yards at every throw ( or taking a throw with your foot on the pitch--when did linos stop flagging for that?) Imagine lots of things go on in rugby too mind. But footballs still the best sport there is..by a long way. The experience of going to a game is massively different now to the hooligan days of the 70s and 80s. In every way really. Cant remember the last time I saw any bother of any note at a game, home or away. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Jan 31, 2024 20:14:04 GMT 1
I have come across plenty of ruffians watching Town over the years and it was evident only recently at the Etihad. I even remember at Town in the late 70'searly 80's we had female hooligans who would get involved in punch ups
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 1, 2024 11:19:59 GMT 1
A word of advice. Our eldest grandson is 6 and is football mad. However, at that age they don’t have the attention span to sit and watch the game. Ten minutes into the game your son will want some chips and a drink, then he’ll want the toilet. You won’t be able to watch the game properly either. Better to take him to local non-league at that age, where he’ll probably make friends with other children the same age. Town can wait a couple of years. I thought that with my lad Chris, however he has never really struggled with the attention at matches even at age 5. He does occasionally ask to leave early in second half if we are rubbish and getting stuffed, but I always refuse and explain you can't enjoy the highs if you don't experience the pain!! Is this you? 😉 |
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Post by westislandterrier on Feb 2, 2024 3:38:45 GMT 1
You clearly don’t understand the definition of tribalism! There’s no away fans in the league matches nowadays - (the club’s decision and not police enforcement) - But a good Glasgow Derby cup final of 🥊 Celtic v Rangers 🥊 with the crowd split 50:50 is a very good barometer of tribalism up here in our biggest city... And plenty outlying towns as well ! 😬 |
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