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Post by dezzly on Feb 7, 2024 10:34:46 GMT 1
What is the absolute best we can hope for from Duff? I don't hate the appointment as think he has similar values to Dyche and that should fit well with us, but at the same time I see absolutely no chance we're in the Premier League in 3 years with him. Maybe 2/3 mid table finishes a bit of stability, it wouldn't harm. Not sure Nagle will be happy with that mind. Either way il be stunned if MC is still at this club in 12 months time as it really just shows how limited he is again. I think the first paragraph is where I’m at with it. Don’t see us going down this year,it’s not very exciting but could see stability in seasons to come. Like you say though not sure how the football will sit with Kev.That said if your winning more games the style probably doesn’t have the same impact.Plus from what I gather Kev is the one driving the appointment so it can’t really be laid at the door of MC so much. Would prefer something more exciting but if for whatever reason those deals don’t make sense then maybe we go with duff. One big thing is if it doesn’t start well because it won’t be 100% backed by fans it again could turn quickly.
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 7, 2024 10:35:27 GMT 1
Hearing from a usually reliable source that Bianco was spotted having a meal at Da Sandro's last night, complaining about the food's lack of authenticity, and gesticulating wildly.
Lemon pavlova cheesecake and ice cream went flying, with a scoop of each flavour of Neapolitan ice cream landing perfectly on the bald heads of Edwards, Cartwright, and Bianco himself. As the strawberry one landed on Bianco's head, he took the job on the spot (it's considered a sign of good luck in Apulia). Announcement at 3pm today.
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Post by Tiro on Feb 7, 2024 10:37:40 GMT 1
You don't even know if this is true, yet. Do you know either points are correct? I think its fair to assume its Duff at this point, if there was another candidate interviewing seriously we would know by now. Particularly as I expect the club will want to announce the new manager before the weekend so he can start Monday first thing. Again I prefer Duff to Hecky, listened to a few of his interviews, one in lockdown. Has a close relationship with Dyche and his mannerisms are very similar. It just feels very very limited we go and get the guy who we couldn't get in the summer. So you're happy with Duff and therefore Cartwright afterall? I'm OK with the signings he has made so far (apart from Edwards). No complaints, other than the bad luck around injuries. FYI, it really is quite common for teams to have a) a vested interest in agents/agencies and b) use the same agent for most if not all transfers. Doesn't make them crooks (though I respect people's opinion's of agents and the fees themselves). If it works, it's good business. Closer to home and as a an example, Warnock's refusal to work with some agents, rightly or wrongly, cost us.
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Post by RickDangerous on Feb 7, 2024 10:37:41 GMT 1
You don't even know if this is true, yet. Do you know either points are correct? I think its fair to assume its Duff at this point, if there was another candidate interviewing seriously we would know by now. Particularly as I expect the club will want to announce the new manager before the weekend so he can start Monday first thing. Again I prefer Duff to Hecky, listened to a few of his interviews, one in lockdown. Has a close relationship with Dyche and his mannerisms are very similar. It just feels very very limited we go and get the guy who we couldn't get in the summer. Rhys Healey
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Post by eric on Feb 7, 2024 10:39:04 GMT 1
If it ultimately is Duff then you really do have to wonder what the point of the whole process and fortnight delay was. He could be a successful manager here - his record is OK - but there's no getting around the fact that he's the easiest, most convenient option. That's even before any mention of who he's represented by... The wait actually gives me hope that it's someone outside the box, but it would be very Town to wait two weeks, interview 12 people, and then employ Michael Duff. I'm only guessing but maybe Nagle wants to have a more extensive recruitment process this time, in contrast to when Moore was appointed. In all likelihood Duff gets the job but Nagle can say to himself and the fans that everything was done to appoint the best candidate.
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Post by Tiro on Feb 7, 2024 10:39:13 GMT 1
If it ultimately is Duff t hen you really do have to wonder what the point of the whole process and fortnight delay was. He could be a successful manager here - his record is OK - but there's no getting around the fact that he's the easiest, most convenient option. That's even before any mention of who he's represented by... The wait actually gives me hope that it's someone outside the box, but it would be very Town to wait two weeks, interview 12 people, and then employ Michael Duff. Not sure you do, do you? Hopefully it was so they did their due diligence and looked at many options before making a snap decision again. Is that not what you want? Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.
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Post by DuffMan on Feb 7, 2024 10:40:25 GMT 1
If it was Duff it would leak very quickly and the odds would drop. he is still 4/5 on most bookies, clearly no decision made yet...
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Post by upthetown on Feb 7, 2024 10:41:58 GMT 1
Aye knows absolutely zilch that account. Castlehill’s Twitter handle?
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Post by Jimuano on Feb 7, 2024 10:42:18 GMT 1
Duff, apparently, is represented by Beswick Sports of Stoke 🫣 ooooh agency friend.
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Post by Sio on Feb 7, 2024 10:43:13 GMT 1
If it ultimately is Duff t hen you really do have to wonder what the point of the whole process and fortnight delay was. He could be a successful manager here - his record is OK - but there's no getting around the fact that he's the easiest, most convenient option. That's even before any mention of who he's represented by... The wait actually gives me hope that it's someone outside the box, but it would be very Town to wait two weeks, interview 12 people, and then employ Michael Duff. Not sure you do, do you? Hopefully it was so they did their due diligence and looked at many options before making a snap decision again. Is that not what you want? Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. I suppose if he is genuinely the best option of the 12 candidates then absolutely, that's fair enough. It just feels a little convenient.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Feb 7, 2024 10:45:15 GMT 1
You don't even know if this is true, yet. Do you know either points are correct? Duff is definitely with beswick The reason why I said yesterday if we go to hire Duff, then we should sack Cartwright. Putting his own relationships ahead of the club’s best interests is not on. If Duff is the best we can get, then we really aren’t looking hard enough.
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Post by bblueterrier on Feb 7, 2024 10:46:36 GMT 1
No decision made as of yet.
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Post by harris on Feb 7, 2024 10:46:52 GMT 1
Just don’t see how Duff would work if he’s adamant on commuting from Cheltenham… which basically means he’d be part time. Would be farcical and I don’t see us going down that route.
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Post by harris on Feb 7, 2024 10:47:47 GMT 1
No decision made as of yet. Heard any names? And if so, exciting or meh?
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Post by bells ringing :) on Feb 7, 2024 10:48:17 GMT 1
No decision made as of yet. Thanks for the update mate, do you know how many applicants are left?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2024 10:48:58 GMT 1
It’s all but confirmed that it’s Duff. This either gonna end amazingly or terribly bad. by who ? absolutely everyone on twitter seems to think it is, plus he has links to cartwright… Another job for his mate. Hope not though. Cooper said to be going to Palace as well
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 7, 2024 10:53:11 GMT 1
Just don’t see how Duff would work if he’s adamant on commuting from Cheltenham… which basically means he’d be part time. Would be farcical and I don’t see us going down that route. This. I'm not against Duff other than this apparent aspect. It's ok short term or for a firefighter like Warnock but for a hopefully long term appointment to live 165 miles away? No thanks. Would Wagner have had the same impact had he lived in Cheltenham rather than Fixby? I severely doubt it.
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Post by paulmat on Feb 7, 2024 10:54:07 GMT 1
If it ultimately is Duff then you really do have to wonder what the point of the whole process and fortnight delay was. He could be a successful manager here - his record is OK - but there's no getting around the fact that he's the easiest, most convenient option. That's even before any mention of who he's represented by... The wait actually gives me hope that it's someone outside the box, but it would be very Town to wait two weeks, interview 12 people, and then employ Michael Duff. Surely it's better to wait two weeks interview 12 people and appoint Duff if he is the best candidate of those interviewed, rather than just appoint Duff without seeing what other options are available. Regardless of who is appointed at least there seems to have been a thorough process this time. There was little sign of that when Moore was appointed. I also find it very hard to believe they will collectively appoint based on what agency he is with. Sure, that might have got him a foot in the door, but given the stakes, nobody, Cartwright, Nagle, Edwards, is benefiting from appointing anything other than the person they feel is the best avaialble candiate.
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Post by dezzly on Feb 7, 2024 10:57:16 GMT 1
Just don’t see how Duff would work if he’s adamant on commuting from Cheltenham… which basically means he’d be part time. Would be farcical and I don’t see us going down that route. This. I'm not against Duff other than this apparent aspect. It's ok short term or for a firefighter like Warnock but for a hopefully long term appointment to live 165 miles away? No thanks. Would Wagner have had the same impact had he lived in Cheltenham rather than Fixby? I severely doubt it. I did forget to mention this aspect in my last post.I just don’t see how you could hire someone knowing that was the case. It’s not a guarantee he would do that here but has at Swansea and Barnsley I believe? I’m also not against duff particularly but there are also aspects I don’t like and those aspects are the only ones you will hear about should it not start well. Again all this with caveat that it might not even be him.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Feb 7, 2024 11:01:56 GMT 1
Is it just me or am I seeing a large dollop of Townrwe in CastleHillTerriers insight and input? One is at the beginning of a three month holiday….stranger things have happened. Monitoring this closely. The 🔫 hasn’t been used in a week or so…. Think Snowy is actually Townre. Didn’t he joined a couple of days after his ban? Thought admins could check the IP’s of posters. they can, but posters can also use VPNs
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Feb 7, 2024 11:05:35 GMT 1
This all reminds me of a Saturday night at my house when i ask the wife what take away she would like. Any! Not bothered. Is always the answer, any would be better than cooking. I then proceed to name every take away under the sun and she says no to all of them. think your Mrs is a bigamist mate...
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 7, 2024 11:07:53 GMT 1
Duff wouldn't be a particularly exciting appointment but if our board have chosen him from a decent list of candidates then as ever all we fans can do is hope theyve got it right. Theyre certainly not going to make any decision around who their agent is! ( think weve had enough of that recently!)
Its a stab in the dark..a gamble,,whoever you appoint. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesnt, regardless of track records and endorsements...we're due one that will.
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 7, 2024 11:09:55 GMT 1
This all reminds me of a Saturday night at my house when i ask the wife what take away she would like. Any! Not bothered. Is always the answer, any would be better than cooking. I then proceed to name every take away under the sun and she says no to all of them. sums up pretty much every new manager thread theres been on DATM, and theres been a hell of a lot over recent years!
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Post by harris on Feb 7, 2024 11:18:12 GMT 1
Just don’t see how Duff would work if he’s adamant on commuting from Cheltenham… which basically means he’d be part time. Would be farcical and I don’t see us going down that route. This. I'm not against Duff other than this apparent aspect. It's ok short term or for a firefighter like Warnock but for a hopefully long term appointment to live 165 miles away? No thanks. Would Wagner have had the same impact had he lived in Cheltenham rather than Fixby? I severely doubt it. Can see it now… Slow start. Then ITK poster hints that Duff is late to training most days and/or only in a couple days a week. Fans turn quicker than they did with Moore and we’re back at square one within 5 games. We need a manager to be on it and hands on from the start to keep us up this season. Not saying he should prioritise his job over his family, but living somewhere near Huddersfield is surely a must.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Feb 7, 2024 11:21:52 GMT 1
The recruitment process should be done thoroughly even if there is a prime candidate in mind. You want to have a fleet of potentials so you’re not backed into a corner when negotiating the position.
And as a bonus, for the long term of the club it doesn’t do any harm to meet with candidates who despite not getting the job, may be considered further down the line if circumstances change, or with a bit more experience.
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 7, 2024 11:22:57 GMT 1
This. I'm not against Duff other than this apparent aspect. It's ok short term or for a firefighter like Warnock but for a hopefully long term appointment to live 165 miles away? No thanks. Would Wagner have had the same impact had he lived in Cheltenham rather than Fixby? I severely doubt it. Can see it now… Slow start. Then ITK poster hints that Duff is late to training most days and/or only in a couple days a week. Fans turn quicker than they did with Moore and we’re back at square one within 5 games. We need a manager to be on it and hands on from the start to keep us up this season. Not saying he should prioritise his job over his family, but living somewhere near Huddersfield is surely a must. Wagner went down the route of everyone having to live within 20 miles. I wouldn't go that far as it was probably quite limiting and just lead to everyone living in Leeds but it's a hell of a trek to Cheltenham. Even if you stay up here most of the week you've then got the is he missing family aspect etc.
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Post by royrace on Feb 7, 2024 11:24:16 GMT 1
Duff. A recent spectacular failure in this league and no other championship experience whatsoever. Wouldn't be my choice. I prefer track record over words especially when we're in a relegation battle.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Feb 7, 2024 11:26:25 GMT 1
Duff. A recent spectacular failure in this league and no other championship experience whatsoever. Wouldn't be my choice. I prefer track record over words especially when we're in a relegation battle. Not my choice either but spectacular failure is a bit OTT. He had a win percentage of just under 30%. It didn't work admittedly but it wasn't Rooney, Munoz or Moore levels of failure.
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Post by stinkypete on Feb 7, 2024 11:29:19 GMT 1
Why is everyone going on about Duff?? Have I missed his press conference?
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Post by desertstorm on Feb 7, 2024 11:29:39 GMT 1
We’re not up the duff as we speak, relax
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