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Post by ilsonterrier on Mar 31, 2024 21:18:08 GMT 1
My opinion too. I know it's a road and, in theory, the cars have priority. But when there are so many people crossing that road you've got to be so careful. It's like driving past a school at kicking out time. The cars might have priority but you still have to be watching out for everyone. Funnily enough, as we left the ground yesterday I commented to my son about the fact that they let the Bradley Mills car park empty straightaway but they hold the St Andrews one back. I know that the volume of pedestrians is greater at the other end but it seems an accident waiting to happen. (I know, in this case, the driver hadn't come from the club car park.) Recent changes to the Highway code change that; pedestrians already in the road have right of way/priority now. Although cars are also supposed to (but don't) stop (where safe to do so) when there's pedestrians waiting at a junction; it's not just on crossings anymore. Not that anyone ever pays much attention to the HC once they've passed their tests. I must admit, I thought that rule only applied at junctions or controlled crossings. Either way, you'd have to be mad to not slow down when there's someone crossing, knowing that you're more than likely going to hit them. And you'd think you'd be taking extra care when there are large numbers crossing a road like that. |
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Post by Jello Biafra on Mar 31, 2024 22:51:06 GMT 1
It’s the same story going back up Hillhouse Lane at the side of the Yorkshire Rose too. Loads of cars coming from Bradford Road come through way too fast, with a ‘fuck you’ face on the drivers, making folk jump out of the way.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Mar 31, 2024 23:02:25 GMT 1
To be fair, that's the only way to Dalton from the Leeds Road area aside from a huge detour up Wakefield Road or on Dalton Bank Road via Colnbridge, so they won't make it one way. No they won’t. But it’s been a ridiculous road for years and I’ve lost count the amount of times it comes up in conversation in relation to football games. The road isn’t made for 2 cars wide, it’s made for horse and cart. Even on a normal day it’s shit, I drive a van and I’m always hoping there isn’t another van or big car in opposite direction. Not for my sake, I don’t like making people anxious and if I’m coming downhill I can see cars nervously slowing down next the that ridiculous bit of fencing stopping cars plummeting down the banking. I still don’t know how no one has gone off there yet. That is the only thing that will change the current road system, someone dying. The road should be one way or traffic lights. It’s tough shit if it means going another route and it’s also tough if it means waiting at lights. And it shouldn’t even be open on match days, they close it when gigs are on. Bang on |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 31, 2024 23:21:38 GMT 1
I was there!!! It wasn’t me.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 1, 2024 10:51:01 GMT 1
Recent changes to the Highway code change that; pedestrians already in the road have right of way/priority now. Although cars are also supposed to (but don't) stop (where safe to do so) when there's pedestrians waiting at a junction; it's not just on crossings anymore. Not that anyone ever pays much attention to the HC once they've passed their tests. I must admit, I thought that rule only applied at junctions or controlled crossings. Either way, you'd have to be mad to not slow down when there's someone crossing, knowing that you're more than likely going to hit them. And you'd think you'd be taking extra care when there are large numbers crossing a road like that. Not sure many drivers picked up on the new parts of the Road Traffic Act, where a driver will be held responsible for a collision with a pedestrian, unless there are extrodinary circumstances.. He was in the road, wont cut it etc..🤔 |
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Post by Polish Hippy on Apr 1, 2024 13:53:34 GMT 1
I must admit, I thought that rule only applied at junctions or controlled crossings. Either way, you'd have to be mad to not slow down when there's someone crossing, knowing that you're more than likely going to hit them. And you'd think you'd be taking extra care when there are large numbers crossing a road like that. Not sure many drivers picked up on the new parts of the Road Traffic Act, where a driver will be held responsible for a collision with a pedestrian, unless there are extrodinary circumstances.. He was in the road, wont cut it etc..🤔 Yup. Even those idiots that walk around with earbuds in listening to music and step out into the road without looking it’s our responsibility to do their thinking for them. |
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Post by cyberman on Apr 1, 2024 14:20:19 GMT 1
I have only just seen this thread. Thanks for those who were worried about me. I was taken to HRI and examined and x rayed . Not too much damage fortunately . I clearly am not as agile as I once was as I thought I had time to cross the road and assumed the driver would slow down. The car caught its wing mirror on my arm as it passed. The next minute I’m on the floor! The man has admitted common assault and been given a Conditional Caution . He has to attend a course on violence and do 2 days unpaid work. I hope he agreed to buy you a match day ticket as well and a pint. Unpaid work should be shovelling horse shit from one steaming pile to another - 8hrs hard graft on the hoteest day of the year - 30 mins break allowed only Anger management course - hmmmm - a fcking good slap would probably mean more to him and it sounds as though there would be plenty of volunteers Glad you are on the mend - |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 1, 2024 16:10:42 GMT 1
Imo the club should have paid for improvements to that road 20 years ago alongside council.. should’ve been a planning condition. It could have a system similar to Woodhouse hill Road going up to Deighton/chestnut centre- priority to those going up the hill.
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Post by Wingman on Apr 1, 2024 17:30:30 GMT 1
I have only just seen this thread. Thanks for those who were worried about me. I was taken to HRI and examined and x rayed . Not too much damage fortunately . I clearly am not as agile as I once was as I thought I had time to cross the road and assumed the driver would slow down. The car caught its wing mirror on my arm as it passed. The next minute I’m on the floor! The man has admitted common assault and been given a Conditional Caution . He has to attend a course on violence and do 2 days unpaid work. Good to hear you're OK johncoddington5, hope the recovery is swift. 2 days unpaid work and a conditional caution for what could have been a highly different outcome seems lenient. |
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Post by johncoddington5 on Apr 1, 2024 20:18:45 GMT 1
I have only just seen this thread. Thanks for those who were worried about me. I was taken to HRI and examined and x rayed . Not too much damage fortunately . I clearly am not as agile as I once was as I thought I had time to cross the road and assumed the driver would slow down. The car caught its wing mirror on my arm as it passed. The next minute I’m on the floor! The man has admitted common assault and been given a Conditional Caution . He has to attend a course on violence and do 2 days unpaid work. Good to hear you're OK johncoddington5, hope the recovery is swift. 2 days unpaid work and a conditional caution for what could have been a highly different outcome seems lenient. |
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Post by johncoddington5 on Apr 1, 2024 20:22:38 GMT 1
Good to hear you're OK johncoddington5, hope the recovery is swift. 2 days unpaid work and a conditional caution for what could have been a highly different outcome seems lenient. It does seem a strange system when the police investigate, decide an offence has been committed, and then decide punishment. Yes recovering well apart from limping around with “soft tissue” damage to a knee. A win today would have helped! |
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Post by mosher on Apr 4, 2024 8:07:39 GMT 1
Not sure many drivers picked up on the new parts of the Road Traffic Act, where a driver will be held responsible for a collision with a pedestrian, unless there are extrodinary circumstances.. He was in the road, wont cut it etc..🤔 Yup. Even those idiots that walk around with earbuds in listening to music and step out into the road without looking it’s our responsibility to do their thinking for them. That SHOULD (probably be up to the judge in each individual case) come under the extraordinary circumstances. Relying on the judiciary to be sensible though is a bit like expecting Town to win these days  |
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Post by rubicon on Apr 5, 2024 4:33:21 GMT 1
My opinion too. I know it's a road and, in theory, the cars have priority. But when there are so many people crossing that road you've got to be so careful. It's like driving past a school at kicking out time. The cars might have priority but you still have to be watching out for everyone. Funnily enough, as we left the ground yesterday I commented to my son about the fact that they let the Bradley Mills car park empty straightaway but they hold the St Andrews one back. I know that the volume of pedestrians is greater at the other end but it seems an accident waiting to happen. (I know, in this case, the driver hadn't come from the club car park.) Recent changes to the Highway code change that; pedestrians already in the road have right of way/priority now. Although cars are also supposed to (but don't) stop (where safe to do so) when there's pedestrians waiting at a junction; it's not just on crossings anymore. Exactly, but at 71 I still look at any junction, especially behind me. In many cases it's a good job, especially the idiots who give no indication they're turning left into the road I'm about to cross. Seemingly, they don't think indicators are necessary for pedestrians, must think we're all mind readers. Just because there's nothing behind you on your road, it's still bloody common sense to indicate if you can see someone likely to be crossing the junction you're turning into. Sometimes I do find a car stops and waves me across. Always amazes me, and it's been known to lead to an after me, after you situation, both of us waving the other to continue. Hey I'm just old, and used to bloody looking and being sensible. I drive the same, and bloody indicate when turning, no matter what. PS. I walk 15'000 steps a day, so come across plenty of good and bad drivers and pedestrians. The knobheads who walk across the road as if no one can hit them, within 20 yards of a zebra crossing with lights are just as stupid. ( I'll agree I'm pretty sure it's supposedly junctions as far as I know, even so, even hitting the local drunken, coked up idiot crossing anywhere wouldn't be a good idea.) Not that anyone ever pays much attention to the HC once they've passed their tests. |
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Post by mosher on Apr 5, 2024 8:22:46 GMT 1
Recent changes to the Highway code change that; pedestrians already in the road have right of way/priority now. Although cars are also supposed to (but don't) stop (where safe to do so) when there's pedestrians waiting at a junction; it's not just on crossings anymore. Exactly, but at 71 I still look at any junction, especially behind me. In many cases it's a good job, especially the idiots who give no indication they're turning left into the road I'm about to cross. Seemingly, they don't think indicators are necessary for pedestrians, must think we're all mind readers. Just because there's nothing behind you on your road, it's still bloody common sense to indicate if you can see someone likely to be crossing the junction you're turning into. Sometimes I do find a car stops and waves me across. Always amazes me, and it's been known to lead to an after me, after you situation, both of us waving the other to continue. Hey I'm just old, and used to bloody looking and being sensible. I drive the same, and bloody indicate when turning, no matter what. PS. I walk 15'000 steps a day, so come across plenty of good and bad drivers and pedestrians. The knobheads who walk across the road as if no one can hit them, within 20 yards of a zebra crossing with lights are just as stupid. ( I'll agree I'm pretty sure it's supposedly junctions as far as I know, even so, even hitting the local drunken, coked up idiot crossing anywhere wouldn't be a good idea.) Not that anyone ever pays much attention to the HC once they've passed their tests. That whole paragraph (drivers AND Pedestrians) you've typed: I've put pretty much raised every one of those points in the "things that annoy" thread When cars don't indicate I start crossing anyway (even if I THINK they're turning) and when they nearly hit me their rear lights get a kick. Not always a good idea, some drivers are WAY bigger than me, but they're always the ones to back down as if they know they're in the wrong. And the dozy pedestrians you included I think I are just examples of Darwinism, there's just too much Health & Safety in the world nowadays  EDIT: Drivers; your indicators are for ALL road users, not just other drivers Edit2: I agree it always amazes me when someone actually stops and waves me across, I always give a thumbs up, cross, then  thanks too, manners cost nowt. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 5, 2024 9:08:15 GMT 1
I have only just seen this thread. Thanks for those who were worried about me. I was taken to HRI and examined and x rayed . Not too much damage fortunately . I clearly am not as agile as I once was as I thought I had time to cross the road and assumed the driver would slow down. The car caught its wing mirror on my arm as it passed. The next minute I’m on the floor! The man has admitted common assault and been given a Conditional Caution . He has to attend a course on violence and do 2 days unpaid work. Glad you are OK. Not so glad that the culprit appears to have escaped prosecution. Dangerous driving is defined as driving of a standard so far below that of the reasonable driver it would be dangerous. I do not see how this is not dangerous driving, or careless at the very least! It’s not common assault by my book (and I’m pretty well qualified to argue that, if I may say so. Certainly more so than the average Bobby). Not even a point on his licence! Ridiculous. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 5, 2024 9:38:23 GMT 1
Always amazes me that there are so many people who are totally oblivious to the fact that they need to avoid the busy areas around match time on a Saturday.
For example, thousands of people walking to the ground from the Town Centre yet people still think it’s a good time to go shopping at Farmfoods.
Another annoying thing for me is that some people, to avoid walking ( not talking about old and disabled) too far, park as close as possible to the ground yet become frustrated after the game because they can’t make a fast getaway.
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Post by royrace on Apr 5, 2024 10:09:02 GMT 1
That whole paragraph (drivers AND Pedestrians) you've typed: I've put pretty much every one of those points in the "things that annoy" thread When cars don't indicate I start crossing anyway (even if I THINK they're turning) and when they nearly hit me their rear lights get a kick. Not always a good idea, some drivers are WAY bigger than me, but they're always the ones to back down as if they know they're in the wrong. And the dozy pedestrians you included I think I are just examples of Darwinism, there's just too much Health & Safety in the world nowadays EDIT: Drivers; your indicators are for ALL road users, not just other drivers Edit2: I agree it always amazes me when someone actually stops and waves me across, I always give a thumbs up, cross, then thanks too, manners cost nowt. Exactly! The number of lazy fckers who can't be arsed to indicate does my nut in! They then look surprised they you've started to cross and didn't manage to read their minds and predict they were gonna turn off! On the flip side those who try to take advantage of the new highway code and deliberately cross when it's obvious a car is turning into a junction deserve everything they get! I've only had one stupid enough to do it so far! Luckily didn't cause an accident but could easily have done. |
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Post by andyboothscat on Apr 5, 2024 10:22:19 GMT 1
I'm very pleased that the person in question is ok.
I'm not really sure what the Bradley Mills Road side is like after a game as don't go that way but Saint Andrews Road also needs looking at. They close the road which works fine as means of stopping traffic coming out of the stadium car park - yet for some reason they let traffic straight out of the official gasworks car park on too a 'closed road' which causes issues given there is only one exit and it includes everyone trying to get out over a pavement - that's in use by hundreds and hundreds of people.!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 5, 2024 11:24:34 GMT 1
Always amazes me that there are so many people who are totally oblivious to the fact that they need to avoid the busy areas around match time on a Saturday. For example, thousands of people walking to the ground from the Town Centre yet people still think it’s a good time to go shopping at Farmfoods. Another annoying thing for me is that some people, to avoid walking ( not talking about old and disabled) too far, park as close as possible to the ground yet become frustrated after the game because they can’t make a fast getaway. Im not against folk going about their business when games are on, its only football in the end, but knowing there is obviously a game and hundreds plus will be in the area on foot means accepting driving slowly and taking even more care than usual. If you dont wish to do this then stay away in the first instance or fuck off home. The world cannot simply cater for your convenience.. |
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Post by drewden on Apr 5, 2024 13:17:53 GMT 1
My opinion too. I know it's a road and, in theory, the cars have priority. But when there are so many people crossing that road you've got to be so careful. It's like driving past a school at kicking out time. The cars might have priority but you still have to be watching out for everyone. Funnily enough, as we left the ground yesterday I commented to my son about the fact that they let the Bradley Mills car park empty straightaway but they hold the St Andrews one back. I know that the volume of pedestrians is greater at the other end but it seems an accident waiting to happen. (I know, in this case, the driver hadn't come from the club car park.) Recent changes to the Highway code change that; pedestrians already in the road have right of way/priority now. Although cars are also supposed to (but don't) stop (where safe to do so) when there's pedestrians waiting at a junction; it's not just on crossings anymore. Not that anyone ever pays much attention to the HC once they've passed their tests. Jay walking in this country is legal and anything moving on the road has to give way to pedestrians, in 1993 I was crossing a road in Nottingham town centre, a taxi driver mowed me down while crossing a road, and totally smashed my knee in with the bumper, I had been on the lash all day, the taxi driver legged it, but a friend took the name of the taxi, i ended up with a nice pot of money from the court, even though the court knew I had a few pints that day. |
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Post by trotsky on Apr 5, 2024 18:41:10 GMT 1
Recent changes to the Highway code change that; pedestrians already in the road have right of way/priority now. Although cars are also supposed to (but don't) stop (where safe to do so) when there's pedestrians waiting at a junction; it's not just on crossings anymore. Not that anyone ever pays much attention to the HC once they've passed their tests. Jay walking in this country is legal and anything moving on the road has to give way to pedestrians, in 1993 I was crossing a road in Nottingham town centre, a taxi driver mowed me down while crossing a road, and totally smashed my knee in with the bumper, I had been on the lash all day, the taxi driver legged it, but a friend took the name of the taxi, i ended up with a nice pot of money from the court, even though the court knew I had a few pints that day. About ten years ago, a bloke I knew from my local pub stepped out in front of a bus one morning when he was on his way to work. The bus didn't catch him full on but one of them large mirrors smacked him on the head hard enough to break the mirror. The outcome was that he had to pay the bus company for the damaged mirror. Said at the time that he should have told 'em to bugger off but he just said it was his fault for being half asleep and not looking before he crossed the road. |
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