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Post by dewsburyborn on May 10, 2024 10:26:22 GMT 1
Seems to me the longer this goes on, and the more desperate KN is to persuade him to stay we're going to end up with AB strolling back like some God like figure..strutting around the stadium in full superior German fashion.. His 'demands' will be agreed and fought over with every one on the proviso of 'give me want I want or I walk'...he'll have KN's nuts in his hand... I don't think that will be a good thing to give to an employee. He'll basically end up running the club. It won't end well for us. ef Seems to me a guy like KN who's had the business success and amassed the fortune he has wouldn't take too kindly to someone thinking the have his nuts in their hand
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Post by goodbet on May 10, 2024 10:26:38 GMT 1
People talking about the reason for our relegation as though it was all down to one solitary fuck-up.... True. The FIRST disaster would be more accurate. Warnock may not be without blame but this attempt by some to lay relegation at his doorstep smells of desperation by AB and Cartwright and Co to save as much face as possible.
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Post by King Neil on May 10, 2024 10:27:00 GMT 1
If he stays we will all have to wear sunglasses to games
Because apparently the sun shines out of his arse
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 10, 2024 10:28:23 GMT 1
If he was staying it would be announced - especially now they are trying to sell season tickets
The only reason it's not been announced is either he's not decided (most likely) or said no and the club want to get a replacement ready to announce
Likely KN gave him a deadline and that will be looming. AB may well be waiting for that deadline in the hope a better option comes along
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Post by hoggy1975 on May 10, 2024 10:28:51 GMT 1
True. The FIRST disaster would be more accurate. Warnock may not be without blame but this attempt by some to lay relegation at his doorstep smells of desperation by AB and Cartwright and Co to save as much face as possible. Did you not know it was Warnocks fault the players couldn’t string five passes together?
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Post by marshterrier on May 10, 2024 10:32:33 GMT 1
If he was staying it would be announced - especially now they are trying to sell season tickets The only reason it's not been announced is either he's not decided (most likely) or said no and the club want to get a replacement ready to announce Likely KN gave him a deadline and that will be looming. AB may well be waiting for that deadline in the hope a better option comes along Today is the deadline according to Yorkshire Post.
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Post by leroy212 on May 10, 2024 10:35:18 GMT 1
If he's staying does he need to be in building ATM, no doubt Cartwright will be dealing with transfers (god help us) and players on holiday.
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Post by goodbet on May 10, 2024 10:37:34 GMT 1
Warnock may not be without blame but this attempt by some to lay relegation at his doorstep smells of desperation by AB and Cartwright and Co to save as much face as possible. Did you not know it was Warnocks fault the players couldn’t string five passes together? I can see your incredulity in your comment, but for the unaware. They could manage well enough the season before when he turned up to turn that season around. For the season just gone he did a better job of it than Cartwright's picks (DM & AB) did when they turned up. But apparently because the decision was taken to keep Cartwright for a bit longer some wish to try and whitewash his image.
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Post by bells ringing :) on May 10, 2024 10:38:23 GMT 1
he decides when he wants, he decides when he wantssss , andre b decdies when he wants..... Nagle never ever be made to wait for no one. Kev your the boss no one else, they should all respect you and if you say ring me or we will be having a chat on such a date. Then out of respect for the boss of the club, you should have had that chat, if you didn't have that chat due to Andre not answering , then it should be BYE BYE Andre , we move on.
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Post by Fish & Chips on May 10, 2024 10:44:04 GMT 1
If he stays we will all have to wear sunglasses to games Because apparently the sun shines out of his arse That’s OK, because you can just reuse the ones you wore when Warnock was in charge.
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Post by detox on May 10, 2024 10:44:08 GMT 1
Seems to me the longer this goes on, and the more desperate KN is to persuade him to stay we're going to end up with AB strolling back like some God like figure..strutting around the stadium in full superior German fashion.. His 'demands' will be agreed and fought over with every one on the proviso of 'give me want I want or I walk'...he'll have KN's nuts in his hand... I don't think that will be a good thing to give to an employee. He'll basically end up running the club. It won't end well for us. ef Seems to me a guy like KN who's had the business success and amassed the fortune he has wouldn't take too kindly to someone thinking the have his nuts in their hand Absolutely...but we're seeing AB holding the club to ransom aren't we...basically , if you want me to stay then you must give me this, this and this. So what happens when the 'this' hits a problem ? AB seems to have the upper hand here but of course I'm only speculating that AB has set 'conditions' although I'm sure KN will have some sort of budget for League One. My feeling is the first time KN might say "How much "? , AB will fly home.
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Post by King Neil on May 10, 2024 10:45:37 GMT 1
If he stays we will all have to wear sunglasses to games Because apparently the sun shines out of his arse That’s OK, because you can just reuse the ones you wore when Warnock was in charge. 👍
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Post by King Neil on May 10, 2024 10:48:12 GMT 1
Maybe there's no Phone signal in his bunker?
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Post by dezzly on May 10, 2024 10:49:58 GMT 1
The only thing it’s delaying at present is probably moving on another manager.But no doubt any we want have been spoken to already in some degree.nearly all players at all clubs with exception of premier league clubs and playoff teams will be on holiday. I want it sorting as soon as possible and preferably today just for my personal sanity if anything but I don’t think a few more days make any difference club wise. I understand the arguement that if he’s that undecided then maybe it’s not a good idea however. By the same token managers take time to make decisions on moving up the ladder all the time so don’t see why it should be any different going the other way,from his personal standpoint it’s probably a fairly big decision.It’s easy to be black or white from a fan standpoint. Let’s just hope it’s sorted very very soon just for the sake of it’s a talking point and one of many decisions done and dusted.
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Post by ram on May 10, 2024 10:51:28 GMT 1
Procrastination is the thief of time.
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Post by Uddersfeeled on May 10, 2024 10:51:32 GMT 1
Warnock may not be without blame but this attempt by some to lay relegation at his doorstep smells of desperation by AB and Cartwright and Co to save as much face as possible. Did you not know it was Warnocks fault the players couldn’t string five passes together? That 'playoff' squad !! Can we not move on from Warnock now FFS (and I realise I'm contributing to that) !! The ifs and buts, the whys and wherefores, it's been done to death and is getting very tiresome. He's gone and ain't coming back. Get over it !
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Post by King Neil on May 10, 2024 10:52:23 GMT 1
Carlos will be available next week
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Post by boooothy on May 10, 2024 10:52:53 GMT 1
This wait is pissing me off but a bit of reality is needed.
I know we all love Town but André has a point. We are in Division 3.
His CV is let’s be honest, amazing. I couldn’t believe he joined us in the Championship. It was Oggy’s first question, why? Probably not clever in hindsight straight away making him feel like he’s doing us a favour.
Back to my point. You wouldn’t expect him to manage Peterborough, Barnsley or Bolton. I think he’s worth waiting for.
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Post by htafcokay on May 10, 2024 10:54:26 GMT 1
Did you not know it was Warnocks fault the players couldn’t string five passes together? That 'playoff' squad !!
Can we not move on from Warnock now FFS (and I realise I'm contributing to that) !! The ifs and buts, the whys and wherefores, it's been done to death and is getting very tiresome. He's gone and ain't coming back. Get over it ! Typical Warnock mind games. Said last season he wouldn't swap our defence for Chelsea's. Said that Josh Ruffels was the best left-back in the Championship. Said that Sol Bamba was a better defender than Virgil Van Dijk. Do you really think he believes all that? Or is it more a case of his man-management where he makes his players feel like 10 men? We can move on from Warnock, but it was Breitenreiter that brought him back up and then continued by Nagle in his video diary.
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Post by kiwiblue on May 10, 2024 11:00:11 GMT 1
Procrastination is the thief of time. I'll think about this tomorrow.......
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Post by goodbet on May 10, 2024 11:00:49 GMT 1
This wait is pissing me off but a bit of reality is needed. I know we all love Town but André has a point. We are in Division 3. His CV is let’s be honest, amazing. I couldn’t believe he joint us in the Championship. It was Oggy’s first question, why? Probably not clever in hindsight straight away making him feel like he’s doing us a favour. Back to my point. You wouldn’t expect him to manage Peterborough, Barnsley or Bolton. I think he’s worth waiting for. CV's are one thing delivering is another, as we found out after he arrived.
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Post by hoggy1975 on May 10, 2024 11:02:39 GMT 1
Did you not know it was Warnocks fault the players couldn’t string five passes together? That 'playoff' squad !! Can we not move on from Warnock now FFS (and I realise I'm contributing to that) !! The ifs and buts, the whys and wherefores, it's been done to death and is getting very tiresome. He's gone and ain't coming back. Get over it ! Why feel the need to say that to me? I am well over it. The players are shite and were in the bottom 3 clubs for pass completion. That is a fact.
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Post by efesodje23 on May 10, 2024 11:04:15 GMT 1
The squad and coaching staff is going to be a huge rebuild.
Do you really want to give a manager with little to no commitment all the tools and financial backing to make changes to fit his ethos, vision and set-up for him to go ''Nah, I cba with this'' after 4 games when we're 12th in L1?
Our ''long-term'' appointment doesn't want to be here long term. So why plan as if he is going to be here long term.
End of the day, he'll only end up signing 3 wingers and play them all central and have Kasumu playing on the flank anyway. Tactical genius my backside.
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 10, 2024 11:11:00 GMT 1
This wait is pissing me off but a bit of reality is needed. I know we all love Town but André has a point. We are in Division 3. His CV is let’s be honest, amazing. I couldn’t believe he joint us in the Championship. It was Oggy’s first question, why? Probably not clever in hindsight straight away making him feel like he’s doing us a favour. Back to my point. You wouldn’t expect him to manage Peterborough, Barnsley or Bolton. I think he’s worth waiting for. He was managing FC Zurich a couple of seasons ago. No way are they a bigger club or play in a bigger league than the championship. He then got sacked after 20 odd games at his next club and was out of work for 12 months before we picked him up. Why couldn't you believe he joined us in the Championship?
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Post by htafcokay on May 10, 2024 11:13:19 GMT 1
This wait is pissing me off but a bit of reality is needed. I know we all love Town but André has a point. We are in Division 3. His CV is let’s be honest, amazing. I couldn’t believe he joint us in the Championship. It was Oggy’s first question, why? Probably not clever in hindsight straight away making him feel like he’s doing us a favour. Back to my point. You wouldn’t expect him to manage Peterborough, Barnsley or Bolton. I think he’s worth waiting for. He was managing FC Zurich a couple of seasons ago. No way are they a bigger club or play in a bigger league than the championship. He then got sacked after 20 odd games at his next club and was out of work for 12 months before we picked him up.Why couldn't you believe he joined us in the Championship? That was a choice. He was looking after his dying father.
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Post by belizian on May 10, 2024 11:13:54 GMT 1
Get rid. He can't commit. End of story.
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Post by Dorset-Terrier on May 10, 2024 11:15:34 GMT 1
If this silence continues we’re gonna be a laughing stock (if we aren’t already)…AB spouting on about players wanting away and now this….
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Post by oneneilwarnock on May 10, 2024 11:16:16 GMT 1
God there's a serious lack of IQ in our fan base, of course the club will know what he's doing by now. Likelihood is they are scrambling to sort a replacement asap. Imagine Andre has long let them know his plans, be asking questions of the clubs plan B more than anything as currently it looks like that's where we are heading.
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Post by htafcokay on May 10, 2024 11:16:24 GMT 1
That 'playoff' squad !! Can we not move on from Warnock now FFS (and I realise I'm contributing to that) !! The ifs and buts, the whys and wherefores, it's been done to death and is getting very tiresome. He's gone and ain't coming back. Get over it ! Why feel the need to say that to me? I am well over it. The players are shite and were in the bottom 3 clubs for pass completion. That is a fact. No no no no no no no no, they're not shite!!
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 10, 2024 11:16:32 GMT 1
This wait is pissing me off but a bit of reality is needed. I know we all love Town but André has a point. We are in Division 3. His CV is let’s be honest, amazing. I couldn’t believe he joint us in the Championship. It was Oggy’s first question, why? Probably not clever in hindsight straight away making him feel like he’s doing us a favour. Back to my point. You wouldn’t expect him to manage Peterborough, Barnsley or Bolton. I think he’s worth waiting for. CV's are one thing delivering is another, as we found out after he arrived. I’m not making any comparisons here, but if the truth about Ferguson being one game from the sack all those years ago is true, imagine what a different path Man Utd might have trodden? At the end of the day, whether he stays or leaves is just another episode in our cycle of Mgrs over the years. If he stays he’ll leave at some point anyway, as will KN, as did DH etc. The one constant is HTFC…
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