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Post by townarentbest on Jul 23, 2024 11:35:23 GMT 1
Its ok, we've got nice new shiny yellow stripes on the steps at the stadium. Does your mum not make your sandwich for school just because you pooed in your pants? It's a JOKE!! 🤷♂️😳😂 I'm not the one panicking about some things that haven't happened like Helik & Lees leaving!!
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 23, 2024 11:37:24 GMT 1
Its ok, we've got nice new shiny yellow stripes on the steps at the stadium. So you think the guy painting the steps should be concentrating on our transfer business instead? No, he should be concentrating on practicing scoring goals in case Healey gets injured.
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Post by irverino on Jul 23, 2024 11:37:52 GMT 1
We cannot allow this season to be a pissing competition with Birmingham City. On one hand I can see a narrative with Mr Nagle i.e. you don't want to be the 2nd/3rd (allowing for the other Hollywood Club) best US owner in League One, but we need to focus on getting Huddersfield Town moving forward. It's not how much you spend, it is about who you spend anything on. It is down to MD and recruitment. There's a long game here and I will judge Mr Nagle and his team on what they deliver over time and not use what happens at St Andrews as a benchmark. That said we do need to see some significant improvement this season. I live in Birmingham and work with a bunch of Bluenoses. Theyve been talking non stop about the money theyre spending. They know im a Town fan and asked if im worried. I told them you can buy all the supercars you like but if you dont know how to drive them theyre fucking useless in your garage. The Brum mail highlighted a group of games between the Sept/Oct international breaks where they play Wrexham, Peterboro & Town at home plus away trips to Rotherham & Charlton as a reminder to some fans that league one will be no cakewalk......Leicester City were the ones who would walk it back to PL last season but in the end were lucky to get over the line because they & others chocked.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 23, 2024 11:40:20 GMT 1
Does your mum not make your sandwich for school just because you pooed in your pants? It's a JOKE!! 🤷♂️😳😂 I'm not the one panicking about some things that haven't happened like Helik & Lees leaving!! 😂 so is mine. Only stirring.
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 23, 2024 11:49:04 GMT 1
Birmingham operate with a much more significant loss than Hudds Town of around £24m a year in '22 and 23'. Their ability and desire to spend is nothing to do with your seeming wish to see Town fans pay more money!No, but ours is. Fans cant moan about being asked to pay a little more than half the going rate, then when they get to keep that extremely low price moan the club isnt spending enough on players for their liking. The going rate for a Hudds Town season ticket in the Championship over the last 10 years has been about £250...not sure where you're getting yours from at £125? Aside from that - the point I was making was thaht Birmingham have spent more despite operating with greater losses than Town...so obviously if the hierarchy here had the ability and desire to spend more then they could, and still turn out with lower operating losses than Birmingham, without increasing our season ticket prices. Whether they have the ability and desire is the only question, and maybe they're doing the right thing by not loading the club with debt to the level that Birmingham have, we've seen what happens if you try and sustain that longer term and fail to take proper advantage of any opportunities that come along - but to continually suggest the answer is simply "put the price up" is frankly ludicrous when there's massively underperforming other parts of the business (of Hudds Town) to address which will not only result in increased revenues, but could hopefully end up with building the demand that then creates the opportunity to actually increase prices. The club can't afford to increase prices with where we're at, thankfully the guy at the top recognised that, otherwise we'd be embarking on a League 1 campaign with the same revenues and massively reduced crowds.
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Post by twyford on Jul 23, 2024 11:52:54 GMT 1
Pride before a fall. Hopefully a big one. It’s like watching your mate eat a big bag of Walkers crisps and boasting about it, but then you have a six pack of Seabrook and keep schtum. There’ll always be gobshites in football and Birmingham seem to have had theirs procreate. Somehow. We play Birmingham twice, its 6 points. Im more interested in how many other teams are or become genuine contenders for the top spots. We are contending with 21 other teams alongside Birmingham. They may well spend big and get it right, still leaves 2 other spots. Im far more interested in a new centre back and striker at Town than anyone Birmingham recruit. 🤔 22 others - can't forget about the division's 24th team in case they sneak in and take the other automatic promotion spot (Birmingham having apparently already bought the first one).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2024 12:14:31 GMT 1
Pacey striker=Devante Cole me thinks
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 23, 2024 12:16:25 GMT 1
Pacey striker=Devante Cole me thinks don't think so as Cole isn't exactly renwoed for being that "speedy" .
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Post by crux on Jul 23, 2024 12:25:51 GMT 1
No, but ours is. Fans cant moan about being asked to pay a little more than half the going rate, then when they get to keep that extremely low price moan the club isnt spending enough on players for their liking. The going rate for a Hudds Town season ticket in the Championship over the last 10 years has been about £250...not sure where you're getting yours from at £125? Aside from that - the point I was making was thaht Birmingham have spent more despite operating with greater losses than Town...so obviously if the hierarchy here had the ability and desire to spend more then they could, and still turn out with lower operating losses than Birmingham, without increasing our season ticket prices. Whether they have the ability and desire is the only question, and maybe they're doing the right thing by not loading the club with debt to the level that Birmingham have, we've seen what happens if you try and sustain that longer term and fail to take proper advantage of any opportunities that come along - but to continually suggest the answer is simply "put the price up" is frankly ludicrous when there's massively underperforming other parts of the business (of Hudds Town) to address which will not only result in increased revenues, but could hopefully end up with building the demand that then creates the opportunity to actually increase prices. The club can't afford to increase prices with where we're at, thankfully the guy at the top recognised that, otherwise we'd be embarking on a League 1 campaign with the same revenues and massively reduced crowds. One of the reasons BCFC can spend big is their massive sponsorship deal for the stadium and training ground. It does sound dodgy to me, but is apparently above board. It could be worth almost £10M per year. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-knighthead-park-stadium-28516851.amp
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Post by dezzly on Jul 23, 2024 12:26:05 GMT 1
Pacey striker=Devante Cole me thinks Be surprised if him,would have had that done already surely with been out of contract
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Post by thomo on Jul 23, 2024 12:26:18 GMT 1
Pacey striker=Devante Cole me thinks don't think so as Cole isn't exactly renwoed for being that "speedy" . God I hope not. Cole is sh11te
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Post by utttrooper on Jul 23, 2024 12:26:31 GMT 1
Nixon reckons we have a striker with a bit of pace coming Ali Al-Hamadi on loan? Only saying that because he was described as having pace when we were linked with him in January and he won't be playing much this season.
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Post by Kenny irons on Jul 23, 2024 12:28:02 GMT 1
Nixon reckons we have a striker with a bit of pace coming Ali Al-Hamadi on loan? Only saying that because he was described as having pace when we were linked with him in January and he won't be playing much this season. What a signing he would be
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Post by itkterrier on Jul 23, 2024 12:28:06 GMT 1
Nixon reckons we have a striker with a bit of pace coming Ali Al-Hamadi on loan? Only saying that because he was described as having pace when we were linked with him in January and he won't be playing much this season. That would be a very good signing but imagine he’d be looking for a championship move
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 23, 2024 12:29:21 GMT 1
Nixon reckons we have a striker with a bit of pace coming Ali Al-Hamadi on loan? Only saying that because he was described as having pace when we were linked with him in January and he won't be playing much this season. Would be class if it was someone like him, the chap mentioned above from wolves . Cole would be a 4th choice cf - Duff likes playing 2 up top, therefore 4 is a need. Cole and then a starter cf would be a good idea.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jul 23, 2024 12:29:23 GMT 1
Birmingham can spend what they want but the all important and number 1 factor will be the 'Manager'. I believe we have a very good manager in Duff, do they have as good or a better one ? If they don't then we will be on an even playing field.
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Post by utttrooper on Jul 23, 2024 12:39:06 GMT 1
Birmingham can spend what they want but the all important and number 1 factor will be the 'Manager'. I believe we have a very good manager in Duff, do they have as good or a better one ? If they don't then we will be on an even playing field. Their manager came from Spurs so he'll not be winning any trophies
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Post by utttrooper on Jul 23, 2024 12:39:57 GMT 1
Joe Hodge has apparently been left out of Wolves' pre season squad
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Post by blueandwhiteterrier on Jul 23, 2024 12:40:55 GMT 1
Saw a comment on the transfer sub board that Spencer and Helik are leaving. I hope not, but is there any truth to that rumour I wonder?
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Post by rockwall on Jul 23, 2024 12:41:22 GMT 1
Birmingham can spend what they want but the all important and number 1 factor will be the 'Manager'. I believe we have a very good manager in Duff, do they have as good or a better one ? If they don't then we will be on an even playing field. Their manager came from Spurs so he'll not be winning any trophies Who is to say all the players from abroad settle here and can play in this league. They could turn out to be like Radulovic, Paurevic, Bockhorn etc. Who is to say Alfoe May will score shedloads of goals for a different team? Let them walk around playing Billy Big bollocks, just makes it easier to laugh if it fails for them.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 23, 2024 12:42:35 GMT 1
Saw a comment on the transfer sub board that Spencer and Helik are leaving. I hope not, but is there any truth to that rumour I wonder? can't be soon, as there on the tour and playing minutes .
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Post by dezzly on Jul 23, 2024 12:43:20 GMT 1
Joe Hodge has apparently been left out of Wolves' pre season squad If he’s available for loan even if he doesn’t come to us you’d imagine he’ll go elsewhere.
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Post by wilmohtafc on Jul 23, 2024 12:50:22 GMT 1
Pacey striker=Devante Cole me thinks Be surprised if him,would have had that done already surely with been out of contract Saw something saying we had tabled an offer for him but he's still chosing. The nixon article made it sound like clubs hadn't reached an agreement which would indicate its not Cole as hes a free agent. Rumours are that bolton have had a bid from an unnamed club for a defender, wonder if thats us to avoid the all seeing eye of brum.
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Post by mosher on Jul 23, 2024 13:32:43 GMT 1
The mere suggestion of SC prices going up a quid a week (and still being the cheapest in the division).........moan and whinge. Club isnt spending as much as a rival that generates way more income than us.......moan and whinge. Didnt see that one coming! After selling Rudoni we've generated far more money than any other league 1 club, cheap season tickets or not. And I'd rather we spend it wisely, with proper due diligence than throw it all over the place like Brum appear to be doing. Do I think we need more and better players? Hell yes Am I worried this squad isn't quite good enough yet? Hell yes, I even said if Hogg is still our mainstay this season then something's gone horribly wrong. But some seem to be eternally worried and would STILL be moaning if we'd brought 10 new players in; they're not good enough, they're too old, they're too slow, free transfers (ahem Mbappe) are crap. I'm hopeful Duff knows what he's doing and is in the loop on WHO we're signing, rather than just going out and buying whoever's available. It wouldn't surprise me if a load of Brum's purchases aren't even wanted by their manager.
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Post by ezzie on Jul 23, 2024 13:40:25 GMT 1
We should be aiming for the autos, Birmingham will have that aim aswell, both a shitshow club last season and deservedly relegated, both looking to bounce back immediately under 'new' US owners, both talk about big ambitions. Why shouldn't fans discuss a direct rival? 🤔 We shouldn’t do that!! Otherwise we’d be labelled as obsessed 😛
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Post by runner76 on Jul 23, 2024 13:53:36 GMT 1
Saw a comment on the transfer sub board that Spencer and Helik are leaving. I hope not, but is there any truth to that rumour I wonder? Highly plausible as they are both good enough for the Championship
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 23, 2024 13:59:12 GMT 1
After selling Rudoni we've generated far more money than any other league 1 club, cheap season tickets or not. And I'd rather we spend it wisely, with proper due diligence than throw it all over the place like Brum appear to be doing. Do I think we need more and better players? Hell yes Am I worried this squad isn't quite good enough yet? Hell yes, I even said if Hogg is still our mainstay this season then something's gone horribly wrong. But some seem to be eternally worried and would STILL be moaning if we'd brought 10 new players in; they're not good enough, they're too old, they're too slow, free transfers (ahem Mbappe) are crap. I'm hopeful Duff knows what he's doing and is in the loop on WHO we're signing, rather than just going out and buying whoever's available. It wouldn't surprise me if a load of Brum's purchases aren't even wanted by their manager. As long as we don't get caught with our pants down like last summer. Nagle has stressed how important pre-season is going to be to have the squad better prepared, the season is only 18 days away and we're yet to address any of the glaring issues from last season. Who'll play up front with Healey? Who's going to anchor the midfield? Who's going to improve our slow, ponderous defence that's been shipping goals for fun over the last two seasons? I can see 4/5 of the current squad leaving which will leave an already threadbare squad down to the bare bones. We're still miles away from having a decent squad to challenge at the top of league 1, I can see players like Helik, Thomas, Nicholls and Spencer moving on, which will need to be replaced aswell. A hell of a lot of work still to do.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 23, 2024 14:07:36 GMT 1
No, but ours is. Fans cant moan about being asked to pay a little more than half the going rate, then when they get to keep that extremely low price moan the club isnt spending enough on players for their liking. The going rate for a Hudds Town season ticket in the Championship over the last 10 years has been about £250...not sure where you're getting yours from at £125? Aside from that - the point I was making was thaht Birmingham have spent more despite operating with greater losses than Town...so obviously if the hierarchy here had the ability and desire to spend more then they could, and still turn out with lower operating losses than Birmingham, without increasing our season ticket prices. Whether they have the ability and desire is the only question, and maybe they're doing the right thing by not loading the club with debt to the level that Birmingham have, we've seen what happens if you try and sustain that longer term and fail to take proper advantage of any opportunities that come along - but to continually suggest the answer is simply "put the price up" is frankly ludicrous when there's massively underperforming other parts of the business (of Hudds Town) to address which will not only result in increased revenues, but could hopefully end up with building the demand that then creates the opportunity to actually increase prices. The club can't afford to increase prices with where we're at, thankfully the guy at the top recognised that, otherwise we'd be embarking on a League 1 campaign with the same revenues and massively reduced crowds. So we'd have massively reduced crowds if the price went up £50? Even if its still very cheap for the division ( or any division ) ..half the going rate really ,,which im guessing you know is what it means even if youre pretending you dont. I dont think we would. A few might be put off but not many. I dont think Town fans are this special breed of people who will only watch their team if it's really really cheap. Our income from fans will be pretty average for league 1 despite getting more fans than all but 1 or 2 clubs, so theres no reason we should expect anything but our spending to be pretty average. So I dont get why fans are comparing our spending to Birmingham whos income will be a hell of lot more and it appears have very generous owners too. Certainly not if theyre one of the fans who were melodramatically coughing up a lung at the prospect of having to pay the price of half a lager more per game, like they were in some comedy sketch about tight Yorkshiremen! We'd be better off comparing our spending to clubs like Lincoln or Bristol Rovers who get 2/3rds of our crowds but where most fans pay a more normal price of £400+. A £50 increase would have paid for a good signing at this level.
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Post by four4two on Jul 23, 2024 14:37:52 GMT 1
It is a scary thought if Nicholls and Helik go, given we already need a CB, CDM, and ST to complete our first team that would be 5 signings required before the end of the window. That's half a bloody team! Its ok, we've got nice new shiny yellow stripes on the steps at the stadium. Two separate budgets i suspect.
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 23, 2024 14:41:33 GMT 1
The going rate for a Hudds Town season ticket in the Championship over the last 10 years has been about £250...not sure where you're getting yours from at £125? Aside from that - the point I was making was thaht Birmingham have spent more despite operating with greater losses than Town...so obviously if the hierarchy here had the ability and desire to spend more then they could, and still turn out with lower operating losses than Birmingham, without increasing our season ticket prices. Whether they have the ability and desire is the only question, and maybe they're doing the right thing by not loading the club with debt to the level that Birmingham have, we've seen what happens if you try and sustain that longer term and fail to take proper advantage of any opportunities that come along - but to continually suggest the answer is simply "put the price up" is frankly ludicrous when there's massively underperforming other parts of the business (of Hudds Town) to address which will not only result in increased revenues, but could hopefully end up with building the demand that then creates the opportunity to actually increase prices. The club can't afford to increase prices with where we're at, thankfully the guy at the top recognised that, otherwise we'd be embarking on a League 1 campaign with the same revenues and massively reduced crowds. One of the reasons BCFC can spend big is their massive sponsorship deal for the stadium and training ground. It does sound dodgy to me, but is apparently above board. It could be worth almost £10M per year. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-knighthead-park-stadium-28516851.amp100% 👍; to reiterate..." if the hierarchy here had the ability and desire to spend more then they could"
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