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Post by hd9terrier on Aug 12, 2024 22:51:03 GMT 1
It was about 16000 sold last season. So we are about 2k down. Im 99.9% Rambo said at the Sheffield United friendly that we had sold more SCs this season than last season. If there was only 14k SCs last season then they’ve completely made up the ‘attendance’ figures for least season. Always thought it was 16k, then 2k haven’t renewed this season. |
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Post by townarentbest on Aug 12, 2024 23:06:43 GMT 1
Im 99.9% Rambo said at the Sheffield United friendly that we had sold more SCs this season than last season. If there was only 14k SCs last season then they’ve completely made up the ‘attendance’ figures for least season. Always thought it was 16k, then 2k haven’t renewed this season. Thst can't be right, some fans are saying numbers have hardly dropped with relegation and we need to increase the price 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 13, 2024 8:39:20 GMT 1
People need to start getting their heads around things now if they think they'll only be paying £25 more for season tickets next season, whether we are promoted or not. We've had great prices, in comparison to the vast majority of football fans, but we can't expect that to continue. Bradford are knackered cos their tickets have been so cheap for far too long, the only thing their owner can hope for is promotion otherwise increases will decimate their crowd - there might only be 53,000 in for home games. Our prices will undoubtedly go up next season, so some folk ought to start readying themselves for it now. . Bradfords are 249 like ours this season and dropped 3k I do believe? Does that happen though? Crowds continue to go up the more games Sky broadcast. Lots more championship games on TV now than there used to be and that division has just become the SECOND best supported division in the world, bettered only by the PL, and beaten all records for the English 2nd tier even those post war boom times. The coverage of L1 and L2 has also increased a lot and crowds there are way up aswell. Looks at the crowds this weekend just gone. Anyone with Sky sports (or a mate with sky sports) could have stayed home and watched it for free but clubs were getting crowds theyd have thought incredible only a few years ago. Then theres things like IFollow and clubs' own TV stations showing games. To me the evidence actually suggests the opposite, and the more football is on TV, it acts as an advertisement and persuades more people to actually get to live games. |
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Post by ldr on Aug 13, 2024 8:51:21 GMT 1
To be honest mate I think with this new SKY rule the game regime, will be a big dip in the amount of season tickets sold at all clubs whatever price they are. Bradfords are 249 like ours this season and dropped 3k I do believe? Does that happen though? Crowds continue to go up the more games Sky broadcast. Lots more championship games on TV now than there used to be and that division has just become the SECOND best supported division in the world, bettered only by the PL, and beaten all records for the English 2nd tier even those post war boom times. The coverage of L1 and L2 has also increased a lot and crowds there are way up aswell. Looks at the crowds this weekend just gone. Anyone with Sky sports (or a mate with sky sports) could have stayed home and watched it for free but clubs were getting crowds theyd have thought incredible only a few years ago. Then theres things like IFollow and clubs' own TV stations showing games. To me the evidence actually suggests the opposite, and the more football is on TV, it acts as an advertisement and persuades more people to actually get to live games. I don’t understand the way that correlation works other than to say the live experience pisses all over watching on TV. I find it really hard to watch a full game on TV nowadays. |
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Post by simontrevittsears on Aug 13, 2024 11:14:07 GMT 1
That's not bad considering weve been relegated...and still some buying time yet for anyone waiting to see how we start the season. A small price rise might have put a few people off, but I dont think it would have been many at all. If youre not put off by relegation then are you going to be put off by it costing an extra £50? When you know it's still a bargain? And of course they could have kept it the same price in for example the North stand lower for those who wont pay any more. I would not have renewed with a £1 price rise after relegation. And wouldn't have moved to the North Stand Lower to avoid that price. Its not "a bargain", its the personal value associated with the product, and the product has devalued with relegation and actually is further devalued with the increase in accessibility on TV. For me as an individual, we're right on the limit of what I value a League 1 football season at. Hopefully we get promoted at first attempt, and there's not that many more who value it similarly to me, otherwise prices will be going up next season, crowds will be down and we'll be having the struggle of trying to get out of League 1 with reduced backing in a big empty stadium and lower available playing budget. Championship in 25/26? up to £275 I'd be buying without question, beyond that I'd have a few questions to ask myself, and anything £300 or above would see me taking advantage of most games being available on TV. YES...I paid more than this historically, football isn't as "important" to me now, its value has decreased (and has decreased further with the new TV deal). Another question - how many MORE people would have purchased with a £50 rise? 🤭😆 The answer is obvious. And thats what makes it difficult for the club and what would have made any decision to increase after a relegation frankly ludicrous. Enough of this incessant arguing over season ticket prices, does anyone know if play off games count as league games or not?  |
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Post by irverino on Aug 14, 2024 10:56:06 GMT 1
Not sure how many SC will have been sold since the price went up but I'm guessing not a lot, if so why don't they just drop the prices back to what everybody else has paid for the 48 hours before the Stevenage game......The feel good factor is high at the moment & quite a few could well have changed their minds & jump at the chance to renew, possibly a few new fans too.
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Post by hd9terrier on Aug 14, 2024 12:01:07 GMT 1
Not sure how many SC will have been sold since the price went up but I'm guessing not a lot, if so why don't they just drop the prices back to what everybody else has paid for the 48 hours before the Stevenage game......The feel good factor is high at the moment & quite a few could well have changed their minds & jump at the chance to renew, possibly a few new fans too. I get that but I don’t think it’s really fair that new sc holders pay the same as fans that have been going years. Although they actually did offer the same prices for 2 weeks after renewals ended. I suspect if we’re doing well by January and the early signs are looking promising, we’ll have a big uptake on half season cards. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 14, 2024 12:08:34 GMT 1
Not sure how many SC will have been sold since the price went up but I'm guessing not a lot, if so why don't they just drop the prices back to what everybody else has paid for the 48 hours before the Stevenage game......The feel good factor is high at the moment & quite a few could well have changed their minds & jump at the chance to renew, possibly a few new fans too. I get that but I don’t think it’s really fair that new sc holders pay the same as fans that have been going years. Although they actually did offer the same prices for 2 weeks after renewals ended. I suspect if we’re doing well by January and the early signs are looking promising, we’ll have a big uptake on half season cards. Unfortunately that’s how you incentivise new subscribers. Remember all the TV deals that Sky used to offer to new subscribers & weren’t available to existing customers? I think the sums of money are also negligible, if we’ve sold the 15k or so tickets already, what’s the potential volume of newbies? I doubt it’ll be more than 500, x that by the £50 extra and it’s a gross revenue uplift of £25k. And how many of those people buying season on season would actually begrudge people getting the same price? It wouldn’t bother me personally, bigger crowds means a better atmosphere normally. |
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Post by hd9terrier on Aug 14, 2024 12:54:35 GMT 1
I get that but I don’t think it’s really fair that new sc holders pay the same as fans that have been going years. Although they actually did offer the same prices for 2 weeks after renewals ended. I suspect if we’re doing well by January and the early signs are looking promising, we’ll have a big uptake on half season cards. Unfortunately that’s how you incentivise new subscribers. Remember all the TV deals that Sky used to offer to new subscribers & weren’t available to existing customers? I think the sums of money are also negligible, if we’ve sold the 15k or so tickets already, what’s the potential volume of newbies? I doubt it’ll be more than 500, x that by the £50 extra and it’s a gross revenue uplift of £25k. And how many of those people buying season on season would actually begrudge people getting the same price? It wouldn’t bother me personally, bigger crowds means a better atmosphere normally. If there was massive demand they’d probably consider it. But in fairness they gave everyone the chance at 249. If we keep winning we’ll get a few that will on pay on the day quite regularly up until half season cards and they’ll end up paying more overall than the cost of the increased season ticket price. |
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Post by willo on Aug 15, 2024 1:21:37 GMT 1
We didn’t renew this time round for several reasons but I shall take in the odd game and take the opportunity to sit in a few different places. If we’re top 6 by Christmas, I’ll likely get myself a half year season card which gets me to next summer. I reckon then, always assuming we get promoted, the price of a season card could quite easily increase by £100 which may put a few off and we may get a chance to get somewhere close to our previous seats back. Many were expecting +£50 this time around so the club did well to hold the price but it’ll be different for the 25/26 season.
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Post by captainblack on Aug 15, 2024 7:55:44 GMT 1
We didn’t renew this time round for several reasons but I shall take in the odd game and take the opportunity to sit in a few different places. If we’re top 6 by Christmas, I’ll likely get myself a half year season card which gets me to next summer. I reckon then, always assuming we get promoted, the price of a season card could quite easily increase by £100 which may put a few off and we may get a chance to get somewhere close to our previous seats back. Many were expecting +£50 this time around so the club did well to hold the price but it’ll be different for the 25/26 season. I lost my seat during the covid fiasco, I have bought a season ticket this time around and although not sitting quite where I wanted, the seats seem fine. Its important to sit just where you want , though the middle sections of the riverside lower were all taken, bar a few single seats (I needed two together as I wanted to sit with my brother).I agree with you on the pricing , Its more than likely they will rise next season which will put some supporters off. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 15, 2024 11:55:19 GMT 1
Whether we go up or not, the prices are going to increase next season. Think thats a given and the club should announce it now so everyone's in the loop.
Id expect some kind of varying price rises depending on where the seat is.
Maybe going up between £25 and £75 depending on the view, but with another price rise to come in year or two, to get it more towards what is normal for whatever division we're in at that time.
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Post by willo on Aug 15, 2024 12:48:11 GMT 1
Whether we go up or not, the prices are going to increase next season. Think thats a given and the club should announce it now so everyone's in the loop. Id expect some kind of varying price rises depending on where the seat is. Maybe going up between £25 and £75 depending on the view, but with another price rise to come in year or two, to get it more towards what is normal for whatever division we're in at that time. I would not be surprised if to renew our old seats in the Riverside Lower will be at the £400 mark in 2 years time. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 15, 2024 13:01:26 GMT 1
Whether we go up or not, the prices are going to increase next season. Think thats a given and the club should announce it now so everyone's in the loop. Id expect some kind of varying price rises depending on where the seat is. Maybe going up between £25 and £75 depending on the view, but with another price rise to come in year or two, to get it more towards what is normal for whatever division we're in at that time. I would not be surprised if to renew our old seats in the Riverside Lower will be at the £400 mark in 2 years time. Looking at all the empty seats from the Sacramento game this morning I would think the last thing the owner needs is another sparsely filled stadium, a long way to go before we start talking how much next season will cost when we are still trying to sell this years seats......If the revenue from advertising is subject to the numbers who will see it then we need to fill it. |
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Post by soapystevens on Aug 16, 2024 17:18:53 GMT 1
If we have sold 14,000 season tickets this is less than our neighbours from Valley Parade, but i have been told they always give 4/500 free tickets to school kids but i don't know if this is true or not.
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Post by irverino on Aug 18, 2024 12:44:27 GMT 1
Forgot to take the new cards with the names changed yesterday but fortunately had the others originally sent all in my name & they worked still.....Same barcode on them so keep as spares & no need to cut them up.
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Post by artysid on Aug 18, 2024 13:11:45 GMT 1
Forgot to take the new cards with the names changed yesterday but fortunately had the others originally sent all in my name & they worked still.....Same barcode on them so keep as spares & no need to cut them up. How does that work? Forgot to take the cards I should take but remembered to take the cards I don't need to take. Wonder if you could use both set of cards for the same game? |
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Post by irverino on Aug 18, 2024 13:22:43 GMT 1
Forgot to take the new cards with the names changed yesterday but fortunately had the others originally sent all in my name & they worked still.....Same barcode on them so keep as spares & no need to cut them up. How does that work? Forgot to take the cards I should take but remembered to take the cards I don't need to take. Wonder if you could use both set of cards for the same game? I put the 1st ones in my wallet a month ago, the others came last week & forgot about swapping them over, but the same barcodes are on the duplicates they just changed the name......I suspect the barcode will probably only work once per game. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 18, 2024 17:51:46 GMT 1
Forgot to take the new cards with the names changed yesterday but fortunately had the others originally sent all in my name & they worked still.....Same barcode on them so keep as spares & no need to cut them up. How does that work? Forgot to take the cards I should take but remembered to take the cards I don't need to take. Wonder if you could use both set of cards for the same game?
I have all 4 of my family's season tickets on my phone but each one of us keeps their own card. Last season one of my boys was making his own way to the game, I swiped our remaining 3 on my phone at the turnstiles & we went to our seats. Just before ko my son called me from the turnstiles as they were saying his card was already used for the game. I had to go down to show them my phone, I guess the U23 ticket swiped was his & not his brothers. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 18, 2024 17:57:54 GMT 1
Anyone else still waiting to receive replacement cards?
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Post by prestonrues1 on Aug 18, 2024 18:00:33 GMT 1
When I used my ST on my phone on Saturday the chap in the kiosk asked me if I’d used it once already I hadn’t but was a bit taken back .
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Post by bluebeard on Aug 18, 2024 18:20:49 GMT 1
Excellent crowd yesterday of 18,500 so how many season tickets have we sold, personally i would say its more than last season some how. 25,000 at Bolton today but 4,000 of them will have been Boyo's but still a good crowd for this league.
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Post by irverino on Aug 18, 2024 19:01:55 GMT 1
Excellent crowd yesterday of 18,500 so how many season tickets have we sold, personally i would say its more than last season some how. 25,000 at Bolton today but 4,000 of them will have been Boyo's but still a good crowd for this league. They upped Wrexham allocation to 3700 (initial 2200) last week, half the lower tier had Bolton fans......25,957 (3668 WFC), not a bad payday with all over 18 tickets £25-30 Cat A price. |
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Post by captainblack on Aug 19, 2024 9:45:44 GMT 1
Sat in my new seats in the Riverside lower on Saturday and
the seats are excellent, many thanks to KN and the team
for allowing the price to be kept the same for that 2 week
amnesty for purchasers of new season tickets. £249 for the
season is an absolute bargain, and I will be happy to pay more
if the prices are raised next season.
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Post by irverino on Aug 19, 2024 10:47:39 GMT 1
One of teams I watch when I go to Spain is Malaga FC, 23/24 season they were relegated to the third tier after a poor season & a lot feared for them at the beginning of last season, after a stuttered & inconsistent campaign they ended in the play offs which they won with last kick of extra time in the 2nd leg final.
Back in La Liga 2 they have just announced record season ticket sales of 26,550 with a 7000 waiting list, hopefully somehow I can blag a seat in La Rosaleda (holds 30k) on my next visit but its amazing how many fans have reappeared overnight again......Yes I know it happens at Town too.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 19, 2024 11:00:52 GMT 1
One of teams I watch when I go to Spain is Malaga FC, 23/24 season they were relegated to the third tier after a poor season & a lot feared for them at the beginning of last season, after a stuttered & inconsistent campaign they ended in the play offs which they won with last kick of extra time in the 2nd leg final. Back in La Liga 2 they have just announced record season ticket sales of 26,550 with a 7000 waiting list, hopefully somehow I can blag a seat in La Rosaleda (holds 30k) on my next visit but its amazing how many fans have reappeared overnight again......Yes I know it happens at Town too. How much do they charge over there for a season card in the 2nd tier? |
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Post by irverino on Aug 19, 2024 11:17:37 GMT 1
One of teams I watch when I go to Spain is Malaga FC, 23/24 season they were relegated to the third tier after a poor season & a lot feared for them at the beginning of last season, after a stuttered & inconsistent campaign they ended in the play offs which they won with last kick of extra time in the 2nd leg final. Back in La Liga 2 they have just announced record season ticket sales of 26,550 with a 7000 waiting list, hopefully somehow I can blag a seat in La Rosaleda (holds 30k) on my next visit but its amazing how many fans have reappeared overnight again......Yes I know it happens at Town too. How much do they charge over there for a season card in the 2nd tier? A match ticket last season was around 20 euros via local supporters clubs in Benalmadena.....I will let you know if its gone up & ask about SC prices too. |
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Post by ldr on Aug 19, 2024 11:41:34 GMT 1
How much do they charge over there for a season card in the 2nd tier? A match ticket last season was around 20 euros via local supporters clubs in Benalmadena.....I will let you know if its gone up & ask about SC prices too. I’m down in Malaga when they play Albacete on the 31/8. Might try and get a ticket. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 19, 2024 12:08:02 GMT 1
How much do they charge over there for a season card in the 2nd tier? A match ticket last season was around 20 euros via local supporters clubs in Benalmadena.....I will let you know if its gone up & ask about SC prices too. Malaga FC 24/24 Renewals/New applicant ( ); Over 25yo, (10 seat zones) from 140eu (175) up to 280eu (350), 15-25yo, from 110eu (140) up to 225eu (280) 14/under, 40eu (60)......Pretty reasonable prices & probably why in such high demand. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 19, 2024 12:16:55 GMT 1
Yeah quite cheap arent they, compared to the Uk anyway. Renewal price is similar to ours.
They were very cheap in the 3rd tier last season. Im guessing the Spanish 3rd tier is largely semi pro clubs and B teams?
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