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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 6, 2024 10:10:16 GMT 1
Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship Or we build a decent and competitive side, maintain it for once and fill the ground with our own fans? We've shown it can be done. Exactly. It’s defeatist to suggest we should provide away supporters with extra capacity. As has been shown in our recent past, when the team is challenging at the top end of the league, the ground will fill - hopefully very soon. |
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Post by ben1987 on Jun 6, 2024 10:22:20 GMT 1
10,000, oh dear, oh dear i believe that the Chickens have sold far more than that. Maybe the Leeds fans singing were right, "were a Town full of Leeds fans" plenty of Man Utd in Huddersfield. Manningham give tickets away in happy meals, they’re also an utterly irrelevant football club. |
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Post by Orinoco on Jun 6, 2024 10:35:55 GMT 1
10,000, oh dear, oh dear i believe that the Chickens have sold far more than that. Maybe the Leeds fans singing were right, "were a Town full of Leeds fans" plenty of Man Utd in Huddersfield. Manningham give tickets away in happy meals, they’re also an utterly irrelevant football club. They are same price as ours this season!! |
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Post by hd9terrier on Jun 6, 2024 10:36:10 GMT 1
They had sold 11k with 5 days of their 'early bird' offer remaining. www.bwfc.co.uk/news/over-11000-early-bird-season-tickets-soldNot sure what their figure is now? Looks like theirs went on sale slightly before ours so it's hard to gauge, but, we've sold a similar number with 2 days of our 'early bird' offer still to go. They averaged over 23k last season, which is a good few thousand more than we'll average this season, although they do offer roughly twice as many away tickets as we do. Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship Couldn’t disagree more. That’s a backwards, can’t compete mindset. And it’s a complete myth we can’t compete in the championship. We’ve moved on from the Hoyle mindset. Home games were awful before they split the south stand If anything 2300/24000 right behind the goal is too much of an advantage as it is. I’d shove away fans to the side. The idea is we come back up and build a team that can compete, maybe actually win some games, something we’ve been incapable of 10 out the past 12 seasons. Then the rest of the 22,000 home seats WILL be filled with Town fans. There is a bigger picture. |
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Post by Sio on Jun 6, 2024 11:25:38 GMT 1
Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship Couldn’t disagree more. That’s a backwards, can’t compete mindset. And it’s a complete myth we can’t compete in the championship. We’ve moved on from the Hoyle mindset. Home games were awful before they split the south stand If anything 2300/24000 right behind the goal is too much of an advantage as it is. I’d shove away fans to the side. The idea is we come back up and build a team that can compete, maybe actually win some games, something we’ve been incapable of 10 out the past 12 seasons. Then the rest of the 22,000 home seats WILL be filled with Town fans. There is a bigger picture. Spot on. Also, how big of a difference does a thousand or two extra away fans every couple of months even make? Would be such a daft move and as you say, it carries over from the small time mindset that we've had for the past twenty years. Should be planning to fill our ground with 22k home fans in a few years time. |
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Jun 6, 2024 11:29:39 GMT 1
Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship Couldn’t disagree more. That’s a backwards, can’t compete mindset. And it’s a complete myth we can’t compete in the championship. We’ve moved on from the Hoyle mindset. Home games were awful before they split the south stand If anything 2300/24000 right behind the goal is too much of an advantage as it is. I’d shove away fans to the side. The idea is we come back up and build a team that can compete, maybe actually win some games, something we’ve been incapable of 10 out the past 12 seasons. Then the rest of the 22,000 home seats WILL be filled with Town fans. There is a bigger picture. The work & persistence that went into getting home fans in the South stand was & still is the right move. We've got someone now with true ambition running the club & if they give us entertaining football Town fans will fill it. |
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Post by Sio on Jun 6, 2024 12:27:27 GMT 1
Couldn’t disagree more. That’s a backwards, can’t compete mindset. And it’s a complete myth we can’t compete in the championship. We’ve moved on from the Hoyle mindset. Home games were awful before they split the south stand If anything 2300/24000 right behind the goal is too much of an advantage as it is. I’d shove away fans to the side. The idea is we come back up and build a team that can compete, maybe actually win some games, something we’ve been incapable of 10 out the past 12 seasons. Then the rest of the 22,000 home seats WILL be filled with Town fans. There is a bigger picture. The work & persistence that went into getting home fans in the South stand was & still is the right move. We've got someone now with true ambition running the club & if they give us entertaining football Town fans will fill it. To be fair I think the original suggestion from MDB is to find space in another stand for away fans e.g. half of Riverside Lower, rather than removing Town fans from the SS. However, we can fill the stadium ourselves under the right circumstances and that should be the primary concern. |
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Post by bluebeard on Jun 6, 2024 18:22:53 GMT 1
Some clubs will only bring 150-200 fans while maybe 2/3 will sell their allocation and i don't include Wrexham in that, i am sick of hearing about them if they are some kind of great club from the past. They will struggle in this league and then i wonder if their money men will splash out.
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Post by Dan on Jun 6, 2024 18:58:58 GMT 1
Some clubs will only bring 150-200 fans while maybe 2/3 will sell their allocation and i don't include Wrexham in that, i am sick of hearing about them if they are some kind of great club from the past. They will struggle in this league and then i wonder if their money men will splash out. Wrexham will sell their allocation |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Jun 6, 2024 20:57:24 GMT 1
Some clubs will only bring 150-200 fans while maybe 2/3 will sell their allocation and i don't include Wrexham in that, i am sick of hearing about them if they are some kind of great club from the past. They will struggle in this league and then i wonder if their money men will splash out. Wrexham will sell their allocation Why will Wrexham sell their allocation, what happens if they are doing crap and we play them at home on a Tuesday night in February. |
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Post by twyford on Jun 6, 2024 21:42:56 GMT 1
Wrexham will sell their allocation Why will Wrexham sell their allocation, what happens if they are doing crap and we play them at home on a Tuesday night in February. Wrexham had an average away attendance of 1,544 for the 2023/24 season - the highest in L2. The total amount of travellers for the club was 35,506, the highest was 2,863 while the lowest 800. No guarantees, but we will be one of their nearest away fixtures so I'd anticipate a decent turnout even in the scenario you highlight. Edit: meant to mention, it remains to be seen what the extended tv coverage will do for travelling support and indeed home fans |
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Post by schindlersmissed on Jun 6, 2024 21:47:18 GMT 1
Why will Wrexham sell their allocation, what happens if they are doing crap and we play them at home on a Tuesday night in February. Wrexham had an average away attendance of 1,544 for the 2023/24 season - the highest in L2. The total amount of travellers for the club was 35,506, the highest was 2,863 while the lowest 800. No guarantees, but we will be one of their nearest away fixtures so I'd anticipate a decent turnout even in the scenario you highlight. Edit: meant to mention, it remains to be seen what the extended tv coverage will do for travelling support and indeed home fans Will maybe depend how early in the season we play them. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Jun 7, 2024 18:14:33 GMT 1
Wrexham will find it tough in this division and their away support will reflect that. There are plenty of clubs that are far nearer to Wrexham than Huddersfield, Burton, Stockport, Shrewsbury, Blackpool, Wigan, Crewe, Mansfield, Bolton and then the likes of Birmingham, Rotherham and Barnsley are roughly the same distance away as us so i wouldn't say we are one of their nearest fixtures.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 7, 2024 18:16:56 GMT 1
Wrexham will find it tough in this division and their away support will reflect that. There are plenty of clubs that are far nearer to Wrexham than Huddersfield, Burton, Stockport, Shrewsbury, Blackpool, Wigan, Crewe, Mansfield, Bolton and then the likes of Birmingham, Rotherham and Barnsley are roughly the same distance away as us so i wouldn't say we are one of their nearest fixtures. Yeah but everyone wants to see their side play at former Premier League table toppers Huddersfield |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Jun 7, 2024 18:25:42 GMT 1
Wrexham will find it tough in this division and their away support will reflect that. There are plenty of clubs that are far nearer to Wrexham than Huddersfield, Burton, Stockport, Shrewsbury, Blackpool, Wigan, Crewe, Mansfield, Bolton and then the likes of Birmingham, Rotherham and Barnsley are roughly the same distance away as us so i wouldn't say we are one of their nearest fixtures. Yeah but everyone wants to see their side play at former Premier League table toppers Huddersfield That is true and they will all be trying their hardest to beat us. |
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Post by conman on Jun 8, 2024 1:58:03 GMT 1
Went down for our season cards yesterday morning (Friday) . The guy serving us said they'd just passed 11,000 Thursday evening , so 12,000 should definitely be on after Friday I should imagine . As we were walking away , and old couple were making their way to get theirs "Another bloody season of shite" he muttered , cheque book in hand 🤣🤣
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jun 8, 2024 7:47:12 GMT 1
If it is 12000 based on renewals alone then that's cracking work by the club and kudos to the fans.
12000 x £250 = £3m
8000 x £350 = £2.8m
For what it's worth, I don't think we would have reached 8k renewals of they'd hiked the price to £350.
Then there's the unquantifiable effect of having a fuller stadium and better atmosphere.
Good work all round 👏
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Post by bogart on Jun 8, 2024 9:55:02 GMT 1
Went down for our season cards yesterday morning (Friday) . The guy serving us said they'd just passed 11,000 Thursday evening , so 12,000 should definitely be on after Friday I should imagine . As we were walking away , and old couple were making their way to get theirs "Another bloody season of shite" he muttered , cheque book in hand 🤣🤣 A true supporter with vision. |
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Post by araucaria on Jun 8, 2024 10:05:26 GMT 1
Wrexham will find it tough in this division and their away support will reflect that. There are plenty of clubs that are far nearer to Wrexham than Huddersfield, Burton, Stockport, Shrewsbury, Blackpool, Wigan, Crewe, Mansfield, Bolton and then the likes of Birmingham, Rotherham and Barnsley are roughly the same distance away as us so i wouldn't say we are one of their nearest fixtures. Mansfield far nearer to Wrexham than Huddersfield (is to Wrexham)? |
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Post by willo on Jun 8, 2024 10:11:31 GMT 1
Went down for our season cards yesterday morning (Friday) . The guy serving us said they'd just passed 11,000 Thursday evening , so 12,000 should definitely be on after Friday I should imagine . As we were walking away , and old couple were making their way to get theirs "Another bloody season of shite" he muttered , cheque book in hand 🤣🤣 Thought we’d do 10k with a price increase but 12k (or more) with the club having held prices is very good. Many will have renewed on the basis we’re going straight back up, not with the team we came down with we’re not, and I can see folk picking their games if we make a slow start and/or the football isn’t great. At £249, you can afford to miss at least half a dozen games a season though. So assuming we do 12k, around 4/5k not renewing? Probably about what was expected. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 8, 2024 10:24:36 GMT 1
Wrexham will find it tough in this division and their away support will reflect that. There are plenty of clubs that are far nearer to Wrexham than Huddersfield, Burton, Stockport, Shrewsbury, Blackpool, Wigan, Crewe, Mansfield, Bolton and then the likes of Birmingham, Rotherham and Barnsley are roughly the same distance away as us so i wouldn't say we are one of their nearest fixtures. Mansfield far nearer to Wrexham than Huddersfield (is to Wrexham)? Huddersfield to Wrexham is 80 miles. Mansfield to Wrexham is 90 miles. Much quicker journey from Huddersfield aswell. |
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Post by Dan on Jun 8, 2024 11:06:34 GMT 1
Went down for our season cards yesterday morning (Friday) . The guy serving us said they'd just passed 11,000 Thursday evening , so 12,000 should definitely be on after Friday I should imagine . As we were walking away , and old couple were making their way to get theirs "Another bloody season of shite" he muttered , cheque book in hand 🤣🤣 Thought we’d do 10k with a price increase but 12k (or more) with the club having held prices is very good. Many will have renewed on the basis we’re going straight back up, not with the team we came down with we’re not, and I can see folk picking their games if we make a slow start and/or the football isn’t great. At £249, you can afford to miss at least half a dozen games a season though. So assuming we do 12k, around 4/5k not renewing? Probably about what was expected. Think someone on here worked out that last seasons total was around 15000-15500. So maybe closer to 3000 not renewing. 11-12,000 renewals is really encouraging. Could get another 1,000 or so on general sale I'd have thought. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 8, 2024 11:36:57 GMT 1
our lass has just told me that season tickets at Farsley Celtic (a team between Bradford & Leeds in the National League North) will be £230, we really don't know how lucky we are & I just hope that whatever division we are in for 25/26, people will have to accept that there has to be a significant price rise.
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Post by boooothy on Jun 8, 2024 11:56:24 GMT 1
They had sold 11k with 5 days of their 'early bird' offer remaining. www.bwfc.co.uk/news/over-11000-early-bird-season-tickets-soldNot sure what their figure is now? Looks like theirs went on sale slightly before ours so it's hard to gauge, but, we've sold a similar number with 2 days of our 'early bird' offer still to go. They averaged over 23k last season, which is a good few thousand more than we'll average this season, although they do offer roughly twice as many away tickets as we do. Once we have control of the ground, we need to figure out a way of offering bigger allocations to away fans. It's going to mean upsetting Town fans in some area of the ground but the extra revenue is needed. Next season there will be a few teams who would bring more than 2000 if it was possible (dependent upon how well their season is going at that time) Bolton Birmingham Barnsley Rotherham Wrexham Stockport Blackpool Becomes even more of a topic for conversation in the championship This is just common sense. We will never ever ever fill the ground with folk paying say 30 quid a game, we just won’t. If 4,5,6 Thousand folk want to give us 30 each it’s absolute madness to turn it down. The comments are just another example of Town fans wanting their cake and eating it. Cheap tickets, the best seats, no away fans and to win the league spending someone else’s dosh. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 8, 2024 12:03:46 GMT 1
Why should we bend over backwards for away fans?
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jun 8, 2024 12:10:49 GMT 1
Wrexham will find it tough in this division and their away support will reflect that. There are plenty of clubs that are far nearer to Wrexham than Huddersfield, Burton, Stockport, Shrewsbury, Blackpool, Wigan, Crewe, Mansfield, Bolton and then the likes of Birmingham, Rotherham and Barnsley are roughly the same distance away as us so i wouldn't say we are one of their nearest fixtures. Yeah but everyone wants to see their side play at former Premier League table toppers Huddersfield I hope enough of them remember the bucket collections at Town, when Wrexham were very much in the shit with their finances/ownership. |
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Post by boooothy on Jun 8, 2024 15:02:34 GMT 1
Why should we bend over backwards for away fans? IF we are saying money from gates has to go up (that’s a different debate) but if that is the case someone has to pay it. That could be me, someone in the upper tier, someone in the boxes or some Leeds, Sheffield fan. I’d rather it wasn’t me. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 8, 2024 15:09:53 GMT 1
Why should we bend over backwards for away fans? IF we are saying money from gates has to go up (that’s a different debate) but if that is the case someone has to pay it. That could be me, someone in the upper tier, someone in the boxes or some Leeds, Sheffield fan. I’d rather it wasn’t me. I'd rather the commercial director do their job, to be honest. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jun 8, 2024 17:15:05 GMT 1
Yeah but everyone wants to see their side play at former Premier League table toppers Huddersfield I hope enough of them remember the bucket collections at Town, when Wrexham were very much in the shit with their finances/ownership. I forgot about that and remember contributing at the time as we had been through the same a few years before. How times change. |
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Post by Sio on Jun 9, 2024 15:14:39 GMT 1
If it is 12000 based on renewals alone then that's cracking work by the club and kudos to the fans. 12000 x £250 = £3m 8000 x £350 = £2.8m For what it's worth, I don't think we would have reached 8k renewals of they'd hiked the price to £350. Then there's the unquantifiable effect of having a fuller stadium and better atmosphere. Good work all round 👏 Also quantifiable in more footfall at the megastore, bigger customer-base for food and drink. Makes so much sense trying to fill the ground. |
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