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Post by andyeastleake on Apr 13, 2024 18:02:24 GMT 1
That is a poor poor decision.
Still someway behind the non-handball in the Stockport Vs Palace game in 2001 or the penalties in 2022 though.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Apr 13, 2024 18:04:49 GMT 1
That is a poor poor decision. Still someway behind the non-handball in the Stockport Vs Palace game in 2001 or the penalties in 2022 though. Although potentially still as game changing though? |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Apr 13, 2024 18:05:44 GMT 1
We have nearly finished the season of 46 games and we are trying to find every excuse in the book. If we had a decent enough squad would we really be banging on about a referees decision (Even though I'm of the opinion it wasn't a penalty).
If we had not thrown points away left right and centre throughout the season we would be safe by now.
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Post by griffa on Apr 13, 2024 18:08:10 GMT 1
That's true. However, it doesn't mean that we deserve to be on the receiving end of appalling refereeing. All teams get bad decisions against them though over the season. Obviously it’s gutting to drop 2 points due to an awful decision in the 100th minute, especially with where we are in the table, but we really have no one but to blame if we go down. So it was our fault that the Ref v Preston, awarded a very, very dubious penalty. We've been poor most the season, but we cannot be blamed for such poor refereeing decisions. Regardless of her sex, Rebecca Welch is sub standard referee, she's not good enough - UTT. |
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Post by harris on Apr 13, 2024 18:09:01 GMT 1
I agree, it's not because she is a woman it's because she is shit. You can argue though that despite being utterly useless she is in a position where she is refereeing a championship game and you are well within your rights to question why that is. Do people tend to do that nearly as often with male refs? Or do they just take it as a bad decision? That’s the difference. Remember Jon Moss? |
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Post by bogart on Apr 13, 2024 18:09:05 GMT 1
Diversity, my arse. Would tick all the boxes if black and a lesbian.
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:10:06 GMT 1
Do people tend to do that nearly as often with male refs? Or do they just take it as a bad decision? That’s the difference. Remember Jon Moss? Did he get abuse for being a man? |
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Post by terrierneil on Apr 13, 2024 18:12:00 GMT 1
The fact she is a woman is relevant. No way does a male give all those free kicks for ZERO contact. And the penalty, I'm almost lost for words. A male referee does not give that. And if he does he certainly isn't reffing in the championship.
She doesn't understand the rules and should be nowhere near the football league level.
If that's sexist so be it.
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 13, 2024 18:12:28 GMT 1
Do people tend to do that nearly as often with male refs? Or do they just take it as a bad decision? That’s the difference. No I agree also there are many useless male refs who shouldn't be officiating at any level. That however was one of the worst refereeing decisions I have ever seen. The issue here is she’s been fast tracked to tick boxes. 10 mins added time when 5 mins were out up??  . But week in week out the refs are poor. At least this time it wasn’t of our own making like mid week. Thought we were decent today. Probably deserved the points. Two huge games coming up. Will we get a dubious penalty?? Fingers crossed 😂😂 |
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Post by malcolmbrown on Apr 13, 2024 18:12:41 GMT 1
I see like Jon Moss that she's from county Durham. They don't half produce shit refs up there.
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Post by andyeastleake on Apr 13, 2024 18:13:27 GMT 1
That is a poor poor decision. Still someway behind the non-handball in the Stockport Vs Palace game in 2001 or the penalties in 2022 though. Although potentially still as game changing though? Of course. Just hope nothing similar happens when we play Birmingham at home it's still in our hands. |
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:13:41 GMT 1
The fact she is a woman is relevant. No way does a male give all those free kicks for ZERO contact. And the penalty, I'm almost lost for words. A male referee does not give that. And if he does he certainly isn't reffing in the championship. She doesn't understand the rules and should be nowhere near the football league level. If that's sexist so be it. A male referee gave a penalty for handball outside the box this week? If you think she doesn’t understand football, just because she’s a woman, that is sexist. I hope you don’t have daughters or a wife. |
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Post by Larry David on Apr 13, 2024 18:13:55 GMT 1
Hoe she refs us again as I am getting some signs and placards made
Down with this sort of thing!
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 13, 2024 18:14:10 GMT 1
No I agree also there are many useless male refs who shouldn't be officiating at any level. That however was one of the worst refereeing decisions I have ever seen. The issue here is she’s been fast tracked to tick boxes. 10 mins added time when 5 mins were out up?? . But week in week out the refs are poor. At least this time it wasn’t of our own making like mid week. Thought we were decent today. Probably deserved the points. Two huge games coming up. Will we get a dubious penalty?? Fingers crossed 😂😂 We played really well and I'm sickened for the players, management and supporters. They got a lot of stick Tuesday night and they should rightly be given praise when all that cost us a victory was a diabolical decision. |
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Post by CurlyWurly on Apr 13, 2024 18:15:00 GMT 1
Did he get abuse for being a man? I agree she shouldnt be abused for being a woman Jack. However, people are frustrated because she is a pretty poor referee and is still in the championship. She is refereeing at this level simply because she is a woman. |
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:15:27 GMT 1
Hoe she refs us again as I am getting some signs and placards made Down with this sort of thing! Do you do that when men give us bad decisions? Grow up. |
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Post by harris on Apr 13, 2024 18:15:36 GMT 1
Did he get abuse for being a man? No, because he’s refereeing males in men’s football. |
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Post by Moooooy on Apr 13, 2024 18:16:11 GMT 1
All teams get bad decisions against them though over the season. Obviously it’s gutting to drop 2 points due to an awful decision in the 100th minute, especially with where we are in the table, but we really have no one but to blame if we go down. So it was our fault that the Ref v Preston, awarded a very, very dubious penalty. We've been poor most the season, but we cannot be blamed for such poor refereeing decisions. Regardless of her sex, Rebecca Welch is sub standard referee, she's not good enough - UTT. It’s not our fault but there are tons of other factors that are our fault that put us in this position. Did you see the penalty given against Rotherham against WBA on Wednesday? Or the goal Stoke had disallowed at Swansea? 2 horrendous decisions, and there’s plenty of them every week. Most referees at this level are poor but it’s the same for every team so it’s something we just have to get on with. We need to focus on the things we can control, and the things we can control we’ve been shit at. |
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:17:16 GMT 1
Did he get abuse for being a man? I agree she shouldnt be abused for being a woman Jack. However, people are frustrated because she is a pretty poor referee and is still in the championship. She is refereeing at this level simply because she is a woman. Given she’s been a referee since 2010, how much do you actually know about her career? Do you know what qualifications she has or how much experience she has? You must do if you can claim she’s only there because she’s a woman. I don’t give a shit if people are frustrated this is disgusting? There’s no excuse for sexism. We get shit male referees week in week out, worse referees as well, but they aren’t getting shit on for being a man? |
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Post by cyberman on Apr 13, 2024 18:17:28 GMT 1
We said fuck all when Moss and Tierney shafted us at Wembley. We'll say fuck all now. is that supposed to mean ? - |
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:18:41 GMT 1
Did he get abuse for being a man? No, because he’s refereeing males in men’s football. So him being a man has nothing to do with a bad refereeing performance, but Rebecca Welch being a woman has to do with her giving a bad refereeing performance? Seems a bit of a double standard. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Apr 13, 2024 18:19:31 GMT 1
Walsh has been handed 11 games in the Championship this season, she hasn’t handled any games involving Leicester, Leeds, Ipswich or Southampton , based on info online, really tells you how highly (not) by the powers that be.
Terribly poor performance from the ref today, compounded by a penalty that will live long in the memory of football errors. This ref should not be at this level.
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Post by maxpower on Apr 13, 2024 18:20:56 GMT 1
Culture wars people!
All this abuse confirms that football is inherently sexist. It'll also feed her ego that the she's fighting a battle against the odds for equality in the game against a hoard of sexism and misogynistic attitudes
I bet she probably looks for the controversial decisions to further the narrative despite clearly lacking the ability. Any dissent = sexism
Only place she's going is up the pyramid!
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:21:43 GMT 1
27 points given up from winning positions this season now.
Definitely the referee’s fault we’re getting relegated though 👍
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Post by houllierspal on Apr 13, 2024 18:22:26 GMT 1
Am I correct in thinking that we have now had her 3 times in less than two months, are there no others available?
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Post by nnnlove on Apr 13, 2024 18:22:33 GMT 1
Poor, poor decision - but take a step back, lads. Cool off a bit - people can say some terrible things in the heat of the moment.
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Post by portugalterrier on Apr 13, 2024 18:22:48 GMT 1
Culture wars people! All this abuse confirms that football is inherently sexist. It'll also feed her ego that the she's fighting a battle against the odds for equality in the game against a hoard of sexism and misogynistic attitudes I bet she probably looks for the controversial decisions to further the narrative despite clearly lacking the ability. Any dissent = sexism Only place she's going is up the pyramid! I don’t think she will be going much further ! |
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Post by portugalterrier on Apr 13, 2024 18:25:53 GMT 1
Am I correct in thinking that we have now had her 3 times in less than two months, are there no others available? She was down to do the Stoke v Town game , but we ended up with the fourth official, Jeremy Simpson, match probably clashed with a hair appointment ( only joking) , she’d actually broken one of her finger nails. |
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Post by harris on Apr 13, 2024 18:29:20 GMT 1
No, because he’s refereeing males in men’s football. So him being a man has nothing to do with a bad refereeing performance, but Rebecca Welch being a woman has to do with her giving a bad refereeing performance? Seems a bit of a double standard. I think the fact she’s been thrown into elite men’s football when clearly incompetent, just to tick a box, is horrendous. She’s fucking wank and I put that down to her not being skilled enough to be there because the EFL saw an opportunity to have a female ref. Jon Moss was incompetent because he was a corrupt, overweight tub of lard. If that helps. |
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Post by paderbornterrier on Apr 13, 2024 18:29:34 GMT 1
Totally fucking incompetent... male or female. They would be stood down by the Premier league and now should be stood down by the EFL.... No consolation to Kev and Co. If she costs us our championship status.
Just seems like the stars are aligning for one of those seasons.
The whole sham wants tieing up in litigation well after next season starts. Disgraceful decision letting someone so incompetent ref a game with so much importance. There must have been a dead rubber in some league they could have sent her to.
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