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Post by utttrooper on Jun 4, 2024 19:08:06 GMT 1
It isn't that bad really given renewals haven't finished yet, and new fans haven't had chance to buy yet. Yeah it's probably going to end up less than last season, but that isn't really a shock given how shit last season was and given we got relegated. I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount |
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Post by boon1984 on Jun 4, 2024 19:15:31 GMT 1
We sold just over 15k in 2016/17. Given many always wait til the very last minute and the new season card holders who can't buy until after Friday, I think its a great effort so far and expect the home stands to be at least as full as they were last season. It was about £179 that season too if memory serves. So cheaper than this time. But still think its dissapointing figures and thought wed get to about 15,000 when alls said and done, reckon it'll be more likely 12,000 now. If those 2016 season cards were on sale today, the equivalent price would be £237.35, presuming a rise in line with average CPI. So only a *bit* cheaper then than now. Though I appreciate our minds don’t work like that. |
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Post by space hardware on Jun 4, 2024 22:47:12 GMT 1
10k is decent, given how utterly rank last season was
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jun 5, 2024 5:12:22 GMT 1
It isn't that bad really given renewals haven't finished yet, and new fans haven't had chance to buy yet. Yeah it's probably going to end up less than last season, but that isn't really a shock given how shit last season was and given we got relegated. I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Definitely Bolton, maybe Charlton and Reading too. |
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Post by irverino on Jun 5, 2024 7:43:25 GMT 1
I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Definitely Bolton, maybe Charlton and Reading too. With half the grounds in league one having a capacity of 10k or under then I think we will be in the top six at the very least, nothing to stop the club exceeding the low price offer during the Euros (day after final?) when many could change their minds watching a hopefully successful England team, with the price freeze on U18's right up to the 1st home game I expect we could get close to 15k mark.......Brum haven't put SC's on sale yet so lets see how they sell with such short odds to go up, could struggle with any price increase? |
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Post by detox on Jun 5, 2024 11:27:32 GMT 1
Does that include companies that might buy batches of tickets, those that aren't sponsoring and thus getting batches foc.?
Not sure how it works tbh, but last season and the season before a good chunk of sc holders never attended games..
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jun 5, 2024 11:52:16 GMT 1
It isn't that bad really given renewals haven't finished yet, and new fans haven't had chance to buy yet. Yeah it's probably going to end up less than last season, but that isn't really a shock given how shit last season was and given we got relegated. I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Boss is a Bolton fan and said they had 16k season ticket holders last year. Barnsley would probably have around 10k, Blackpool and Charlton? Brum probably more and Rotherham a similar amount as well. So yeah I'd imagine we might be around top 6 for attendances at a guess, unless that number goes up significantly by the start of the season. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 5, 2024 11:59:16 GMT 1
I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Definitely Bolton, maybe Charlton and Reading too. Bolton have shifted 15,300 in their early bird phase ( they also sell to new buyers during it for an increased price of about £40) . Adult renewal prices were £249 - £319 depending on the stand. The early bird has finished so adult prices have now gone up to £359 -£479 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 5, 2024 12:41:13 GMT 1
10,000 is disappointing. Going to be sparse next season in home end. The club have just posted they're nearly at last seasons total renewals with two days remaining. I don't think new SC holders can buy yet either? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 5, 2024 13:48:47 GMT 1
I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Boss is a Bolton fan and said they had 16k season ticket holders last year. Barnsley would probably have around 10k, Blackpool and Charlton? Brum probably more and Rotherham a similar amount as well. So yeah I'd imagine we might be around top 6 for attendances at a guess, unless that number goes up significantly by the start of the season. We'll be comfortably top 3 for attendances next season. Only Bolton and Birmingham will average more. Charlton averaged 13481 last season. Barnsley averaged 12730 Blackpool averaged 10667 Rotherham averaged 10674 If the season goes well we'll have plenty of walk up punters. Think we'll average 16k minimum. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Jun 5, 2024 17:31:20 GMT 1
10,000, oh dear, oh dear i believe that the Chickens have sold far more than that. Maybe the Leeds fans singing were right, "were a Town full of Leeds fans" plenty of Man Utd in Huddersfield.
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 5, 2024 18:06:55 GMT 1
10,000, oh dear, oh dear i believe that the Chickens have sold far more than that. Maybe the Leeds fans singing were right, "were a Town full of Leeds fans" plenty of Man Utd in Huddersfield. I'd heard that Bradford haven't sold a single season ticket in League 1 or above for at least 5 years? |
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Post by stevvy on Jun 5, 2024 18:28:52 GMT 1
10,000, oh dear, oh dear i believe that the Chickens have sold far more than that. Maybe the Leeds fans singing were right, "were a Town full of Leeds fans" plenty of Man Utd in Huddersfield. Yes, I agree, 10000 renewals (ie no new SC holders) with cheap prices after relegation before the exclusive renewal period has ended is terrible. We should have had at least 12500 renewals after 7 hours of being on sale 🙄 |
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Post by conman on Jun 5, 2024 20:43:40 GMT 1
Getting our's Friday . Probably same as a few others I'd imagine..
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Post by schindlersmissed on Jun 5, 2024 20:45:50 GMT 1
It isn't that bad really given renewals haven't finished yet, and new fans haven't had chance to buy yet. Yeah it's probably going to end up less than last season, but that isn't really a shock given how shit last season was and given we got relegated. I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Bolton will get more |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 5, 2024 21:25:13 GMT 1
I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Bolton will get more They were averaging over 20k last season which is impressive |
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Post by BlueValour on Jun 5, 2024 21:27:46 GMT 1
I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Bolton will get more Before getting our metaphorical knickers in a twist perhaps we should wait and see what the final SC sales are? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 5, 2024 21:58:10 GMT 1
I'd also like to know which teams other than Birmingham would get anywhere near this amount Bolton will get more They had sold 11k with 5 days of their 'early bird' offer remaining. www.bwfc.co.uk/news/over-11000-early-bird-season-tickets-soldNot sure what their figure is now? Looks like theirs went on sale slightly before ours so it's hard to gauge, but, we've sold a similar number with 2 days of our 'early bird' offer still to go. They averaged over 23k last season, which is a good few thousand more than we'll average this season, although they do offer roughly twice as many away tickets as we do. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 5, 2024 22:20:51 GMT 1
They had sold 11k with 5 days of their 'early bird' offer remaining. www.bwfc.co.uk/news/over-11000-early-bird-season-tickets-soldNot sure what their figure is now? Looks like theirs went on sale slightly before ours so it's hard to gauge, but, we've sold a similar number with 2 days of our 'early bird' offer still to go. They averaged over 23k last season, which is a good few thousand more than we'll average this season, although they do offer roughly twice as many away tickets as we do. Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship |
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 5, 2024 23:14:47 GMT 1
They had sold 11k with 5 days of their 'early bird' offer remaining. www.bwfc.co.uk/news/over-11000-early-bird-season-tickets-soldNot sure what their figure is now? Looks like theirs went on sale slightly before ours so it's hard to gauge, but, we've sold a similar number with 2 days of our 'early bird' offer still to go. They averaged over 23k last season, which is a good few thousand more than we'll average this season, although they do offer roughly twice as many away tickets as we do. Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship How many Championship clubs sold out? Was it more than two? |
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Post by duncfost01 on Jun 6, 2024 8:13:49 GMT 1
The figure of over £10k is fantastic. However, in league one aren’t the FFP rules different ? Isn’t the amount you can spend reliant on income ?
So low season ticket prices means less money to spend ?
I guess that’s why Rudoni is £10million to help make up that short fall.
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Post by irverino on Jun 6, 2024 8:21:32 GMT 1
Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship How many Championship clubs sold out? Was it more than two? About half of our opponents sold out the away allocation & about half of those would have filled the whole of the south stand.......Some of the away followings will be sparse next season, do we want a low key opener (Exeter) or a full house one (Wrexham)? |
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Post by Lovechops on Jun 6, 2024 8:25:36 GMT 1
The figure of over £10k is fantastic. However, in league one aren’t the FFP rules different ? Isn’t the amount you can spend reliant on income ? So low season ticket prices means less money to spend ? I guess that’s why Rudoni is £10million to help make up that short fall. Clubs in the League 1 and League 2 operate within a Spending Constraint framework termed Salary Cost Management Protocol (SMCP). SCMP limits spending on player wages to a percentage of club Turnover. In League 1 clubs can spend a maximum of 60% of their turnover on wages - in League 2, the limit is 55%. There are no restrictions (in themselves) on the amount a club can lose or spend on transfer fees. I think it’s higher for 1st year relegation I’ve got 75% in my head but may be wrong |
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Post by dugnet on Jun 6, 2024 8:32:52 GMT 1
Has anyone considered the release of the 10 000 number might just be marketing shtick? Get to the deadline and thank considerably more for their support and remind people who are considering buying they have a further 2 weeks at the lower price.
If we start to win games of football more people will come and watch - thus was it ever.
If you wanted to be downbeat you could point to any loss of fan numbers as the most damning negative legacy of our time in the Premier League. That said it's time to build a new legacy, that's Mr Nagle's opportunity to embrace.
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Post by benhomly on Jun 6, 2024 8:36:33 GMT 1
How many Championship clubs sold out? Was it more than two? About half of our opponents sold out the away allocation & about half of those would have filled the whole of the south stand.......Some of the away followings will be sparse next season, do we want a low key opener (Exeter) or a full house one (Wrexham)? The only way I would want the nauseous Wrexham bandwagon to roll into town on the opening day would be if we battered them 4 or 5 nil. In the absence of that I'd rather have them well into the season when hopefully some of the wheels have fallen off and the media has lost a bit of interest. |
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Post by irverino on Jun 6, 2024 8:51:15 GMT 1
About half of our opponents sold out the away allocation & about half of those would have filled the whole of the south stand.......Some of the away followings will be sparse next season, do we want a low key opener (Exeter) or a full house one (Wrexham)? The only way I would want the nauseous Wrexham bandwagon to roll into town on the opening day would be if we battered them 4 or 5 nil. In the absence of that I'd rather have them well into the season when hopefully some of the wheels have fallen off and the media has lost a bit of interest. You would expect it more likely to be Brady v R & M at St Andrews for the tv people if the EFL were to concoct a high viewer opener........Exeter at home then Wrexham away, worked for Town the last time we did automatic promotion, although both ended 1-1. |
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Post by benhomly on Jun 6, 2024 8:52:47 GMT 1
The only way I would want the nauseous Wrexham bandwagon to roll into town on the opening day would be if we battered them 4 or 5 nil. In the absence of that I'd rather have them well into the season when hopefully some of the wheels have fallen off and the media has lost a bit of interest. You would expect it more likely to be Brady v R & M at St Andrews for the tv people if the EFL were to concoct a high viewer opener........Exeter at home then Wrexham away, worked for Town the last time we did automatic promotion, although both ended 1-1. Exeter away on the opening day would be a great weekender |
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Post by townarentbest on Jun 6, 2024 9:13:57 GMT 1
How many Championship clubs sold out? Was it more than two? & about half of those would have filled the whole of the south stand.......Some of the away followings will be sparse next season, do we want a low key opener (Exeter) or a full house one (Wrexham)? I think that is a huge over estimation, and a quick glance at the Youtube highlights of last season confirms as such. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 6, 2024 9:16:23 GMT 1
They had sold 11k with 5 days of their 'early bird' offer remaining. www.bwfc.co.uk/news/over-11000-early-bird-season-tickets-soldNot sure what their figure is now? Looks like theirs went on sale slightly before ours so it's hard to gauge, but, we've sold a similar number with 2 days of our 'early bird' offer still to go. They averaged over 23k last season, which is a good few thousand more than we'll average this season, although they do offer roughly twice as many away tickets as we do. Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship Or we build a decent and competitive side, maintain it for once and fill the ground with our own fans? We've shown it can be done. |
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Post by irverino on Jun 6, 2024 9:41:56 GMT 1
About half of our opponents sold out the away allocation & about half of those would have filled the whole of the south stand.......Some of the away followings will be sparse next season, do we want a low key opener (Exeter) or a full house one (Wrexham)? I think that is a huge over estimation, and a quick glance at the Youtube highlights of last season confirms as such. Leicester, Ipswich, Saints, Rotherham, Blackburn, Boro, Lids, Wendies, Brum, Sunderland, Hull, Coventry, (WBA & Norwich)?.......Stoke & PNE were night games, who you would expect to sell out on a Saturday fixture. |
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