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Post by Down at the Makka on Jul 23, 2024 14:42:28 GMT 1
Nixon reckons we have a striker with a bit of pace coming Ali Al-Hamadi on loan? Only saying that because he was described as having pace when we were linked with him in January and he won't be playing much this season. Can't see us being in for a player like that and would probably be a Champ loan for him but it would certainly be a quality addition!
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Post by royrace on Jul 23, 2024 14:44:00 GMT 1
Saw a comment on the transfer sub board that Spencer and Helik are leaving. I hope not, but is there any truth to that rumour I wonder? Highly plausible as they are both good enough for the Championship We're apparently trying to build a team capable at that level so I'm very much hoping we're trying to keep hold of our better players unless they're desperate to leave or we've had a massive offer. IF we do get promoted they'll need to be replaced, surely it makes more sense to keep to help this season and have less players to replace if we are promoted. Depends how serious we are about promotion and how much Cartwright's judgement can be trusted. Jury still out on both points at this stage.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 23, 2024 14:57:50 GMT 1
The going rate for a Hudds Town season ticket in the Championship over the last 10 years has been about £250...not sure where you're getting yours from at £125? Aside from that - the point I was making was thaht Birmingham have spent more despite operating with greater losses than Town...so obviously if the hierarchy here had the ability and desire to spend more then they could, and still turn out with lower operating losses than Birmingham, without increasing our season ticket prices. Whether they have the ability and desire is the only question, and maybe they're doing the right thing by not loading the club with debt to the level that Birmingham have, we've seen what happens if you try and sustain that longer term and fail to take proper advantage of any opportunities that come along - but to continually suggest the answer is simply "put the price up" is frankly ludicrous when there's massively underperforming other parts of the business (of Hudds Town) to address which will not only result in increased revenues, but could hopefully end up with building the demand that then creates the opportunity to actually increase prices. The club can't afford to increase prices with where we're at, thankfully the guy at the top recognised that, otherwise we'd be embarking on a League 1 campaign with the same revenues and massively reduced crowds. So we'd have massively reduced crowds if the price went up £50? Even if its still very cheap for the division ( or any division ) ..half the going rate really ,,which im guessing you know is what it means even if youre pretending you dont. I dont think we would. A few might be put off but not many. I dont think Town fans are this special breed of people who will only watch their team if it's really really cheap. Our income from fans will be pretty average for league 1 despite getting more fans than all but 1 or 2 clubs, so theres no reason we should expect anything but our spending to be pretty average. So I dont get why fans are comparing our spending to Birmingham whos income will be a hell of lot more and it appears have very generous owners too. Certainly not if theyre one of the fans who were melodramatically coughing up a lung at the prospect of having to pay the price of half a lager more per game, like they were in some comedy sketch about tight Yorkshiremen! We'd be better off comparing our spending to clubs like Lincoln or Bristol Rovers who get 2/3rds of our crowds but where most fans pay a more normal price of £400+. A £50 increase would have paid for a good signing at this level. Both get significantly less than half our our crowds, and operate on a little more than a third of our income.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 23, 2024 14:58:07 GMT 1
don't think so as Cole isn't exactly renwoed for being that "speedy" . God I hope not. Cole is sh11te 15 and 18 goals in his last two seasons in League One. All our strikers together probably couldn't get that many.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 23, 2024 15:00:24 GMT 1
God I hope not. Cole is sh11te 15 and 18 goals in his last two seasons in League One. All our strikers together probably couldn't get that many. don't be coming on here with a pragmatic attitude to our League 1 status and start presenting facts... this is DATM ffs...
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 23, 2024 15:11:06 GMT 1
15 and 18 goals in his last two seasons in League One. All our strikers together probably couldn't get that many. don't be coming on here with a pragmatic attitude to our League 1 status and start presenting facts... this is DATM ffs... Depends what we are signing him for though he’s decent enough in league 1 but if you’re wanting a player who can move up to the championship with he’s not your man,29 now so will be looking a decent last contract.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 23, 2024 15:13:37 GMT 1
God I hope not. Cole is sh11te 15 and 18 goals in his last two seasons in League One. All our strikers together probably couldn't get that many. To quote Stewart Lee quoting a taxi driver he was arguing with: “huh, you can prove anything with facts.”
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 23, 2024 15:20:04 GMT 1
don't be coming on here with a pragmatic attitude to our League 1 status and start presenting facts... this is DATM ffs... Depends what we are signing him for though he’s decent enough in league 1 but if you’re wanting a player who can move up to the championship with he’s not your man,29 now so will be looking a decent last contract. Horses for courses. He wouldn't be my first choice, but we need strikers who score goals in League One before even thinking about stepping up. Cole does that.
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Post by Sparrow on Jul 23, 2024 15:23:09 GMT 1
The going rate for a Hudds Town season ticket in the Championship over the last 10 years has been about £250...not sure where you're getting yours from at £125? Aside from that - the point I was making was thaht Birmingham have spent more despite operating with greater losses than Town...so obviously if the hierarchy here had the ability and desire to spend more then they could, and still turn out with lower operating losses than Birmingham, without increasing our season ticket prices. Whether they have the ability and desire is the only question, and maybe they're doing the right thing by not loading the club with debt to the level that Birmingham have, we've seen what happens if you try and sustain that longer term and fail to take proper advantage of any opportunities that come along - but to continually suggest the answer is simply "put the price up" is frankly ludicrous when there's massively underperforming other parts of the business (of Hudds Town) to address which will not only result in increased revenues, but could hopefully end up with building the demand that then creates the opportunity to actually increase prices. The club can't afford to increase prices with where we're at, thankfully the guy at the top recognised that, otherwise we'd be embarking on a League 1 campaign with the same revenues and massively reduced crowds. So we'd have massively reduced crowds if the price went up £50? Even if its still very cheap for the division ( or any division ) ..half the going rate really ,,which im guessing you know is what it means even if youre pretending you dont. I dont think we would. A few might be put off but not many. I dont think Town fans are this special breed of people who will only watch their team if it's really really cheap. Our income from fans will be pretty average for league 1 despite getting more fans than all but 1 or 2 clubs, so theres no reason we should expect anything but our spending to be pretty average. So I dont get why fans are comparing our spending to Birmingham whos income will be a hell of lot more and it appears have very generous owners too. Certainly not if theyre one of the fans who were melodramatically coughing up a lung at the prospect of having to pay the price of half a lager more per game, like they were in some comedy sketch about tight Yorkshiremen! We'd be better off comparing our spending to clubs like Lincoln or Bristol Rovers who get 2/3rds of our crowds but where most fans pay a more normal price of £400+. A £50 increase would have paid for a good signing at this level. If you include the Transfer fee, Signing on fee, Agents fee and wages/bonuses, then an increase of £50 on season tickets would come no where near a good league 1 signing. Contribute to one yes, but pay for one, not a chance. I've not seen anyone complaining about a lack of spending from the club. People have praised the club for the players they've brought in, but expressed a concern that we still look a few short. The majority are aware that a few probably need to be sold/loaned before we buy anymore, if only to get the wage budget right and the fact that you can only have 22 players named in your squad (excluding goalies and anyone under the age of 21 as at 1st January 2024). We currently have 24 senior players in the squad - That does include the likes of High, Austerfield, Simpson and Hudlin. I don't really see many, if any, complaining about a lack of spending. Yes some a quoting what Brum are spending, but are not then saying we should be spending more.....Just voicing a concern that we look a few short. Which is too very different things. MC talked about a squad over-hall and getting it right for pre-season. People are simply discussing if that's been achieved or not. Not slagging the club off for not spending money. Stop banging on about the cost of season tickets. We are all grateful that they've been kept low for another season and we all appreciate they will need to increase over the next few seasons. We get it!! Move on man
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Jul 23, 2024 15:27:48 GMT 1
Its ok, we've got nice new shiny yellow stripes on the steps at the stadium. Two separate budgets i suspect. No, the transfer budget has been blown on yellow paint and a new brush. Apparently the brush handle keeps dropping off and needs replacing already too. We should have done better research as plenty of reviews available online suggested that this might happen. Don't get me wrong, when it's fully functioning it is a quality brush with smooth lines but we can't start the season with the same low quality brush again. I'm worried that those yellow lines won't last the season and it starts in a few weeks!!!!!
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Post by royrace on Jul 23, 2024 15:36:59 GMT 1
So we'd have massively reduced crowds if the price went up £50? Even if its still very cheap for the division ( or any division ) ..half the going rate really ,,which im guessing you know is what it means even if youre pretending you dont. I dont think we would. A few might be put off but not many. I dont think Town fans are this special breed of people who will only watch their team if it's really really cheap. Our income from fans will be pretty average for league 1 despite getting more fans than all but 1 or 2 clubs, so theres no reason we should expect anything but our spending to be pretty average. So I dont get why fans are comparing our spending to Birmingham whos income will be a hell of lot more and it appears have very generous owners too. Certainly not if theyre one of the fans who were melodramatically coughing up a lung at the prospect of having to pay the price of half a lager more per game, like they were in some comedy sketch about tight Yorkshiremen! We'd be better off comparing our spending to clubs like Lincoln or Bristol Rovers who get 2/3rds of our crowds but where most fans pay a more normal price of £400+. A £50 increase would have paid for a good signing at this level. If you include the Transfer fee, Signing on fee, Agents fee and wages/bonuses, then an increase of £50 on season tickets would come no where near a good league 1 signing. Contribute to one yes, but pay for one, not a chance. I've not seen anyone complaining about a lack of spending from the club. People have praised the club for the players they've brought in, but expressed a concern that we still look a few short. The majority are aware that a few probably need to be sold/loaned before we buy anymore, if only to get the wage budget right and the fact that you can only have 22 players named in your squad (excluding goalies and anyone under the age of 21 as at 1st January 2024). We currently have 24 senior players in the squad - That does include the likes of High, Austerfield, Simpson and Hudlin. I don't really see many, if any, complaining about a lack of spending. Yes some a quoting what Brum are spending, but are not then saying we should be spending more.....Just voicing a concern that we look a few short. Which is too very different things. MC talked about a squad over-hall and getting it right for pre-season. People are simply discussing if that's been achieved or not. Not slagging the club off for not spending money. Stop banging on about the cost of season tickets. We are all grateful that they've been kept low for another season and we all appreciate they will need to increase over the next few seasons. We get it!! Move on man I don't care how much tickets cost. The club will lose a fortune, we know this, all clubs do. KN decided to buy it anyway and it's his responsibility to finance it appropriately. Revenue will increase hopefully but it will never make money, might just lose a little less. If we did get to the PL it would get even more expensive. I've no idea what the end game is for KN but I don't think more expensive season tickets will make much difference. Villa have spent £175M so far this closed season. You've got to shift some season cards to cover that expenditure!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 23, 2024 15:38:47 GMT 1
We're not the only club offering good season ticket prices.
Bolton, who will be challenging with a competitive squad season ticket prices for renewals are £249-£319.
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Post by townarentbest on Jul 23, 2024 15:39:28 GMT 1
Two separate budgets i suspect. No, the transfer budget has been blown on yellow paint and a new brush. Apparently the brush handle keeps dropping off and needs replacing already too. We should have done better research as plenty of reviews available online suggested that this might happen. Don't get me wrong, when it's fully functioning it is a quality brush with smooth lines but we can't start the season with the same low quality brush again. I'm worried that those yellow lines won't last the season and it starts in a few weeks!!!!! Could have got Banksy in on loan and he'd have painted the whole lot overnight.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2024 15:43:22 GMT 1
No news them ☹️
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Jul 23, 2024 16:08:58 GMT 1
Right….its clue time from Maynard or Desertstorm.
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Post by Macduff on Jul 23, 2024 16:12:46 GMT 1
Only news is that crabs don't like veggie bacon, just found out today when crabbing in Littlehampton with 2 of the grandkids.
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Post by benhomly on Jul 23, 2024 16:22:52 GMT 1
So we'd have massively reduced crowds if the price went up £50? Even if its still very cheap for the division ( or any division ) ..half the going rate really ,,which im guessing you know is what it means even if youre pretending you dont. I dont think we would. A few might be put off but not many. I dont think Town fans are this special breed of people who will only watch their team if it's really really cheap. Our income from fans will be pretty average for league 1 despite getting more fans than all but 1 or 2 clubs, so theres no reason we should expect anything but our spending to be pretty average. So I dont get why fans are comparing our spending to Birmingham whos income will be a hell of lot more and it appears have very generous owners too. Certainly not if theyre one of the fans who were melodramatically coughing up a lung at the prospect of having to pay the price of half a lager more per game, like they were in some comedy sketch about tight Yorkshiremen! We'd be better off comparing our spending to clubs like Lincoln or Bristol Rovers who get 2/3rds of our crowds but where most fans pay a more normal price of £400+. A £50 increase would have paid for a good signing at this level. If you include the Transfer fee, Signing on fee, Agents fee and wages/bonuses, then an increase of £50 on season tickets would come no where near a good league 1 signing. Contribute to one yes, but pay for one, not a chance. I've not seen anyone complaining about a lack of spending from the club. People have praised the club for the players they've brought in, but expressed a concern that we still look a few short. The majority are aware that a few probably need to be sold/loaned before we buy anymore, if only to get the wage budget right and the fact that you can only have 22 players named in your squad (excluding goalies and anyone under the age of 21 as at 1st January 2024). We currently have 24 senior players in the squad - That does include the likes of High, Austerfield, Simpson and Hudlin. I don't really see many, if any, complaining about a lack of spending. Yes some a quoting what Brum are spending, but are not then saying we should be spending more.....Just voicing a concern that we look a few short. Which is too very different things. MC talked about a squad over-hall and getting it right for pre-season. People are simply discussing if that's been achieved or not. Not slagging the club off for not spending money. Stop banging on about the cost of season tickets. We are all grateful that they've been kept low for another season and we all appreciate they will need to increase over the next few seasons. We get it!! Move on man There are 3 certainties in life; death, taxes and Slapps banging on about season ticket prices. You're wasting your breath.
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Post by desertstorm on Jul 23, 2024 16:25:26 GMT 1
Good Afternoon 😎 x2 one far more advanced than has been reported.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 23, 2024 16:38:59 GMT 1
Ali Al-Hamadi on loan? Only saying that because he was described as having pace when we were linked with him in January and he won't be playing much this season. Can't see us being in for a player like that and would probably be a Champ loan for him but it would certainly be a quality addition! This is the type of loan I’d love with an option to buy if we go up.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 23, 2024 16:44:08 GMT 1
Good Afternoon 😎 x2 one far more advanced than has been reported. Going by the emoji one of them must be Edgar Davids
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 23, 2024 16:55:50 GMT 1
Good Afternoon 😎 x2 one far more advanced than has been reported. Going by the emoji one of them must be Edgar Davids Or Stevie Wonder, he'd fit well into our defence
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Post by ambryboy on Jul 23, 2024 16:56:37 GMT 1
Good Afternoon 😎 x2 one far more advanced than has been reported. Playing on Thursday?
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 23, 2024 16:57:41 GMT 1
Only news is that crabs don't like veggie bacon, just found out today when crabbing in Littlehampton with 2 of the grandkids. Crabs have just gone up, massively, in my estimation.
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 23, 2024 17:02:53 GMT 1
“That nagging fear”.
Still plenty of time left yet. However can we trust Cartwright ? Only time will tell.
Clear as day that any of sorba,Helik,Spencer & Nichols leaving will need to be replaced. All 4 decent players especially Helik. But we know all this.
“That nagging fear “ is the Edward’s,Bojans of this world. Can he replace the players above.
We still need a striker. Warnock screwed us by resigning Ward.
Tick tock …..
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 23, 2024 17:03:40 GMT 1
Good Afternoon 😎 x2 one far more advanced than has been reported. Can see one being Devante Cole
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Post by theterrier42 on Jul 23, 2024 17:08:07 GMT 1
Good Afternoon 😎 x2 one far more advanced than has been reported. Any announcement expected today?
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Post by mosher on Jul 23, 2024 17:15:09 GMT 1
“That nagging fear”. Still plenty of time left yet. However can we trust Cartwright ? Only time will tell. Clear as day that any of sorba,Helik,Spencer & Nichols leaving will need to be replaced. All 4 decent players especially Helik. But we know all this. “That nagging fear “ is the Edward’s,Bojans of this world. Can he replace the players above. We still need a striker. Warnock screwed us by resigning Ward. Tick tock ….. Careful you’ll be accused of Warnock bashing with that penultimate line 😂
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Post by boooothy on Jul 23, 2024 17:15:24 GMT 1
Probably a stupid question but what’s the bobbie with Diarra? With him being under 24 do we get some dosh? In order to do that do we not need to offer him a contract that he could in theory still accept?
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 23, 2024 17:15:32 GMT 1
So we'd have massively reduced crowds if the price went up £50? Even if its still very cheap for the division ( or any division ) ..half the going rate really ,,which im guessing you know is what it means even if youre pretending you dont. I dont think we would. A few might be put off but not many. I dont think Town fans are this special breed of people who will only watch their team if it's really really cheap. Our income from fans will be pretty average for league 1 despite getting more fans than all but 1 or 2 clubs, so theres no reason we should expect anything but our spending to be pretty average. So I dont get why fans are comparing our spending to Birmingham whos income will be a hell of lot more and it appears have very generous owners too. Certainly not if theyre one of the fans who were melodramatically coughing up a lung at the prospect of having to pay the price of half a lager more per game, like they were in some comedy sketch about tight Yorkshiremen! We'd be better off comparing our spending to clubs like Lincoln or Bristol Rovers who get 2/3rds of our crowds but where most fans pay a more normal price of £400+. A £50 increase would have paid for a good signing at this level. Both get significantly less than half our our crowds, and operate on a little more than a third of our income. They both averaged over 8000 last season, so about half what I'd expect we'll get in League 1. Id be surprised if the 3 clubs gate revenue isnt in a similar ball park to each other. I dont know what income they operate with, but dont forget our income has just dropped by about £7m just from the drop in TV money.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 23, 2024 17:17:31 GMT 1
Probably a stupid question but what’s the bobbie with Diarra? With him being under 24 do we get some dosh? In order to do that do we not need to offer him a contract that he could in theory still accept? Think we did offer him one. I believe wherever he ends up they have to pay us compensation?
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