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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 11:48:45 GMT 1
But theyre not hiking up prices crazily. If they go up £50 thats £2 a game. The price of half a bag of chips... 2 packets of crisps... Between 3 and 4 cigs...half a lager... First rise in 8 years after 8 years of extremely low prices. Everyone needs to get real! The club have even said they intend to increase it to a moderate amount OVER THE NEXT 5 YEARS! And they get stick for that even!! It's like an ongoing comedy sketch is this. What right do the theoretical tiny amount of people who cant afford this £2 a game rise have to suggest the club is wrong to do it and that the club needs to base its entire pricing policy around them, with the expectation that Nagle carries all the cost to make up for it? All the time whilst moaning that the product isnt good enough. Theres been one bloke saying him and his 5 mates will stop going if their SC goes up £1 !! And you wonder why I question their support of the club?? Honestly if this thread gets highlighted on other clubs' boards, not just in this division but all the way through the pyramid, they'd think it was a piss-take! It’s only £2 a game if you attend every game. I’ve already missed 6 this season due to a variety of reasons; holiday, Boxing Day, night matches, being near unwatchable under Moore, etc. Using your numbers (assuming 6 games missed and £250 > £300 season ticket price) you’d be paying £2.94 more a game.
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Post by ldr on Mar 29, 2024 11:57:43 GMT 1
I think there are 2 factors involved for most people. First is affordability, and second is value for money. Sometimes the line in the middle will blurred aacross both. On affordability, some fans may simply not be able to afford the extra £50/£100. Yes, the club do finance, so the monthly nay rise £10 month which as you keeo saying is only a couple of pints these days, but, if you're someone who has very little disposable income and all your bills have also gone up £x per month, you may find yourself in a position whereby that extra £10 is the difference between paying a bill and not. For people such as yourself who cone across as being abke to afford a price rise, its all well and good sitting there saying 'its only the same as a couple of pints' but if you haven't been able to afford them pints in the first place then you can see why someone may sack of the season tickets to enable them to pay for other more essential things. On value for money, some fans may well be able to afford the price rise, but due to the extra cost no longer see it as value for money so go find something else to do on a Saturday they find more enjoyable for the outlay of money. Average of £15 per game may well be cheaper than others, it well be good value for some, but some, they will find other stuff to do for £15. Also factor in families, myself as an example. And extra £100 on my ticket is affordable, but add extra to my 2 lads and that £100 soon becomes £200. Suddenly an extra £20 per month to find. Again some may simply not be able to afford that, and some may find other things to do with thier kids which costs the same/less on a Saturday. That then eats into the other areas of income such as shirt sales etc etc. When a price is the price for a long period it just becomes the norm, regardless of what others charge. Just because it’s been cheap in the past doesn't justify a price rise when the product on offer hasn't improved. In sure those of us have read the accounts are fully aware that the club needs to generate more income, im just not sure that increasing season card prices which could result in a downturn in fans for rhe sake of £500k (as a rough estimate) is the best way of doing it. Edit - Just also add, a lot more games will be on TV soon, which will also play a big part in fans decision to renew or not. Yeah this is the issue. The prices being so low at Town over the last decade or so (including a promotion and a 3rd place finish & 2 seasons of Premier League football) has distorted the view of normal. Most fans of other clubs would be paying minimum double in the Premier League and £400+ in the championship. We’ve been extremely fortunate to have them so low for so long, but surely everyone is aware that we have had it good & at some point they would revert to actual normal prices. What what exactly is ‘normal’? In recent history, normal for us is relatively cheap. More importantly, each club is unique and will charge what their market will allow. A good comparison is the theatre. I saw a production (standing at the sky’s edge, a masterpiece btw) at the Crucible 18 months ago. Decent tickets at £30. It’s now on an extended run in the West End and comparable tickets are £100. Same product, different theatres, charging what the market will bear.
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 12:00:16 GMT 1
Yeah this is the issue. The prices being so low at Town over the last decade or so (including a promotion and a 3rd place finish & 2 seasons of Premier League football) has distorted the view of normal. Most fans of other clubs would be paying minimum double in the Premier League and £400+ in the championship. We’ve been extremely fortunate to have them so low for so long, but surely everyone is aware that we have had it good & at some point they would revert to actual normal prices. What what exactly is ‘normal’? In recent history, normal for us is relatively cheap. More importantly, each club is unique and will charge what their market will allow. A good comparison is the theatre. I saw a production (standing at the sky’s edge, a masterpiece btw) at the Crucible 18 months ago. Decent tickets at £30. It’s now on an extended run in the West End and comparable tickets are £100. Same product, different theatres, charging what the market will bear. I think it’s fair to say that the league average is normal. Other clubs would certainly look at our prices and think they aren’t normal anyway.
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Post by ldr on Mar 29, 2024 12:01:05 GMT 1
Yeah this is the issue. The prices being so low at Town over the last decade or so (including a promotion and a 3rd place finish & 2 seasons of Premier League football) has distorted the view of normal. Most fans of other clubs would be paying minimum double in the Premier League and £400+ in the championship. We’ve been extremely fortunate to have them so low for so long, but surely everyone is aware that we have had it good & at some point they would revert to actual normal prices. What what exactly is ‘normal’? In recent history, normal for us is relatively cheap. More importantly, each club is unique and will charge what their market will allow. A good comparison is the theatre. I saw a production (standing at the sky’s edge, a masterpiece btw) at the Crucible 18 months ago. Decent tickets at £30. It’s now on an extended run in the West End and comparable tickets are £100. Same product, different theatres, charging what the market will bear. PS: the fundamental difference with this comparison is that the show is performing twice a day to sell out audiences. The fine line that Town have to tread is to maximize the price without losing large amounts of fans; the classic supply and demand scenario.
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Post by ldr on Mar 29, 2024 12:04:25 GMT 1
What what exactly is ‘normal’? In recent history, normal for us is relatively cheap. More importantly, each club is unique and will charge what their market will allow. A good comparison is the theatre. I saw a production (standing at the sky’s edge, a masterpiece btw) at the Crucible 18 months ago. Decent tickets at £30. It’s now on an extended run in the West End and comparable tickets are £100. Same product, different theatres, charging what the market will bear. I think it’s fair to say that the league average is normal. Other clubs would certainly look at our prices and think they aren’t normal anyway. I would say the league average is the average! I would assert that ‘normal’ doesn’t exist as everybody’s assumption of normal is different. With that in mind, I accept that we pay below average but then we also must assume that this is OUR normal.
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Post by dooky82 on Mar 29, 2024 12:08:02 GMT 1
I really don't get it when supporters say they will stop attending if we get relegated. Pozza’s post above makes some excellent points. If the authorities start dicking about with Saturday ko times going into next season meaning more earlier starts on a Saturday on top of night games which are already a ballache for me plus I have 2 full price season cards to shell out for with me having a lad at uni in his last year who will be 23 come the start of next season and then you throw in possible relegation with significant increases on the price of season cards on top, it’ll be one in four pay on the gate for me and I’ll use my fire stick for the rest. Agree Pizza makes some excellent points and I understand the financial issues but do not understand those who would stop attending in event of relegation. If the quality of the beer in my local got worse I might stop going, but if the quality of my mum's Sunday roast got worse I'd still turn up every week. We are surely more than just customers paying to see a product.
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Post by willo on Mar 29, 2024 12:11:20 GMT 1
It’s only £2 a game if you attend every game. I’ve already missed 6 this season due to a variety of reasons; holiday, Boxing Day, night matches, being near unwatchable under Moore, etc. Using your numbers (assuming 6 games missed and £250 > £300 season ticket price) you’d be paying £2.94 more a game. X2 and assuming they only go up by £50.
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 12:13:03 GMT 1
Using your numbers (assuming 6 games missed and £250 > £300 season ticket price) you’d be paying £2.94 more a game. X2 and assuming they only go up by £50. What’s x2?
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 29, 2024 12:13:20 GMT 1
I’m taking the six year old grandson to Hampton & Richmond v Tonbridge (weather dependent) this afternoon in the National League South. Possibly my favourite non-league ground and the grandson loves H&R’s shirt. I’ve just checked their season ticket prices for the current season out of curiosity, and they’re £250 adults, £160 concession. Matchday admission £19 or £15 concession. I we need to mobe away from comparison between Town and Non-League prices. Non-League teams have very little income other than ticket sales. They have no TV money, little merchandise sales, sponsorship etc, so they are priced to ensure clubs continue to run. At Town we have numerous other income streams we can look to improve to increase revenue before starting to increase prices for supporters.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 29, 2024 12:16:38 GMT 1
I think there are 2 factors involved for most people. First is affordability, and second is value for money. Sometimes the line in the middle will blurred aacross both. On affordability, some fans may simply not be able to afford the extra £50/£100. Yes, the club do finance, so the monthly nay rise £10 month which as you keeo saying is only a couple of pints these days, but, if you're someone who has very little disposable income and all your bills have also gone up £x per month, you may find yourself in a position whereby that extra £10 is the difference between paying a bill and not. For people such as yourself who cone across as being abke to afford a price rise, its all well and good sitting there saying 'its only the same as a couple of pints' but if you haven't been able to afford them pints in the first place then you can see why someone may sack of the season tickets to enable them to pay for other more essential things. On value for money, some fans may well be able to afford the price rise, but due to the extra cost no longer see it as value for money so go find something else to do on a Saturday they find more enjoyable for the outlay of money. Average of £15 per game may well be cheaper than others, it well be good value for some, but some, they will find other stuff to do for £15. Also factor in families, myself as an example. And extra £100 on my ticket is affordable, but add extra to my 2 lads and that £100 soon becomes £200. Suddenly an extra £20 per month to find. Again some may simply not be able to afford that, and some may find other things to do with thier kids which costs the same/less on a Saturday. That then eats into the other areas of income such as shirt sales etc etc. When a price is the price for a long period it just becomes the norm, regardless of what others charge. Just because it’s been cheap in the past doesn't justify a price rise when the product on offer hasn't improved. In sure those of us have read the accounts are fully aware that the club needs to generate more income, im just not sure that increasing season card prices which could result in a downturn in fans for rhe sake of £500k (as a rough estimate) is the best way of doing it. Edit - Just also add, a lot more games will be on TV soon, which will also play a big part in fans decision to renew or not. Yeah this is the issue. The prices being so low at Town over the last decade or so (including a promotion and a 3rd place finish & 2 seasons of Premier League football) has distorted the view of normal. Most fans of other clubs would be paying minimum double in the Premier League and £400+ in the championship. We’ve been extremely fortunate to have them so low for so long, but surely everyone is aware that we have had it good & at some point they would revert to actual normal prices. For us the cheap price IS the normal though, and that's part of the problem. If Wetherpoons suddenly stuck £3 on the price of a pint with the reason that they've been cheal for long so are now just putting prices up in line with other pubs, do you think the number of sales of pints would be the same? Same principle applies here.
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Post by ldr on Mar 29, 2024 12:23:07 GMT 1
X2 and assuming they only go up by £50. What’s x2? He buys two season cards.
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Post by ldr on Mar 29, 2024 12:28:22 GMT 1
Yeah this is the issue. The prices being so low at Town over the last decade or so (including a promotion and a 3rd place finish & 2 seasons of Premier League football) has distorted the view of normal. Most fans of other clubs would be paying minimum double in the Premier League and £400+ in the championship. We’ve been extremely fortunate to have them so low for so long, but surely everyone is aware that we have had it good & at some point they would revert to actual normal prices. For us the cheap price IS the normal though, and that's part of the problem. If Wetherpoons suddenly stuck £3 on the price of a pint with the reason that they've been cheal for long so are now just putting prices up in line with other pubs, do you think the number of sales of pints would be the same? Same principle applies here. Exactly! I think the economics of Spoons is widely used in Economics teaching as is my example of the theatre. The classic economics maxim of ‘all things being equal’ means that we cannot compare Town to Halifax or to Liverpool or even to Leicester City.
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 12:28:35 GMT 1
He buys two season cards. Got you
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 29, 2024 12:29:15 GMT 1
Any rise has to be seen in the context of the club being run into the ground already over the past 5 years. Lots of fans have already had enough of watching yearly struggles and endless false dawns the new managers bring.
Chuck in the fact we have spent £4.7m on clowns this season, still leaving us with a very poor, imbalanced squad and in another desperate fight for survival.
If the product is poor, folk won’t pay for it. No amount of fanzone gimmicks will change that.
Fools at the club who think the price ‘devalues the product’ rather than the 3 managers we’ve endured in each of the last two seasons, the lack of quality, skill and vision in the squad, the lack of goals and results on the pitch of the lack of inspiration from the board are taking the piss out of every fan we have.
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Post by dooky82 on Mar 29, 2024 12:32:16 GMT 1
Any rise has to be seen in the context of the club being run into the ground already over the past 5 years. Lots of fans have already had enough of watching yearly struggles and endless false dawns the new managers bring. Chuck in the fact we have spent £4.7m on clowns this season, still leaving us with a very poor, imbalanced squad and in another desperate fight for survival. If the product is poor, folk won’t pay for it. No amount of fanzone gimmicks will change that. Fools at the club who think the price ‘devalues the product’ rather than the 3 managers we’ve endured in each of the last two seasons, the lack of quality, skill and vision in the squad, the lack of goals and results on the pitch of the lack of inspiration from the board are taking the piss out of every fan we have. All this "product" nonsense... If folk want to watch quality football every week they can easily head over to Man City. Personally for me it's about supporting my local club through thick and thin.
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Post by willo on Mar 29, 2024 12:35:47 GMT 1
X2 and assuming they only go up by £50. What’s x2? I have 2 season cards to shell out for.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 29, 2024 12:38:13 GMT 1
For us the cheap price IS the normal though, and that's part of the problem. If Wetherpoons suddenly stuck £3 on the price of a pint with the reason that they've been cheal for long so are now just putting prices up in line with other pubs, do you think the number of sales of pints would be the same? Same principle applies here. Exactly! I think the economics of Spoons is widely used in Economics teaching as is my example of the theatre. The classic economics maxim of ‘all things being equal’ means that we cannot compare Town to Halifax or to Liverpool or even to Leicester City. What about comparing it to PNE? Similiar location and area to Huddersfield in terms of their citizens wealth, demographics etc. Similiar sized ground, similar budgets, similiar ambitions amongst the fan base. Basically the red rose version of Huddersfield Town. I see they did an early bird offer with adult prices starting at £280 to £380 depending on area of ground. Rising to £400 to £535 after the early bird price.
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Post by willo on Mar 29, 2024 12:39:32 GMT 1
Yeah this is the issue. The prices being so low at Town over the last decade or so (including a promotion and a 3rd place finish & 2 seasons of Premier League football) has distorted the view of normal. Most fans of other clubs would be paying minimum double in the Premier League and £400+ in the championship. We’ve been extremely fortunate to have them so low for so long, but surely everyone is aware that we have had it good & at some point they would revert to actual normal prices. For us the cheap price IS the normal though, and that's part of the problem. If Wetherpoons suddenly stuck £3 on the price of a pint with the reason that they've been cheal for long so are now just putting prices up in line with other pubs, do you think the number of sales of pints would be the same? Same principle applies here. Another good point. The only reason (and I suspect many others) step inside a Wetherspoon’s is because the ale is cheap.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 29, 2024 12:41:39 GMT 1
Any rise has to be seen in the context of the club being run into the ground already over the past 5 years. Lots of fans have already had enough of watching yearly struggles and endless false dawns the new managers bring. Chuck in the fact we have spent £4.7m on clowns this season, still leaving us with a very poor, imbalanced squad and in another desperate fight for survival. If the product is poor, folk won’t pay for it. No amount of fanzone gimmicks will change that. Fools at the club who think the price ‘devalues the product’ rather than the 3 managers we’ve endured in each of the last two seasons, the lack of quality, skill and vision in the squad, the lack of goals and results on the pitch of the lack of inspiration from the board are taking the piss out of every fan we have. All this "product" nonsense... If folk want to watch quality football every week they can easily head over to Man City. Personally for me it's about supporting my local club through thick and thin. Yep. The difference is, the club know that there’s about 8000 folk like you they need do bugger all to attract. Everything is geared towards the 10,000 floating fans who they are desperate to woo. They aren’t emotionally invested and to them it very much is a product. Us hairy-arsed, middle aged blokes who share tales of watching back in the 80s would struggle to maintain a L2 club.
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Post by dooky82 on Mar 29, 2024 12:49:03 GMT 1
All this "product" nonsense... If folk want to watch quality football every week they can easily head over to Man City. Personally for me it's about supporting my local club through thick and thin. Yep. The difference is, the club know that there’s about 8000 folk like you they need do bugger all to attract. Everything is geared towards the 10,000 floating fans who they are desperate to woo. They aren’t emotionally invested and to them it very much is a product. Us hairy-arsed, middle aged blokes who share tales of watching back in the 80s would struggle to maintain a L2 club. Maybe a relegation could be the spark? The product when we had Lee Clark in charge was infinitely better than the last few seasons despite the fact we didn't actually achieve anything. It's almost unimaginable that we had a striker who scored 40 goals in a season for us. These days it's closer to 4.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Mar 29, 2024 12:51:51 GMT 1
I’m taking the six year old grandson to Hampton & Richmond v Tonbridge (weather dependent) this afternoon in the National League South. Possibly my favourite non-league ground and the grandson loves H&R’s shirt. I’ve just checked their season ticket prices for the current season out of curiosity, and they’re £250 adults, £160 concession. Matchday admission £19 or £15 concession. We need to move away from comparison between Town and Non-League prices.
Non-League teams have very little income other than ticket sales. They have no TV money, little merchandise sales, sponsorship etc, so they are priced to ensure clubs continue to run.
At Town we have numerous other income streams we can look to improve to increase revenue before starting to increase prices for supporters. This, this and thrice this. In fact, given the fucking obscene amount of money that comes into the English professional game, attendance charges should be a negligible source of revenue the higher up the league you are. Sensible, affordable prices, such as in the German league, should be the norm. As for the ‘missing 4000’ ST holders from many games - it’s not the cheap price devaluing the experience that’s stopping them going, it’s the fucking rubbish on the pitch that’s doing it. If Warnock, for example, had still been in charge until André’s appointment, and the results had been the same BUT the games had been end-to-end thrillers most weeks, the vast majority of those 4000 would still have come. And that scenario is entirely down to the Club.
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Post by willo on Mar 29, 2024 12:53:15 GMT 1
Comparing products is an interesting one. I go see a lot of bands/artists and ticket prices can range typically from £20 to well in excess of £100 - if I really want to see that particular act. Almost without exception, it will be a great night out and the 2 hours or so will fly by. I walk out feeling I’ve had full value for money pretty much every single time. I get it’s a gamble with football but this season and for so many in recent times the product has been awful. Every summer, I hand my money over and I absolutely cannot say I’ve had anything close to value for money. This season has been a prime example and I got to the point under Moore that I knew what to expect before a ball was kicked and decided it wasn’t worth leaving my 4 walls for. I will buy into the hope of next season (there we go again, there’s always next season) even when the cost of a season card is raised - so long as they are not raised excessively - and we retain our Championship status. I know we’ll get the usual mantra that we’ll be investing in the summer and things will change, blah, blah, blah, but it’s funny how these things don’t transpire once we’ve handed our hard earned over.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 29, 2024 13:03:32 GMT 1
Just been reading the accounts, and its says in there that nearly £1m in managerial compensation has been paid out in last 2 yrs, and that wont include Warnock or Moore and their teams.
If they club want to increase the money available to them to improve the playing squad, maybe people down there employed to run the footballing side of things start performing to vast amounts of money leaving the bank account!
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Post by ldr on Mar 29, 2024 13:06:35 GMT 1
Exactly! I think the economics of Spoons is widely used in Economics teaching as is my example of the theatre. The classic economics maxim of ‘all things being equal’ means that we cannot compare Town to Halifax or to Liverpool or even to Leicester City. What about comparing it to PNE? Similiar location and area to Huddersfield in terms of their citizens wealth, demographics etc. Similiar sized ground, similar budgets, similiar ambitions amongst the fan base. Basically the red rose version of Huddersfield Town. I see they did an early bird offer with adult prices starting at £280 to £380 depending on area of ground. Rising to £400 to £535 after the early bird price. Possibly, probably. But, in economic terms, each club should be treated as a separate entity; in other words, unique. I’m not an economist btw but did have to endure economics study at postgraduate study; it was fucking hard work! But as Dooky keeps saying (and rightly imo), first and foremost, we are fans of the club and that clouds our economic judgement when purchasing a product. The Club knows this and will try to charge what the market will bear so that the economic benefits outweigh the disbenefits. Their lack of fan engagement in this process, other than Carmichael on here, is what worries me. In other words, are they reading the room?
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 29, 2024 13:13:31 GMT 1
It’s only £2 a game if you attend every game. I’ve already missed 6 this season due to a variety of reasons; holiday, Boxing Day, night matches, being near unwatchable under Moore, etc. Using your numbers (assuming 6 games missed and £250 > £300 season ticket price) you’d be paying £2.94 more a game. Do t miss the games
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 29, 2024 13:17:51 GMT 1
If that’s your feeling you will be pleased if they make behind the goals the cheaper seats , personally I do think behind the goals are the worst views and wouldn’t sit in the north stand for love nor money. The south stand at least offers atmospheric match pleasures( but put the prices up that will quickly disappear ) but I do feel the kilner and riverside are better viewing platforms and therefore should be charged more for that advantage. Good job we're all different, it'd be pretty crowded behind the goals if 16,000 Town fans shared my preferences!! It’s obvious they don’t as the prices are the same all over the ground and the north stand upper and lower are empty.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 29, 2024 13:19:10 GMT 1
Exactly! I think the economics of Spoons is widely used in Economics teaching as is my example of the theatre. The classic economics maxim of ‘all things being equal’ means that we cannot compare Town to Halifax or to Liverpool or even to Leicester City. What about comparing it to PNE? Similiar location and area to Huddersfield in terms of their citizens wealth, demographics etc. Similiar sized ground, similar budgets, similiar ambitions amongst the fan base. Basically the red rose version of Huddersfield Town. I see they did an early bird offer with adult prices starting at £280 to £380 depending on area of ground. Rising to £400 to £535 after the early bird price. I did exactly that a few pages back in the thread Club | Average Attendance | Match Day Revenue | Season | Norwich | 26069 | £10m | 22/23 | Middlesbrough | 26234 | £8.8m | 22/23 | Stoke | 20570 | £7.6m | 22/23 | Watford | 19172 | £6.8m | 22/23 | Bristol City | 20374 | £6.3m | 22/23 | Millwall | 12950 | £5.8m | 21/22 | QPR | 14977 | £5.7m | 22/23 | Hull | 12888 | £5.6m | 21/22 | Town | 20076 | £5.2m | 21/22 | West Brom | 21788 | £5.1m | 21/22 | Cardiff | 18869 | £4.7m | 21/22 | Coventry | 19451 | £4.3m | 21/22 | Swansea | 17389 | £4.2m | 21/22 | Birmingham | 16162 | £4.2m | 21/22 | Preston | 16287 | £3.9m | 22/23 | Blackburn | 13478 | £3.4m | 21/22 | Rotherham | 10515 | £2.5m | 22/23 |
Most clubs who have been in the championship over the 2 accounting periods shown. Town doing OK in mid table, in spite of 'dirt cheap' season cards. I'll let someone else do the commercial revenue version, which has us in the relegation zone. Just coming back to the list. Match Day income in the latest set of accounts shows £3.9m, so we would be joint 3rd bottom with Preston, with a 3,789 higher attendance figure. Looking at Preston (as its the same amount) they sell adult tickets ranging from £280 (Early Bird)/£400 (Non Early Bird) to £535, and appear (from what I can see) to have category pricing depending on block sat in within the same stand. Interestingly they allow U11s in for free which I think is great. They sold around 11,300 when the early bird prices came to an end (3rd June 2023) and around 11% of these were new Season Card holders for the season so the reduction in price certainly enticed new fans to attend, or attracted existing fans who may have stopped going due to cost. I suppose the point to consider here would if prices were put up to the same as Preston, would we lose around 4k fans in doing so? If we did then the net on ticket sales alone would be the same as them, but we would potentially lose a lot of 'non-ticket matchday income' alongside it so would effectively be worse off over the course of the season.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 29, 2024 13:23:15 GMT 1
Yup. When does watching Town go from being essential to you to somewhat of a luxury? You start hiking up prices crazily and folk simply won’t bother any longer, especially with all these different ko times coming in. It's never been essential has it? ..it's a hobby... an interest. If anyone cant stomach paying a small increase for the first time in 8 years to do their hobby then I guess its just not something theyre that bothered about anyway. Begs the question why theyre even on this board if their hobby means so little to them that they'd rather jack it in than face the trauma of paying a couple of quid more to do it. Reading this thread you really dont do HTFC any good with the way you promote price increases , most will pay more to go watch town but if any fans have any doubts your posts will do nothing but convince folk to stop going. Give the club a break and let the club promote the ST s because your speil definitely isn’t a great help.
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Post by mukydaz on Mar 29, 2024 13:24:01 GMT 1
Put £300-£370 but the tiers system is bullshit...you pick your place in a ground on preference not on price so if your choice is to sit in the area the cretins call the Cowshed lol...my opinion on that subject is unprintable....i choose to sit in what i call the Riverside and dont believe my choice should cost me more than others pay
For me if we stay in championship..price should be £350-£370...if relegated price should be £300-£325
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 29, 2024 13:33:04 GMT 1
Put £300-£370 but the tiers system is bullshit...you pick your place in a ground on preference not on price so if your choice is to sit in the area the cretins call the Cowshed lol...my opinion on that subject is unprintable....i choose to sit in what i call the Riverside and dont believe my choice should cost me more than others pay For me if we stay in championship..price should be £350-£370...if relegated price should be £300-£325 Lovely choice of words , calling fellow town fans cretins because they sit or stand in a different part of the ground .A hint of snobbery in your post. Maybe that snobbery will be tested if prices rise in the stand you choose to sit in. Maybe you will pay to sit with better clientele ( often a common theme in life). Your own wording as well. Although going on your post , I’m guessing it’s very unlikely you’re a better clientele. .
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