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Post by tonytiler on Apr 21, 2024 1:45:56 GMT 1
Worthington I think would be a good coach for us in League 1.
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Post by duncfost01 on Apr 21, 2024 6:28:29 GMT 1
Lots of aggression on here between fellow town fans.
Massive shit show on the pitch which comes down to one thing.
The players simply aren’t good enough. Yes Warnock eventually got a tune out of them but Hungbo made a massive difference. He scored goals at key times and took the pressure off.
Wasn’t he one of Warnock’s targets ?
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Apr 21, 2024 6:43:14 GMT 1
Nope. After the first few games AB looked the business too. Chopping and changing again won’t solve the issues with the squad. Likely not but I’m expecting no different next week v Birmingham than we got this week v Swansea. Absolutely none. I have to say that I didn't fancy us yesterday, purely for the reason that we are incapable of playing against teams who are possession based. We don't know how to press properly, we don't move off the ball well enough and we don't have anyone who can keep the ball when we do get it. Birmingham aren't that type of team. I think we have a much better chance of getting into them and making it a horrible, ugly slugfest between 2 crap teams (like Millwall). Not if we turn up unprepared again like yesterday though. |
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Post by irverino on Apr 21, 2024 9:17:40 GMT 1
Not hard to understand why many are saying we should have stuck with Worthy (& co) till the international break or even the end of the season. I thought he did really well in the four games he oversaw & kept the instructions simple to the players which was clearly evident in both wins over Wendies & Mackems.....Warnock & Worthy record was played 11, won 4, lost 5, drew 2..14 points (-3 GD).
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 21, 2024 10:41:55 GMT 1
Fuck me this one really takes the top spot for stupid threads this week
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 21, 2024 10:45:52 GMT 1
Sod off. Seriously. Just sod off. We go all out to bring in a serial winner, who has won leagues, promotions, taken the unfancied to dizzy heights. Then we give him a squad that isn't good enough, with gaping holes and no balance, with no variation and no options. And it's somehow the manager's fault. People going 'I've seen nothing': well, no. You won't. We've won 9 games all season. Under four different managers. None of them has won more than three games in their tenure. We're desperate for direction and stability. People wondered why he didn't change it at Rotherham. Well, here's your answer. He changed it today because we had to win. He had to gamble. It backfired. But what could he have done? He had to change system and try to find a way of winning. That involved taking the risk of losing. He didn't tell players to stand off, not track runners, to switch off. The players did that. The system didn't work because when we lost Matos we lost all our quality in the middle. We lost the screen. But senior players didn't assume any leadership and head dropped because we've been underwhelming all season, confidence is at rock bottom, things are always going against us and never for us. We'd lost the game as soon as Ward hit the post. 'Here we go again' - that was writ large on every player's body language. The only circumstances in which I'd change manager, underwhelming as Breitenreiter has been thus far, is if he does not intend to remain next season. He's inherited a shitshow. Someone needs to be given time and money to turn it round properly and Breitenreiter's record tells us that he does exactly that. He might not be the firefighter we needed. We probably will go down under him. But his responsibility is minimal compared to others and we need stability and ideas from a coach, not a director of football. Worthington got a lift, but by the time he moved aside that lift had gone. He was a short-term appointment who could operate without pressure. He isn't an answer to anything other than who should manage the academy. THANK THE FUCKING LORD FOR YOU, SIR. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 21, 2024 11:28:28 GMT 1
Fucking mental some people are. Time and time again...ITS NOT THE MANAGER ITS THE PLAYERS These players are now playing with fear... they are frightened in case they make a mistake and it affects everything they do. As for conversion of gilt-edged chances... they panic - Burgzorg and Rudoni being prime examples of this. |
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Post by cyberman on Apr 21, 2024 11:33:22 GMT 1
Fucking mental some people are. Time and time again...ITS NOT THE MANAGER ITS THE PLAYERS These players are now playing with fear... they are frightened in case they make a mistake and it affects everything they do. As for conversion of gilt-edged chances... they panic - Burgzorg and Rudoni being prime examples of this. Burgzog is looking after Burgzog - one shining light will be (relegation or not) at the final whistle at Ipswich he will never wear a Town shirt again and be sent packing back to Wurstland never to be seen again Cartwright must be wrong in his head if he thinks this player is what we needed - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delano_Burgzorg - Shite player who has been shite in shite leagues ! |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 21, 2024 12:03:46 GMT 1
Sod off. Seriously. Just sod off. We go all out to bring in a serial winner, who has won leagues, promotions, taken the unfancied to dizzy heights. Then we give him a squad that isn't good enough, with gaping holes and no balance, with no variation and no options. And it's somehow the manager's fault. People going 'I've seen nothing': well, no. You won't. We've won 9 games all season. Under four different managers. None of them has won more than three games in their tenure. We're desperate for direction and stability. People wondered why he didn't change it at Rotherham. Well, here's your answer. He changed it today because we had to win. He had to gamble. It backfired. But what could he have done? He had to change system and try to find a way of winning. That involved taking the risk of losing. He didn't tell players to stand off, not track runners, to switch off. The players did that. The system didn't work because when we lost Matos we lost all our quality in the middle. We lost the screen. But senior players didn't assume any leadership and head dropped because we've been underwhelming all season, confidence is at rock bottom, things are always going against us and never for us. We'd lost the game as soon as Ward hit the post. 'Here we go again' - that was writ large on every player's body language. The only circumstances in which I'd change manager, underwhelming as Breitenreiter has been thus far, is if he does not intend to remain next season. He's inherited a shitshow. Someone needs to be given time and money to turn it round properly and Breitenreiter's record tells us that he does exactly that. He might not be the firefighter we needed. We probably will go down under him. But his responsibility is minimal compared to others and we need stability and ideas from a coach, not a director of football. Worthington got a lift, but by the time he moved aside that lift had gone. He was a short-term appointment who could operate without pressure. He isn't an answer to anything other than who should manage the academy. He could start by leaving Matos on. Every time he takes Matos off, which he does frequently, we concede goals. Matos would likely have covered the runner for the second goal yesterday, leaving Thomas to bemoan yet another crap free kick. We haven't scored more than one goal in a game for two months, yet he still refuses to start a striker. We can blame the players all we like but Breitenreiter needs to take a look at himself as well. Right now his past record means fuck all. His only achievement with us so far is to have a worse points per game ratio than Moore. Ten points in eleven games is no where near good enough and if the "the buck stops with Kev", then surely the same applies to the manager who so far has flattered to deceive. Breitenreiter was sacked from his previous job having won just seven games and had been out of work for a year before joining us. I wonder why that was with having such a glowing record. Whilst I'm not advocating his sacking yet, as well as the players, he needs to up his game. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 21, 2024 12:10:39 GMT 1
These players are now playing with fear... they are frightened in case they make a mistake and it affects everything they do. As for conversion of gilt-edged chances... they panic - Burgzorg and Rudoni being prime examples of this. Burgzog is looking after Burgzog - one shining light will be (relegation or not) at the final whistle at Ipswich he will never wear a Town shirt again and be sent packing back to Wurstland never to be seen again Cartwright must be wrong in his head if he thinks this player is what we needed - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delano_Burgzorg - Shite player who has been shite in shite leagues ! I said after his first few appearances that he was rubbish and had a few on here telling me I didn't know what a good footballer looks like. You could see from day one that he held on to the ball too long, had zero awareness of where his team mates were, thought rolling his studs over the ball was the greatest skill of all time, second touch was regularly a tackle etc etc. Yes he can strike a ball quite well occasionally and has decent pace. That isn't much use when you have the footballing IQ of a Sentinelese seeing a ball for the first time |
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Post by mosher on Apr 21, 2024 16:05:56 GMT 1
Here we fucking go. Give him the job permanently next season. The fans want him in charge, so give him the job and let's see how good he REALLY is. And when he fails and loses his preferred Academy job too, the fans clamouring for it have only themselves to blame. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 21, 2024 16:13:47 GMT 1
Sod off. Seriously. Just sod off. We go all out to bring in a serial winner, who has won leagues, promotions, taken the unfancied to dizzy heights. Then we give him a squad that isn't good enough, with gaping holes and no balance, with no variation and no options. And it's somehow the manager's fault. People going 'I've seen nothing': well, no. You won't. We've won 9 games all season. Under four different managers. None of them has won more than three games in their tenure. We're desperate for direction and stability. People wondered why he didn't change it at Rotherham. Well, here's your answer. He changed it today because we had to win. He had to gamble. It backfired. But what could he have done? He had to change system and try to find a way of winning. That involved taking the risk of losing. He didn't tell players to stand off, not track runners, to switch off. The players did that. The system didn't work because when we lost Matos we lost all our quality in the middle. We lost the screen. But senior players didn't assume any leadership and head dropped because we've been underwhelming all season, confidence is at rock bottom, things are always going against us and never for us. We'd lost the game as soon as Ward hit the post. 'Here we go again' - that was writ large on every player's body language. The only circumstances in which I'd change manager, underwhelming as Breitenreiter has been thus far, is if he does not intend to remain next season. He's inherited a shitshow. Someone needs to be given time and money to turn it round properly and Breitenreiter's record tells us that he does exactly that. He might not be the firefighter we needed. We probably will go down under him. But his responsibility is minimal compared to others and we need stability and ideas from a coach, not a director of football. Worthington got a lift, but by the time he moved aside that lift had gone. He was a short-term appointment who could operate without pressure. He isn't an answer to anything other than who should manage the academy. He could start by leaving Matos on. Every time he takes Matos off, which he does frequently, we concede goals. Matos would likely have covered the runner for the second goal yesterday, leaving Thomas to bemoan yet another crap free kick. We haven't scored more than one goal in a game for two months, yet he still refuses to start a striker. We can blame the players all we like but Breitenreiter needs to take a look at himself as well. Right now his past record means fuck all. His only achievement with us so far is to have a worse points per game ratio than Moore. Ten points in eleven games is no where near good enough and if the "the buck stops with Kev", then surely the same applies to the manager who so far has flattered to deceive. Breitenreiter was sacked from his previous job having won just seven games and had been out of work for a year before joining us. I wonder why that was with having such a glowing record. Whilst I'm not advocating his sacking yet, as well as the players, he needs to up his game. He took time out to look after his father, who was ill. |
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Post by Wingman on Apr 21, 2024 16:35:24 GMT 1
Lots of aggression on here between fellow town fans. Massive shit show on the pitch which comes down to one thing. The players simply aren’t good enough. Yes Warnock eventually got a tune out of them but Hungbo made a massive difference. He scored goals at key times and took the pressure off. Wasn’t he one of Warnock’s targets ? Oh for a Joseph Hungbo over a Delano fucking Burgzorg. This epitomises the backwards leaps we have made. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 21, 2024 16:39:58 GMT 1
Lots of aggression on here between fellow town fans. Massive shit show on the pitch which comes down to one thing. The players simply aren’t good enough. Yes Warnock eventually got a tune out of them but Hungbo made a massive difference. He scored goals at key times and took the pressure off. Wasn’t he one of Warnock’s targets ? Oh for a Joseph Hungbo over a Delano fucking Burgzorg. This epitomises the backwards leaps we have made. Yep and we lost out to a nurnberg team who just sits him on the bench every week |
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Post by uptownfunk on Apr 21, 2024 17:38:47 GMT 1
It’s been too many voices and systems for these players… Why wait for so long to sack Moore then have no one lined up- have to put Worthy in charge temparily.. That should have all been pre planned.
Were sacking Moore on this date
We’re appointing Worthy until end of season
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We’re appointing Andre etc
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