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Post by htafcokay on Jul 17, 2024 21:13:33 GMT 1
Kasumu will be more than good enough in league one. Same as Diakhaby and Mbenza would tear up the Championship?
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 17, 2024 21:13:49 GMT 1
Kasumu will be more than good enough in league one. Kasmu is defo a player, who imo could come to be very good if used right - Lets hope Duff is that guy.
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Post by Ross83 on Jul 17, 2024 21:21:39 GMT 1
Kasumu will be more than good enough in league one. Same as Diakhaby and Mbenza would tear up the Championship? We signed him because of his performances in this league and he wants to play football, that's the difference. I don't think he'll tear it up but I think he's more than good enough.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 17, 2024 21:22:45 GMT 1
Kasumu will be more than good enough in league one. Kasmu is defo a player, who imo could come to be very good if used right - Lets hope Duff is that guy. If used right? He had the odd decent game last season but unless his touch improves he wont be much use trying to win league 1. Too often second touch a tackle and then a booking.
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Post by londoncowling on Jul 17, 2024 21:23:13 GMT 1
bit harsh that the lad was used in three different positions last season and did reasonably well should have started every game when available has more energy and drive than most and puts a shift in would be happy with Kasumu at DCM this season Having seen him struggle to do even the basic thing of passing to a teammate five yards away, game after game, week after week, it's not harsh in the slightest. not having that either his passing was on a par with everyone else if memory serves (not saying much I know) i’m not a stats man really as they can skew opinion but would be interesting to be see his passing stats over your five yard criteria although a five yard pass under pressure isn’t as easy as it sounds tackles made runners tracked duels won he’s up there
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 17, 2024 21:26:50 GMT 1
Kasmu is defo a player, who imo could come to be very good if used right - Lets hope Duff is that guy. If used right? He had the odd decent game last season but unless his touch improves he wont be much use trying to win league 1. Too often second touch a tackle and then a booking. I think if he is asked to do the basics , of get the ball and give it . Then he could be useful for the squad to help in many ways. His energy could be useful at times , to see out games at times for example. Like i say if Duff can use him to do the hard workign aspects of the game, then give him players to give the ball to, then he could be useful in that respect.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 17, 2024 21:32:07 GMT 1
If used right? He had the odd decent game last season but unless his touch improves he wont be much use trying to win league 1. Too often second touch a tackle and then a booking. I think if he is asked to do the basics , of get the ball and give it . Then he could be useful for the squad to help in many ways. His energy could be useful at times , to see out games at times for example. Like i say if Duff can use him to do the hard workign aspects of the game, then give him players to give the ball to, then he could be useful in that respect. I get your point but just not sure hes better than hoggy even in his dotage! Time will tell
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 17, 2024 21:38:36 GMT 1
I think if he is asked to do the basics , of get the ball and give it . Then he could be useful for the squad to help in many ways. His energy could be useful at times , to see out games at times for example. Like i say if Duff can use him to do the hard workign aspects of the game, then give him players to give the ball to, then he could be useful in that respect. I get your point but just not sure hes better than hoggy even in his dotage! Time will tell No he isn't , but we can't rely on Hogg at his age to play every game, or every minute of every game. His energy can be useful intself at times, if like i say used correctly. We have play playing mids/ midfielders now in Evans and Kane, but Kasmu/ Hogg can balance that off nicely.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 17, 2024 21:41:27 GMT 1
Kasmu is defo a player, who imo could come to be very good if used right - Lets hope Duff is that guy. If used right? He had the odd decent game last season but unless his touch improves he wont be much use trying to win league 1. Too often second touch a tackle and then a booking. Not being great on the ball hasn't stopped Hogg from having a good career. Kasumu will be fine with a bit of confidence in his play which will come quickly when we're not getting beat every week
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 17, 2024 21:43:57 GMT 1
Same as Diakhaby and Mbenza would tear up the Championship? We signed him because of his performances in this league and he wants to play football, that's the difference. I don't think he'll tear it up but I think he's more than good enough. He's a clogger.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 17, 2024 21:44:57 GMT 1
Having seen him struggle to do even the basic thing of passing to a teammate five yards away, game after game, week after week, it's not harsh in the slightest. not having that either his passing was on a par with everyone else if memory serves (not saying much I know) i’m not a stats man really as they can skew opinion but would be interesting to be see his passing stats over your five yard criteria although a five yard pass under pressure isn’t as easy as it sounds tackles made runners tracked duels won he’s up there I lost count of the amount of times Kasumu passed the ball into touch, with his passes often nowhere near his teammates.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 17, 2024 22:07:33 GMT 1
If used right? He had the odd decent game last season but unless his touch improves he wont be much use trying to win league 1. Too often second touch a tackle and then a booking. Not being great on the ball hasn't stopped Hogg from having a good career. Kasumu will be fine with a bit of confidence in his play which will come quickly when we're not getting beat every week I hope youre right......but l1 is his level imho.
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Post by londoncowling on Jul 17, 2024 22:16:24 GMT 1
not having that either his passing was on a par with everyone else if memory serves (not saying much I know) i’m not a stats man really as they can skew opinion but would be interesting to be see his passing stats over your five yard criteria although a five yard pass under pressure isn’t as easy as it sounds tackles made runners tracked duels won he’s up there I lost count of the amount of times Kasumu passed the ball into touch, with his passes often nowhere near his teammates. see above
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Post by itkterrier on Jul 17, 2024 22:21:33 GMT 1
Doesn’t take a genius to work out that playing Kasumu as a ball winner and nothing else with players who can pass the ball in front of him that he’ll do well.
Hogg can’t pass either but apparently he’s the dogs bollocks
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Post by dezzly on Jul 17, 2024 22:31:25 GMT 1
Doesn’t take a genius to work out that playing Kasumu as a ball winner and nothing else with players who can pass the ball in front of him that he’ll do well. Hogg can’t pass either but apparently he’s the dogs bollocks Isn’t that basically the job Kasumu did for mk dons before he signed for us.Won tackles,recovered the ball etc,basically the donkey work.Mk dons were known for being a “footballing” side. He’s been bang average for us but he stepped up a level into a bang average side. Not sure duff will use him but I think he’s worth keeping around for certain games or game situations.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 17, 2024 23:13:18 GMT 1
Dont get this myth that Hogg cant pass. hes certainly capable of a terrible pass..but he can also execute a great one.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 17, 2024 23:41:05 GMT 1
I lost count of the amount of times Kasumu passed the ball into touch, with his passes often nowhere near his teammates. see above See above.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 17, 2024 23:49:27 GMT 1
Kasumu will play is part i'm sure but we should be still looking to improve if we have funds which KN says that's not an issue.
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Post by terryya on Jul 17, 2024 23:50:57 GMT 1
Doesn’t take a genius to work out that playing Kasumu as a ball winner and nothing else with players who can pass the ball in front of him that he’ll do well. Hogg can’t pass either but apparently he’s the dogs bollocks Isn’t that basically the job Kasumu did for mk dons before he signed for us.Won tackles,recovered the ball etc,basically the donkey work.Mk dons were known for being a “footballing” side. He’s been bang average for us but he stepped up a level into a bang average side. Not sure duff will use him but I think he’s worth keeping around for certain games or game situations. If only he had stepped into a bang average side! For the last two seasons we could only dream of being bang average. I think he'll do a great job for us this season.
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Jul 18, 2024 0:04:45 GMT 1
Kasumu sitting in front of the defence is exactly what I wouldn't wanna see. Might be off with my comparison but I think of Jordan Henderson doing that role and it just makes no sense. He has legs, energy to burn, is relatively good at winning back the ball and can drive forward with it pretty well. Why shackle him into a defensive role? A long term Hogg replacement is the type of midfielder I would like to see but one with a better passing range or maybe vision if we want to call it that. Proper tempo setter who can do a bit more than just playing it simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2024 0:28:33 GMT 1
Finally a rumour! However i think we should be focusing more on defence/attack than another midfielder, but if it improves us i’m all for it!
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Post by arry11 on Jul 18, 2024 1:00:21 GMT 1
Finally a rumour! However i think we should be focusing more on defence/attack than another midfielder, but if it improves us i’m all for it! Would say that's all in the plans KN want's a couple of strikers probably need to shift out a couple first.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 18, 2024 6:58:41 GMT 1
Not being great on the ball hasn't stopped Hogg from having a good career. Kasumu will be fine with a bit of confidence in his play which will come quickly when we're not getting beat every week I hope youre right......but l1 is his level imho. Not sure if you’ve noticed but we’re in league 1, so he should be fine then.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 18, 2024 7:00:42 GMT 1
Dont get this myth that Hogg cant pass. hes certainly capable of a terrible pass..but he can also execute a great one. Hogg’s cross field balls are really good, he struggles trying to pass it on the deck through traffic.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 18, 2024 7:26:42 GMT 1
I hope youre right......but l1 is his level imho. Not sure if you’ve noticed but we’re in league 1, so he should be fine then. Not if we want to get out of it and back up quickly imho.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 18, 2024 7:41:54 GMT 1
Not sure if you’ve noticed but we’re in league 1, so he should be fine then. Not if we want to get out of it and back up quickly imho. With all these great players we've got (according to some) I'm surprised we went down in the first place.
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Post by digs on Jul 18, 2024 7:51:46 GMT 1
Not if we want to get out of it and back up quickly imho. With all these great players we've got (according to some) I'm surprised we went down in the first place. We went down because of a girl ref
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 18, 2024 7:54:04 GMT 1
With all these great players we've got (according to some) I'm surprised we went down in the first place. We went down because of a girl ref Ah yes, of course!
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Post by dezzly on Jul 18, 2024 7:57:36 GMT 1
Dont get this myth that Hogg cant pass. hes certainly capable of a terrible pass..but he can also execute a great one. I think it’s more he usually plays the safe passes that don’t really affect the game.He does switch the play fairly well at times but doesn’t often play a pass that takes players out of the game,be that through tight spaces into feet or in behind midfielders or defenders for players to run onto. I think with evans and Kane in the side we could well see some of those what we’ve been missing and why we haven’t scored many goals and been very easy to play against.
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Post by thomo on Jul 18, 2024 8:30:40 GMT 1
Not if we want to get out of it and back up quickly imho. With all these great players we've got (according to some) I'm surprised we went down in the first place. I totally realise it's not easy to offload players, especially those under contract, but I'm concerned how many of the perennial failures are still here. Well no doubt have a few tough spells of the season and these players have proven time and time again they're not up for the fight. Would still love to see these gone: Ward Thomas Koroma Kasumu Pearson Harratt Hudlin Add to that Wiles if we can. Maybe Lees too. We knew Balker wouldn't figure - wish we'd have got rid a few weeks back. Add to that the uncertainty of keeping players that have shown quality - Helik, Spencer and Nicholls. I'm just not convinced about our automatic promotion chances yet. We look very much a side with a half chance of play offs which is just not good enough for me. Hoping we have more up our sleeves but the fact there's so much reshaping of the squad to do as we go into our main pre season matches is a worry for me.
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