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Post by CurlyWurly on Apr 13, 2024 18:30:00 GMT 1
I agree she shouldnt be abused for being a woman Jack. However, people are frustrated because she is a pretty poor referee and is still in the championship. She is refereeing at this level simply because she is a woman. Given she’s been a referee since 2010, how much do you actually know about her career? Do you know what qualifications she has or how much experience she has? You must do if you can claim she’s only there because she’s a woman. I don’t give a shit if people are frustrated this is disgusting? There’s no excuse for sexism. We get shit male referees week in week out, worse referees as well, but they aren’t getting shit on for being a man? On the 7th of October 2024 she refereed a League 2 game. By the 23rd of December she was in the prem. If you know of any others who've done that please let me know
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Post by bluebeard on Apr 13, 2024 18:31:31 GMT 1
Yet another appalling decision from a clown of a referee. I am lost for words but nothing will be done it never is, the whole set up of modern day football is atrocious. We will look back and say Rotherham cost us and the clown today cost us, but the fact is modern day match officials are mainly appalling and EFL have also a lot to answer for. Modern day football is a joke now and the penalty decision today is up there with one of the worst decisions given against us.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 13, 2024 18:31:35 GMT 1
She’s getting slated for making a disgraceful decision and being an incompetent referee. Sorry but her gender does come into it because we now live in a mad world where people are desperate to show how woke they are. If she was a bloke she wouldn’t be a professional ref nor be in charge of a game like this. It’s the people who have employed her as a professional referee that are ironically sexist. Given I’ve seen tweets suggesting she should hang herself, she should get shot, or she should get a terminal illness, I don’t think male referee’s get nearly that much abuse. What does her being a woman have anything to do with her ability to referee? Do you think that football is so inexcusably complicated that a woman could not understand it? Yet they can become brain surgeons or scientists? If it was a bloke, he wouldn’t be getting sexist abuse. It’s that simple. It has nothing to do with her refereeing a women's game but does she have the ability to physically have a men's pro game & does she have the knowledge of the differences between the men's pro game & a women's, such as speed & physicality?
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 13, 2024 18:34:35 GMT 1
Some people’s real feelings are coming out tonight. Not a good look
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Post by portugalterrier on Apr 13, 2024 18:34:57 GMT 1
Totally fucking incompetent... male or female. They would be stood down by the Premier league and now should be stood down by the EFL.... No consolation to Kev and Co. If she costs us our championship status. Just seems like the stars are aligning for one of those seasons. The whole sham wants tieing up in litigation well after next season starts. Disgraceful decision letting someone so incompetent ref a game with so much importance. There must have been a dead rubber in some league they could have sent her to. They actually do give her dead rubbers, obviously missed the fact this was important to one of the teams.
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Post by markthehorn on Apr 13, 2024 18:36:25 GMT 1
Bristol City fans seem to think she was wonderful and one of the best rather predictability.
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Post by davethesprout on Apr 13, 2024 18:37:53 GMT 1
Some people’s real feelings are coming out tonight. Not a good look Two Sunderland fans shouted abuse @ her and got arrested ! you have to be careful nowadays ,saying that how could she see through Turtons body ?
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:38:23 GMT 1
Given she’s been a referee since 2010, how much do you actually know about her career? Do you know what qualifications she has or how much experience she has? You must do if you can claim she’s only there because she’s a woman. I don’t give a shit if people are frustrated this is disgusting? There’s no excuse for sexism. We get shit male referees week in week out, worse referees as well, but they aren’t getting shit on for being a man? On the 7th of October 2024 she refereed a League 2 game. By the 23rd of December she was in the prem. If you know of any others who've done that please let me know Ben Toner refereed League 2 in October 2023 and then managed our win at Watford in February? Will Finnie refereed Millwall vs Cardiff last week, but refereed League 2 in February? It was actually his first Championship game last week? I thought you’d have known about that since you’re clearly so knowledgeable about referees?
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:39:23 GMT 1
Given I’ve seen tweets suggesting she should hang herself, she should get shot, or she should get a terminal illness, I don’t think male referee’s get nearly that much abuse. What does her being a woman have anything to do with her ability to referee? Do you think that football is so inexcusably complicated that a woman could not understand it? Yet they can become brain surgeons or scientists? If it was a bloke, he wouldn’t be getting sexist abuse. It’s that simple. It has nothing to do with her refereeing a women's game but does she have the ability to physically have a men's pro game & does she have the knowledge of the differences between the men's pro game & a women's, such as speed & physicality? It’s so incredibly different that thank god you’re a man, so you can understand the difference.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 13, 2024 18:40:15 GMT 1
Some people’s real feelings are coming out tonight. Not a good look Two Sunderland fans shouted abouse @ her and got arrested ! you have to be carefull nowadays ,saying that how could she see through Turtons body ? I do think she is shit but you don’t see many threads popping up on he purely based off a referee despite how many of them have done us over
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Apr 13, 2024 18:42:53 GMT 1
Inclusion, diversity bollocks has cost us today
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Post by CurlyWurly on Apr 13, 2024 18:43:52 GMT 1
On the 7th of October 2024 she refereed a League 2 game. By the 23rd of December she was in the prem. If you know of any others who've done that please let me know Ben Toner refereed League 2 in October 2023 and then managed our win at Watford in February? Will Finnie refereed Millwall vs Cardiff last week, but refereed League 2 in February? It was actually his first Championship game last week? I thought you’d have known about that since you’re clearly so knowledgeable about referees? You're talking about the Championship Jack. She's gone from league 2 to the prem in three months. Clearly wasn't good enough for the prem so we've had her twice and she's been the worst we've seen for both matches
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Post by huddshroom on Apr 13, 2024 18:46:38 GMT 1
I hate all this “we’ve only got ourselves to blame blah blah blah”. Yes we do, but it doesn’t fucking help when you get shite decisions like this against you in the 99th minute at the most crucial point in the season. If we go down by a point or 2 of course you can blame this because despite “doing enough” to stay up this cost it. Would have been the same last season if we went down by a point with that Blackpool goal. It’s an absolute disgrace of a decision and a disgrace to play that long. Her being a woman has nothing to do with being a shit ref, we have plenty of them, but she’s not even at their shit standards she’s just been fast tracked. Surely they’re better female refs in the WSL.
I’m not even one to usually blame a ref, it’s a tough job, town have been so bad this season I’ve genuinely stopped caring about the result but this today has got my blood boiling for the first time in years. So thank you Rebecca for bringing my passion for the game back.
I don’t see us winning both of our home games so this effectively relegated us as there’s a 99% chance we get nothing at Ipswich. Hope she stays in the championship next season so we don’t get her in league one.
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:46:48 GMT 1
Ben Toner refereed League 2 in October 2023 and then managed our win at Watford in February? Will Finnie refereed Millwall vs Cardiff last week, but refereed League 2 in February? It was actually his first Championship game last week? I thought you’d have known about that since you’re clearly so knowledgeable about referees? You're talking about the Championship Jack. She's gone from league 2 to the prem in three months. Clearly wasn't good enough for the prem so we've had her twice and she's been the worst we've seen for both matches So it would have been fine if she hadn’t ref’d those men’s games? Do you know anything about how she’s done in games other than ours? Is it possible she could have deserved to ref in the prem?
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 13, 2024 18:47:59 GMT 1
It has nothing to do with her refereeing a women's game but does she have the ability to physically have a men's pro game & does she have the knowledge of the differences between the men's pro game & a women's, such as speed & physicality? It’s so incredibly different that thank god you’re a man, so you can understand the difference. The difference is why the Women's Champions League winners don't play the Men's Champion League winners, or, indeed any Men's professional team. If you can't see the difference between Women's pro football & men's, there's no point in having a discussion with you.
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Post by Macduff on Apr 13, 2024 18:54:03 GMT 1
We should be good enough that crap referee decisions don't hurt us over a season, or at least even themselves out. It's a point which most of us would have taken before the game, it's just been made worse by the results of those around us. If Hoggy had been on the pitch maybe he could have helped Lee with the pen. IIRC Wells put it in the same place as in the playoff final? UTT Not dead yet.
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Post by Fish & Chips on Apr 13, 2024 18:55:12 GMT 1
Inadequately referees promoted too quickly beyond their abilities, VAR, regular rule changes, it’s all ruining our beloved game.
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Post by davethesprout on Apr 13, 2024 18:55:27 GMT 1
BBC started all this gender crap , She is not good enough to be a referee in my opinion
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Post by CowshedJack on Apr 13, 2024 18:58:02 GMT 1
It’s so incredibly different that thank god you’re a man, so you can understand the difference. The difference is why the Women's Champions League winners don't play the Men's Champion League winners, or, indeed any Men's professional team. If you can't see the difference between Women's pro football & men's, there's no point in having a discussion with you. Yet you with no clear footballing experience are clear to know the differences. You think it’s impossible for all women to understand men’s football? Like it’s that complicated?
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Post by monkbar on Apr 13, 2024 19:00:06 GMT 1
Refs give shit decisions all the time. The fact it's a woman is irrelevant. Just seen a pen given against Bournemouth that's just as bad.
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Post by Teddington Ted on Apr 13, 2024 19:00:23 GMT 1
Just had a squizz through Twitter and this forum.
Fuck me. Are men really so insecure that they have to dish out such horrendous, misogynistic hatred towards today’s ref?
We’ve had shite refs for my 40 years of being a Town fan. The only thing different today is the genitals in this ref’s shorts.
If this is how we’re gonna lose, let’s just get fucking relegated. It’s shameful to be a part of.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 13, 2024 19:02:50 GMT 1
I don't understand why you would give a penalty for something which isn't obvious so late in a game to a team who are not playing for anything against a team fighting relegation
What was going through her head at that point? It really makes me think some referees are actively looking to manipulate results for whatever reason that might be. Did we upset her during the Hull game and she's wanted to show us who is boss. Referees are power mad, combine that with an upset woman and you've got a problem
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Post by softboy on Apr 13, 2024 19:03:07 GMT 1
Completely agree. She is female and should not be critised for her performance.Just out of interest how do you know that its men that are critising her, I thought our personal details on here were confidential.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 19:04:06 GMT 1
She should be hung out to dry Should be hanging out the drying.* *I don't mean this, I just thought it was funny.
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Post by 747max on Apr 13, 2024 19:06:09 GMT 1
If the said referee is good and has spent the required time getting the required experience over many season's working up from the lower divisions then fine... But when the referee has being fast tracked without the said experience because of 🤔 then perhaps there's a problem?
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Post by wildhogg on Apr 13, 2024 19:06:33 GMT 1
I don't understand why you would give a penalty for something which isn't obvious so late in a game to a team who are not playing for anything against a team fighting relegation What was going through her head at that point? It really makes me think some referees are actively looking to manipulate results for whatever reason that might be. Did we upset her during the Hull game and she's wanted to show us who is boss. Referees are power mad, combine that with an upset woman and you've got a problem I realise that humans make errors, but she knows the rules and the criteria for awarding a penalty. I'd love to hear her explanation for giving the one today, because it clearly shouldn't have been awarded.
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Post by sabailand on Apr 13, 2024 19:07:02 GMT 1
Just had a squizz through Twitter and this forum. Fuck me. Are men really so insecure that they have to dish out such horrendous, misogynistic hatred towards today’s ref? We’ve had shite refs for my 40 years of being a Town fan. The only thing different today is the genitals in this refs shorts.If this is how we’re gonna lose, let’s just get fucking relegated. It’s shameful to be a part of. Well nowadays she could have owt down there.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Apr 13, 2024 19:08:55 GMT 1
I don't understand why you would give a penalty for something which isn't obvious so late in a game to a team who are not playing for anything against a team fighting relegation What was going through her head at that point? It really makes me think some referees are actively looking to manipulate results for whatever reason that might be. Did we upset her during the Hull game and she's wanted to show us who is boss. Referees are power mad, combine that with an upset woman and you've got a problem She seemed to enjoy the home supporters approval of most decisions she made today
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Post by softboy on Apr 13, 2024 19:09:37 GMT 1
Completely agree. She is female and should not be critised for her performance.Just out of interest how do you know that its men that are critising her, I thought our personal details on here were confidential.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Apr 13, 2024 19:10:09 GMT 1
Just had a squizz through Twitter and this forum. Fuck me. Are men really so insecure that they have to dish out such horrendous, misogynistic hatred towards today’s ref? We’ve had shite refs for my 40 years of being a Town fan. The only thing different today is the genitals in this refs shorts.If this is how we’re gonna lose, let’s just get fucking relegated. It’s shameful to be a part of. Well nowadays she could have owt down there.
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