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Post by townarentbest on Apr 15, 2024 16:58:15 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 15, 2024 17:03:29 GMT 1
They probs had to reinforce the bench for the fat arses of wiles and edwards at bristol. It says something that some of the players training was poor last week, we are in a relegation battle and some players aren't seemingly doing their best in training to impress? In a relegation battle you need players to show their character and determination to sort out the situation. It is all well and good being "up for it" when things are going well, you find out the true characters when it isn't.
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 15, 2024 17:13:15 GMT 1
Footballers not giving a fuck about anything but themselves shock horror. If anyone wants to look into edwards character just look how he made a beeline for foden after we’d been dicked 5-0 live on telly hugging and cuddling him whilst joking. If an action dosent scream I don’t give a fuck about huddersfield town fans and my part in that performance then I don’t know what does. Fans in a stadium having paid a small fortune to bring families to see their team.
Before anyone says anything I know who we were playing but not only is that unprofessional and embarrassing it’s just two massive fingers up to the fan base and club who are paying your wages. Have some pride ffs. The only thing missing was a reach around to the fella who’s just bummed yer dry in the gob. Can you tell modern football irks me. I share Roy Keanes thoughts on this aspect of modern footballers.
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 15, 2024 17:15:42 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅 I just don't get what has happened to Ben Wiles... seemed to have so much going for him, but he has been shocking since signing. Can't keep up with the pace of the game and never puts in a tackle. Ben Jackson seems a shadow of the player he was before his injury... in fact he's a liability. No idea what we do with Wiles next season, but perhaps he might be better adjusted to League 1. Jackson needs to find it again or he's got to go out on loan. |
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Post by Larry David on Apr 15, 2024 17:16:20 GMT 1
Wiles makes Kwami Hodutu look like Sebastian Coe in his hey day.
Man has no energy or drive. So weak as well on the ball. I reckon a decent sized under 13 could force him off the ball.
Crappy signing that Cartwright made out to be substantial. Yeah substantially shite.
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Post by softboy on Apr 15, 2024 18:55:57 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅 Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. |
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Post by Mav on Apr 15, 2024 19:45:56 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅 Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. Bollocks to that mate …. Good on him I say. They earn a fucking fortune and if they don’t want to put the graft in then fuck ‘em. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 15, 2024 19:48:13 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅 Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. Warnock used to do it all the time |
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Post by specialun on Apr 15, 2024 20:06:11 GMT 1
I’d like to see Wiles after a proper pre season - he has to be better than we’ve seen to date
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 15, 2024 20:13:39 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅 Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. He could tell us they've all trained fantastically, but that would be a lie. It might explain why with 3 games to go Wiles is still nowhere near match fit? If he doesn't put it in in training after the club blew their entire summer budget on him then it should be called out. Too many lazy bastards at this club being handled with kids gloves for too long. If they had any personal pride they'd be putting it in every training session to try and get out of this mess. Nothing wrong with calling it out if they can't be arsed. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 15, 2024 20:24:23 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅 Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. to be fair i don't think for a second, that any of our players care about being "called out" . I doubt they care that much, as many of the games this season have shown. It seems we have quite a few who are "legends" in their own heads mind, therefore whatever AB says will just brush straight off them. |
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Post by Sparrow on Apr 15, 2024 20:42:04 GMT 1
Wiles makes Kwami Hodutu look like Sebastian Coe in his hey day. Man has no energy or drive. So weak as well on the ball. I reckon a decent sized under 13 could force him off the ball. Crappy signing that Cartwright made out to be substantial. Yeah substantially shite. I think you’ll find that Warnock wanted Willes. Not so sure Cartwright did |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 15, 2024 20:47:08 GMT 1
Wiles makes Kwami Hodutu look like Sebastian Coe in his hey day. Man has no energy or drive. So weak as well on the ball. I reckon a decent sized under 13 could force him off the ball. Crappy signing that Cartwright made out to be substantial. Yeah substantially shite. I think you’ll find that Warnock wanted Willes. Not so sure Cartwright did I think this makes it obvious as to why Wiles did a good job in both the west brom and rotherham games prior to warnock leaving. Warnock knew how he wanted to use him, yet to date we haven't used him correctly. I also think he effort levels have not being great as part of this mind due. |
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Post by softboy on Apr 15, 2024 20:55:16 GMT 1
Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. to be fair i don't think for a second, that any of our players care about being "called out" . I doubt they care that much, as many of the games this season have shown. It seems we have quite a few who are "legends" in their own heads mind, therefore whatever AB says will just brush straight off them. Don’t agree. I think they are average players who are badly coached |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 15, 2024 20:56:48 GMT 1
When Wiles came on against Millwall he played 2 or 3 brilliant crossfield passes which created chances. He also made a huge difference when he came on v Sheff Wed.
There's a player there and it wouldn't surprise me if he is one of the best players in league one next year for us.
Problem is, that might be his level.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 15, 2024 21:01:51 GMT 1
When Wiles came on against Millwall he played 2 or 3 brilliant crossfield passes which created chances. He also made a huge difference when he came on v Sheff Wed. There's a player there and it wouldn't surprise me if he is one of the best players in league one next year for us. Problem is, that might be his level. He is just ridiculously slow and unfit. Duane Holmes breezed past him multiple times last week Looks like there is something wrong to me. Whatever injury he had before joining us has clearly changed him as a player and Rotherham will have known this and seen us coming a mile off. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 15, 2024 21:02:00 GMT 1
to be fair i don't think for a second, that any of our players care about being "called out" . I doubt they care that much, as many of the games this season have shown. It seems we have quite a few who are "legends" in their own heads mind, therefore whatever AB says will just brush straight off them. Don’t agree. I think they are average players who are badly coached so andre has become a bad coach overnight ? his track record suggests otherwise. The point i was making is i don't think for a second our players give a flying.... about what AB or us as fans or the club think about them. The level of effort and preformance says as much. We have players with such big ego's and their talent can't back it up. You watch soon as we are relegated we will have players asking for moves they don't deserve within minutes. Heck we had players talking about their "premier league" aspirations HELLO lads your struggling in this league get your heads in gear. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 15, 2024 21:17:26 GMT 1
to be fair i don't think for a second, that any of our players care about being "called out" . I doubt they care that much, as many of the games this season have shown. It seems we have quite a few who are "legends" in their own heads mind, therefore whatever AB says will just brush straight off them. Don’t agree. I think they are average players who are badly coached They’ve been badly coached all season then no matter who’s been in charge |
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Post by Sparrow on Apr 15, 2024 21:20:07 GMT 1
When Wiles came on against Millwall he played 2 or 3 brilliant crossfield passes which created chances. He also made a huge difference when he came on v Sheff Wed. There's a player there and it wouldn't surprise me if he is one of the best players in league one next year for us. Problem is, that might be his level. He is just ridiculously slow and unfit. Duane Holmes breezed past him multiple times last week Looks like there is something wrong to me. Whatever injury he had before joining us has clearly changed him as a player and Rotherham will known this and seen us coming a mile off. I watched the Ben Thornley UTC podcast the other day. He talks about how much his injury changed his game and that he was no where near the same player. Michael Owen has also said similar after his hamstring injuries. Seems like Ben Wiles is just not going to be the same player after his ankle injury. So maybe it’s a case of him and the coaches working out how he can still be an effective player |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 15, 2024 21:56:56 GMT 1
He is just ridiculously slow and unfit. Duane Holmes breezed past him multiple times last week Looks like there is something wrong to me. Whatever injury he had before joining us has clearly changed him as a player and Rotherham will known this and seen us coming a mile off. I watched the Ben Thornley UTC podcast the other day. He talks about how much his injury changed his game and that he was no where near the same player. Michael Owen has also said similar after his hamstring injuries. Seems like Ben Wiles is just not going to be the same player after his ankle injury. So maybe it’s a case of him and the coaches working out how he can still be an effective player Picking up the bibs and making the tea? |
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Post by royrace on Apr 15, 2024 22:11:39 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅 Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. I think the honeymoon period is over and he's not taking any shit now. Fair play. Re Wiles I thought after his first interview he was a one club man. I can see him going back to Rotherham for a fraction of what we paid or free. |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 15, 2024 22:19:15 GMT 1
Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. I think the honeymoon period is over and he's not taking any shit now. Fair play. Re Wiles I thought after his first interview he was a one club man. I can see him going back to Rotherham for a fraction of what we paid or free. Exactly what I thought. Didn’t seem right at all this transfer to me and so it’s proven. |
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Post by efesodje23 on Apr 15, 2024 22:39:28 GMT 1
He is just ridiculously slow and unfit. Duane Holmes breezed past him multiple times last week Looks like there is something wrong to me. Whatever injury he had before joining us has clearly changed him as a player and Rotherham will known this and seen us coming a mile off. I watched the Ben Thornley UTC podcast the other day. He talks about how much his injury changed his game and that he was no where near the same player. Michael Owen has also said similar after his hamstring injuries. Seems like Ben Wiles is just not going to be the same player after his ankle injury. So maybe it’s a case of him and the coaches working out how he can still be an effective player Now now. You're not allowed to be sensible on here. They're either shit, lazy, or both. |
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Post by detox on Apr 15, 2024 23:19:47 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-breitenreiter-explains-high-risk-28998427Lees had been sidelined for five matches with a calf injury, while Rudoni missed the previous two games with a hamstring problem. However, Breitenreiter opted to select the pair in the starting lineup after they had trained for just one session.
The Terriers’ boss revealed that he had been left dissatisfied with some of his players’ performances in training heading into the game, prompting him to take a chance on the returning duo.
“It was high-risk, because he (Lees) trained just one time yesterday with the team, and also Jack Rudoni, but I was not satisfied with the performances in the training session of other players, so we took the risk, and also the players, and it worked. They played really well, so everything was right.”
So the two dropped players...Ben Jackson and Ben Wiles? 😮😅 Going to be a couple of 'has-Bens' .. |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 16, 2024 7:28:23 GMT 1
"Not happy with them in training" might mean they're tossing it off.
OR it might mean they've not (yet?) managed to do what he wants them to do well enough.
Jackson impressed Neil Warnock enough last summer to change his mind about him. Now he's tossing it off? I doubt it. The injury is probably still niggling him is all I suspect it is. However if we stay up I'd be looking to move him on. His versatility may make him a useful squad option if we're in Lg1 (plus we'd have to cut the salary budget and I suspect he's a lower earner) but if we do stay up that's a squad place that could be better utilised.
Wiles, there's reason for hope. If he gets a proper preseason he might be better. He might be better if he can shake off that injury. He might be better in Lg1.
But was Rotherham's failure this season down to a bad preseason? I'd suggest poor recruitment is the more likely reason. What's going to happen over this summer that will drastically improve him? What have people seen of him that suggests he'd be good enough in the division below?
Send him back to Rotherham? I honestly don't think he'd get in their side either.
I've wanted him to succeed, I really have. But I look at him and think he belongs in Lg2. You might get away with him at the bottom end of Lg1 but I'd hope if we do drop we're looking to bounce back quickly, and he'd be a weak link in a promotion chasing side.
There's reasons for hope, but it's a very, very faint hope. Clutching at straws. It certainly isn't expectation and if we can cut our losses and move him on this summer we should look to do so.
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 16, 2024 8:34:59 GMT 1
Not happy with them in "training" might mean they're tossing it off. OR it might mean they've not (yet?) managed to do what he wants them to do well enough. Jackson impressed Neil Warnock enough last summer to change his mind about him. Now he's tossing it off? I doubt it. The injury is probably still niggling him is all I suspect it is. However if we stay up I'd be looking to move him on. His versatility may make him a useful squad option if we're in Lg1 (plus we'd have to cut the salary budget and I suspect he's a lower earner) but if we do stay up that's a squad place that could be better utilised. Wiles, there's reason for hope. If he gets a proper preseason he might be better. He might be better if he can shake off that injury. He might be better in Lg1. But was Rotherham's failure this season down to a bad preseason? I'd suggest poor recruitment is the more likely reason. What's going to happen over this summer that will drastically improve him? What have people seen of him that suggests he'd be good enough in the division below? Send him back to Rotherham? I honestly don't think he'd get in their side either. I've wanted him to succeed, I really have. But I look at him and think he belongs in Lg2. You might get away with him at the bottom end of Lg1 but I'd hope if we do drop we're looking to bounce back quickly, and he'd be a weak link in a promotion chasing side. There's reasons for hope, but it's a very, very faint hope. Clutching at straws. It certainly isn't expectation and if we can cut our losses and move him on this summer we should look to do so. These are good points. However, I do think there’s little hope of Wiles ever improving. He’s a footballer whose level is League 1…it’s just what it is, down to ability and temperament. He’s done ok regularly in League 1, yet in the Championship he’s basically a Reading points deduction* away from three relegations in 5 seasons, the worst you can do in a single club starting at this level without dropping to League 2…and with a reasonable likelihood of making it 4 relegations in 6 seasons. Thats GOT to affect your drive. He’s been down, the world didn’t end for him, his career continued. IF he was going to improve, he had to leave Rotherham in summer of 2019. Would no doubt do a half decent job IF we are relegated, but not one worth anything close to his transfer fee, those players get picked up on free’s or a couple hundred thousand every season. If we stay up, the evidence over an extended period dating back to 2018 is that we’d get another season just like this one, a player who at this level doesn’t really do much badly wrong, but is simply not good enough to affect results on a positive basis. Anyone pointing to “potential” or “pre injury” is deluded, he wasn’t that good. Needs to go…but I’ve no idea how we make that happen 🤷♂️ *Reading would have matched Rotherham without their points deduction, but chances are without the deduction and early relegation they’d have picked up extra points in the fight. |
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Post by detox on Apr 16, 2024 9:21:42 GMT 1
Not happy with them in "training" might mean they're tossing it off. OR it might mean they've not (yet?) managed to do what he wants them to do well enough. Jackson impressed Neil Warnock enough last summer to change his mind about him. Now he's tossing it off? I doubt it. The injury is probably still niggling him is all I suspect it is. However if we stay up I'd be looking to move him on. His versatility may make him a useful squad option if we're in Lg1 (plus we'd have to cut the salary budget and I suspect he's a lower earner) but if we do stay up that's a squad place that could be better utilised. Wiles, there's reason for hope. If he gets a proper preseason he might be better. He might be better if he can shake off that injury. He might be better in Lg1. But was Rotherham's failure this season down to a bad preseason? I'd suggest poor recruitment is the more likely reason. What's going to happen over this summer that will drastically improve him? What have people seen of him that suggests he'd be good enough in the division below? Send him back to Rotherham? I honestly don't think he'd get in their side either. I've wanted him to succeed, I really have. But I look at him and think he belongs in Lg2. You might get away with him at the bottom end of Lg1 but I'd hope if we do drop we're looking to bounce back quickly, and he'd be a weak link in a promotion chasing side. There's reasons for hope, but it's a very, very faint hope. Clutching at straws. It certainly isn't expectation and if we can cut our losses and move him on this summer we should look to do so. These are good points. However, I do think there’s little hope of Wiles ever improving. He’s a footballer whose level is League 1…it’s just what it is, down to ability and temperament. He’s done ok regularly in League 1, yet in the Championship he’s basically a Reading points deduction* away from three relegations in 5 seasons, the worst you can do in a single club starting at this level without dropping to League 2…and with a reasonable likelihood of making it 4 relegations in 6 seasons. Thats GOT to affect your drive. He’s been down, the world didn’t end for him, his career continued. IF he was going to improve, he had to leave Rotherham in summer of 2019. Would no doubt do a half decent job IF we are relegated, but not one worth anything close to his transfer fee, those players get picked up on free’s or a couple hundred thousand every season. If we stay up, the evidence over an extended period dating back to 2018 is that we’d get another season just like this one, a player who at this level doesn’t really do much badly wrong, but is simply not good enough to affect results on a positive basis. Anyone pointing to “potential” or “pre injury” is deluded, he wasn’t that good. Needs to go…but I’ve no idea how we make that happen 🤷♂️ *Reading would have matched Rotherham without their points deduction, but chances are without the deduction and early relegation they’d have picked up extra points in the fight. There could be an element of who Wiles was playing alongside at Rotherham too...the way the team was set up, the roles each player had and how they interacted with each other..Collectively and individually they might look effective, but take one out and plonk him elsewhere and you get what we have, a player who looks like a fish out of water. |
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Post by royrace on Apr 16, 2024 9:28:53 GMT 1
He is just ridiculously slow and unfit. Duane Holmes breezed past him multiple times last week Looks like there is something wrong to me. Whatever injury he had before joining us has clearly changed him as a player and Rotherham will known this and seen us coming a mile off. I watched the Ben Thornley UTC podcast the other day. He talks about how much his injury changed his game and that he was no where near the same player. Michael Owen has also said similar after his hamstring injuries. Seems like Ben Wiles is just not going to be the same player after his ankle injury. So maybe it’s a case of him and the coaches working out how he can still be an effective player Thing is with Wiles though it's not like he looks half a yard slower or less skilful he just looks massively unfit. Like being unable to get around the pitch quickly enough massively hampers his game. And he looks to visibly tire really quickly. I don't know if that can be down to an old injury, psychological or whether it's something else. I guess his stats would tell a tale. There's a lot of him looking visibly frustrated when something he tries doesn't come off too which seems unprofessional to me and negative. Maybe a proper pre season with the right coach will help. |
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Post by cyberman on Apr 16, 2024 9:31:24 GMT 1
Calling players out in public (whether named directly or let the fans work it out) is so unprofessional. I think the honeymoon period is over and he's not taking any shit now. Fair play. Re Wiles I thought after his first interview he was a one club man. I can see him going back to Rotherham for a fraction of what we paid or free. and then scoring a hat-trick against us, in a playoff final when he comes on as a sub, with 10 mins left in extra time ?? |
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Post by araucaria on Apr 16, 2024 10:01:21 GMT 1
These are good points. However, I do think there’s little hope of Wiles ever improving. He’s a footballer whose level is League 1…it’s just what it is, down to ability and temperament. He’s done ok regularly in League 1, yet in the Championship he’s basically a Reading points deduction* away from three relegations in 5 seasons, the worst you can do in a single club starting at this level without dropping to League 2…and with a reasonable likelihood of making it 4 relegations in 6 seasons. Thats GOT to affect your drive. He’s been down, the world didn’t end for him, his career continued. IF he was going to improve, he had to leave Rotherham in summer of 2019. Would no doubt do a half decent job IF we are relegated, but not one worth anything close to his transfer fee, those players get picked up on free’s or a couple hundred thousand every season. If we stay up, the evidence over an extended period dating back to 2018 is that we’d get another season just like this one, a player who at this level doesn’t really do much badly wrong, but is simply not good enough to affect results on a positive basis. Anyone pointing to “potential” or “pre injury” is deluded, he wasn’t that good. Needs to go…but I’ve no idea how we make that happen 🤷♂️ *Reading would have matched Rotherham without their points deduction, but chances are without the deduction and early relegation they’d have picked up extra points in the fight. There could be an element of who Wiles was playing alongside at Rotherham too...the way the team was set up, the roles each player had and how they interacted with each other..Collectively and individually they might look effective, but take one out and plonk him elsewhere and you get what we have, a player who looks like a fish out of water. That may well be the case; the Jon Russell syndrome, perhaps? I recall that, after Wiles's debut at West Brom, Warnock said he was walking by the end, but he had played well. He also said that Rudoni had run 13km and Hogg and one other, (Wiles?) 11km. During the season where we couldn't attend, 2020-21, Rotherham drew 0-0 here at a time when Town were doing their impression of Crisp in the 1973 Grand National. Wiles was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch, though he missed a sitter on 90 minutes after they'd done everything but score in an embarrassing second half for us. We'd have been in the shit if we'd lost that match, so Ben Wiles has played his part in keeping us up once at least. |
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