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Post by benhomly on Mar 29, 2024 20:14:32 GMT 1
They weren't very loyal today. Barely 100 of them left at the final whistle. Not that I blame them of course, just an observation. There's about 30 people in the Cowshed Loyal isn't there? (as opposed to the people who are in the South Stand, that the Cowshed Loyal happen to also be in). I was obviously tarring them all in there with the same brush. My bad.
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Post by Floyds on Mar 29, 2024 20:18:10 GMT 1
£70 I paid today to take my kids to that.
I know it’s what I’d pay anywhere else as well but value for money / good entertainment it definitely is not.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 29, 2024 20:37:16 GMT 1
What a strange, pathetic, angry little boy you are. If Town fans trying to make an atmosphere in the ground really riles you up (which it clearly does) then it's time for you to quit football. Go and take your senseless ramblings into a dark corner where you can chunter to yourself about the 'good old days'. Atmosphere is great and ive alway appreciated it in all matches...supported town since 1970 so ill just keep doing that regardless of the ones who dont like opinions...ive stated my opinion,you dont agree thats fine...enjoy your days It wasn’t an opinion just insults at a stand full of town fans . You keep telling yourself it’s an opinion.
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Post by paderbornterrier on Mar 29, 2024 20:43:11 GMT 1
I think the club would need to drop prices to keep the same level of support.
Put them up and it would offer the 7000 or so that have always been fair weather supporters the excuse they need to stop going and save face.
Next season needs to be a £199 season and they can drift them up in the Prem if that's what they are targeting.
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Post by stevvy on Mar 29, 2024 20:43:30 GMT 1
No, please do 'print' your opinion. I look forward to taking it to pieces and seeing how much of a tit you can make of yourself. No mate the tits are the dicks who stand in that end singing no-one takes the cowshed end...look across you bellends the away fans are at the side of you I stood in the cowshed at Leeds road every home game til 1994 and that was the cowshed,not a small piece at the side of the away fans..enjoy your time in there but most of them in there wouldnt even remember the proper cowshed has most probably weren't even born....call your end what you want..but the COWSHED died in 94...all your end now is embarrassing Cretins, tits, dicks, bellends. Any other insults you want to throw at TOWN FANS from behind your keyboard?
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 29, 2024 20:44:13 GMT 1
No, please do 'print' your opinion. I look forward to taking it to pieces and seeing how much of a tit you can make of yourself. No mate the tits are the dicks who stand in that end singing no-one takes the cowshed end...look across you bellends the away fans are at the side of you all your end now is embarrassing And so it begins…. 2-0 down today, I looked on at the passive game of football in front of me wondering to myself how many would come out tonight and give the Cowshed Loyal or south stand some stick. I wasn’t disappointed. Not so loyal, cretins, tits… yawn. Heard it all before. Ten years ive been with the Cowshed Loyal, with the sole aim to improve the atmosphere and in the last 10 seasons, we’ve been in 8 relegation battles. It comes a point where it’s wearing thin. Theres very little to work with anymore. The attendances have plummeted, everyone’s losing interest. Yet, muckydaz ( ?) finds the south stand more embarrassing than turning on his own fellow town fans who try to create something from nothing.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 29, 2024 20:54:44 GMT 1
If the remaining games are anything like today , good luck selling ST s at an increased price next year. That’s coming from a die hard.
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Post by dbterrier32 on Mar 29, 2024 21:17:28 GMT 1
Few comments on this thread mentioning value.
It’s quite an interesting aspect that. What do people class as good value?
Is good value seeing a team of less talented players (hard to imagine that is possible at the moment) but winning a lot more? Maybe you’d get that in league 1.
Is it seeing a better squad play but still not winning loads?
Is it style?
Or do you count the opposition in that? Would you rather see Town play better teams like Leicester rather than Bolton etc. or does that not even matter as long you get the value from Town
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 21:25:36 GMT 1
Few comments on this thread mentioning value. It’s quite an interesting aspect that. What do people class as good value? Is good value seeing a team of less talented players (hard to imagine that is possible at the moment) but winning a lot more? Maybe you’d get that in league 1. Is it seeing a better squad play but still not winning loads? Is it style? Or do you count the opposition in that? Would you rather see Town play better teams like Leicester rather than Bolton etc. or does that not even matter as long you get the value from Town If you think I'm paying top dollar to watch Town vs Fleetwood/Stevenage/Cheltenham/Shrewsbury then Nagle needs to think again.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 29, 2024 21:53:07 GMT 1
Few comments on this thread mentioning value. It’s quite an interesting aspect that. What do people class as good value? Is good value seeing a team of less talented players (hard to imagine that is possible at the moment) but winning a lot more? Maybe you’d get that in league 1. Is it seeing a better squad play but still not winning loads? Is it style? Or do you count the opposition in that? Would you rather see Town play better teams like Leicester rather than Bolton etc. or does that not even matter as long you get the value from Town I pay to watch Town, rhe opposition doesn't matter to me. Ive had a season ticket when we've been playing Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and ive had a season ticket when we've been playing Torquay, Mansfield, Bradford and Boston United. I think 'value' goes hand in hand with entertainment and winning football will always be more entertaining than losing football, no matter the level. Id imagine if you ask anyone had a season ticket in the League Two promotion season and the Premier League relegation which season they enjoyed more pretty 95% would say the League Two promotion season. Now, in football there are certainly no guarantees of winning football unless you support a Man City or a Liverpool, so at a Club like Town the 'value' comes from at least being competitive at the level you are at. You want to wake up on a Saturday and look forward to the game because you have a chance of getting a result. As it stands at the moment there isn't much hope, which is why 4000 fans are staying away. If we stay up the club will see it as a success, but fans will see the bigger picture and look to next season and predict another season of struggle and there is only so much of that you can take before you sack it off. Prices going up will only move people to that way of thinking even quicker. I can only speak for myself, but I would actually look forward to a League season more than a Championship one simply because I think wed be more competitive, wed have have a better chance of winning and therfore it would be more entertaining.
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 29, 2024 21:58:45 GMT 1
Few comments on this thread mentioning value. It’s quite an interesting aspect that. What do people class as good value? Is good value seeing a team of less talented players (hard to imagine that is possible at the moment) but winning a lot more? Maybe you’d get that in league 1. Is it seeing a better squad play but still not winning loads? Is it style? Or do you count the opposition in that? Would you rather see Town play better teams like Leicester rather than Bolton etc. or does that not even matter as long you get the value from Town I pay to watch Town, rhe opposition doesn't matter to me. Ive had a season ticket when we've been playing Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and ive had a season ticket when we've been playing Torquay, Mansfield, Bradford and Boston United. I think 'value' goes hand in hand with entertainment and winning football will always be more entertaining than losing football, no matter the level. Id imagine if you ask anyone had a season ticket in the League Two promotion season and the Premier League relegation which season they enjoyed more pretty 95% would say the League Two promotion season. Now, in football there are certainly no guarantees of winning football unless you support a Man City or a Liverpool, so at a Club like Town the 'value' comes from at least being competitive at the level you are at. You want to wake up on a Saturday and look forward to the game because you have a chance of getting a result. As it stands at the moment there isn't much hope, which is why 4000 fans are staying away. If we stay up the club will see it as a success, but fans will see the bigger picture and look to next season and predict another season of struggle and there is only so much of that you can take before you sack it off. Prices going up will only move people to that way of thinking even quicker. I can only speak for myself, but I would actually look forward to a League season more than a Championship one simply because I think wed be more competitive, wed have have a better chance of winning and therfore it would be more entertaining. Nothing tops the Division Three promotion for me.
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Post by terrierneil on Mar 29, 2024 22:06:33 GMT 1
Cowshed loyal are a myth. Didn't hear a peep and nobody there at the end. Embarassing.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 22:11:29 GMT 1
I don't buy in to this winning games in League One. It might be OK if we won promotion straight away but I certainly do not relish being stuck down there for season on season, there's no real entertainment value in beating Northampton week on week and teams of that ilk. Anyone who wants the best for Town does not want to to see us playing Northampton, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham over Coventry, Norwich and West Brom week in week out, if you do, I'd question your sanity.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 29, 2024 22:15:40 GMT 1
I don't buy in to this winning games in League One. It might be OK if we won promotion straight away but I certainly do not relish being stuck down there for season on season, there's no real entertainment value in beating Northampton week on week and teams of that ilk. Anyone who wants the best for Town does not want to to see us playing Northampton, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham over Coventry, Norwich and West Brom week in week out, if you do, I'd question your sanity. Genuine question, is there any value in staying in the The Championship and watching 23 games like todays?
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 22:17:59 GMT 1
I don't buy in to this winning games in League One. It might be OK if we won promotion straight away but I certainly do not relish being stuck down there for season on season, there's no real entertainment value in beating Northampton week on week and teams of that ilk. Anyone who wants the best for Town does not want to to see us playing Northampton, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham over Coventry, Norwich and West Brom week in week out, if you do, I'd question your sanity. I think people are optimistic for a reset and bounce back next year. I would take relegation now if we came straight back up. Get some winning culture back at the club rather than another struggle in the championship next season. Not that it’s guaranteed that we would do that, but I think that’s why people are saying it.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 22:18:27 GMT 1
I don't buy in to this winning games in League One. It might be OK if we won promotion straight away but I certainly do not relish being stuck down there for season on season, there's no real entertainment value in beating Northampton week on week and teams of that ilk. Anyone who wants the best for Town does not want to to see us playing Northampton, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham over Coventry, Norwich and West Brom week in week out, if you do, I'd question your sanity. Genuine question, is there any value in staying in the The Championship and watching 23 games like todays? Sorry mate but I'd rather be in The Championship than League One everyday of the week. The crowds would plummet and the away fans in League One would be non existent. I'd like to think if we do stay up the club would actually so something about what happens on the pitch.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Mar 29, 2024 22:18:38 GMT 1
Cowshed loyal are a myth. Didn't hear a peep and nobody there at the end. Embarassing. Bit harsh. We were 2-0 down in 20 minutes, what do you expect folk to do? Stadium got going again at 2-1, but we weren’t in the game until that point.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 29, 2024 22:20:58 GMT 1
I don't buy in to this winning games in League One. It might be OK if we won promotion straight away but I certainly do not relish being stuck down there for season on season, there's no real entertainment value in beating Northampton week on week and teams of that ilk. Anyone who wants the best for Town does not want to to see us playing Northampton, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham over Coventry, Norwich and West Brom week in week out, if you do, I'd question your sanity. I think people are optimistic for a reset and bounce back next year. I would take relegation now if we came straight back up. Get some winning culture back at the club rather than another struggle in the championship next season. Not that it’s guaranteed that we would do that, but I think that’s why people are saying it. How many clubs come straight back? Reading stuck, Derby on the 2nd season, Barnsley in their 2nd season, Bolton and Portsmouth been down to L2, tell you now, we'd very stuck down there.
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 22:24:38 GMT 1
I think people are optimistic for a reset and bounce back next year. I would take relegation now if we came straight back up. Get some winning culture back at the club rather than another struggle in the championship next season. Not that it’s guaranteed that we would do that, but I think that’s why people are saying it. How many clubs come straight back? Reading stuck, Derby on the 2nd season, Barnsley in their 2nd season, Bolton and Portsmouth been down to L2, tell you now, we'd very stuck down there. Interesting stats from We Are Terriers here - since 2012/13, teams relegated from the championship are now in these leagues: Premier League: 1 (Wolves) Championship: 8 (Blackburn, Bristol City, Hull, Ipswich, Millwall, Rotherham, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland) League One: 7 (Barnsley, Bolton, Burton, Charlton, Derby, Peterborough, Wycombe) League Two: 2 (Doncaster, MK Dons) National League: 0 National League North/South: 1 (Yeovil)
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 29, 2024 22:25:34 GMT 1
I don't buy in to this winning games in League One. It might be OK if we won promotion straight away but I certainly do not relish being stuck down there for season on season, there's no real entertainment value in beating Northampton week on week and teams of that ilk. Anyone who wants the best for Town does not want to to see us playing Northampton, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham over Coventry, Norwich and West Brom week in week out, if you do, I'd question your sanity. I think people are optimistic for a reset and bounce back next year. I would take relegation now if we came straight back up. Get some winning culture back at the club rather than another struggle in the championship next season. Not that it’s guaranteed that we would do that, but I think that’s why people are saying it. I remember people saying that in 2018-19.
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Post by harris on Mar 29, 2024 22:27:45 GMT 1
I think people are optimistic for a reset and bounce back next year. I would take relegation now if we came straight back up. Get some winning culture back at the club rather than another struggle in the championship next season. Not that it’s guaranteed that we would do that, but I think that’s why people are saying it. I remember people saying that in 2018-19. I was one of them lol. I think it is way easier to sort yourself out in league one than the championship though. Rotherham will likely be top 6 in league one next year and we know how shite they are.
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 29, 2024 22:31:07 GMT 1
I remember people saying that in 2018-19. I was one of them lol. I think it is way easier to sort yourself out in league one than the championship though. Rotherham will likely be top 6 in league one next year and we know how shite they are. I just don't think it's as easy as people think. Especially if we keep these serial losers. Bigger clubs have gone down and struggled to get back up. Took us 11 years last time, I don't fancy that again.
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Post by htfcterry on Mar 29, 2024 22:34:39 GMT 1
I was one of them lol. I think it is way easier to sort yourself out in league one than the championship though. Rotherham will likely be top 6 in league one next year and we know how shite they are. I just don't think it's as easy as people think. Especially if we keep these serial losers. Bigger clubs have gone down and struggled to get back up. Took us 11 years last time, I don't fancy that again. Jesus I'll be nearly 50 if it takes us 11 year to get out of there again 😂 The wage cap in League one will make it extremely difficult to get promoted within a season or 2. Especially if Cartwright is still there, he's done a pretty shit job without a wage cap.
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Post by sabailand on Mar 29, 2024 22:47:01 GMT 1
I remember people saying that in 2018-19. I was one of them lol. I think it is way easier to sort yourself out in league one than the championship though. Rotherham will likely be top 6 in league one next year and we know how shite they are. Probably right regarding Rotherham, they've been relegated a few times in recent years but they have the knack of getting promoted the season after, they seem to know what it takes.
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 29, 2024 22:50:41 GMT 1
Genuine question, is there any value in staying in the The Championship and watching 23 games like todays? Sorry mate but I'd rather be in The Championship than League One everyday of the week. The crowds would plummet and the away fans in League One would be non existent. I'd like to think if we do stay up the club would actually so something about what happens on the pitch. Each to their own. I hear what you say about sorting the on field stuff out, but we tried that in January and it hasn't exactly had a great effect, so forgive me if my confidence in that area isn't the highest
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 29, 2024 23:27:17 GMT 1
I don't buy in to this winning games in League One. It might be OK if we won promotion straight away but I certainly do not relish being stuck down there for season on season, there's no real entertainment value in beating Northampton week on week and teams of that ilk. Anyone who wants the best for Town does not want to to see us playing Northampton, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham over Coventry, Norwich and West Brom week in week out, if you do, I'd question your sanity. Genuine question, is there any value in staying in the The Championship and watching 23 games like todays? There’s massive value in staying in this league. As others have said, we could be stuck in the lower leagues for years to come. If by some miracle, we manage to survive, KN needs to employ someone who actually understands what’s required to formulate a competitive squad.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Mar 29, 2024 23:41:57 GMT 1
Genuine question, is there any value in staying in the The Championship and watching 23 games like todays? There’s massive value in staying in this league. As others have said, we could be stuck in the lower leagues for years to come. If by some miracle, we manage to survive, KN needs to employ someone who actually understands what’s required to formulate a competitive squad. If by some miracle we stay in this division, we cannot go again with this squad , it will be the death of many continuing supporting this club. Too many years of neglect and watching relegation battle after relegation battle. People talk about price increases , they will just be excuses to not return, many will not return anyway. The football is simply rubbish. Hardly any players in that town team are good enough for a top end championship team. Rudoni in glimpses maybe Helik , one day Spencer . That’s it.
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Post by willo on Mar 30, 2024 1:34:01 GMT 1
Genuine question, is there any value in staying in the The Championship and watching 23 games like todays? Sorry mate but I'd rather be in The Championship than League One everyday of the week. The crowds would plummet and the away fans in League One would be non existent. I'd like to think if we do stay up the club would actually so something about what happens on the pitch. It’s quite straightforward for me. Stay up and I’ll likely swallow any increase and renew. Go down and I won’t. I’ll pick my games and if we are in the mix in January, may invest in a half season card. I did League 1 in the 80’s & 90’s and I don’t wish to repeat it, certainly not every other week. The saddest part is the club has totally brought this upon themselves with one mistake after another.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 30, 2024 7:42:19 GMT 1
Long road back for the board from here. Its been such a tough watch for so long. I've had a season ticket for 30 years and I think this is probably the point where I give it up. I don't live close so when I buy one I always accept that I will miss a few. Was all set to go yesterday and my lad turned around and said he didn't want to go. Asked why and he said "because its boring and we never win". Now obviously that's not true but it did make me wonder how many young fans are losing their enthusiasm for the club? When you look at those stats that were posted last week and see that we are one of the worst for GD, goals conceded and games lost in the last few years is it any wonder young fans (the next generation) are turning away?
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Post by deo1 on Mar 30, 2024 8:52:06 GMT 1
After watching that dross yesterday added to the inept performances over the last 2 years I can’t see how town can up the prices for next season regardless of what division we are in. It will be a very dangerous game the club plays if they do go up quite a bit and they revert back to the different pricing for each stand. Over the last 8/9 years we’ve built up a regular fanbase which we’ve not seen for years and I’m hoping the club don’t go and throw this all away for a few more pounds in the bank.
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