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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jul 5, 2024 14:19:33 GMT 1
Problem bojan has is heart. He was tinning out of challenges and hiding. Looked like he has worried about getting hurt all the time
That doesn’t bode well in league one where centre backs take no prisoners and will love it if the first time they put a mark on him he backs off etc
I hope he works out but my worry is not talent but rather attitude/bravery
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Post by upthetown on Jul 5, 2024 14:21:45 GMT 1
Agree it's been a decent week. If we're playing 352 i still say we need another CDM and CF. The icing on the cake would be tying Helik down to a new longer contract. Kasumu and Hogg between them should be sufficient for CDM. Then we have Wiles, Kane and Evans competing for the more attacking slots. Strikers - I’d like to see us get shut of Simpson, Hudlin and one ot Harratt or Ward if bringing another in.
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Post by upthetown on Jul 5, 2024 14:23:10 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thinks with a good pre season and given time Bojan will be excellent this season? Definitely looked to have something about him when he came off the bench away at Man City. Some decent play away at Blackburn and QPR too (I think). Him, Healey and a strong pacey striker would give us some good options.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 5, 2024 14:30:41 GMT 1
Problem bojan has is heart. He was tinning out of challenges and hiding. Looked like he has worried about getting hurt all the time That doesn’t bode well in league one where centre backs take no prisoners and will love it if the first time they put a mark on him he backs off etc I hope he works out but my worry is not talent but rather attitude/bravery Send him to a boxing or mixed martial arts gym for a week. I'll be suggesting drinking Guiness next 😉
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Post by JoelG on Jul 5, 2024 14:36:49 GMT 1
Problem bojan has is heart. He was tinning out of challenges and hiding. Looked like he has worried about getting hurt all the time That doesn’t bode well in league one where centre backs take no prisoners and will love it if the first time they put a mark on him he backs off etc I hope he works out but my worry is not talent but rather attitude/bravery He was never properly fit last season, was nursing injuries the entire time. Probably why he looked timid. Hopefully we can get him fully fit and he will look a bit braver
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Post by iffyslostlens on Jul 5, 2024 14:40:19 GMT 1
Just watched the Evans highlights. Nearly all His goals are from outside the box. Let’s have it!!! Could be wrong but I can't remember us scoring a single goal from outside the area last season? 🤔 Helik scored a nice one. May have just been inside the area though
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Post by arry11 on Jul 5, 2024 14:52:46 GMT 1
Agree it's been a decent week. If we're playing 352 i still say we need another CDM and CF. The icing on the cake would be tying Helik down to a new longer contract. Kasumu and Hogg between them should be sufficient for CDM. Then we have Wiles, Kane and Evans competing for the more attacking slots. Strikers - I’d like to see us get shut of Simpson, Hudlin and one ot Harratt or Ward if bringing another in. Not sure about that Hogg is past his best and may only feature if needed. Kasumu picks up a few injuries and his distribution is not all that. we need to find a guy who can protect our defenders and is comfortable with the ball.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jul 5, 2024 15:04:44 GMT 1
Kasumu and Hogg between them should be sufficient for CDM. Then we have Wiles, Kane and Evans competing for the more attacking slots. Strikers - I’d like to see us get shut of Simpson, Hudlin and one ot Harratt or Ward if bringing another in. Not sure about that Hogg is past his best and may only feature if needed. Kasumu picks up a few injuries and his distribution is not all that. we need to find a guy who can protect our defenders and is comfortable with the ball. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that Kasumu may look much more effective with a couple of ‘ball playing’ midfielders within easy reach when he’s won the ball back. It can’t have been easy to look good for any of them in midfield over the last couple of years.
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Post by alanalanleeee on Jul 5, 2024 15:10:02 GMT 1
We’ve simply not seen enough of Bojan to write him off. You could say the same thing goes both ways but there’s certainly a player in there. He’s tall and good in the air and that would be excellent alongside Healey.
We could have a League One Crouchy and Defoe situation.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 5, 2024 15:12:37 GMT 1
Not sure about that Hogg is past his best and may only feature if needed. Kasumu picks up a few injuries and his distribution is not all that. we need to find a guy who can protect our defenders and is comfortable with the ball. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that Kasumu may look much more effective with a couple of ‘ball playing’ midfielders within easy reach when he’s won the ball back. It can’t have been easy to look good for any of them in midfield over the last couple of years. Agree with you there some other players will benefit from having better players around them but not sure about Kasumu in that defensive midfield roll and would like to see someone who can play that roll. i.e Domonic Ball who is without club
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 5, 2024 15:30:16 GMT 1
Surely we have to give Bojan a bit more of a chance ? He joined us from a Scandinavian he hadn't played for a couple of months. Add in that he has moved to a new country and it sometimes takes a year for players to settle in. Hopefully, he has beefed up a bit over the summer as he needs to be able to fight with defenders more. I am not going to give up on him just yet. I don't think we will give up on him, but if promotion is the aim for this season we need better in front than we have. I was more so talking about the fans giving up on him rather than the club. Lots of posts suggesting he isn't good enough. Alot of recent posts supporting him and giving him time etc.. good stuff
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jul 5, 2024 15:50:37 GMT 1
I don't think we will give up on him, but if promotion is the aim for this season we need better in front than we have. I was more so talking about the fans giving up on him rather than the club. Lots of posts suggesting he isn't good enough. Alot of recent posts supporting him and giving him time etc.. good stuff ‘Lots of posts’ isn’t thousands of fans within the stadium, it’s just a few wallopers on the internet. Most of whom can’t even tie their own shoelaces.
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Post by merseysideterrier on Jul 5, 2024 16:18:33 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thinks with a good pre season and given time Bojan will be excellent this season? Not at all. My main concern with him last season was he looked match-rusty and lightweight, but if he spends preseason in the gym (and to be fair, he already looked a bit bigger against Emley) then he could do well this year.
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Post by terryya on Jul 5, 2024 16:19:25 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thinks with a good pre season and given time Bojan will be excellent this season? Could really do with a couple of goals early on and then he could have a great season.
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Post by cyberman on Jul 5, 2024 16:20:25 GMT 1
I was more so talking about the fans giving up on him rather than the club. Lots of posts suggesting he isn't good enough. Alot of recent posts supporting him and giving him time etc.. good stuff ‘Lots of posts’ isn’t thousands of fans within the stadium, it’s just a few wallopers on the internet. Most of whom can’t even tie their own shoelaces. Fuck me rigid - I wear slip-ons just for that reason !
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Post by alexdire on Jul 5, 2024 16:30:27 GMT 1
Am I the only one that thinks with a good pre season and given time Bojan will be excellent this season? No you're not. My only concern is this physical stuff. But he should be too good for most league one defences.
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Post by Wingman on Jul 5, 2024 16:43:17 GMT 1
Ball playing midfielder ✔️ Proper wingbacks ✔️ Goalscoring attacking midfielder ✔️ Set-piece specialist ✔️ Good age ✔️ Proven quality at this level ✔️ 4 players that seem to fit the criteria of areas we needed to improve, Evans and Sorensen won player of the year at their clubs, Sorensen got in the team of the season aswell, Kane won player of the month in December and is proven quality at this level, Miller has two promotions from league 1 and played a big part in Plymouth staying in the championship. All for under £1m. Still work to do, but we're definitely heading in the right direction. Wehn you look at it like that...fair play to the recruitment team. Offload a few and bring a few more quality players in and we could end up with a better squad, and a transfer fee surplus overall. That would be some closed season.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 5, 2024 16:48:15 GMT 1
Ball playing midfielder ✔️ Proper wingbacks ✔️ Goalscoring attacking midfielder ✔️ Set-piece specialist ✔️ Good age ✔️ Proven quality at this level ✔️ 4 players that seem to fit the criteria of areas we needed to improve, Evans and Sorensen won player of the year at their clubs, Sorensen got in the team of the season aswell, Kane won player of the month in December and is proven quality at this level, Miller has two promotions from league 1 and played a big part in Plymouth staying in the championship. All for under £1m. Still work to do, but we're definitely heading in the right direction. Wehn you look at it like that...fair play to the recruitment team. Offload a few and bring a few more quality players in and we could end up with a better squad, and a transfer fee surplus overall. That would be some closed season. I would say the squads is already better balanced than last season we just need to add the finishing touchers make it so Kev.
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Post by londoncowling on Jul 5, 2024 16:54:33 GMT 1
It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that Kasumu may look much more effective with a couple of ‘ball playing’ midfielders within easy reach when he’s won the ball back. It can’t have been easy to look good for any of them in midfield over the last couple of years. Agree with you there some other players will benefit from having better players around them but not sure about Kasumu in that defensive midfield roll and would like to see someone who can play that roll. i.e Domonic Ball who is without club don’t be surprised to see Dave start as first choice defensive mid he has the attributes given a fair crack without injury the lad can be superb for us next season his main issue will be trying to keep himself in front of Jonny Hogg in the starting line up JH can also have a stormer of a season I’d be amazed if the MD brings a player in for that pos
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jul 5, 2024 17:09:17 GMT 1
Agree with you there some other players will benefit from having better players around them but not sure about Kasumu in that defensive midfield roll and would like to see someone who can play that roll. i.e Domonic Ball who is without club don’t be surprised to see Dave start as first choice defensive mid he has the attributes given a fair crack without injury the lad can be superb for us next season his main issue will be trying to keep himself in front of Jonny Hogg in the starting line up JH can also have a stormer of a season I’d be amazed if the MD brings a player in for that pos I think Wiles may have a break out season next year. There's normally one a new manager gets more out of There's definitely a player there and he looked to have injury issues which hopefully will be sorted by a summer off Under a settled manager could see him rediscover his form
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Post by alanalanleeee on Jul 5, 2024 17:11:13 GMT 1
Agree with you there some other players will benefit from having better players around them but not sure about Kasumu in that defensive midfield roll and would like to see someone who can play that roll. i.e Domonic Ball who is without club don’t be surprised to see Dave start as first choice defensive mid he has the attributes given a fair crack without injury the lad can be superb for us next season his main issue will be trying to keep himself in front of Jonny Hogg in the starting line up JH can also have a stormer of a season I’d be amazed if the MD brings a player in for that pos Couldn’t agree more with this. Kas will be class this year, his engine will be so important alongside two ball players. We haven’t had that for a long time (Mooy alongside a younger Hogg?). Hogg will also be a massive part of the side, whether it’s as a sub or filling in gaps along the way. I can see our next incomings only happening once we’ve had some players leave.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 5, 2024 17:54:01 GMT 1
So where is there improvement on our defensive midfield we had Matos last year for a reason.
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Post by Hazza on Jul 5, 2024 18:00:25 GMT 1
I think the problem was we had no 8s or 10s so Kasumu was pushed forward or across to wing back. I agree I’d be giving him the chance to be the main man at 6 with Hoggy backing up. Then two of the new lads and wiles as 8/10s.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 5, 2024 18:07:48 GMT 1
I think the problem was we had no 8s or 10s so Kasumu was pushed forward or across to wing back. I agree I’d be giving him the chance to be the main man at 6 with Hoggy backing up. Then two of the new lads and wiles as 8/10s. We can't just go with 2 players who's style of play will always result in injuries
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Post by londoncowling on Jul 5, 2024 18:18:21 GMT 1
So where is there improvement on our defensive midfield we had Matos last year for a reason. [/quote reason was Moore and Cartwright didn’t have a clue we desperately needed a right back not another dcm and Matos was poor once the shine had worn off
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Post by arry11 on Jul 5, 2024 18:28:14 GMT 1
So where is there improvement on our defensive midfield we had Matos last year for a reason. [/quote reason was Moore and Cartwright didn’t have a clue we desperately needed a right back not another dcm and Matos was poor once the shine had worn off Poor or not he was there to make up the numbers for an ageing Hogg and Kasumu
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 5, 2024 18:59:29 GMT 1
Brilliant.
From... "Evans, great signing. We just need a striker from the PL on loan now"... to,
"We really need to look at our defence and I'm also worried about Hogg and Kasumu if they get injured".
Only on DATM.
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Post by londoncowling on Jul 5, 2024 19:04:10 GMT 1
Poor or not he was there to make up the numbers for an ageing Hogg and Kasumu he was making up the numbers alright
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Post by 88888 on Jul 5, 2024 19:57:51 GMT 1
I really hope town do everything in their power to snub Wrexham and go in for George Dobson, would be a great replacement and alternative to Hogg
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Post by Hazza on Jul 5, 2024 20:40:41 GMT 1
I think the problem was we had no 8s or 10s so Kasumu was pushed forward or across to wing back. I agree I’d be giving him the chance to be the main man at 6 with Hoggy backing up. Then two of the new lads and wiles as 8/10s. We can't just go with 2 players who's style of play will always result in injuries 2 players for every position plus a youngster in reserve is about right. 3 first teamers for every position isn’t realistic. So unless hoggy is really taking a backwards step or they sell kasumu, I can’t see another specialist 6 coming in.
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