arry11
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Post by arry11 on Jul 14, 2024 16:57:18 GMT 1
Nantes is 4hr from Paris could be just a few days away with family before Austria 🤷🏻♀️ I've seen a couple of people say he could be having a weekend away. A weekend away mid-preseason after they've all just had 4 weeks off at the end of the season. If that's true then we might as well down tools now and get Neil back in to take em all to the pub as well. I don't have a problem with the Gaffer giving players a few days off as you say it's still mid pre season the build up to the start of the season will begin n Austria.
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Post by Lovechops on Jul 14, 2024 17:42:46 GMT 1
Nantes is 4hr from Paris could be just a few days away with family before Austria 🤷🏻♀️ I've seen a couple of people say he could be having a weekend away. A weekend away mid-preseason after they've all just had 4 weeks off at the end of the season. If that's true then we might as well down tools now and get Neil back in to take em all to the pub as well. Do u expect them to work 7 days a week ?
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 14, 2024 17:53:12 GMT 1
I've seen a couple of people say he could be having a weekend away. A weekend away mid-preseason after they've all just had 4 weeks off at the end of the season. If that's true then we might as well down tools now and get Neil back in to take em all to the pub as well. Do u expect them to work 7 days a week ? I think some people actually do. It seems beyond them that footballers have a life away from football.
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Post by steo1986 on Jul 14, 2024 17:58:53 GMT 1
Nantes is 4hr from Paris could be just a few days away with family before Austria 🤷🏻♀️ I've seen a couple of people say he could be having a weekend away. A weekend away mid-preseason after they've all just had 4 weeks off at the end of the season. If that's true then we might as well down tools now and get Neil back in to take em all to the pub as well. Fuck me man they played Saturday they don't go to this following Saturday to Austria that's when the hard work starts and its straight into the season they will prob be allowed a few days of rest and what they do with them day or where they go is none of you're business, yes he's gone to France doesn't mean he's gone to Nantes to sign for them. Yeah sounds about right get warnock to take them to the pub you do come out with some shite! There are some moaners on this forum i must admit !!!
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 14, 2024 18:58:12 GMT 1
I've seen a couple of people say he could be having a weekend away. A weekend away mid-preseason after they've all just had 4 weeks off at the end of the season. If that's true then we might as well down tools now and get Neil back in to take em all to the pub as well. Fuck me man they played Saturday they don't go to this following Saturday to Austria that's when the hard work starts and its straight into the season they will prob be allowed a few days of rest and what they do with them day or where they go is none of you're business, yes he's gone to France doesn't mean he's gone to Nantes to sign for them. Yeah sounds about right get warnock to take them to the pub you do come out with some shite! There are some moaners on this forum i must admit !!! I am guessing they have had a tough 3 weeks. Rest is I credibly important, when and how much will determine injuries and season long fitness
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Post by rockwall on Jul 14, 2024 18:59:55 GMT 1
I've seen a couple of people say he could be having a weekend away. A weekend away mid-preseason after they've all just had 4 weeks off at the end of the season. If that's true then we might as well down tools now and get Neil back in to take em all to the pub as well. Fuck me man they played Saturday they don't go to this following Saturday to Austria that's when the hard work starts and its straight into the season they will prob be allowed a few days of rest and what they do with them day or where they go is none of you're business, yes he's gone to France doesn't mean he's gone to Nantes to sign for them. Yeah sounds about right get warnock to take them to the pub you do come out with some shite! There are some moaners on this forum i must admit !!! Also, what would the difference between going to France or say his hometown of London? Not much in it travel time.
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Post by Big Jim on Jul 14, 2024 19:01:29 GMT 1
I completely understand that rest is equally as important as training, and I don't expect them to work 7 days a week.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 15, 2024 3:01:46 GMT 1
Birmingham laying out £1.3m on a fullback from Hearts. Certainly going for it with their unproven new manager. That in itself doesn’t fuss me as throwing cash about guarantees nothing. What does worry me is the fact some clubs in League One might just rollover at the sight of them and try take points off ‘lesser’ clubs. That’s the only way I see Birmingham winning anything. I actually think it tends to work the other way. I’m happy for Birmingham to be the ‘big team’ that everyone gets up for and raises their game.
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Post by runner76 on Jul 15, 2024 8:39:49 GMT 1
Birmingham laying out £1.3m on a fullback from Hearts. Certainly going for it with their unproven new manager. That in itself doesn’t fuss me as throwing cash about guarantees nothing. What does worry me is the fact some clubs in League One might just rollover at the sight of them and try take points off ‘lesser’ clubs. That’s the only way I see Birmingham winning anything. I actually think it tends to work the other way. I’m happy for Birmingham to be the ‘big team’ that everyone gets up for and raises their game. Will be same for Town, then, as one of the big teams!
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 15, 2024 8:53:06 GMT 1
I actually think it tends to work the other way. I’m happy for Birmingham to be the ‘big team’ that everyone gets up for and raises their game. Will be same for Town, then, as one of the big teams! Unfortunately yes, I think a lot of teams will sit back and try to get a draw. It’s what frustrated me with Lee Clark’s unbeaten run, that many of the draws actually felt like wins for the opposition.
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Post by runner76 on Jul 15, 2024 9:02:08 GMT 1
Will be same for Town, then, as one of the big teams! Unfortunately yes, I think a lot of teams will sit back and try to get a draw. It’s what frustrated me with Lee Clark’s unbeaten run, that many of the draws actually felt like wins for the opposition. Still annoyed we went to the Charlton game where the run ended…!!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 15, 2024 9:29:08 GMT 1
Will be same for Town, then, as one of the big teams! Unfortunately yes, I think a lot of teams will sit back and try to get a draw. It’s what frustrated me with Lee Clark’s unbeaten run, that many of the draws actually felt like wins for the opposition. I remember grabbing draws from the jaws of victory during that run...🤔
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Post by ezzie on Jul 15, 2024 9:57:01 GMT 1
Birmingham got spanked 0-5 by Paderborn this weekend 🤭
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Post by ezzie on Jul 15, 2024 9:57:50 GMT 1
Any news on Balker? 😓 what a horrendous start to the campaign that’d be if he’s out again…
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Post by thomo on Jul 15, 2024 10:13:21 GMT 1
Any news on Balker? 😓 what a horrendous start to the campaign that’d be if he’s out again… I think we just have to assume even if he recovers from this one he'll be out for at least half the season, probably not fully fit for another quarter of the season. It'll be a bonus when he plays to his full potential.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 15, 2024 10:23:54 GMT 1
Be nice if could get 1 or 2 done before they go to Austria. No real links or rumours though so possibly not. A ball playing centre half may just have moved up the list to be alongside a striker now though.
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Post by royrace on Jul 15, 2024 11:11:08 GMT 1
Any news on Balker? 😓 what a horrendous start to the campaign that’d be if he’s out again… I think we just have to assume even if he recovers from this one he'll be out for at least half the season, probably not fully fit for another quarter of the season. It'll be a bonus when he plays to his full potential. I think we need to forget about Balker, terrible signing. Luckily we have three other centre backs plenty good enough at this level and others that can cover. If he is fit at any point to fill in then that's a bonus but I don't see him ever being fit for a sustained period, based on his past injury record.
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 15, 2024 11:40:55 GMT 1
Nantes is 4hr from Paris could be just a few days away with family before Austria 🤷🏻♀️ I've seen a couple of people say he could be having a weekend away. A weekend away mid-preseason after they've all just had 4 weeks off at the end of the season. If that's true then we might as well down tools now and get Neil back in to take em all to the pub as well. Quite normal to get a few days off de-load before then travelling to an overseas camp where things will be stepped up a level.
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Post by mosher on Jul 15, 2024 12:20:58 GMT 1
Maybe Carlos will storm out in big hissy fit if he doesn’t get the players he wants…. He's already tried to leave for a Spanish team, but the move was blocked. Surely not? I thought he only left us because we wouldn't back him? He can't be a mercenary, not King Carlos
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Post by keefer on Jul 15, 2024 12:22:29 GMT 1
I think we just have to assume even if he recovers from this one he'll be out for at least half the season, probably not fully fit for another quarter of the season. It'll be a bonus when he plays to his full potential. I think we need to forget about Balker, terrible signing. Luckily we have three other centre backs plenty good enough at this level and others that can cover. If he is fit at any point to fill in then that's a bonus but I don't see him ever being fit for a sustained period, based on his past injury record. I think (hope) Ayina will get a bit of game time in the coming season. Along with Iorpenda he represents the future of Town. Mind, I thought that about Diarra and Camara and look how they turned out. Incidentally, Camara is now with Charleroi, he never got a game with Udinese
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Post by thomo on Jul 15, 2024 12:24:32 GMT 1
I think we just have to assume even if he recovers from this one he'll be out for at least half the season, probably not fully fit for another quarter of the season. It'll be a bonus when he plays to his full potential. I think we need to forget about Balker, terrible signing. Luckily we have three other centre backs plenty good enough at this level and others that can cover. If he is fit at any point to fill in then that's a bonus but I don't see him ever being fit for a sustained period, based on his past injury record. We have Helik and Spencer for now. I wouldn't want to be starting with Pearson or Lees
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 15, 2024 12:27:13 GMT 1
He's already tried to leave for a Spanish team, but the move was blocked. Surely not? I thought he only left us because we wouldn't back him? He can't be a mercenary, not King Carlos One of our greatest ever managers, apparently.
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Post by royrace on Jul 15, 2024 12:38:08 GMT 1
I think we need to forget about Balker, terrible signing. Luckily we have three other centre backs plenty good enough at this level and others that can cover. If he is fit at any point to fill in then that's a bonus but I don't see him ever being fit for a sustained period, based on his past injury record. We have Helik and Spencer for now. I wouldn't want to be starting with Pearson or Lees I'd be happy with Pearson and Lees, both capable championship centre backs so more than good enough for L1 assuming Lees hasn't been affected by his injury. Spencer unproven at CB, looks like he'll be more than capable but hasn't played the enough to form an opinion imo and lacks experience.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jul 15, 2024 13:02:35 GMT 1
We have Helik and Spencer for now. I wouldn't want to be starting with Pearson or Lees I'd be happy with Pearson and Lees, both capable championship centre backs so more than good enough for L1 assuming Lees hasn't been affected by his injury. Spencer unproven at CB, looks like he'll be more than capable but hasn't played the enough to form an opinion imo and lacks experience. Not a chance we’d be near the top with those two as our centre backs. Top 6 at a push.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 15, 2024 13:16:11 GMT 1
We have Helik and Spencer for now. I wouldn't want to be starting with Pearson or Lees I'd be happy with Pearson and Lees, both capable championship centre backs so more than good enough for L1 assuming Lees hasn't been affected by his injury. Spencer unproven at CB, looks like he'll be more than capable but hasn't played the enough to form an opinion imo and lacks experience. These "capable Championship centre backs" - along with others - have conceded 140 goals in the last two Championship seasons.
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Post by royrace on Jul 15, 2024 13:24:57 GMT 1
I'd be happy with Pearson and Lees, both capable championship centre backs so more than good enough for L1 assuming Lees hasn't been affected by his injury. Spencer unproven at CB, looks like he'll be more than capable but hasn't played the enough to form an opinion imo and lacks experience. These "capable Championship centre backs" - along with others - have conceded 140 goals in the last two Championship seasons. But both were mainstays in the team when we finished third We also have Helik, who incidentally has now been relegated twice in three seasons. Is he shit too? Far too simplistic to write them off based on goals conceded, especially bearing in mind the state of the rest of the team and the coaching situation.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 15, 2024 13:28:10 GMT 1
I'd be happy with Pearson and Lees, both capable championship centre backs so more than good enough for L1 assuming Lees hasn't been affected by his injury. Spencer unproven at CB, looks like he'll be more than capable but hasn't played the enough to form an opinion imo and lacks experience. These "capable Championship centre backs" - along with others - have conceded 140 goals in the last two Championship seasons. I think we’ve more tended to concede goals down to just poor play as a team.whether that been that couldn’t pass water and constantly turning the ball over or just not everyone doing their jobs properly. Lees I like,was very solid the playoff season.Doesn’t do anything outstanding but just dependable generally.I think as the central man in a 3 he would be sound,especially when dropping a level and also mostly second fiddle to Helik if he stays. Pearson I think is a good defender but more in a man for man type style,on the ball he’s pretty terrible,which in a team you would expect to boss the ball is not what you want. He could also probably do a job centrally. The two either side I wouldn’t really want either there unless as a sub.I’d be pretty adamant the wider two of the need some level of pace. It’s unfortunate for balker but I’d be looking for someone who’s got that but that is also fairly capable on the ball,maybe not easy to find,it had to be ultra specific id want a left footer,still think Spencer more than capable on the right.I think ayina is left footed so I wonder if he will get his chance to prove himself in Austria,he did frighten me to death when he’s played previously though,looked like needed talking through a game positionally
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 15, 2024 13:32:14 GMT 1
These "capable Championship centre backs" - along with others - have conceded 140 goals in the last two Championship seasons. But both were mainstays in the team when we finished third We also have Helik, who incidentally has now been relegated twice in three seasons. Is he shit too? Far too simplistic to write them off based on goals conceded, especially bearing in mind the state of the rest of the team and the coaching situation. I agree, and I was being facetious. However I struggle to find justification for calling them capable defenders at a level that we've just been relegated from (and nearly were the season before). They're both 3 years older than our play-off season - Lees is 33 and Pearson is 30, they're only going to get worse.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 15, 2024 13:39:59 GMT 1
But both were mainstays in the team when we finished third We also have Helik, who incidentally has now been relegated twice in three seasons. Is he shit too? Far too simplistic to write them off based on goals conceded, especially bearing in mind the state of the rest of the team and the coaching situation. I agree, and I was being facetious. However I struggle to find justification for calling them capable defenders at a level that we've just been relegated from (and nearly were the season before). They're both 3 years older than our play-off season - Lees is 33 and Pearson is 30, they're only going to get worse. They're only going to be playing against slower attackers, with less ability. Neither Lees or Pearson have any pace to lose, their experience, strength & character will make them invaluable this coming season, especially if we've lost Balker for a good part of it already.
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Post by griffa on Jul 15, 2024 13:47:28 GMT 1
These "capable Championship centre backs" - along with others - have conceded 140 goals in the last two Championship seasons. I think we’ve more tended to concede goals down to just poor play as a team.whether that been that couldn’t pass water and constantly turning the ball over or just not everyone doing their jobs properly. Lees I like,was very solid the playoff season.Doesn’t do anything outstanding but just dependable generally.I think as the central man in a 3 he would be sound,especially when dropping a level and also mostly second fiddle to Helik if he stays. Pearson I think is a good defender but more in a man for man type style,on the ball he’s pretty terrible,which in a team you would expect to boss the ball is not what you want. He could also probably do a job centrally. The two either side I wouldn’t really want either there unless as a sub.I’d be pretty adamant the wider two of the need some level of pace. It’s unfortunate for balker but I’d be looking for someone who’s got that but that is also fairly capable on the ball,maybe not easy to find,it had to be ultra specific id want a left footer,still think Spencer more than capable on the right.I think ayina is left footed so I wonder if he will get his chance to prove himself in Austria,he did frighten me to death when he’s played previously though,looked like needed talking through a game positionally You question Ayina's positional prowess, Spencer has great potential, but he has the same problem, as seen in several games last season - UTT.
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