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Post by townarentbest on Feb 24, 2024 1:00:19 GMT 1
Derby in League 1 (albeit they could go up this season) have just released their next season’s season ticket prices. Just thought I’d stick them on here to enhance the debate/discussion…  I don't really understand that, does that mean the longer you have a season ticket the more you pay? Edit, ignore me I had a brain fart In your defence it’s a REALLY INCOMPETENT way of labelling the chart aligning the key with the three columns that it’s not in any way associated with. |
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Post by conman on Feb 24, 2024 3:04:21 GMT 1
If it rose to £400 I'd be happy . Most working folk these days can afford that . Maybe a slight reduction for students and young kids . With a further 50% off that price for the 65 and over categories . The older end have suffered many years of misery and I feel £200 would be a nice gesture..
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Post by rockwall on Feb 24, 2024 9:09:36 GMT 1
If it rose to £400 I'd be happy . Most working folk these days can afford that . Maybe a slight reduction for students and young kids . With a further 50% off that price for the 65 and over categories . The older end have suffered many years of misery and I feel £200 would be a nice gesture.. Most working folk? Speak for yourself. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 24, 2024 10:08:44 GMT 1
If it rose to £400 I'd be happy . Most working folk these days can afford that . Maybe a slight reduction for students and young kids . With a further 50% off that price for the 65 and over categories . The older end have suffered many years of misery and I feel £200 would be a nice gesture.. I, too, am fortunate enough to have enough wool on my back to be able to afford £400. But there have been many years, over the last 49 as a season ticket holder, where I have been grateful for the reasonable (and sometimes cheap) prices. Without them I wouldn't have been able to commit to a ticket. I am certain there are thousands of folks who are now in the position I was then. Therefore I say, a rise from £249 to £400 is far too much. |
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Post by benhomly on Feb 24, 2024 10:19:13 GMT 1
If it rose to £400 I'd be happy . Most working folk these days can afford that . Maybe a slight reduction for students and young kids . With a further 50% off that price for the 65 and over categories . The older end have suffered many years of misery and I feel £200 would be a nice gesture.. I would agree with that apart from the over 65 bit. It always used to be over 60 in which case they should revert to that. In which case I would then qualify  |
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Post by Fish & Chips on Feb 24, 2024 11:09:37 GMT 1
Seems that far too many people are out of touch with reality, the cost of living is brutal for many people.
We need our ground packed to the rafters. Extra revenue can be generated from optional purchases by those with deeper pockets on the improved match day offerings, beer, food, etc.
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Feb 24, 2024 11:14:59 GMT 1
How many season tickets did we sell this season?
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Post by irverino on Feb 24, 2024 11:24:05 GMT 1
Seems that far too many people are out of touch with reality, the cost of living is brutal for many people. We need our ground packed to the rafters. Extra revenue can be generated from optional purchases by those with deeper pockets on the improved match day offerings, beer, food, etc. Agree, some of the concourses at other grounds you can get food/drink in the half time period without missing any action, on some they have merchandise stalls (similar to concerts) & if they don't have what you want the option to collect at HT/FT or posted to your address.......Machines to buy match/raffle tickets (beer/betting) etc, question is do we have enough space to do it? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 24, 2024 11:42:22 GMT 1
Seems that far too many people are out of touch with reality, the cost of living is brutal for many people. We need our ground packed to the rafters. Extra revenue can be generated from optional purchases by those with deeper pockets on the improved match day offerings, beer, food, etc. The reality is that whilst it might be for some people, for the vast majority it isnt that brutal. Another reality is that some 'cost of living' pain is elevating now such as fuel and energy costs but in the meantime weve also had record wage growth over recent times. Those wages won't be going down as the cost if living crisis lessons. In terms of HTFC the reality is competing at championship level is extremely expensive and as fans we have to contribute to that if we want to be successful. We dont have the right to just expect one individual to pay for it for us like its his duty. So the idea we should charge half the going rate because a very small amount of people cant afford any more isnt really viable or fair to that individual IMO. Hopefully the club will be able to offer some option that is affordable to those who are finding it difficult that means they can still attend games. |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Feb 24, 2024 11:50:49 GMT 1
Seems that far too many people are out of touch with reality, the cost of living is brutal for many people. We need our ground packed to the rafters. Extra revenue can be generated from optional purchases by those with deeper pockets on the improved match day offerings, beer, food, etc. The reality is that whilst it might be for some people, for the vast majority it isnt that brutal. Another reality is that some 'cost of living' pain is elevating now such as fuel and energy costs but in the meantime weve also had record wage growth over recent times. Those wages won't be going down as the cost if living crisis lessons. In terms of HTFC the reality is competing at championship level is extremely expensive and as fans we have to contribute to that if we want to be successful. We dont have the right to just expect one individual to pay for it for us like its his duty. So the idea we should charge half the going rate because a very small amount of people cant afford any more isnt really viable or fair to that individual IMO. Hopefully the club will be able to offer some option that is affordable to those who are finding it difficult that means they can still attend games. So let’s just not bother about “some people” they won’t buy/renew - bollocks to them eh? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 24, 2024 12:17:04 GMT 1
The reality is that whilst it might be for some people, for the vast majority it isnt that brutal. Another reality is that some 'cost of living' pain is elevating now such as fuel and energy costs but in the meantime weve also had record wage growth over recent times. Those wages won't be going down as the cost if living crisis lessons. In terms of HTFC the reality is competing at championship level is extremely expensive and as fans we have to contribute to that if we want to be successful. We dont have the right to just expect one individual to pay for it for us like its his duty. So the idea we should charge half the going rate because a very small amount of people cant afford any more isnt really viable or fair to that individual IMO. Hopefully the club will be able to offer some option that is affordable to those who are finding it difficult that means they can still attend games. So let’s just not bother about “some people” they won’t buy/renew - bollocks to them eh? Its a business.🤔 Cant quite see why HTFC should be continually offering their support discounted season cards when virtually all our competitors dont?? You will have to enlighten me. I have 4 adult season cards and appreciate any and all discounts or lower charges, but it cant just keep going on and on. |
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Post by Fish & Chips on Feb 24, 2024 12:28:19 GMT 1
Seems that far too many people are out of touch with reality, the cost of living is brutal for many people. We need our ground packed to the rafters. Extra revenue can be generated from optional purchases by those with deeper pockets on the improved match day offerings, beer, food, etc. The reality is that whilst it might be for some people, for the vast majority it isnt that brutal. Another reality is that some 'cost of living' pain is elevating now such as fuel and energy costs but in the meantime weve also had record wage growth over recent times. Those wages won't be going down as the cost if living crisis lessons. In terms of HTFC the reality is competing at championship level is extremely expensive and as fans we have to contribute to that if we want to be successful. We dont have the right to just expect one individual to pay for it for us like its his duty. So the idea we should charge half the going rate because a very small amount of people cant afford any more isnt really viable or fair to that individual IMO. Hopefully the club will be able to offer some option that is affordable to those who are finding it difficult that means they can still attend games. “cost if living crisis lessens” (sic) Surely you realise that if inflation drops, for example, in simple terms, from 8% to 4% that prices have gone up 8% plus another 4%. Nothing has come down unless there’s actual negative % deflation. People on fixed incomes or below the rate of inflation are having less, if any, spare income. Whilst a business, Town is also a community asset and it needs to consider its whole fan base, current and potential new fans. It will become richer in the longer term by building loyalty instead of gouging fans like most other clubs seem to do. Those that have deeper pockets can surely spend more on their “fan experience”. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 24, 2024 12:35:52 GMT 1
The reality is that whilst it might be for some people, for the vast majority it isnt that brutal. Another reality is that some 'cost of living' pain is elevating now such as fuel and energy costs but in the meantime weve also had record wage growth over recent times. Those wages won't be going down as the cost if living crisis lessons. In terms of HTFC the reality is competing at championship level is extremely expensive and as fans we have to contribute to that if we want to be successful. We dont have the right to just expect one individual to pay for it for us like its his duty. So the idea we should charge half the going rate because a very small amount of people cant afford any more isnt really viable or fair to that individual IMO. Hopefully the club will be able to offer some option that is affordable to those who are finding it difficult that means they can still attend games. So let’s just not bother about “some people” they won’t buy/renew - bollocks to them eh? You didnt read the last line then? Hopefully the club will find a way to help those who are struggling financially to still be able to go. No one wants to see anyone priced out. But the club isnt a charity...its ab business. You dont set youre entire pricing policy around accommodating the very poorest ..it's just not realistic. |
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Post by Big Ern on Feb 24, 2024 12:37:21 GMT 1
The reality is that whilst it might be for some people, for the vast majority it isnt that brutal. Another reality is that some 'cost of living' pain is elevating now such as fuel and energy costs but in the meantime weve also had record wage growth over recent times. Those wages won't be going down as the cost if living crisis lessons. In terms of HTFC the reality is competing at championship level is extremely expensive and as fans we have to contribute to that if we want to be successful. We dont have the right to just expect one individual to pay for it for us like its his duty. So the idea we should charge half the going rate because a very small amount of people cant afford any more isnt really viable or fair to that individual IMO. Hopefully the club will be able to offer some option that is affordable to those who are finding it difficult that means they can still attend games. “cost if living crisis lessens” (sic) Surely you realise that if inflation drops, for example, in simple terms, from 8% to 4% that prices have gone up 8% plus another 4%. Nothing has come down unless there’s actual negative % deflation. People on fixed incomes or below the rate of inflation are having less, if any, spare income. Whilst a business, Town is also a community asset and it needs to consider its whole fan base, current and potential new fans. It will become richer in the longer term by building loyalty instead of gouging fans like most other clubs seem to do. Those that have deeper pockets can surely spend more on their “fan experience”. The thing is, nobody is making any money out of the club by us increasing ticket prices. Its not like KN will suddenly be 2 million quid richer. Its additional revenue needed to stave of FFP. I get that some fans can't afford it but there needs to be a happy medium. If they can't afford it then offer options to spread payments etc as has already been discussed. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 24, 2024 12:38:25 GMT 1
The reality is that whilst it might be for some people, for the vast majority it isnt that brutal. Another reality is that some 'cost of living' pain is elevating now such as fuel and energy costs but in the meantime weve also had record wage growth over recent times. Those wages won't be going down as the cost if living crisis lessons. In terms of HTFC the reality is competing at championship level is extremely expensive and as fans we have to contribute to that if we want to be successful. We dont have the right to just expect one individual to pay for it for us like its his duty. So the idea we should charge half the going rate because a very small amount of people cant afford any more isnt really viable or fair to that individual IMO. Hopefully the club will be able to offer some option that is affordable to those who are finding it difficult that means they can still attend games. “cost if living crisis lessens” (sic) Surely you realise that if inflation drops, for example, in simple terms, from 8% to 4% that prices have gone up 8% plus another 4%. Nothing has come down unless there’s actual negative % deflation. People on fixed incomes or below the rate of inflation are having less, if any, spare income. Whilst a business, Town is also a community asset and it needs to consider its whole fan base, current and potential new fans. It will become richer in the longer term by building loyalty instead of gouging fans like most other clubs seem to do. Those that have deeper pockets can surely spend more on their “fan experience”. Yes it lessons. It was only on the news yesterday about how heating bills in homes will be reducing by a few hundred pounds this year. Prices at the pumps are considerably less than they were a year ago. So yes some things do come down..wages arent one of them though. |
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Post by htafcokay on Feb 24, 2024 12:38:55 GMT 1
Why was FFP never mentioned before Nagle arrived?
And wasn't it debunked pretty quickly that the lack of spending at the start of this season was bugger all to do with FFP?
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Post by King Neil on Feb 24, 2024 12:58:42 GMT 1
Why was FFP never mentioned before Nagle arrived? And wasn't it debunked pretty quickly that the lack of spending at the start of this season was bugger all to do with FFP? He probably wasn't hooked at that point imo Now he is the cash is flowing |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 24, 2024 13:04:01 GMT 1
“cost if living crisis lessens” (sic) Surely you realise that if inflation drops, for example, in simple terms, from 8% to 4% that prices have gone up 8% plus another 4%. Nothing has come down unless there’s actual negative % deflation. People on fixed incomes or below the rate of inflation are having less, if any, spare income. Whilst a business, Town is also a community asset and it needs to consider its whole fan base, current and potential new fans. It will become richer in the longer term by building loyalty instead of gouging fans like most other clubs seem to do. Those that have deeper pockets can surely spend more on their “fan experience”. Yes it lessons. It was only on the news yesterday about how heating bills in homes will be reducing by a few hundred pounds this year. Prices at the pumps are considerably less than they were a year ago. So yes some things do come down..wages arent one of them though. Maybe best to take this one over onto the other board Slapps. I think you have a rose tinted view of the world. I’d agree that you and I might not have been massively impacted, but I doubt you or I have ever had to rely on sticking the modern day equivalent of a shilling in the meter… |
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Post by htafcokay on Feb 24, 2024 13:09:23 GMT 1
Why was FFP never mentioned before Nagle arrived? And wasn't it debunked pretty quickly that the lack of spending at the start of this season was bugger all to do with FFP? He probably wasn't hooked at that point imo Now he is the cash is flowing It was under Rubery as well. Let's see what happens over the next couple of years. It's been a shitshow so far, but hopefully he's rescued it with this appointment. |
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Post by King Neil on Feb 24, 2024 13:19:56 GMT 1
He probably wasn't hooked at that point imo Now he is the cash is flowing It was under Rubery as well. Let's see what happens over the next couple of years. It's been a shitshow so far, but hopefully he's rescued it with this appointment. Yeah..I've given kev tons of stick in the past,,but he seems to be keeping his word and he certainly doesn't belittle our club..quite the opposite |
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Post by conman on Feb 24, 2024 13:24:19 GMT 1
If it rose to £400 I'd be happy . Most working folk these days can afford that . Maybe a slight reduction for students and young kids . With a further 50% off that price for the 65 and over categories . The older end have suffered many years of misery and I feel £200 would be a nice gesture.. I would agree with that apart from the over 65 bit. It always used to be over 60 in which case they should revert to that. In which case I would then qualify Both my wife and I have season tickets . I work full time , my wife part time . We can afford them and probably most of the people I know who have them earn quite a bit more than us , so no problem for them . If they did jump up to £400 I'd probably grumble but still buy one . The wife would say no way but still buy one eventually . It's all part of a day out for us , pre match drinks , go to the match , meet friends , drinks after , probably have a meal . It's something we both look forward to and enjoy , and I honestly couldn't imagine missing out on it all . The 65 and over bit was a tad tongue in cheek by the way , I'm 65 in April.. UTFT |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Feb 24, 2024 13:52:01 GMT 1
So let’s just not bother about “some people” they won’t buy/renew - bollocks to them eh? You didnt read the last line then? Hopefully the club will find a way to help those who are struggling financially to still be able to go. No one wants to see anyone priced out. But the club isnt a charity...its ab business. You dont set youre entire pricing policy around accommodating the very poorest ..it's just not realistic. There is a way- don’t increase prices too much. How much extra income will we get if we increase prices by 20% - negligible in the grand scheme of things due to less being sold. Furthermore the ground will be less full and some fans will miss out as they just won’t be able to justify the extra expense. |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Feb 24, 2024 13:53:24 GMT 1
So let’s just not bother about “some people” they won’t buy/renew - bollocks to them eh? Its a business.🤔 Cant quite see why HTFC should be continually offering their support discounted season cards when virtually all our competitors dont?? You will have to enlighten me. I have 4 adult season cards and appreciate any and all discounts or lower charges, but it cant just keep going on and on. Who cares what others are charging? Look at Preston’s and Blackburn gates - thousands less than us. Do we want that? |
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Post by utttrooper on Feb 24, 2024 14:01:50 GMT 1
£300 would be fair because that's what it was before the cost of living crisis and we seem to be past the worst of it. However loyalty bonuses would be a great idea and keep the younger fan tickets very cheap because they are the future of the club and it's very important to keep the influx of them going. Also some sort of tiered pricing might be a good idea such as lower prices for the big red stand lower and higher for the seats for the posh twats
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Post by Captainslapper on Feb 24, 2024 16:16:48 GMT 1
Yes it lessons. It was only on the news yesterday about how heating bills in homes will be reducing by a few hundred pounds this year. Prices at the pumps are considerably less than they were a year ago. So yes some things do come down..wages arent one of them though. Maybe best to take this one over onto the other board Slapps. I think you have a rose tinted view of the world. I’d agree that you and I might not have been massively impacted, but I doubt you or I have ever had to rely on sticking the modern day equivalent of a shilling in the meter… Its relevant on this thread if we're talking about the cost of living making any price increase the wrong thing to do. You dont need to have rose tinted specs on to know food, fuel and heating costs have and are still falling from the highs they were at , or that weve simultaniously been having record wage increases that won't be falling...those are just facts whatever glasses you've got on. But I understand a relatively small amount of people will still find any price rises for SCs towards a more 'normal' amount a genuine difficulty...I just dont think you can set your entire pricing policy around catering for them. But if the club can do something, then hopefully they will. |
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Post by gst146 on Feb 24, 2024 19:06:08 GMT 1
I’m bored of hearing how expensive other clubs pricing is. Their prices aren’t the going rate, they’re overpriced. Dont complicate, we all watch the same game in the same stadium breathing the same air. 1 category, 1 affordable price. Not a penny over £300. |
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Post by gst146 on Feb 24, 2024 19:21:06 GMT 1
I wonder if I can pose a question: I think there is a general acceptance that the price will increase next season. There is also a groundswell that we have been fortunate in what we have been required to pay in relation to other clubs. Forgetting the actual price for a ticket what do you expect from the club in return (noting that there can be no guarantee of success on the pitch no matter how well the intentions)? eg: I expect to pay £xx but in return I would like (as a suggestion) Regular communication about the planning and direction of the club - reflecting on the development and performance of the 1st team Planned Q&A, both virtual and physical with key decision makers at the club (Where possible) improved facilities at the stadium and fan engagement (ie similar to what was on offer when Canalside was open to us) We can all wish for a successful team, that is the priority, but in the years immediately before the Wagner intervention we were better considered and catered for. At that time DH and Sean Jarvis knew the value of including supporters and how that could be leveraged to attract other money to the club through sponsorship. For many people what they pay for is what they see on the pitch but for many others we are invested in the club, who runs it, the decisions taken, the vision and the ambitions. Setting a target which offers a level of inclusiveness and communication is something of value not just to season ticket holders but to those attended on a game to game basis. Season Ticket holders could additionally benefit if the Legends Bar (although that is too small) was available as was Canalside in the past. There needs to be something that offers more than just access to the stadium on match days. Create an experience that engages fans and look to offer incentives to those who commit to supporting the club each game through buying their season card. This could be created with relatively low outlay but generate additional revenue through merchandise and hospitality (at all levels). The club needs to consider the offer in the round, accepting that some folk just want to attend the game. |
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Post by yappledapple on Mar 14, 2024 23:33:23 GMT 1
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Post by ambryboy on Mar 14, 2024 23:36:38 GMT 1
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Post by willo on Mar 15, 2024 2:04:06 GMT 1
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