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Post by Orinoco on Jul 19, 2024 15:13:57 GMT 1
With all these great players we've got (according to some) I'm surprised we went down in the first place. I totally realise it's not easy to offload players, especially those under contract, but I'm concerned how many of the perennial failures are still here. Well no doubt have a few tough spells of the season and these players have proven time and time again they're not up for the fight. Would still love to see these gone: Ward Thomas Koroma Kasumu Pearson Harratt Hudlin Add to that Wiles if we can. Maybe Lees too. We knew Balker wouldn't figure - wish we'd have got rid a few weeks back. Add to that the uncertainty of keeping players that have shown quality - Helik, Spencer and Nicholls. I'm just not convinced about our automatic promotion chances yet. We look very much a side with a half chance of play offs which is just not good enough for me. Hoping we have more up our sleeves but the fact there's so much reshaping of the squad to do as we go into our main pre season matches is a worry for me. Could get rid of a few on Temu if throw in a free phone charger!!
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Post by londoncowling on Jul 19, 2024 15:38:45 GMT 1
as I’ve said earlier for me the blame for the last two seasons debacles lies mainly at the door of the occupants of the managers office and our dof NW and JW excluded players quickly suss out coaches / managers who aren’t up to it and the consequences we are now living with League one footy Warnock is not blameless tho as he will protect his brand at all costs also some of the contract renewals were questionable two egos collided and he left these things happen his successors JW apart the ermimator and pinnocio failed when the players attitudes and quality are brought into question think back to the four games under Worthy when the upturn in form attitude energy and results were quite remarkable We're mostly in agreement then, but it seemed like you were arguing the whole thing with me. Although I'm not sure Worthy was the answer for the rest of the season, probably better than what we eventually got with AB though and the grenades that AB dropped in his press conference certainly haven't helped with fans' perceptions of some players. But Sir Neil did the same in his conference too, dropping the "play-offs" bomb into the mix. Like you say though, that's Neil's modus operandi much as I love the guy and want to bear his children I'm not sure the gung-ho games Worthy** gave us would have lasted til the end of the season, they already looked knackered by the fourth game and even the battering we gave Wednesday we were mostly shit apart from 20 minutes. We should have been behind in that game before we took the lead, then they collapsed, which was obviously nice to see ** again not a dig at Worthy, love the guy, especially as he's just signed my boss' cousin for the Academy good luck to the lad anyway back to the window bringing a goal scorer in is the key to promotion 🤞
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Post by Lovechops on Jul 19, 2024 15:53:32 GMT 1
Can we have a separate thread for the mass debating (Altho I think some are doing similar over NW 🤣😂) and let’s get this thread back to transfer issues!
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Post by E4b on Jul 19, 2024 15:58:58 GMT 1
Can we have a separate thread for the mass debating (Altho I think some are doing similar over NW 🤣😂) and let’s get this thread back to transfer issues! Anyone know where I can get a good cooked breakfast in town?
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Post by wilmohtafc on Jul 19, 2024 16:01:53 GMT 1
Can we have a separate thread for the mass debating (Altho I think some are doing similar over NW 🤣😂) and let’s get this thread back to transfer issues! I'll start, anyone think we'll get this Hodge player in today? Looks interesting although I'd prefer to have bought a player so we're not at square 1 at the end of the season
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Post by runner76 on Jul 19, 2024 16:19:09 GMT 1
Can we have a separate thread for the mass debating (Altho I think some are doing similar over NW 🤣😂) and let’s get this thread back to transfer issues! I'll start, anyone think we'll get this Hodge player in today? Looks interesting although I'd prefer to have bought a player so we're not at square 1 at the end of the season To be fair, if he helps us get promoted, it'll do me to search for more fresh players this time next year!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2024 17:11:59 GMT 1
Brum getting some great signings done.
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Post by terryya on Jul 19, 2024 17:15:52 GMT 1
I'll start, anyone think we'll get this Hodge player in today? Looks interesting although I'd prefer to have bought a player so we're not at square 1 at the end of the season To be fair, if he helps us get promoted, it'll do me to search for more fresh players this time next year! Yep. I think using loan markets will is an essential part of being successful. Mooy, Palmer, Brown, Colwill all played massive parts in recent successful seasons. It is better to have them for year and be back at square one than have an inferior player who you know is yours for the next three years.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 19, 2024 17:20:55 GMT 1
Brum getting some great signings done. Love the name.. We need to sign the English equivalent.. David Iron Man Davidson..
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Post by detox on Jul 19, 2024 17:21:13 GMT 1
League one is going to be a lot more physical than we've been used to. Lesser quality players who make up for that with sheer aggression and determination..are we ready to match that? Are we going to aim for quality rather than physical determined players, will that be enough for a promotion season. Duff will have no doubt been aware but last season's Town players were massively lacking in commitment, determination and aggression. I think thats a bit of a myth that the lower down you go the players are more physical. The game is slower perhaps as players dont think at the same speed or do what theyre going to do as quickly. Just wait and see...you know I'm seldom, if ever, wrong....
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Post by ceephax on Jul 19, 2024 17:25:59 GMT 1
Brum getting some great signings done. Expensive signings, not necessarily great. They've paid millions for a striker who scored 7 last season in the same league where Jozy Altidore scored 23.
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Post by kjf on Jul 19, 2024 17:37:01 GMT 1
Brum getting some great signings done. They can't sign any more from abroad now though
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Post by rockwall on Jul 19, 2024 18:24:52 GMT 1
Brum getting some great signings done. How do you know they're great?
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Post by DuncShearer* on Jul 19, 2024 18:28:53 GMT 1
Brum getting some great signings done. How do you know they're great? Exactly must be some avid go ahead eagles fans on here these lads from abroad may take time to settle or even be absolutely gash !
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Post by rockwall on Jul 19, 2024 18:30:08 GMT 1
How do you know they're great? Exactly must be some avid go ahead eagles fans on here these lads from abroad may take time to settle or even be absolutely gash ! It just seems anyone from abroad with a different name to what were used to is branded 'great'. Breitenreiter... Radulovic... 2 examples until they actually get found out.
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Post by mids on Jul 19, 2024 18:30:18 GMT 1
I think thats a bit of a myth that the lower down you go the players are more physical. The game is slower perhaps as players dont think at the same speed or do what theyre going to do as quickly. Just wait and see...you know I'm seldom, if ever, wrong.... Hahaha with a head that size you're gonna need a hat specifically made
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 19, 2024 18:30:58 GMT 1
Brum getting some great signings done. Expensive signings, not necessarily great. They've paid millions for a striker who scored 7 last season in the same league where Jozy Altidore scored 23. Which striker is that?
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Post by kayeb222 on Jul 19, 2024 18:40:20 GMT 1
Exactly must be some avid go ahead eagles fans on here these lads from abroad may take time to settle or even be absolutely gash ! It just seems anyone from abroad with a different name to what were used to is branded 'great'. Breitenreiter... Radulovic... 2 examples until they actually get found out. How about Diakhaby,Mbenza,Paurevic....you get the picture!! Lol
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Post by ezzie on Jul 19, 2024 20:10:30 GMT 1
Not sure disheartening is the correct word but, anyone else seeing Brums $Money$ signings hoping we pull out a few serious statements in terms of good transfer fees. Our biggest fee this season has been circa ~500k.
Expensive signings don’t mean success. But there’s a good f’in chance they’ll deliver
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 19, 2024 20:11:52 GMT 1
There's lots of ifs and buts The last few games would have probably panned out differently if it wasn't for that shocking decision at Ashton Gate This terrible team drew nearly half of all games played last season..half the division had more defeats...and still got 45 points which is sometimes enough for survival Ultimately..kevin m nagle and Mark Cartwright got us Relegated with their inept shit decision making Yep, although with the caveat that KN uses advisors for a reason. For me KN's record (so far) only has that blot; that he let his ego get in the way of keeping Neil til we were safe, or at least safeish. Big big blot though, I know, but his "advisors" should have told him to keep NW. Warnock should've either been kept longer or not persuaded to stay on for the start of the season. He's a proven manager at getting the most out of what he has. Probably one of the best ever. However, he's not a manager that is renowned for building a squad, etc. and that played out. Anyway, that's history.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 19, 2024 20:36:35 GMT 1
Not sure disheartening is the correct word but, anyone else seeing Brums $Money$ signings hoping we pull out a few serious statements in terms of good transfer fees. Our biggest fee this season has been circa ~500k. Expensive signings don’t mean success. But there’s a good f’in chance they’ll deliver Or we could let them just get on with spending stupid money on unproven players. Something like £3.5m they've spent on this latest addition - a player with a good goals record but poor creative record as an attacking midfielder. Barmy money in this division, especially when it means they don't have another overseas player available to them. He might hit the ground running. Or he might not. He's clearly a decent player who has come from a decent side, but it means diddly squat on his move. I seem to recall Southampton - with a better squad and more money behind them - struggled to get going on their relegation, albeit into a stronger division. The following season they finished second, behind a side built up from sensible transfers, with a manager who - despite his bonkers post-match interviews - really knew what he was doing. 1-11 Southampton looked a stronger side. But Brighton were a better team, despite the money Southampton had spent on international players. And I don't see this lad who Birmingham have signed as a Morgan Schneiderlin or (youth product, but my point will be obvious) Adam Lallana. Town need certain players in certain positions. We need a left-sided, left-footed central defender - preferably with pace. We need a striker - quite probably two, one a big man, a foil, and the other a poacher. We need someone with that little bit of spark, something different. And for me, we need a midfielder who can do the Jonathan Hogg role. But we certainly shouldn't be going and spending silly money for the sake of competing with a side like it's some kind of psychological marker. They spend a lot. So what? That puts pressure on them, not us. It shifts the radar away from us, which is good. It puts a target on their back, which is good. And if we can get all those players - of the requisite quality, of course - for £1m, then brilliant. If it costs us a bit more, then fine. If we get them for less, then fantastic.
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Post by royrace on Jul 19, 2024 20:57:45 GMT 1
Back to Neil bashing again 13 games left and 5 points ABOVE the drop zone! Only one man to blame Sheitenreiter We'd have been mid table minimum with Warnock and Ronnie. I'm certain of it. We'd likely have stayed up by hiring an experienced manager also. Less certain of that but highly likely. As you say five points above and lots of games left. Anyway I think we've finally got a proper manager in, well suited for the job at hand.
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Post by Wingman on Jul 19, 2024 20:59:34 GMT 1
Money does not equate to team spirit and success. An example? 2016-17, Wagner's first full season in charge. We didn't blow our brains out but that spirit, the will to fight, the attitude, was priceless.
Birmingham with their shiny new 'I'm ace' boss, spunking money all over on players and generating media froth that they'll walk the league, it will all mean nothing if and when they have a bad patch. I can see the natives being very restless if they don't win their first few games and sit top of the league at the end of September.
I'll take our methods and stance over that anyday. Bravado and waving cash like Harry Enfield's 'Loadsmoney' character means nothing. The Americans owning Birmingham will find out...I feel Kev and Jake are a little more savvy.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jul 20, 2024 4:54:13 GMT 1
QPR fan has done the work for us here. Sounds promising, probably not the right environment for him at QPR during a relegation battle but hopefully the potential shines through with us. That thumbnail... he has the Phil Foden-esque look of a kid who's been told he can't go out and play because his tea is nearly ready.
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Post by terrier66 on Jul 20, 2024 7:44:43 GMT 1
With Duff having a close friendship with Sean Dyche you’d think that there’s a chance of getting a loan of one of their top B team/ youth players in maybe a striker
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Post by rockwall on Jul 20, 2024 7:46:57 GMT 1
With Duff having a close friendship with Sean Dyche you’d think that there’s a chance of getting a loan of one of their top B team/ youth players in maybe a striker We thought that about Klopp with Wagner.
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Post by ldotm on Jul 20, 2024 8:12:49 GMT 1
With Duff having a close friendship with Sean Dyche you’d think that there’s a chance of getting a loan of one of their top B team/ youth players in maybe a striker We thought that about Klopp with Wagner. Tbf we got Danny Ward who was highly rated at the time
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2024 8:24:18 GMT 1
We thought that about Klopp with Wagner. Tbf we got Danny Ward who was highly rated at the time And he is Wales No. 1 keeper now and with Leicester.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 20, 2024 9:24:31 GMT 1
Hodge looks to be a tidy player, however, that's quite an injury record in a very young career.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2024 13:03:15 GMT 1
Could just be the usual twitter bollocks but with the Duff link, us needing a new striker and him being on a free, i can see it being true.
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