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Post by terrierZed on Apr 15, 2024 16:02:49 GMT 1
Sounds like ifollow won’t be a thing from next season. Does this mean an end to the ability to watch games live now from afar?? (And dodgy streams for that matter….asking for a friend?) bit.ly/4auxLRY |
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Post by Larry David on Apr 15, 2024 16:04:02 GMT 1
Defo not....they will all be shown somewhere
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Post by 2ellandback on Apr 15, 2024 16:04:55 GMT 1
Sounds like ifollow won’t be a thing from next season. Does this mean an end to the ability to watch games live now from afar?? (And dodgy streams for that matter….asking for a friend?) bit.ly/4auxLRYWill still be available to watch overseas but not in the UK. |
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Post by leroy212 on Apr 15, 2024 16:08:32 GMT 1
Does that mean a loss of income to the club as we cant pay to watch games
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 15, 2024 16:11:27 GMT 1
I won't be too sad. The picture quality is atrocious and the last game I watched on it was Tom Edwards' disasterclass
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Post by townohiofan on Apr 15, 2024 16:27:10 GMT 1
Assuming this will mean even less effort put towards ifollow for us international fans (if less effort is even possible from that service).
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Post by crux on Apr 15, 2024 16:37:08 GMT 1
Does that mean a loss of income to the club as we cant pay to watch games Sky are providing replacement for iFollow in the UK. Not sure how it will work for the non-broadcast games. It reads like non-Sky customers will be able to buy the matches on ppv like iFollow is, but who gets the money isn't specified (but no doubt Sky will keep it as they're paying more!). |
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 15, 2024 16:56:02 GMT 1
The important answer is: it'll be on IPTV 😄
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Post by runner76 on Apr 15, 2024 18:09:43 GMT 1
Does that mean a loss of income to the club as we cant pay to watch games Sky are providing replacement for iFollow in the UK. Not sure how it will work for the non-broadcast games. It reads like non-Sky customers will be able to buy the matches on ppv like iFollow is, but who gets the money isn't specified (but no doubt Sky will keep it as they're paying more!). You can pay per game on NOW TV who in is decent enough and on most platforms |
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Post by crux on Apr 15, 2024 18:56:39 GMT 1
Sky are providing replacement for iFollow in the UK. Not sure how it will work for the non-broadcast games. It reads like non-Sky customers will be able to buy the matches on ppv like iFollow is, but who gets the money isn't specified (but no doubt Sky will keep it as they're paying more!). You can pay per game on NOW TV who in is decent enough and on most platforms They are talking about an on-line option, similar to iFollow, rather than having to go with Sky or Now TV |
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Post by boooothy on Apr 15, 2024 18:57:01 GMT 1
Do they bother in Division 3?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 15, 2024 20:09:57 GMT 1
Do they bother in Division 3? 5 games from L1/2 (3rd/4th division in old money) to be shown live each weekend. |
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Post by swam4mwg on Apr 15, 2024 20:25:37 GMT 1
The important answer is: it'll be on IPTV 😄 😀 |
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Post by KingNeil on Apr 16, 2024 15:42:52 GMT 1
The important answer is: it'll be on IPTV 😄 It will Indeed👍 And the beauty of it is these iptv providers have got very clever and run their servers through vpn so sky can't do a thing despite them claiming to be able to...I've had the same provider for 9 years now |
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Post by huddshroom on Apr 16, 2024 16:09:45 GMT 1
Does this mean there will be less 3pm saturday games?
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Apr 16, 2024 16:11:30 GMT 1
Does this mean there will be less 3pm saturday games? Yes |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Apr 16, 2024 16:21:39 GMT 1
Does this mean there will be less 3pm saturday games? Yes No. Fewer 😉 |
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Post by andyboothscat on Apr 16, 2024 17:12:39 GMT 1
Does this mean there will be less 3pm saturday games? I didnt realise until today that every opening day EFL game is going to be televised - so presumably that means no 3pm football at all on first day. Not good at all. |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 16, 2024 17:16:30 GMT 1
😂 And just reiterate, the way it will work (in the Championship) is...for each league weekend fixture round, FIVE of the Saturday 3pm kick off games will be moved - so there will be just seven 3pm KO games regularly scheduled...so close to half of all fixtures will be moved...which means we're likely to get 10 or fewer Saturday 3pm home games next season when you factor in the scheduled midweek rounds...AND...ALL the opening day fixtures will be televised, along with ALL the final day fixtures (which effectively reduces the opportunity for Saturday 3pm also, although the final day has moved long ago)...all midweek league fixtures, as well as all bank holiday fixtures including Easter, Boxing Day and New Years Day. Most of the 5 Championship Saturday 3pm televised games will be moved to 12:30 on the Saturday, although it seems there is still a slot available on Friday evening and Sunday and Monday. Sky also have ALL the League Cup games (and all the EFL Trophy games, but lets hope we're not in that!), and EVERY League 1 and 2 fixture will be televised during international breaks (League 1 and 2 will have 5 broadcast games at the weekend moved from their 3pm slot). BEFORE the start of the season, all televised league games through to FA Cup 3rd Round day will be selected - and there are guarantees around parity of selection....so you won't get that "Leeds are on 30x and Hudds are on 5x" type of imbalance, we're ALL going to suffer as much as each other. Personally, I think, and have thought since this deal was announced some significant time ago (but nobody paid much attention!), that this DEVALUES football season tickets, and, whilst most fans will not consider this for the upcoming season, once they've experienced the reality of it next season, selling seats for the 25/26 season is going to become VERY difficult - and there's got to be more consideration for innovative solutions such as buying the right to a certain number of games perhaps charged dynamically at a decreasing cost on attendance - as there's going to be significant numbers who live distances away from their club, are tied to public transport, or who work or do other stuff on Saturday mornings, for who the current mode of season ticket ownership no longer stack up...the clubs NEED to keep them 'subscribed' (word carefully chosen) to league matches, because if they end up going to "pay individually" or "buy on the day" or however we want to describe it, they're no longer anywhere near as sticky, if you've not committed up front to going to games, it becomes MUCH MUCH easier to give it a miss if the weather is poor or the team is not very entertaining, or there's 5 games to go and you're guaranteed to finish 8th to 15th or whatever (if only!). Interesting times ahead. |
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Post by leroy212 on Apr 16, 2024 20:42:53 GMT 1
Does this mean there will be less 3pm saturday games? I didnt realise until today that every opening day EFL game is going to be televised - so presumably that means no 3pm football at all on first day. Not good at all. another example of how sky is slowly ruining football |
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Post by BlueValour on Apr 16, 2024 21:53:02 GMT 1
You can pay per game on NOW TV who in is decent enough and on most platforms They are talking about an on-line option, similar to iFollow, rather than having to go with Sky or Now TV Talk!! Sky have bought a UK monopoly of midweek matches!! |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Apr 16, 2024 22:12:50 GMT 1
Does this mean there will be less 3pm saturday games? I didnt realise until today that every opening day EFL game is going to be televised - so presumably that means no 3pm football at all on first day. Not good at all. I think the rule only comes into effect if 50% of the games in the top two divisions are at 3pm. As the Premier League won't have started by then, that should means that as long as no more than five Championship games kick off at 3pm, all the games in the lower two leagues could kick off at 3pm. |
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Post by willo on Apr 16, 2024 23:33:32 GMT 1
😂 And just reiterate, the way it will work (in the Championship) is...for each league weekend fixture round, FIVE of the Saturday 3pm kick off games will be moved - so there will be just seven 3pm KO games regularly scheduled...so close to half of all fixtures will be moved...which means we're likely to get 10 or fewer Saturday 3pm home games next season when you factor in the scheduled midweek rounds...AND...ALL the opening day fixtures will be televised, along with ALL the final day fixtures (which effectively reduces the opportunity for Saturday 3pm also, although the final day has moved long ago)...all midweek league fixtures, as well as all bank holiday fixtures including Easter, Boxing Day and New Years Day. Most of the 5 Championship Saturday 3pm televised games will be moved to 12:30 on the Saturday, although it seems there is still a slot available on Friday evening and Sunday and Monday. Sky also have ALL the League Cup games (and all the EFL Trophy games, but lets hope we're not in that!), and EVERY League 1 and 2 fixture will be televised during international breaks (League 1 and 2 will have 5 broadcast games at the weekend moved from their 3pm slot). BEFORE the start of the season, all televised league games through to FA Cup 3rd Round day will be selected - and there are guarantees around parity of selection....so you won't get that "Leeds are on 30x and Hudds are on 5x" type of imbalance, we're ALL going to suffer as much as each other. Personally, I think, and have thought since this deal was announced some significant time ago (but nobody paid much attention!), that this DEVALUES football season tickets, and, whilst most fans will not consider this for the upcoming season, once they've experienced the reality of it next season, selling seats for the 25/26 season is going to become VERY difficult - and there's got to be more consideration for innovative solutions such as buying the right to a certain number of games perhaps charged dynamically at a decreasing cost on attendance - as there's going to be significant numbers who live distances away from their club, are tied to public transport, or who work or do other stuff on Saturday mornings, for who the current mode of season ticket ownership no longer stack up...the clubs NEED to keep them 'subscribed' (word carefully chosen) to league matches, because if they end up going to "pay individually" or "buy on the day" or however we want to describe it, they're no longer anywhere near as sticky, if you've not committed up front to going to games, it becomes MUCH MUCH easier to give it a miss if the weather is poor or the team is not very entertaining, or there's 5 games to go and you're guaranteed to finish 8th to 15th or whatever (if only!). Interesting times ahead. Yet another stake in the coffin for me. What a total crock. |
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Post by willo on Apr 16, 2024 23:34:24 GMT 1
😂 And just reiterate, the way it will work (in the Championship) is...for each league weekend fixture round, FIVE of the Saturday 3pm kick off games will be moved - so there will be just seven 3pm KO games regularly scheduled...so close to half of all fixtures will be moved...which means we're likely to get 10 or fewer Saturday 3pm home games next season when you factor in the scheduled midweek rounds...AND...ALL the opening day fixtures will be televised, along with ALL the final day fixtures (which effectively reduces the opportunity for Saturday 3pm also, although the final day has moved long ago)...all midweek league fixtures, as well as all bank holiday fixtures including Easter, Boxing Day and New Years Day. Most of the 5 Championship Saturday 3pm televised games will be moved to 12:30 on the Saturday, although it seems there is still a slot available on Friday evening and Sunday and Monday. Sky also have ALL the League Cup games (and all the EFL Trophy games, but lets hope we're not in that!), and EVERY League 1 and 2 fixture will be televised during international breaks (League 1 and 2 will have 5 broadcast games at the weekend moved from their 3pm slot). BEFORE the start of the season, all televised league games through to FA Cup 3rd Round day will be selected - and there are guarantees around parity of selection....so you won't get that "Leeds are on 30x and Hudds are on 5x" type of imbalance, we're ALL going to suffer as much as each other. Personally, I think, and have thought since this deal was announced some significant time ago (but nobody paid much attention!), that this DEVALUES football season tickets, and, whilst most fans will not consider this for the upcoming season, once they've experienced the reality of it next season, selling seats for the 25/26 season is going to become VERY difficult - and there's got to be more consideration for innovative solutions such as buying the right to a certain number of games perhaps charged dynamically at a decreasing cost on attendance - as there's going to be significant numbers who live distances away from their club, are tied to public transport, or who work or do other stuff on Saturday mornings, for who the current mode of season ticket ownership no longer stack up...the clubs NEED to keep them 'subscribed' (word carefully chosen) to league matches, because if they end up going to "pay individually" or "buy on the day" or however we want to describe it, they're no longer anywhere near as sticky, if you've not committed up front to going to games, it becomes MUCH MUCH easier to give it a miss if the weather is poor or the team is not very entertaining, or there's 5 games to go and you're guaranteed to finish 8th to 15th or whatever (if only!). Interesting times ahead. Yet another stake in the coffin for me. What a total crock. Nail. 🤪 |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 17, 2024 0:54:13 GMT 1
I really loved iFollow as I could listen to the radio from my phone from anywhere.
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Post by johnb1 on Apr 17, 2024 7:50:19 GMT 1
I really loved iFollow as I could listen to the radio from my phone from anywhere. I think the audio will still be available. I had it from before it was called ifollow as I don't live in Hudds. |
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Post by markthehorn on Apr 17, 2024 8:15:14 GMT 1
Are people really going to watch 5 Championship games a week plus the PL ones ?
All about the armchair fan I guess now except now you probably cannot watch your own team at 3pm now .
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Post by leroy212 on Apr 17, 2024 9:18:18 GMT 1
Are people really going to watch 5 Championship games a week plus the PL ones ? All about the armchair fan I guess now except now you probably cannot watch your own team at 3pm now . I'm only ever watching us, I used to watch most premier league on a Sunday. But there's just to much football on now and tbh alot of matches are quite boring |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 17, 2024 10:39:10 GMT 1
All about the armchair fan I guess now except now you probably cannot watch your own team at 3pm now . No, but if you're a fan of the clubs involved, lets say we're 21st in the league and its 2'C in December, and chucking it down with freezing rain, are you going to go and watch Town v Oxford at 12:30, or stay at home / nip to the local pub. Plenty will avoid the live game in that scenario...assuming they could even get to a football match for a 12:30 KO anyway (LOTS of industries and small businesses still expect people to work until between midday or 1pm on a Saturday). All about the armchair fan I guess now except now you probably cannot watch your own team at 3pm now . The point being that almost half (probably actually half when you factor the opening/final/bank holiday and regular midweek games) the games WON'T be on at 3pm...the armchair fan doesnt want 3pm games (because they arent allowed to watch them), so they're happy. By my reckoning we'll have had 30 Saturday games (home AND away, AND including early kick offs) this season. Remove the opening and final day fixtures to leave 28 potential 3pm's...and on any weekend, 5 of 12 games (41%) will be moved from 3pm...which means from our 28 Saturday 3pm days, we're left with 16 that will kick off at 3pm. Which means...there will be something like EIGHT Saturday 3pm HOME games across a season (potentially somewhere between 6 and 10 depending on if you happen to get picked more at home or away). EIGHT. (COULD be 6). Imagine a single parent of a young kid who can't do evening games, and who works Saturday mornings in a car body shop...who have been paying £250 for 14 home games (assuming we're at home on the opening day), which works out at less than £18 per game and seems like a bargain compared to paying per match?? YES. Are they going to continue paying £250 for a season ticket for 8 games they can attend that effectively costs them £31+ per game they can actually attend? NOT when they can buy a matchday ticket for £25...so they'll do that, and bad weather/poor form will make the kid influence the parent to miss a couple of games (that they WOULD attend if they had a season ticket), and they'll end up watching 5 or 6 games a season instead, and losing the habit. And what if season tickets revert to the "standard" price of £299 - so they're paying £37 for their 8 games...or go up to £350 which on the face of it seems reasonable (according to the opinion on the season ticket price thread) for those of us who get to all the evening games - they're now paying £43 per game. Saturday 3pm is the CORE offering for English League football...and its been torn apart, by choice. Its not going to affect me as an individual much (other than missing "most" of the 12:30 KO's), and won't impact most fans who attend evening games, but if just a small % of people have that decision to make, attendance is going to be diluted. Perhaps not this upcoming season, as most fans won't appreciate whats happening until we've actually experienced it (assuming we do actually stay up)....this coming season its just going to be increasingly disgruntled fans like the one above who in November realise they're effectively paying £40+ per match to watch Town play Plymouth at 3pm, whilst not being able to watch the games v Leeds, Forest 🤞 or Burnley because they've been moved to 12:30. This kind of move works in a league where games are regularly sold out and there's a queue to even get into a ballot for tickets and thousands of people ready to pay a high amount if someone decides the value is no longer there, like the Premier League, but we're not in the PL. And none of these clubs currently are... www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/GB2/saison_id/2023/plus/1Click to sort by capacity...there's long established well supported clubs that have a LOT of empty seats already, who knows what happens when nearly half the games are played at 12:30 (which is ALWAYS more subdued compared to the later KO even with the same crowd). |
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