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Post by blackmoreisgod on Apr 21, 2024 8:23:17 GMT 1
There tends to be reasons why players are let out on loan from clubs:
Young player needing game time to develop
Player coming back from injury needing to build fitness
Poor attitude & needs shipping out to stop him stinking your own squad out.
Um, any guesses which one Burgzorg might be?
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Post by rockwall on Apr 21, 2024 8:25:24 GMT 1
Didn't know we are a 1 man team. Is Burgzorg at fault for schoolboy defending? Is he at fault for defence and midfield not being able to pass a ball? He has his flaws - but the criticism is way over the top. The reason Burgzorg gets criticism is because he's a selfish wanker. It is Team Burgzorg before all else. Today isn't the first time his selfishness has cost the team but today's was especially bad. However if it was the first time people would give him some slack. It isn't, it has cost us on numerous occasions. “Play for the name on the front of the shirt, and they will remember the name on the back.” Doesn't suprise me the way he is with the way fans have been. Played correctly, he would be by far our best player. But to say he has cost us games is rubbish. We have simply lost games because we are shit as a whole. Helik has even been shit since he came back from injury. To pinpoint one player right now is rubbish. |
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Post by rockwall on Apr 21, 2024 8:28:18 GMT 1
Didn't know we are a 1 man team. Is Burgzorg at fault for schoolboy defending? Is he at fault for defence and midfield not being able to pass a ball? He has his flaws - but the criticism is way over the top. if he passes to Rudoni, that last 15 minutes is a very different game If Koroma scored at 0-0 when he tried smashing the ball into next week, we wouldn't have gone 1-0 down, as their goal from the resulting goal kick. Are people blaming Koroma? If we don't show Lowe in onto his right foot, which we know about as he always scores against us, and defend properly and show him onto his left, we don't go 1-0 down. But people choose a player and find something to blame them. Always the case with our fanbase. If we somehow manage to survive by winning the next 2 and Burgzorg scores the goal to keep us up. I would love this thread bumping. |
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Post by Floyds on Apr 21, 2024 8:29:05 GMT 1
The reason Burgzorg gets criticism is because he's a selfish wanker. It is Team Burgzorg before all else. Today isn't the first time his selfishness has cost the team but today's was especially bad. However if it was the first time people would give him some slack. It isn't, it has cost us on numerous occasions. “Play for the name on the front of the shirt, and they will remember the name on the back.” Doesn't suprise me the way he is with the way fans have been. Played correctly, he would be by far our best player. But to say he has cost us games is rubbish. We have simply lost games because we are shit as a whole. Helik has even been shit since he came back from injury. To pinpoint one player right now is rubbish. It’s more the frustration that he’s played as a striker. When he’s not a striker. With three of them on the bench! If he was out wide he might still be decent but he’s 💯 not a striker. So the whole discussion should be on AB and how he sets the team up. Which is not very well (to be polite). |
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Post by Larry David on Apr 21, 2024 8:29:28 GMT 1
I don't blame Burgzorg at all. Yeah he is a selfish player but he has don't more positive for us than negative. Typical town fans scapegoating one player than the real reasons.
He was far more effective as a winger.
I blame the manager for playing him as a striker and leaving three strikers on the bench.
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Post by rockwall on Apr 21, 2024 8:31:49 GMT 1
Doesn't suprise me the way he is with the way fans have been. Played correctly, he would be by far our best player. But to say he has cost us games is rubbish. We have simply lost games because we are shit as a whole. Helik has even been shit since he came back from injury. To pinpoint one player right now is rubbish. It’s more the frustration that he’s played as a striker. When he’s not a striker. With three of them on the bench! If he was out wide he might still be decent but he’s 💯 not a striker. So the whole discussion should be on AB and how he sets the team up. Which is not very well (to be polite). Exactly. |
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Post by lankystreak on Apr 21, 2024 8:50:27 GMT 1
Whether played as a striker, winger, full back or anywhere else on the pitch does not affect his decision making in that situation. He didn't pass because he's a greedy bastard and that's what people are annoyed with.
What infuriated me more was his reaction afterwards, there wasn't even acknowledgement of team mates let alone an apology.
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Post by Merseyterrier on Apr 21, 2024 8:56:13 GMT 1
But the reaction of Thomas & Pearson was obvious……
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Post by midlander on Apr 21, 2024 8:58:14 GMT 1
Read a lot of this, but his square option was Rudoni. Are you that convinced that he would have found an empty net from fifteen yards with his record of scuffing 90% of shits he hits? Yes. I think he would. And if he hadn't, that wouldn't be Burgzorg's fault! If the argument in favour of Burgzorg there is that he didn't pass to Rudoni because he didn't have faith in him to put it away then that is worse than greed. It's a lack of faith in your teammates. When you are in the shit as we are, a team spirit is the very first thing you need. You are misunderstanding me mate. Burgzorg should have done one of three things: 1 Immediately stopped when Rushworth handled as it was a definite red 2 Hit it first time with his left into empty net 3 square to Riding The fact he did none of the above is selfishness of the highest order. My point was more, would Rudoni have scored if he had squared it |
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Post by rockwall on Apr 21, 2024 10:17:06 GMT 1
There tends to be reasons why players are let out on loan from clubs: Young player needing game time to develop Player coming back from injury needing to build fitness Poor attitude & needs shipping out to stop him stinking your own squad out. Um, any guesses which one Burgzorg might be? I doubt he would be playing if he was stinking the squad out. Playing style and decision making doesn't determine your personality. I haven't seen anything to suggest he is a bad apple. All iv seen is a weakness of making the correct decision in attacking areas. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 21, 2024 10:47:36 GMT 1
Dont think Ive ever been an angry with a Town player as I was with Burgzorg when he did that.
Koroma's miss was terrible, but thats just a player not having the quality needed..its different.
Bergzorg showed that to him, it is WAY more important that HE scores, than the team scores...and thats at 0-0 two thirds of the way through a must win game!
I doubt he gives a shit if we go down.
Think thats the most selfish, greedy thing Ive even seen in a professional football match. Its was obscene. Im sick of the guy,,he can fuck right back off to whoever it was we got him from.
If I was the manager he'd never pull on our shirt again after that.
If I was one of his team mates they'd have had to drag me off him after the game.
Made me wonder what a Peter Clarke or Bullock or Jeppo would have made of that if they were still in this team.
They'd have battered the greedy idiot.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 21, 2024 11:02:29 GMT 1
Burgzorg is a maverick, and although you could hardly call him prolific, when he did score he was really up for it.
As the season wore on, his head was in a different place, not sure we can put him in the 1st XI next week, bench would be fine for me though. He’s one of those frustrating players that will divide opinion wherever he plays I’d imagine.
There’s a reason he’s on loan here & not Leicester…
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Post by ram on Apr 21, 2024 11:16:07 GMT 1
Cartwright is doing a brilliant job,Kev says so!
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 21, 2024 11:19:04 GMT 1
I don't blame Burgzorg at all. Yeah he is a selfish player but he has don't more positive for us than negative. Typical town fans scapegoating one player than the real reasons. He was far more effective as a winger. I blame the manager for playing him as a striker and leaving three strikers on the bench. Mental Absolutely. We’ve 3 strikers on the bench yet again. AB is useless. The players are useless. |
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Post by terryya on Apr 21, 2024 11:52:52 GMT 1
Dont think Ive ever been an angry with a Town player as I was with Burgzorg when he did that. Koroma's miss was terrible, but thats just a player not having the quality needed..its different. Bergzorg showed that to him, it is WAY more important that HE scores, than the team scores...and thats at 0-0 two thirds of the way through a must win game! I doubt he gives a shit if we go down. Think thats the most selfish, greedy thing Ive even seen in a professional football match. Its was obscene. Im sick of the guy,,he can fuck right back off to whoever it was we got him from. If I was the manager he'd never pull on our shirt again after that. If I was one of his team mates they'd have had to drag me off him after the game. Made me wonder what a Peter Clarke or Bullock or Jeppo would have made of that if they were still in this team. They'd have battered the greedy idiot. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a stadium go as mad at one player as when Burgzorg put his own personal glory over an entire football club. The fact it's the third time in almost as many games just multiplied the anger even further. For me, and thousands of others, they can pay him up and send him home tomorrow. Can't get my head around people defending him. Even for here, that is a new level of bonkers. I think you're harsh on Koroma! That was somebody picking the correct option but not executing it. You'll see misses like that every week at the very highest level. |
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Post by royrace on Apr 21, 2024 11:53:07 GMT 1
Cartwright is doing a brilliant job,Kev says so! He can't really say in public he's doing a shit job to be fair to him! Didn't he say he leaves them to it then goes through their scorecard at the end of each period. If it's marks out of ten Cartwright isn't getting above a 2. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Apr 21, 2024 11:56:03 GMT 1
Cartwright is doing a brilliant job,Kev says so! He can't really say in public he's doing a shit job to be fair to him! Didn't he say he leaves them to it then goes through their scorecard at the end of each period. If it's marks out of ten Cartwright isn't getting above a 2. Or maybe a 7 if Chicken is doing the ratings  |
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Post by impact on Apr 21, 2024 11:59:45 GMT 1
The reason Burgzorg gets criticism is because he's a selfish wanker. It is Team Burgzorg before all else. Today isn't the first time his selfishness has cost the team but today's was especially bad. However if it was the first time people would give him some slack. It isn't, it has cost us on numerous occasions. “Play for the name on the front of the shirt, and they will remember the name on the back.” Doesn't suprise me the way he is with the way fans have been. Played correctly, he would be by far our best player. But to say he has cost us games is rubbish. We have simply lost games because we are shit as a whole. Helik has even been shit since he came back from injury. To pinpoint one player right now is rubbish. What you're not getting is that people can accept poor performances, awful finishes, mistakes etc. That's a skill and ability issue. They can't accept selfishness and a player putting themself before the team on numerous occasions. That's nothing to do with ability. |
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Post by Sio on Apr 21, 2024 12:02:07 GMT 1
No he hasn't. Not sure who you're thinking of Heard he’d left in February…not seen or heard any evidence to the contrary. Has he been at any games? I don't think announcements that staff haven't left are particularly common in any walk of life! |
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Post by impact on Apr 21, 2024 12:02:19 GMT 1
Dont think Ive ever been an angry with a Town player as I was with Burgzorg when he did that. Koroma's miss was terrible, but thats just a player not having the quality needed..its different. Bergzorg showed that to him, it is WAY more important that HE scores, than the team scores...and thats at 0-0 two thirds of the way through a must win game! I doubt he gives a shit if we go down. Think thats the most selfish, greedy thing Ive even seen in a professional football match. Its was obscene. Im sick of the guy,,he can fuck right back off to whoever it was we got him from. If I was the manager he'd never pull on our shirt again after that. If I was one of his team mates they'd have had to drag me off him after the game. Made me wonder what a Peter Clarke or Bullock or Jeppo would have made of that if they were still in this team. They'd have battered the greedy idiot. Look at the reactions of Rudoni and Thomas. They're tired of his shit. |
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Post by Sparrow on Apr 21, 2024 12:36:10 GMT 1
Dont think Ive ever been an angry with a Town player as I was with Burgzorg when he did that. Koroma's miss was terrible, but thats just a player not having the quality needed..its different. Bergzorg showed that to him, it is WAY more important that HE scores, than the team scores...and thats at 0-0 two thirds of the way through a must win game! I doubt he gives a shit if we go down. Think thats the most selfish, greedy thing Ive even seen in a professional football match. Its was obscene. Im sick of the guy,,he can fuck right back off to whoever it was we got him from. If I was the manager he'd never pull on our shirt again after that. If I was one of his team mates they'd have had to drag me off him after the game. Made me wonder what a Peter Clarke or Bullock or Jeppo would have made of that if they were still in this team. They'd have battered the greedy idiot. 100% agree with this. I’ve never ever been one to boo a player or the team. Never done it, never seen the point. Yesterday when Burgzorg was subbed i booed him. It was the most selfish act i’ve ever seen. With the players we now have available, he should never pull a Town shirt on again. Before his injury i was a big fan of him. Since he’s come back he’s just been incredibly selfish in every game and i’d never want to see him in a town shirt again. I’m positive he’s on a bonus if he scores 10 goals and that’s why he’s being so selfish |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 21, 2024 17:36:00 GMT 1
Heard he’d left in February…not seen or heard any evidence to the contrary. Has he been at any games? I don't think announcements that staff haven't left are particularly common in any walk of life! So just to repeat...have you seen him in or around the ground, within hospitality or in the exec seating area at games either live or in pictures (where he was often pictured pre Christmas)? Heard he's left whilst technically still being employed for 3 months. Would be interested in seeing/hearing ANYONE with any actual evidence to the contrary...there must be plenty on here who sit within viewing distance of the exec seats or who got into hospitality. |
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Post by leroy212 on Apr 21, 2024 19:05:25 GMT 1
Can’t say we weren’t warned about Cartwright. Maynardblue said months ago he was nothing but a second hand car salesman with tomato sauce stains on his suit. It was egg on his shirt, I doubt he'd know how to open a tomato sauce bottle. Do you think nagle would sack Cartwright and Edwards if we go down? |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 21, 2024 19:08:53 GMT 1
Do we have to buy Zorg like we did mbenza?
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 21, 2024 19:21:06 GMT 1
Do we have to buy Zorg like we did mbenza? Oh I do hope so. This board will be hilarious next season. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 21, 2024 19:24:04 GMT 1
Does anybody seriously think Burgzorg would be any different if we played him on the wing or wherever is best position is? He'd still be a greedy bastard who'd likely create four fifths of fuck all for anybody but himself regardless of where he played
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Post by Wingman on Apr 21, 2024 19:26:18 GMT 1
Do we have to buy Zorg like we did mbenza? Oh I do hope so. This board will be hilarious next season. Don’t be cruel to us Kenny, you rotten sod 🥴 |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Apr 21, 2024 19:30:40 GMT 1
I don't dislike Burgzorg but what i do dislike is so called Town fans booing a Huddersfield Town player FFS talk about respect
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Post by drumriggend on Apr 21, 2024 19:30:51 GMT 1
To be fair there’s 2 men on n the line if he squares it to rudoni so it’s not an open goal tap in..
But if he goes down the keeper gets a straight red..
So like I’ve said previously he’s got more tattoos than brain cells..
He’s a small problem in the current shit show that is Huddersfield town..
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 21, 2024 19:39:08 GMT 1
Whilst he has had some magic moments this season he has cost us 5 points potentially with yesterday and Stoke.
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